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Offline lsrjunkie

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Event gas at Bonneville
« on: September 24, 2013, 05:15:03 PM »
Does anybody know what octane the event gas is at Bonneville? I'm diving into my engine build and figured knowing the octane of the gas that is available from ERC would sure make figuring a compression ratio a lot easier.
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 05:32:21 PM »
-here's a link to a list of all their fuels.

http://www.ercracingfuels.com/sxs1.htm

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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
Mul B, 110, and one of the 118 oct are gas class legal. Call Rick Gold at ERC.
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 10:51:19 PM »
If you need something else next year Rick will accommodate.

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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 11:05:26 PM »
It looks like there is a new gas, MUL-C.

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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 11:09:51 PM »
Mul B, 110, and one of the 118 oct are gas class legal. Call Rick Gold at ERC.

It's the A-19A  - .699 specific gravity.  I called ahead before I dynoed to get it close with what's available in Wisconsin.  Specs similar to VP C-14.
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 11:16:02 PM »
Which you cannot use if you plan to visit Impound. Dyno your rods out.

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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 12:43:12 AM »
Which you cannot use if you plan to visit Impound. Dyno your rods out.

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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 08:57:16 AM »
Presuming things have not changed, DW told me in the past that any gasoline ERC had on the truck was Gas class legal.
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2013, 09:35:49 AM »
So what I'm gathering is there is more than one octane available at any given event?
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 09:44:15 AM »
Check their website, I think Rick brings everything you see so you can match your requirements for your engine.  If they don't have what you need to run in gas class your engine program is too exotic.   :-D
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 12:27:34 PM »
Thanks Stainless! That's what I needed to know. I didn't know if they only supplied one certain octane. I'd hate to have 14:1 CR and only have 100 octane available!

And to jack my own thread, Glad your doing good Stainless!!
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 06:43:45 PM »
Test on whatever you want.  Show up and tell Rick what you've been using.  And tell him what you're running. CR and so-on.
He'll give you what you need.  No need to worry about that.  Lots of other things to worry about.  He'll know what's best for you.
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 09:04:27 PM »
Test on whatever you want.  Show up and tell Rick what you've been using.  And tell him what you're running. CR and so-on.
He'll give you what you need.  No need to worry about that.  Lots of other things to worry about.  He'll know what's best for you.

Stan - my friend - please, please, don't ever say that to me, please.  I've been bitten in the arse so many times by those who knew what's best for me.

My first cam was best for me - that's why we went to Elgin and had him build one to our specs.

The Crane springs were best for me - now they're on their way to a street driven Mini build as we speak.

My rockers were a "bolt on" application . . . after relieving the inside radius next to the pedestals.

The successful components, like the crank, the rods, the pistons, the stupid little valve spring cups which I had machined and hardened - the ones that fit right and don't fail - are the ones I've researched and specified, or have received input about from by those not directly concerned with selling me something they had.

Maybe I'm becoming a control freak, but I'd rather find out what he's got and tune accordingly than tune and try to have something available that might work.

The point I didn't completely make was that there are comparative products out there for testing purposes.  And granted, the choices are limited on the salt, but the closest ERC guy for me is in Minneapolis - I can get VP just south of town.  By checking the sheets, you can come very close to ERC's formulations with VP or - whoever - to tune your engine before you get to the salt.

I've no doubt Rick knows his stuff, and I know he really cares about getting it right.  But when I filled up, I told him I tuned with a fuel with a specific gravity of .696 in order to match his ERC .699.  I think he appreciated that I had done some home work. 

I will tune to the fuel - I won't fuel to the tune.  Stan, you are right - there ARE lots of other things to worry about.

Okay, I'm climbing down off of my peach crate.

Man, am I cranky today . . .  :wink:
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Re: Event gas at Bonneville
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 09:18:41 PM »
"Okay, I'm climbing down off of my peach crate.

Man, am I cranky today . . .  wink"

Time for a beer or two, Chris..... :-D

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