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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1590 on: April 22, 2015, 10:09:11 PM »
All of them  :wink:  :cheers:
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1591 on: April 23, 2015, 01:24:15 AM »
Good answer Stainless. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1592 on: April 23, 2015, 04:00:05 AM »
yes, it was.
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1593 on: April 23, 2015, 11:45:39 AM »
By now you've realized I'm A Cleveland lover and big fan of Jack Roush.

My bible of sorts is the Pat Ganahl book  "Ford Performance".

There are a bunch of mods guys did on the oiling or the restricting of it for pro stock racing.

Jack says he used the Moroso kit to good effect and didn't need more but other guys went further.

Drilling and tapping into the oil galleys to restrict flow to the lifters etc.

What opinions do you Ford guys have on these applications for LSR?.

Thanks in advance. :cheers:

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1594 on: April 23, 2015, 12:21:20 PM »

My bible of sorts is the Pat Ganahl book  "Ford Performance".


The thing about that book that always made me scratch my head is that, as far as I could tell, when he wrote it, he had never owned a Ford engine.   :?

Maybe one of his friends knows?  :mrgreen:

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1595 on: April 23, 2015, 12:26:34 PM »
Mike --

I believe that his pickup (partial, far right) has a Ford in it.  He's owned it for many years.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1596 on: April 23, 2015, 05:19:12 PM »
Mike, I've built a Ford or two.... The Cleveland needs help getting/keeping oil to the main bearings then the rods. So the oil restrictors to the cam bearings is a must. I used a .060 orifice.
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1597 on: April 23, 2015, 06:02:00 PM »
Mike --

I believe that his pickup (partial, far right) has a Ford in it.  He's owned it for many years.

Stan

He published the book in '81.  My (so-called) memory is vague, but I'm pretty sure the '56 came years later.  In any case, this is a silly digression.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1598 on: April 23, 2015, 10:21:24 PM »
Mike, I've built a Ford or two.... The Cleveland needs help getting/keeping oil to the main bearings then the rods. So the oil restrictors to the cam bearings is a must. I used a .060 orifice.

I'e used the Moroso restrictors in my other motors. Should I go to the other mod in the vallley pan as well?.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1599 on: April 24, 2015, 11:03:07 AM »
We used to run Clevelands wide open in the "Bridge to Bridge" boat race in Aus with restrictors & no plumbing mods & a wet sump. Do a tear down & inspection then run the ski version of the same race. A total of more than 3 1/2 hrs on boost running wide open.
I built my own pans with crank scraper & windage tray. You cant feed the crank if the oil is in the valve covers. :roll:
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1600 on: April 24, 2015, 02:15:42 PM »
Mike, I've built a Ford or two.... The Cleveland needs help getting/keeping oil to the main bearings then the rods. So the oil restrictors to the cam bearings is a must. I used a .060 orifice.

I'e used the Moroso restrictors in my other motors. Should I go to the other mod in the vallley pan as well?.

I never have BUT the reason the mods are made is because the main oil galley is also the lifter galley on one side of the engine. If you have a valve train failure and a lifter should come out of its bore you will lose oil pressure to the main bearings. The same is true if the lifter to lifter bore clearance is excessive, you will have a leak that will diminish oil pressure to the mains down the line.
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1601 on: April 25, 2015, 12:51:06 AM »
The Australian fix was to bore the galley & press a tube down it with restrictor holes to the lifter bores.
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1602 on: April 25, 2015, 04:44:21 AM »
I think with a little help from my "friends" I'll figure it out.
Thanks Dynoroom and Sid.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1603 on: April 25, 2015, 10:50:34 PM »
  Mike,  There needs to be a like button on here for your posts. Also you need to set up a PayPal donate thing so that your worldwide friends and "silent" sponsors can help. too.  :-D
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1604 on: April 26, 2015, 06:08:29 AM »
Will this help?. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D