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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #750 on: November 27, 2014, 11:59:22 PM »
How are you reducing the rpm from 30 grand to the slower speed needed to turn the engine sprocket?  It seems the ring and pinion gear alone is not enough reduction.

The gearbox has a 5:1 reduction so the front sprocket will have a max rev of 6000rpm.

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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #751 on: November 28, 2014, 03:40:50 PM »
Anders,
Go to this web site and down load the tech article on high speed gear lubrication.  http://turbolab.tamu.edu/proc/turboproc/T33/t33-06.pdf

Interesting reading.

Rex



Hi Rex,

Very interesting reading indeed, and it somewhat confirmed my idea that the downside with post-mesh lubrication is acceptable compared to the alternative with all kinds of gear teeth damage.

If you consider the way the gearbox will work during a run it should probably work with injecting oil into the mesh, the gearbox will run from 0 rpm all the way up to 30.000/6.000rpm at the end of the run a couple of kilometers down the track so it will only see full revs a short while before I reach the end of the track.

Do you have a guess how much power I might lose on pre-mesh injection?

Industrial gears with 10.000h of life expectancy face all kinds of long term problems that I won´t have to deal with, I will happily change gears every 2 hours or so since that equals several years of racing.  :-)

Cheers!
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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #752 on: November 28, 2014, 07:50:50 PM »
Micro shot peening can roughen the surface so it retains lube better.  It is something I use on the race motor in places where I am worried about getting and retaining enough oil.  It seems to work.  An opinion from an expert on surface finishes might be worthwhile.   

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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #753 on: November 29, 2014, 12:18:48 AM »
Damnit, I made an error in the previous post. This is what it would have looked like, I blame the beer. :-)

"Very interesting reading indeed, and it somewhat confirmed my idea that the downside with pre-mesh lubrication is acceptable compared to the alternative with all kinds of gear teeth damage."

Cheers!
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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #754 on: November 29, 2014, 03:02:13 PM »
Beer induced mistakes are allowed on the board..............not on the build :-D :-D :-D
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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #755 on: November 29, 2014, 04:15:34 PM »
Thats a rule I can abide. :-)

I am currently walking around like an 90 year old man, tried my first marathon today where we were 40-ish runners in a group dressed up for the swedish lucia event. We ran for 4 hours and 30 minutes and I can feel it in my knees right now, luckily most of it can be cured with beer I think.  :-D



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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #756 on: November 29, 2014, 09:05:57 PM »
Nope... that's gonna take whiskey  :cheers:
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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #757 on: November 29, 2014, 09:54:52 PM »
I second that. :cheers:

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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #758 on: December 01, 2014, 04:01:52 PM »
Dear Mr. Johansson,

Congratulations! The Gas Turbine Landspeed Motorcycle is an amazing project and you were able to drive a great amount of votes.

You have won the November round of the Boca Bearings Innovation Contest! Kindly inform me of your shipping address to which we can send your Go Pro camera.

Best regards,

Thiago Medeiros


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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #759 on: December 01, 2014, 04:09:00 PM »
Congrats. :cheers:
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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #760 on: December 01, 2014, 04:17:45 PM »
Congratulations. I've got to say though, that's a lot of work just to win a camera!!!  :-D :-D :evil:

Well done Anders.

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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #761 on: December 01, 2014, 04:37:23 PM »
Very well deserved, Anders  :cheers:  :cheers:

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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #762 on: December 01, 2014, 05:37:44 PM »
Congratulations Anders , you achieved the win without a facebook account ! that's a 1st  :cheers:
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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #763 on: December 01, 2014, 10:08:39 PM »
Great! Now we might get to see some great videos...right?

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Re: APS/Ω Gas turbine bike build
« Reply #764 on: December 02, 2014, 08:46:09 AM »
Thanks a lot! :-)