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Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« on: March 22, 2013, 02:38:22 PM »
does anyone know what engine he used for that Mustang at Bonneville.  It would also be cool to know how fast he went.  Thanks
 
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 08:22:51 PM »
I believe you'll find there were 3 cars, red, blue, and yellow. All had different engines. Which one do you want to know about?
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 12:17:48 AM »
Hot Rod has a tube port article about this in the current issue.
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2013, 12:35:53 AM »
In the book Fast Fords by Alex Gabbard, It just mentions the three cars and one with a 302, and one with a 427.  Says they set 295 US, and international records.  They must not have run the third car because there was no mention of engine size, or how it did.  I don't know if the writer new a lot about LSR timing, he states that the 302 went 106.08 in the standing mile, which would put him at 180 at the mile mark.  :roll:

He states the 427 went 112.45 in the standing mile which would put him at over 190 at the mile mark.  :roll:  The engines were factory engines, so the 106 and 112 would be pretty much on the mark.  The writer must have been thinking drag racing, or they timed differently in 69.

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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 01:07:28 AM »
Standing-start records (average speed for the particular distance) are part of FIA; always have been.
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 12:54:38 PM »
I know that Jack, but the article said these were factory cars with factory engines, why there was a 427 in a 69 Mach I, I don't know.  The 427 had turned into the 428 CJ in 68, I heard there was a few of the 69 1/2 Mach I s' were given 429 CJs but have never seen one. 

The 302 averaged just under 160 in the 3 mile indurance run, I would think that if they were factory set ups, like the article said, their top speed would be close to 165.  Without ballast they would be close to airborne at that speed. 

The brand new corvette run on top gear from the standing 1 mile just barely met the figures of the 302.  So something just doesn't figure.  I'm sure I will be enlightened by a Mustang guru, or Danny, which ever comes first.  I raced a 70 shelby GT 500 back in 72 with my Torino, and his front end came off the ground at 145, scared the crap out of both of us.  :-o

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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 04:18:21 PM »
I was out there watching them run in 1968. Danny Ongais drove as well as Mickey. Mickey gave me a ride in one of the Mustangs on the International Course to give me an idea of the various issues at speed. Scared the dickens out of me. They did have three cars, but one blew the engine in the mile at speed. I thought it was the blue one, but maybe not. Bert Munro was also out there observing. They also ran for endurance records on the 10-mile circle. He was very generous with his time even though they were very busy with all of the records they attempted.
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 04:37:02 PM »
Holy coolness Mayoman, I would consider you blessed by the Gods of Speed.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 12:20:45 AM »
What Steve said....you were lucky to be a part of it, Mayoman.... :cheers:
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 06:26:36 PM »
Wow, way more information on this subject than I expected,  big thanks for the memories.
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 06:53:20 PM »
What is sad is out of the three cars only the blue one is around.  The yellow and red ones went back to Holman and Moody and were converted to Grand –Am cars.  Bobby Allison raced the red car under Coke sponsorship in Grand-Am and was later sold to Buddy Arrington to run in the ARCA series where it was destroyed.  The yellow one met the same fate, though the details are a little murky and rumors persist that it may still be around in some form.

As a side note according to John Helash in late 1969 he was going to get the blue car in exchange for building Micky a basement at his house (john was a contractor) but they just couldn’t agree on all the details.  That’s when John bought his ’69 mustang and had the Holman and Moody 427 SOHC installed in it for the salt.  Tony
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 10:48:09 PM »
Do you mind if I relay this information to the Saac Forum.  They are the Mustang guys and they were asking me about it.  I have a few old Mustangs (corvettes, Camaros, etc) myself and I am always interested in these stories being preserved.
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 10:50:03 PM »
I would also very much like to hear how John Helash did with his SOHC 427 effort.
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 12:51:11 AM »
Quote from: Randall Parker on March 24, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
... a few old Mustangs (corvettes, Camaros, etc)...
:? That's a confusing phrase...
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Re: Mickey Thompson drove a 1969 prototype Mustang at Bonneville in 1968
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2013, 10:45:40 AM »
Quote from: Jack Gifford on March 25, 2013, 12:51:11 AM
Quote from: Randall Parker on March 24, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
... a few old Mustangs (corvettes, Camaros, etc)...
:? That's a confusing phrase...

I can't believe you've never heard of the Ford Corvette...  :-o
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