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Offline freepistol

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Lakester
« on: February 17, 2013, 04:33:24 PM »
Hi Guys,

Could you help me with some basic Lakester knowledge?

1. Do they usually have rear brakes only?

2. Do they usually have a solid rear suspension (none) with a suspension up front

3. What kind of transmission or lack there of is usual (I was planning on a rear engine)

4. square steel welded frame, aluminum body panels.

5. Tail fin


Thanks guys,

Dwight





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Re: Lakester
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2013, 04:48:48 PM »
first of all where are you going to run  and how fast want to???
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2013, 04:57:59 PM »
When you decied where you will run. Get a rule book and pick a class. Small motors may go faster than than you think. Our Lakester went 246 in H/BGL and 204 in J/FL. It has a rear  break only and a tail. Springs both ends. Much fun and has gained 6 of us entry into the 200MPH club :cheers:
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 04:59:02 PM »
Dwight, you will answer all those questions for yourself... they are all different.  The rules say no part of the body outside the inner plane of the narrowest set of tires... anything else is builders choice.
We have a rear brake(sort of), full suspension, bike transmissions, round and square tube frame and currently a fin.  
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 06:59:46 PM »
And listen to these guys^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Stainless and Johnboy know thier cheeit. I rely on them for lots of input building our lakester. Also, look at the build threads, lots of tech questions answered in the replies.
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 08:18:11 PM »
Sorry not to answer back very fast, I was cooking dinner.  As to where I am going to run, I am pretty sure I will start out at the Texas MIle as it is only 200 miles away.I would like to go to speed week someday.  All this is due to see ing the Spirit of America several times as a kid, and the Blue Flame at the All American Soap Box Derby in Akron once.  I expect a project like this should take years to do, I wish I lived where there was a club as I'm sure the best information out there is the oral history, and hard won trial and error engineering from many, many people.  In any case there are not any plans, kits ,or books on how to whip  up a lakester.  I am building some small models at the moment as it seems like a place to start, and you can't get yourself killed with balsa wood as far as I know.  I would be running a V8 on gas with no blower to start with as there are so many parts around for them.

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Re: Lakester
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2013, 09:36:07 PM »
First order a scta rulebook, read it till the print wears off, look at the records, decide which one you can attack and get building... keeping in mind that the number is ever changing.  Don't remember many V8 records under 200, so plan for that when building. 
Build to run the salt and you will be legal everywhere.
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2013, 10:26:48 PM »
Thank you all for your kind responses.  I was looking at Goodyear land racing tires, wow you really need to take good care of those!

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Re: Lakester
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 10:44:58 PM »
to go FASTEST you must be effieient -- minimize drag of all kinds  you must have the best power to DRAG ratio to be a record holder!!
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 12:29:23 PM »
If you are going to run in Texas, you will need bigger brakes front and rear, not near as much room to stop as on the salt.
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 02:24:13 PM »
an auto tranny without a torque converter is easier on the tires and has less drag  but for Tx you may want a fat tire and run with one!!
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Re: Lakester
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 08:52:39 PM »
Speedway tires may be better on pavement. LSR tires do not have much rubber on them. Look at a rule book, you have to build to the class record, not to the speed you think you will run. Good luck and please keep us informed on your build.
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Re: Lakester Transmission
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 05:36:49 AM »
would a lakester have an automatic, standard, or no transmission at all (just a clutch)  I found a book, but it is very out of date and it talked about lakesters having no transmission, just a push truck,  I would think an automatic would be easier to to hook a linkage to the rear engine compared to linkage to the standard. Having no transmission would be like being in 4th gear forever.
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Dwight
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Re: Lakester Transmission
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 10:14:20 AM »
Quote from: freepistol on February 19, 2013, 05:36:49 AM
would a lakester have an automatic, standard, or no transmission at all (just a clutch)  I found a book, but it is very out of date and it talked about lakesters having no transmission, just a push truck,  I would think an automatic would be easier to to hook a linkage to the rear engine compared to linkage to the standard. Having no transmission would be like being in 4th gear forever.
Thanks,

Dwight

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Re: Lakester
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 10:17:05 AM »
It depends on the motor. We run motorcycle motors with 5 or 6 speed trans. Big motors on fuel may be run without a trans. We push to 30 MPH to help save the clutch.
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