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Offline 116ciHemi

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FZR600
« on: February 14, 2013, 12:18:51 AM »
So, school's been eating my time and racing budget, but after a season of owning the CL350, the inevitable has happened: I want something that can go faster than 60 mph. I've happened on what looks to me to be a decent deal: a 1994 Yamaha FZR600. I am just wondering if anyone here has any info good or bad on the model. It'd be my primary vehicle for the summer, and if I ever get down to a riding course and get it up to tech, maybe a pass or two at Wilmington. I wanted to run it by people here, since most of y'all have forgotten a lot more about bikes than I know. 

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 01:32:37 AM »
Walt, the Japanese often have a short attention span when it comes to making bikes.  They make a big batch of them and move on to something completely different.  Dealers do not stock a lot of parts for this reason.  It is not a good investment for them.  The parts and the bikes will be obsolete and discontinued in a few years.  Twenty years is getting to be the point where the manufacturer has lost interest in making replacement parts and some critical items can be hard to get.  In 2000 I sold a perfectly good 1979 Yamaha 1100 Special 'cause I could not find a starter clutch anywhere.  The bike was a beauty but it did me no good if I could not start it.       

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 08:56:58 PM »
Excellent point. Looking at parts availability, I can see some of that. Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat with my 350, and I don't see many 600cc bikes that run and ride well for this price.

This bike comes with a nicely loaded out box of spare parts, and the owner has made a couple of modifications replacing some of the hard to find parts with more common stuff. He used the bike to build and test fuel injection systems for the FZR, which he would then sell. This particular model looks a bit rough. If I didn't know the owner, I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The body panels are mismatched and kind of beaten up the thing was painted in a couple of gawdawful color schemes that when all was said and done, nothing matched. It was laid down before he bought it. However, he maintains things impeccably. Any mechanical damge has been properly repaired. It runs well and everything related to how it rides and it's safety is in excellent condition. It comes with plastics to replace the cracked and scratched parts, and he daily rode the thing over the summer.

I'll need to do some work to make it look nice, but I have a friend that does a good job with paint that I can usually trade labor and car parts with to help me out. Mechanically I am confident in it, and I don't see anything on the bike that I don't have the tools to handle.  And at least initially, I'll be keeping the Honda as a backup/parts chaser while I finish making it nice enough to sell for a decent price- likely enough recoup my initial investment in the Yamaha.

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 09:17:44 PM »
Walt, I'd say "go buy the FZR" and enjoy it.  I know that you're limited in the amount of time/year that you can ride -- a product of living and going to school way up north.  And that implies you won't be able to put too many miles on it as long trips (other than Cadillac to Hoton and back) since you're in school for most of the year and doing summer job stuff or summer classes during the summer.  So - replacement parts, while perhaps difficult to get -- might not be a big issue since you won't have a huge amount of riding to wear out things on the bike.

If the price is where you want it to be -- go ahead, buy it and enjoy it.  Motorcycle riding in the Copper Country is great, for sure.  Some warm day, especially in the autumn, take the road that leads from just before Porcupine Mountain State Park to near Wakefield.  Just enough curves to be fun, very little traffic, fabulous scenery.  Or ride up to the Gay Bar (yes, folks, there is a bar in the town of Gay - up in Michigan's Keweenaw peninsula) and around the south side of the Keweenaw. 

Yep - get the bike.
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Re: FZR600
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 09:37:41 PM »
Side note- I blame all y'all for my getting into bikes in the first place. Before I was normal. I like having sheetmetal wrapped around me, air conditioning, and passenger space. Three weeks from now will be the first time in six years that I haven't owned a car. Right now I'm going stir crazy because I haven't had the Honda on the road since late December and I want to get out and ride.


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Re: FZR600
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 01:58:56 PM »
Try this link www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/yam/50042f82f8700209bc78a7d7/crankcase

Print all of these pages that apply for your yam.  This gives oem parts numbers and parts drawings.  Type the oem part # into your search engine when you need something.  This is a good way to scour the world for parts. 

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2013, 02:21:47 PM »
Hey, Walt -

I can recommend these guys for the odd-ball stuff -

http://milwaukeecycle.com/

They changed hands a few years back, and it used to be rather frustrating shopping there, but they've got an amazing number of used parts on the shelves, and they've let me just walk the warehouse, which is how I sourced my auxiliary radiator for the Midget.

They are not cheap, but in a town that you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Harley, it's safe haven for the rest of the bike guys - even us former bike guys.

And I don't care how slow the 350 is - those darned things are amazing bikes.  Love the bars.
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2013, 03:28:14 PM »
Oh, don't get me wrong- I love the little 350. Depending on how a job works out I might not sell it for awhile. She's cheap to insure and tag, and she doesn't take much space. But I have made MANY 200 mile round trips with the thing, and that engine just isn't happy keeping up with traffic going 65 for that long. Above the happy low end and right below the 6000 rpm "let's go" powerband. At WOT with a good tuck and the gearing I've got I wouldn't put 95 mph past it, but I'd be shocked if it would pull triple digits. (leave it me to go out and buy a motorcycle that would've been smoked by my Escort)

Someone here had posted that on a 350, life begins past 6000 rpm- they were right on. At times when I was learning I was quite certain my life was going end there as well. I'll have to be very careful with the 600 since I'll be going from 35 hp and 400lbs to ~85 hp and 450 lbs. I feel like there will be a significant difference.

Try this link www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/yam/50042f82f8700209bc78a7d7/crankcase

Print all of these pages that apply for your yam.  This gives oem parts numbers and parts drawings.  Type the oem part # into your search engine when you need something.  This is a good way to scour the world for parts. 

Thanks a ton- that should save me a good bit of time if I do have problems.

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 04:40:01 PM »
Walt,
Put some pic's up if you do go for the Yam, as being able to exactly identify which model could help in offering advice.
The little 600's are very popular this side of the pond  :-D

Neil
Old enough to know better, but too interested in speed to care

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2013, 06:28:10 PM »
Walt - Simply typing in your Yamaha part # into a search engine helps.  Try this:  www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-22U-12159-00-00.html 

This page is for an another bike but it is a good example.  It lists all of the other Yamamas that have the same part.  This is an invaluable tool for all of us who scrounge parts where ever we can find them.  Yamaha is good at having parts interchangeability throughout their model line.       

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 12:35:52 AM »
I was slightly mistaken- this one is a '95 model. (I don't know if that actually makes a difference for these- I haven't found year to year information yet)

She's kind of homely. Heck, even when they are clean they aren't the prettiest thing on the road.


One other note with my impending purchase of this- I'd eventually like to upgrade the nut atop the seat and hit a riding school somewhere. With that said, I've got pretty cheap leathers right now. I'd like to look for a respectable 1 piece suit and riding gear, but I'm on a college student's budget right now. Eventually I'd like to take Slim's recommendation and get a good suit made, but on my budget- that isn't happening for a couple of years. My physical build is still changing making anything made to fit kind of moot anyway. So I'm wondering if anyone has experience with finding decent used leathers, and something that would be legal, and more importantly, safe to wear down the track at Wilmington. (an eventual goal, though maybe not with the FZR)

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 10:34:37 PM »
Is that a Husky in the background?

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2013, 10:08:46 PM »
Yes- that is the current owner's dog, Oreo. That photo was taken this summer- right now there is about 3' of snow where the motorcycle was sitting.

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Re: FZR600
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 06:53:37 PM »
hehehe...

Sportbike fast...


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Re: FZR600
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2013, 10:05:56 PM »
And so power-to-weight ratio claims another cager... :)