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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #60 on: January 16, 2007, 11:48:13 AM »
I think it's gorgeous the way it is!  Screw the graphics and decals!
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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2007, 05:11:55 PM »
Eric,
How did you guess?  :-D With questions like mine that Im building a liner.
Its going to be an Omega class powered machine.
Thanks very much for the information. Especially about the vehicle dynamics

I have had a good  look at the pegasus racing site. Great!

Eric with the wisdom of hindsight is there any thing saftey wise that you would have done differently?
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An Omega powered motorcycle liner, or a car liner?  The former seems rather difficult!

These guys could use some competition:
http://www.steamcar.co.uk/

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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2007, 08:54:52 AM »
Yes they have a rather ambitious project. Nice website
Mine is much simpler and hopefully a little quicker in the construction phase.
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An Omega powered motorcycle liner, or a car liner?  The former seems rather difficult!

These guys could use some competition:
http://www.steamcar.co.uk/
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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #63 on: May 16, 2007, 01:43:45 PM »
John posted the May ’07 El Mirage report.  I’ll drive next month with a higher gear and a bigger dose of nitrous, in an attempt to beat John’s 113.111 mph in 50cc S-F.
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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2007, 02:10:45 PM »
John posted the May ’07 El Mirage report.  I’ll drive next month with a higher gear and a bigger dose of nitrous, in an attempt to beat John’s 113.111 mph in 50cc S-F.
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Congrats....you guys are my hero's  :-) .  I was looking at your streamliner a little while ago and thought hang some wheels/tires off the side of it and put a hair dryer on that little motor and you could set some records in K lakester class with a motor that is 450 cc under maximum allowed size  :wink: .  Be pretty impressive to set a record in a 500 cc class with a 50 cc motor.

I like the paint job also.  Hope to see you guys there for the June meet,

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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2007, 10:20:44 PM »
"and the lady upstairs was getting tired of the noise."

I just read the above on your web site and about cracked-up!

My God! I can't imagine living above two crazies doing continuous dyno runs on a hot 50cc 2-Stroke!

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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2007, 03:13:20 PM »

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I'll second that without hesitation.The shot of the car in green is just gorgeous.Big up guys.
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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2007, 09:57:21 PM »
John posted the May ’07 El Mirage report.  I’ll drive next month with a higher gear and a bigger dose of nitrous, in an attempt to beat John’s 113.111 mph in 50cc S-F.
Eric

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Congrats....you guys are my hero's  :-) .  I was looking at your streamliner a little while ago and thought hang some wheels/tires off the side of it and put a hair dryer on that little motor and you could set some records in K lakester class with a motor that is 450 cc under maximum allowed size  :wink: .  Be pretty impressive to set a record in a 500 cc class with a 50 cc motor.

I like the paint job also.  Hope to see you guys there for the June meet,

Sum


Yikes, that would be pretty ambitious to go after a car record with just one wheel getting traction, but they already have one sidecar built, just need a mirror.

I've always been impressed with this streamliner, it's a real beautiful piece of art, and being ran very well.

What's the biggest motor that would fit in that thing?

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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2007, 01:46:57 AM »
We did our early testing with a Honda 125, two stroke singles up to 175cc will bolt in (two to three times more power) but with a few modifications anything is possible.  This year we want to go for the FIM 50cc World record in September, after that we would like to develop a “big” motor for next year. 

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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2008, 03:02:26 PM »
John posted our May El Mirage report; but the short version is: we ran the 50 with a turbo on fuel.  It makes less power than normally aspirated for 90% of the rpm range then builds to a power peak at the rev limiter that is 25% higher (~ 6psi boost) .   The streamliner with the sidecar went about 8% faster than the same set up without a turbo. The numbers are working exactly as predicted by a cubic function.

The motor survived 4 El Mo runs and appears happy.  We didn’t data log the boost pressure during the runs but our dyno testing leads us to believe that the waist gate may allow the boost to creep upward.  Durability at Bonneville is still a big question (we get to enjoy the long course for a several minutes at over 14,000 rpm). 

Cylinders are hard to get; so we may turn the boost down for testing at the June El Mirage event. After the World finals it will be fun to lock the waist gate and see what it will do at El Mo.

Just finished the Bub paperwork; John will be going after the Blown fuel 50cc FIM record and I will use a CR80 motor (the “Big Block”) for an attempt at the normally aspirated fuel 100cc FIM record.

We heard a possibly unfounded rumor that the Motobcane factory is sending a 50cc streamliner to Bonneville this year….the guy that said it; had a thick French accent and was on a moped (at El Mo). Quite often we hear news that someone is building a small streamliner, but I if they do actually start construction; it appears that the volume of work stops them before completion.

Rocky Robinson gave us a write up on mototcycle-usa
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=6462&Page=1

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Re: Buddfab Streamliner
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2008, 09:32:39 PM »
Eighty see-see?  We're gonna have to stand back behind the dike (dyke?)!  Go get 'em!  You guys have more than paid your dues -- don't worry about frogs leaping on the course.  Best Always.
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