2013 Bike and Car rule changes

[dw230]

Pat - same truck
Stan - same guy
4 Barrel Mike - I pointed out the same thing in a PM before I got to this thread
All - I doubt this will be the last we hear, unless Pat changes his name again.

DW

[Glen]

Sounds like a guy in Flordia is giving him ideas, maybe a diesel powered pusher propster is coming new class  DPPPPU.

[Stainless1]

Stan, put a chin strap on it. 

Bob, stay away from the vet... go back on you regular meds

Pat, the only change I saw to DT was external down bars allowed...  race within the rules or submit changes

Dan, if I get to Freud's BNWR I'll buy you a drink 

[jimmy six]

Minor trim item removal is restricted to the /VGC class.

This is in 5.B.4......Isn't it ment to say "Minor trim item removal is restricted IN the /VGC class"  I thought the vote was to keep door handles, hinges; etc. I thought the minor trim was nosing and decking.

As for Ameican Iron I thought Mike was nuts....but I do know where a '66 396 with a short crank is....Hummmm........JD

[NathanStewart]

... it says you have to have a rear floor or aft  bulkhead...

But, the first sentence of 3.E says "no open driver's compartment".

Jack, that's exactly why I've never built a race car without first going to at least one event so I understood how the rules were being interpreted and enforced. Sometimes how the rules are written and how they are actually used are what appears to me to be very wide apart. This goes for most forms of racing.

Context counts!  

Pete

not only does context count but reading the rule in it's entirety also helps.  this new rule requires that all cars now have either a rear floor or bulkhead.  what's so hard to understand about that?  do you really think there'd be a rule outlawing open cars?

[maguromic]

 do you really think there'd be a rule outlawing open cars?

Now that's funny.  Tony  

[krusty]

 do you really think there'd be a rule outlawing open cars?

Now that's funny.  Tony  
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Only if the engine wasn't in front of the driver....         vic

[dw230]

Lets reread this again JD

The rules in these classes are identical to the respective Modified Category classes, except that only 1948 or earlier bodies with XF, XO, XXF, XXO, V4 or V4F engines are allowed.  In all classes except VGC, fenders and running boards may be removed if it can be done by unbolting the fenders from the body. Pre-1949 bodies may have a 3 in. beauty chop. Pre-1949 cars shall have radiator/grille shells of the same manufacturer as the body, e.g., Ford on Ford, Chevy on Chevy, etc.  Air Dams (4.CC.1) are not permitted in the Vintage Gas Coupe and Sedan classes using vintage engines. Minor trim items, door handles, exposed hinges and rain gutters may be removed in the Competition Coupe and Altered classes only. Minor trim items may be removed in the Gas Coupe classes.

In bold print the 1st sentence tells us that CC and Alt can remove a bunch of stuff. Sentence #2 tells us that /VGC can remove minor trim ONLY. This does not include the aforementioned door handles, exposed hinges, etc from sentence #1.

DW

[Tman]

I must be slipping.................Pat is back with ANOTHER name change?

[SteveM]

I'm just trying to understand what this rule change in addressing with respect to windows...

The original roll up window hole may be closed in replacing the frameless glass window with polycarbonate

What is "the original roll up window hole"?   

I am guessing that it means that we are allowed to weld a piece of steel over the factory window "slot", through which the original roll up window operated (at the top of the door)?. 

I can see where that might make it easier to fabricate and fit a polycarbonate window, but I'm not sure about the meaning of this rule change.

Steve.

[dw230]

If you are running in a class where flush mounted windows are not allowed the poly will be mounted to the inside of the roll up slot. Poly is usually thinner than the glass it is replacing. The resulting gap can be filled by welding in material or other means.

Same rules, more words

DW

[SteveM]

Gotcha. 

Narrowing of the window slot is allowed, in order to close up the gap created by the thinner poly (as compared to OEM glass).

Steve.

[jimmy six]

Sorry Dan didn't see it as a comma. I was sure what was meant but meaning something and sometimes writing it leaves things open......Thanks

[JustaRacer]

I must be slipping.................Pat is back with ANOTHER name change?

The movie quote is from Brokeback Drylake - "I can't quit you!"

 

I kill off my user so I won't waste time on the internet.  But I actually like LSR.

My problem is most of my work is done on a computer, and via the internet.  We do product testing.  So I can't just turn off the web.

[JustaRacer]

Sounds like a guy in Flordia is giving him ideas, maybe a diesel powered pusher propster is coming new class  DPPPPU.

The class is B/DAB = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9lSDpQ7RaY