Australian Streamliner Bike Build

[maj]

I am another affected, just brought a part done liner that is pretty close to current SCTA spec , intending it to be included in our annual pilgrimage to Bonneville and hope to make Sept El Mirage again too.

If this goes as poorly as it looks Bubs and Cooks will get a lot of bike liners
DLRA use the previous yrs SCTA book but we can make rule changes ,

[1212FBGS]

Crap that sux Maj..... yep another dream of running for a record with the SCTA dashed.... as i said before, the SCTA did know of liners that this rule would affect... testimony was given at the rules meeting.... Van lied in his presentation to the rules committee members including the paperwork sent out to all of the clubs to vote on.... i think the correct information should be brought back to all the clubs for re vote but in reality the 12 clubs only get 1 vote each.... let me see if i can remember all of the committee's that voted on this "motorcycle" rule.... ummm.... oh yeah.... the Tech committee co-chairs (2 votes), the rules committee chair, the certification officer, the fire and fuel extinguishing systems specialist, special construction category chair, vintage car chair, vintage roadster chair, vintage oval track chair, vintage coupe and sedan chair, regular coupe and sedan chair, modified sports chair, truck and pickup chair.... ummmm oh yeah the motorcycle committee chair and the motorcycle head inspector.... like i said before most of these people had talked about this before the rules meeting..... opposition against this rule didn't stand a chance.....
kent

[dw230]

Please exclude me from your list of voters. I DO NOT vote at that meeting. I do vote as a board member next Friday.

DW
Certification Officer

[1212FBGS]

Ok... I know you were there but i didnt pay attention to the fact you weren't voting at the rules meeting... all i witnessed was you trying to heard cats.....

[dw230]

By pushing the rope.

DW

[55chevr]

It appears that the car racers would prefer that motorcycle liners race at other events.  It is just not practical to change the infrastructure of a liner.  The costs to run an event are extraordinary.  The financial base is critical to continuing the Bonneville salt flats as a racing venue.  In order to be financially successful you need all the entries you can get.  Anyone thinking that they can eliminate any specific group in the interest of shorter lines is naive.  Eventually the events will be shortened to reduce cost and then reduced in number to secure enough entries.  There is a base of maybe 1000 entries and to gerrymander any away is silly.   

Joe

[Seldom Seen Slim]

It's my turn to make a post here. 

What I see in this thread is valid per the title -- a build diary.  But there's also a bunch of discussion of rules and changes and such -- that maybe should go to a topic all by itself.  We've got a main topic section for that:  "SCTA Rules Questions".  I'll create a thread there for "streamliner bike rules" or something - if one of you hasn't already done so by the time I get done with some engraving here at Kudos.

Both the build and the rules are valid subjects for this Forum - but let's make sure that folks that are maybe not interested in a bike build but would be very interested in the rules process have a chance to see the issue and discuss it.  You start it - or I will, later.  Thanks.

[dw230]

"It appears that the car racers would prefer that motorcycle liners race at other events."

I don't believe that is the case. I think the proposed rule change was submitted in a misguided attempt to make the chassis safer. By requiring the same tubing sizes across the board it brings the rules into alignment for the fastest vehicles. The people sitting in a room reading several sheets of paper with requests for rules which will provide the requestor a personal advantage are easily swayed by a smooth talking sales person. It is a very long day and many of the people using their personal time and expenses travel great distance to participate.

I say "give 'em a break"

The SCTA does not pay for professional consultants or employees, there are no funds. For instance, the World Finals lost in excess of $56K. The people who are doing things like supplying their professional training do so because they have a passion for the sport. If you have expertise in a field specific to land speed racing then volunteer your help[. Negative postings, calling the people who are trying to help stupid and worse are not conductive to a healthy sport.

Your club recieves the proposals well in advance of the meeting. Participate if ypu care. Those not in a SCTA club can contact a friend who is and get the info there. This is like everything else in life, it takes a little effort to make something worth while.

DW

[Stan Back]

For what it's worth -- the percentage of motorcycle participants at SCTA's SpeedWeek has increased each of the last few years.

[1212FBGS]

Changing rules because some "Misguided" individual that has influence all make good sense.... and in the end "it makes good toast!"

must see and turn it up.....

http://gawker.com/5959783/28-years-ago-the-today-show-aired-the-greatest-interview-in-television-history?tag=today+show


kent

[superleggera]

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Note -- let's move this to the SCTA rules section.  Pointless to screwup a good bike build thread!

New thread started here with the rule change statement per Slim's suggestion:

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12035.0.html

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[killajoule]

Eva here.

Then we stuff like the Killacycle electric motorcycle streamliner sidecar. It spent a stupid amount of time in tech, and in the end she packed it up and went home because it was just made too hard for her. I had a very good look at it at BUB and I could see nothing that should have stopped it running at Speedweek.

The "endless" tech inspection of the "KillaJoule" electric motorcycle streamliner happened at World Finals 2011. 
The tech inspection lasted all of tech inspection day and involved about 10 different tech inspection with at 11 different opinions.
It continued the following day in the they same manner, until the documentary TV crew showed up. At that point, suddenly, logic prevailed and all the paperwork was approved and signed within 30 minutes. It was unfortunately, at the very same moment the event was cancelled due to the rain.

The electric sidecar went home because she couldn't ride it. Got lost on course and headed for the timing tower.

The above is from a separate event - the very first we attended with the brand new (barely) finished streamliner (World of Speed 2010). Just couldn't get it to balance, as much as we tried. Passed tech then too.
After that, I went home and put on "the training wheel".  Now it runs like on rails! 

// Eva   

[grumm441]

Ok
We have moved the tubing rant from Jons build diary to

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12035.15.html

Ok
G

[penny]

On november 8 I posted "motor cycle streamliner for sale " .Idid that to generate some comment as i couldn,t find anything posted about this absurd rule change that worldwide had appeared to slip through to the keeper .Those in the Know of the rule change appeared to keep it to themselves . I am glad that it now is at least being discussed in public .paul penny Australia .

[dw230]

Thanks for the clarification Eva. Too many events, too many years - they seem to run together.

I stand corrected,
DW