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Offline Dr Goggles

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #240 on: May 07, 2012, 01:40:09 AM »
I Dunno, Sid, your Hiway `chute test stories seemed about as risky..... ---- :-o  thats why the have access roads!---been there do that  :-D

you left your glasses in the shed yeah?

Not risky at all Sparky, a long wide county road with no driveways that looks like it's built for testing something!
We too Steve's Cobra Torino over there too.
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #241 on: May 07, 2012, 02:30:01 AM »
Nice stuff Wayno, I like a little art work in race cars too.  :cheers:
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #242 on: May 07, 2012, 04:53:43 PM »
Nice stuff Wayno, I like a little art work in race cars too.  :cheers:
  Sid.

The chute door is cool, I thought it had old Customline V8 badge on it but its slotted in, very nice.
Envy you guys with 4 wheels that can have just a cable pull for chute release, I can see why we need to have a tilt switch chute release but it makes it more complex.

Talked to Bob Stroud this am and have a couple of main tube spring launch pilot chutes coming.
That will make the chute area a lot simpler and cleaner, still need to make an interlock trigger so the tail opens if I pull either chute, think I have a pretty simple system sussed.

Going to hook the tilt switch to the slow speed/bigger chute for maximum stopping, does that make sense?
I see the Bub rules for the chute tilt switch is different to SCTA/DLRA rules; it's at 40 degrees rather than 45 my tilt switch is adjustable but just going to set it at 40, if I get past that the bike will assuming it's natural state anyway I think.

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #243 on: May 07, 2012, 07:37:36 PM »
Jon, the 'chute door on my car is the center of a 1936 Ford hubcap. Wayno

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #244 on: May 07, 2012, 08:10:57 PM »
If the low speed is your only chute, then thats a given but you don't want to be outside your low speed range when that happens.
& I say "when" because you're a coupla wheels shy of being a race car.
What are the other bikeliner guys doing?
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #245 on: May 07, 2012, 11:05:18 PM »
Not sure what the others are doing Sid.
I thought I read somewhere that Bub7 has both chutes in the one tube, one behind the other.

I'll ask the proven runners what they are doing.

Having it switch from one to another at different speeds is too complex I recon.
I will only be running one until I ever get over 250 so no decision to make.
If it gets out of shape enough to go past 40 degrees I recon I want the most out that I can.

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #246 on: May 08, 2012, 12:22:35 AM »
I think that chute they hooked you up with might be a bit of a surprise at 250, considering your lack of weight. Too much chute could screw up an other wise good pass but if it's on it's side, I think you're right about the whole bigger is better thing.
With a cross form chute, you can delay the blossom & reduce the hit by taping the shroud lines together about a foot away from the canopy. This allows it to go all the way out & hit before it blossoms.  I use electrical tape & go around twice. It might be a little different with a ribbon chute.
Again, do some testing out the back of the ute & see what you like.  You don't need to use the pilot for this , just toss the chute out & let the tow line feed out of a cardbord box or a piece of pvc pipe. Once you like what you see & it repeats, then hang your mail box on the back corner of the ute & test your whole system.
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #247 on: May 08, 2012, 12:26:33 AM »
Jon, just posted over on Max's thread, but here it is again.  
Both chutes fire if the tip over is activated.  Max's tip switch has a separate mercury switch circuit for each chute wired to fire the pilot pneumatically when tipped.  They do not require master power to be on, they are wired straight to the battery through a fuse of course.
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2012, 01:32:23 AM »
Thanks guys.

Sid; My kids have been hassling me about trying the chute behind my ute since I first got it.
I'm driving to Lake Gairdner rather than riding so might give it a shot, there's some pretty vacant roads around Burke and Cobar.

Stainless; thanks to you and Max.

Sam Wheeler and Mike Akatiff were kind enough to get back to me and they throw both chutes as well.

Both chutes it is, if I get to needing 2.

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #249 on: May 08, 2012, 01:52:40 AM »
Kids know best how to have fun, I still have a big chunk of kid in me.
I've been to Burke, "vacant roads" is an understatement mate.
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #250 on: May 08, 2012, 02:31:27 AM »
I still have a big chunk of kid in me.
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I think that would cover most of the LSR community?
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #251 on: May 08, 2012, 12:32:59 PM »
Yep!! Cool huh?
So are you the first crazy fuc.... I mean are you the first bikeliner in Oz?
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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #252 on: May 08, 2012, 03:57:33 PM »
Yep!! Cool huh?
So are you the first crazy fuc.... I mean are you the first bikeliner in Oz?
  Sid.

I hope to never grow up.

There's a few of us crazy fuc.... I mean bikeliners in Aus that I know of, most of them a lot further on than me.

Lucky Keiser has run with his Merlin Vee twin then a 351 clevo (I think), its retired and in the Laidely bike museum and he now has his 2nd bike running.

Ross has his 3 engine Voodoo Rocket build diary on the DLRA website.

Bones has a build under way that we get the occasional glimpse of in the background of other pics but he isn't giving a lot away.

The grapevine says there's a multi Bussa engined project on down south, I've heard 2&3 engines, Grumm says 3 and he wouldn't take the piss.

I'm the jony come lately.

I've posted a question in Sparky's build about harness's.
I haven't used anything more complex than a 5 point before, any experience or advice on what to do or avoid would be great.
Mounting preferences, latches, 7 or 9 point pros and cons, 2" or 3" shoulder straps with a HANS etc.
Someone (think it was Sparky or Stainless, I have Craft on names sorry)  recommended not using the twist type release in a small riders compartment, Bob recommended twist release.

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #253 on: May 08, 2012, 05:20:42 PM »
Jon, my belts are done exactly the way Sparky's are. I hope he's right.  :lol: Mine are where they are to get the belt loadings in the right places and to fit in where they need to be. Wayno

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Re: Australian Streamliner Bike Build
« Reply #254 on: May 08, 2012, 05:31:25 PM »
Thanks Wayno, which buckle did you go with?

I found this googling on the train; http://www.schroth.com/installation-instructions/en/03_anchorage_locations_and_geometries.htm

Looks like straps 3&4 go under the HANS then 8&9 over the HANS.
they also have a chart for the widths of straps 3,4,8&9 that I think I will use.

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