|
Jonny Hotnuts
|
 |
« on: March 12, 2012, 01:06:40 AM » |
|
I am about to build a new SS header for my car. I would like it to play double duty and also work as a bike header. I am suggesting building a standard dimension turbo busa header except in the car application mounting a flanged pipe where the turbo mounts to the header and piping it around and up to facilitate better car mounting for the turbo.  basically taking a header like this one and mounting a 3" u bend pipe to the flange at about 3' in length and mounting the turbo to it. I could remove the 'mid pipe' for running in the bike. My questions is that I am concerned that there will be a problem with 4-5" joining so close to the head then connecting to a much longer run. Most applications I have seen keep the tubes from head to collector are longer then the distance from the collector to turbo...... Am I over thinking this?  ? ~JH |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
jonny_hotnuts@hotmail.com "Sometimes it is impossible to deal with her, but most of the time she is very sweet, and if you caress her properly she will sing beautifully." *Andres Segovia (when Im not working on the car, I am ususally playing classical guitar)
|
|
|
SPARKY
Global Moderator
Hero Member
 Offline
Age: 70
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3638
|
|
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 08:19:42 AM » |
|
Corky Bell suggests that you might want to, at the very least elongate the holes, outboard the center making them longer the closer you get to the outside, maybe also consider cutting the plate to allow for "growth"
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 04:52:51 PM by SPARKY »
|
Logged
|
WORDS to build by!
"--virtually the entire success of a turbo/engine system lies in thermal managemant."
Corky Bell MAXIMUM BOOST
" I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts." A. Lincoln
agendadocumentary.com
|
|
|
maj
Sr. Member
Offline
Age: 49
Location: Vic Australia
Posts: 357
|
|
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 04:19:25 PM » |
|
Make a dedicated header for the car, you have more room than a bike and can make a better flowing unit
Richard sells a nice one piece investment cast stainless flange with the head spigots inclusive
some shed 10 pipe and bends and you can make a real nice header that will take lots of abuse without cracking and fit on the head again properly after removal
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jonny Hotnuts
|
|
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 11:02:39 PM » |
|
Maj, took your advice.  ~JH |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
jonny_hotnuts@hotmail.com "Sometimes it is impossible to deal with her, but most of the time she is very sweet, and if you caress her properly she will sing beautifully." *Andres Segovia (when Im not working on the car, I am ususally playing classical guitar)
|
|
|
SPARKY
Global Moderator
Hero Member
Offline
Age: 70
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3638
|
|
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 11:10:45 PM » |
|
NICE
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
WORDS to build by!
"--virtually the entire success of a turbo/engine system lies in thermal managemant."
Corky Bell MAXIMUM BOOST
" I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts." A. Lincoln
agendadocumentary.com
|
|
|
maj
Sr. Member
Offline
Age: 49
Location: Vic Australia
Posts: 357
|
|
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 12:41:29 AM » |
|
Looks real good
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
redhotracing
|
|
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 09:57:20 AM » |
|
Great work.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Luke- Winston Salem, NC
LTA 200 Club Member
Maxton- 195.962mph
|
|
|
Captthundarr
Hero Member
Offline
Age: 52
Location: Swansboro, NC
Posts: 903
In line
|
|
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 10:24:45 AM » |
|
that should pass some gas  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Live,Laugh, Love / Jack Scratch Racing /ECTA
Amy Hartman-Driver, Frank Hartman-everthing else.
C/GALT 137.65 Ohio Mile
|
|
|
|
Peter Jack
|
|
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 11:59:14 AM » |
|
Jonny: You're becoming an excellent fabricator.  Pete |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
My avatar shows Tok, a 100# Alaskan Malamute.
He's the one who runs everything around here.
|
|
|
Stainless1
Global Moderator
Hero Member
Offline
Age: 62
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 4435
Robert W. P. "Stainless" Steele Wichita, Kansas
|
|
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 10:04:03 PM » |
|
JNuts, is the turbo going to be high enough the drain oil back to the pan or are you planning an external pump.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Stainless
MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
|
|
|
|
Jonny Hotnuts
|
|
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 07:41:09 PM » |
|
THanks for the nice comments all..... JNuts, is the turbo going to be high enough the drain oil back to the pan or are you planning an external pump. RS, the turbo sits at head level. Its so tight in the bay I didnt have a bunch of options. So far mounting the turbo in this location has worked out pretty well. Heres a pic of the same header about 1/2 polished:  Also a pic of the crazy new turbo going on it!!!!  (Forced Performance HTA 7 blade billet GT3582r with Tial hot housing) Just came in TODAY!!!! ~JH |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
jonny_hotnuts@hotmail.com "Sometimes it is impossible to deal with her, but most of the time she is very sweet, and if you caress her properly she will sing beautifully." *Andres Segovia (when Im not working on the car, I am ususally playing classical guitar)
|
|
|
Stainless1
Global Moderator
Hero Member
Offline
Age: 62
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 4435
Robert W. P. "Stainless" Steele Wichita, Kansas
|
|
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 10:05:42 AM » |
|
Hey Jnuts, you won't be able to see all the polishing under the header wrap...  I like the header, makes me rethink my future I and J turbo plans |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Stainless
MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
|
|
|
|
