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Author Topic: New Liner Build, Fresno, CA  (Read 41960 times)
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« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2012, 02:44:44 PM »

Next year Speedweek is the goal now. I would like to shake down/ test at El Mirage by May of next year.
If you are in Fresno, your sure welcome to come  by for a cold one.

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« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2012, 06:24:57 PM »

Hi Brad

Very nice looking racer, what will you be using for your engine package ?

Thanks, Don
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« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2012, 10:13:39 PM »

Hi Brad

Very nice looking racer, what will you be using for your engine package ?

Thanks, Don

First up is an H motor. Turbo Suzuki Hyabusa 1300cc. H/BFS. Probably the hardest class to try for a record in. Rick Yacoucci (Nebolous Theorem ll) has the bar set really high. 324 mph +. Check out this site www.yacoucci.com/
However, this is where I am starting. It will be a real good test for the car before we step up the program. This car is being built to accept larger motors and that's where we are going with it in time.

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« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2012, 03:51:30 AM »

Hi Brad

What kind of power does it take in a liner to go 325 ?

Thanks , Don
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« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2012, 08:56:06 AM »

Hi Brad

What kind of power does it take in a liner to go 325 ?

Thanks , Don

We are looking for 550-600 hp.
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« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2012, 05:06:49 PM »

Reached another milestone!!! cheers The skin is now complete and ready for finish body work. I just finished fabricating and attaching the last two flat body panels at the back of the car. They are easly removeable to allow access to the fuel tank, batteries/electrical and anything else we can cram into the space below the chute tubes. Now we can focus on building the vertical tail and installing the rear axel assembly. After that we will install the mock up motor so we can fit the turbo and all that other good stuff. 
Thanksgiving day this year will mark the third year of this build. We are all very pleased with the progress we have made to date. This thing is finally looking like a car!
 
Back to El Mirage July 14th and 15th with the Nebulous Theroem lll. Yacoucci got the fresh motor in. After ElMo the next stop is Bonneville
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« Reply #66 on: July 06, 2012, 08:46:02 AM »

Looking good guys!  I was with Ron Jolliffe when he pre-teched your car this winter.  See you on the Salt!

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« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2012, 10:25:13 PM »

Thanks Pete.

We got the rear axel mounts and bearing assemblies installed and squared up today. Now I am ready to start machining the rear wheel hubs, sprocket and brake rotor hubs.
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« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2012, 11:14:43 PM »

... chain drive???... shocked
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« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2012, 06:37:13 PM »

... chain drive???... shocked

Yes. We are considering two chains side by side and close together.
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« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2012, 07:47:19 PM »

In a chain drive system, does it take more hp to drive two of them other than one or is a belt drive even better???
I dont have the answers, just the questions.
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« Reply #71 on: July 09, 2012, 08:06:23 PM »

Chain drive is about 90-92% efficient, the Gates HTD design belt drive is 98+% efficient. So if your rice burner bike motor is making 600 hps you are throwing about 40+ hps away. Every wonder why chains get hot?

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« Reply #72 on: July 09, 2012, 11:42:17 PM »

Looks like Rex has the answers.
My next question would be, is it any advantage to run a larger set of sprockets to get a given ratio than a smaller set, Rex?
 I've always looked at the drive sprocket on bikes & figured it must suck some power to twist that chain around that little sucker.
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« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2012, 02:15:17 AM »

Looks like Rex has the answers.
My next question would be, is it any advantage to run a larger set of sprockets to get a given ratio than a smaller set, Rex?
 I've always looked at the drive sprocket on bikes & figured it must suck some power to twist that chain around that little sucker.
   Sid.
It sure wood be nice if there were a way to run a much larger front sprocket, but we are limited because of the clutch pusher rod on the Busa motor.
Regarding the belt drive; It sounds like a good idea but I would be curious to know how it would hold up. I am a fellow Miler member along with Sam Wheeler and I want to talk to him about that. I understand he is going to run a belt on his Easy Hook motorcycle liner. I am sure he has researched it well. I am really open to ideas here.
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« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2012, 08:06:57 AM »

I would expect you would have to move out away from the case with a short shaft & support bearing to run a belt drive. If you wanted to run a bigger chain & sprocket setup, the same would apply.
I seriously doubt that reliability would be an issue with the appropriate size belt.
There is a bunch of that stuff for Harleys on the market, but I'm not in that playing field.
With small engine classes in any motor sport, you need to go after everything you can get.
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