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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #585 on: April 02, 2013, 08:43:10 PM »
I really like this pair of builds!  Thanks for posting both of them. I would lower the front even more. The back too. Use some 2 x 6 to make ramps with about 2 feet (or what's need) of level space before the next layer of 2 x to allow the tire to get up just before the spoiler reaches the next level. Use these in the pits to et up to jack height. Keep the front wheel as covered by the fender as possible. No steering needed past 10 degrees. Use a dolly to tow the car and provide the steering. Use the rear axle off a K car or caravan to make one.  Use the same wheels as on the Rampage.

Great idea with the diesel mix. This is making me think...  hmmm

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #586 on: April 02, 2013, 08:56:12 PM »
If it a fireproof issue, what about one of the shift boots they use on Stock cars? Simpson and several others make them. They might be able to help design or modify a boot to suit what you are trying to do.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #587 on: April 02, 2013, 10:28:38 PM »
I agree. Look up shifter or pedal boots, probably
some used ones on Racing Junk. I got mine from
Muscle Motorsports in Huntersville, NC. $15 used
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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #588 on: April 03, 2013, 05:47:21 AM »
If it a fireproof issue, what about one of the shift boots they use on Stock cars? Simpson and several others make them. They might be able to help design or modify a boot to suit what you are trying to do.
I agree. Look up shifter or pedal boots, probably
some used ones on Racing Junk. I got mine from
Muscle Motorsports in Huntersville, NC. $15 used

AJR and Luke, thanks for the tip for Steve and me. I just did a google and saw that Speedway has this on eBay. Is this what you are talking about?


This pic is from my truck and is the plastic "bucket" Steve was talking about.



And this pic is from Steve's truck with the "bucket" removed and the hole that needs to be covered.



Could we just plate around the steering shaft and then use the fireproof shifter boot?
Many thanks to everyone for the input on this. This is why I like this forum so much!!!!!   :cheers:

Gregg


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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #589 on: April 03, 2013, 06:13:49 AM »
Just had another thought on this after my previous post.   :-o
Could we weld a patch panel/plate around the steering shaft where it meets the floor and then bolt that to the floor using 3M Fireblock in between?
Here is a link to 3M for what I'm talking about:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/fire-protection-systems-NA/firestop/firestopping-products/product-catalog/?PC_7_U00M8B1A0OP590IB369UJT2FR7000000_nid=15L6FSM7GVbeTGS9R7QM25gl
That way the steering shaft would be removable and it would also be fireproof and would not need the shifter boot.



Just found this fireproof collar that might be helpful.....Opinions?
http://www.stifirestop.com/products/product-selector/lcc-intumescent-firestop-collars/

Gregg

EDITED to remove needless babble and added 3M link
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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #590 on: April 03, 2013, 08:24:14 AM »
Maybe look at http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/eyeballfw1.php?clickkey=207143 as a possibility.  It doesn't look like it would be large enough for your application but might give you some ideas.  Or search Aircraft Spruce for "firewall"

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #591 on: April 03, 2013, 08:30:27 AM »
Looks like the boot should do fine, That fire seal collar may not hold up the the twisting of the steering shaft.
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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #592 on: April 03, 2013, 08:39:19 AM »
Maybe look at http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/eyeballfw1.php?clickkey=207143 as a possibility.  It doesn't look like it would be large enough for your application but might give you some ideas.  Or search Aircraft Spruce for "firewall"

Roy

Roy, Good tip. Now if we can just find something larger.

Gregg

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #593 on: April 03, 2013, 08:42:37 AM »
Looks like the boot should do fine, That fire seal collar may not hold up the the twisting of the steering shaft.

Frank, Thanks for the thumbsup on the boot. Also, to clarify, the steering shaft goes into the column and that is what goes through the firewall. The column does not move.

Gregg

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #594 on: April 03, 2013, 08:52:48 AM »
OK - my vision for the morning is to re-create the general design of the plastic bucket, but use something like a super-heavy duty coffee can design, with a plate mounted "misalignment" bearing attached to the closed end of the can.

I might have to buy a 3" exhaust coupling to form the tubular portion of the can, weld some sheetmetal across one end, then buy a bearing like this... 

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Firewall-Mount-Flanged-Bearing-for-Steering-Shaft,2044.html


from Speedway or some other such vendor.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #595 on: April 03, 2013, 08:58:08 AM »
Steve, That sounds like that would work. I was just trying to get away from the original design, hence the patch panel / plate suggestion at the floor.

Gregg

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #596 on: April 03, 2013, 09:04:40 AM »
I agree. Look up shifter or pedal boots, probably
some used ones on Racing Junk. I got mine from
Muscle Motorsports in Huntersville, NC. $15 used

SteveM

I got my shifter boot used from Roush-Yates they have a used shifter boot for $37  http://www.roushyatesparts.com/Used-Racing-Safety-Equipment-s/595.htm

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #597 on: April 03, 2013, 09:28:45 AM »
If I was going to go with the shift boot, I think I would by 2. I'd test one with an open flame, and see how long before there is a breach.

Remember, if there is an engine fire, any hole in the firewall will be like a blow torch.JMHO
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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #598 on: April 03, 2013, 02:54:43 PM »
FYI update - I just received a pair of reman axle shafts for a '79 Horizon (purchased on eBay for $20 each).  They should be the correct length, but the outer CV's may need to be changed.

Anyway, they were packed in a couple of dusty boxes, and protected with wadded up newspaper, from August 30, 1990.  I guess these have been sitting on a shelf for the last 23 years.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #599 on: April 03, 2013, 04:11:48 PM »
Don't you just love eBay and the surprises they bring?   :-D
My headlight covers were new but in old ratty dusty waterstained boxes.   :-o

Gregg