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Offline SteveM

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1455 on: September 26, 2016, 10:55:24 AM »
It's definitely a good looking package.  Even in stock configuration, Mercedes Benz likes their stuff to look nice under the hood.

This one is definitely NOT stock!

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1456 on: September 26, 2016, 11:23:21 AM »
Steve, what size is the one in the box?

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1457 on: September 26, 2016, 03:16:27 PM »
It's just under 2 liters, intended for G/DT class.

Combination of a 2.2L block, sleeved for smaller pistons, and a somewhat rare 2.0L crankshaft. (Never available in the USA).  Weirdo European parts.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1458 on: September 26, 2016, 08:28:34 PM »
What turbo size did the builder end up settling on? 400hp sounds fantastic!

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1459 on: September 27, 2016, 08:39:45 AM »
Petter Lonning is the turbo guy's name.  He's a Norwegian turbo guru. 

Turbo for the 2 liter is a Holset HE351 with a custom HX35-12cm turbine housing (non-wastegate).

Ultimately, he would like me to run compound turbos, but I told him I wanted to start out simple and conservative.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1460 on: September 27, 2016, 12:46:16 PM »
Very nice, those are solid 65 lb/min turbos. I have ran several on different vehicles.

While that turbo may be laggy as a single, drive pressures will be way down vs a compound setup. Salty DOG racing had a compound setup on their Cummins lsr truck and ended up having significant drive pressure and get issues. Swapped a large single on, and stopped having issues, gained a couple hundred hp due to lower pumping losses and better tuning, and are now reliable. So, good choice.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1461 on: September 27, 2016, 02:25:25 PM »
Thanks for the affirmation!  I don't know much about turbo selection, but I have faith in those who know what they are talking about.

If I can get this setup to be reliable, that would save a lot of wear and tear on my wallet.

Salty Dog - is that the white Dakota LSR truck?

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1462 on: September 27, 2016, 10:22:51 PM »
No, white 09 full-size dodge.
Greenspeed is the s10 with Cummins power.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1463 on: September 28, 2016, 09:45:39 AM »
I think Salty Box is Tim Boyle's full sized truck.

There is also a white Dakota (early '90's model).  They race as "STD Racing" - I thought maybe that was Salty Dog?

I'm familiar with the Greenspeed truck as well.

Salty Dog is the one that I'm not familiar with.

In any event - the simplicity of a big single turbo setup sounds reassuring.


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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1464 on: September 28, 2016, 03:36:25 PM »
I think we've seen enough ugliness on my build thread for a while.  How about something beautiful?

....like maybe 400 ponies in a box....



Holy crap!
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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1465 on: September 28, 2016, 08:39:22 PM »
You are right on the salty box thing. I mixed it up with a drinking establishment I have visited before. Oops

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1466 on: September 29, 2016, 07:39:19 AM »
You are right on the salty box thing. I mixed it up with a drinking establishment I have visited before. Oops

There are a lot of "Salty" names associated with the LSR crowd, that's for sure.  Big Tim's big white Dodge is certainly impressive, as is his team's entire effort.  The stuff that comes out of his shop is inspiring.

Meanwhile, back in my humble abode, I spent some time cleaning up the "Salty Frog" garage and playing around with the limits of suspension lowering.  Without extensive modification, I think this is about as low as I'd ever be able to go.  At this point, the front suspension crossmemeber is about 1/4" from the floor.  If I got really creative, I might be able to modify the crossmember mounting points to gain another 3/4" inch or so until "Everything" hits.



This setup is not really practical, but a fun exercise, nonetheless....



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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1467 on: October 01, 2016, 08:48:11 PM »
Big Tim is good Subaru. Helped me a ton

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1468 on: November 10, 2016, 11:23:18 AM »
Quick update for those interested....

If you are buying an engine from outside the US and want to import it legally, be prepared to go through some governmental type Red Tape.

Until recently, I would not have guessed that I would be on a first-name basis with anyone at the United States Environmental Protection Agency.  However, through the process of importing this Mercedes OM604 engine, that's exactly what has happened.

Yes, it's a hassle, but I did everything "by the book", 100% legally, and won't have to worry about the Feds ever coming after me for having a non-compliant engine.

The engine is not yet in my hands, but has cleared customs.

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Re: '84 Dodge Rampage Build Thread
« Reply #1469 on: November 11, 2016, 10:20:30 AM »
Just an FYI:

Here is a pic of the file folder containing all the documents (copies of emails, customs forms, declarations, certified statements and EPA guidelines) related to importing a Non-US-spec engine into the USA for competition purposes.  Proceed at your discretion:



All the hassle will be worth the effort when I'm on the salt next summer.

Steve.



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