Limit on Entries

[relaxedphit]

Was 150 an ECTA record for entries? Maybe it was because we were in a smaller pit area in '07-09; but before the economic crunch, driver's meetings looked about the same size. The resolution to limited entries is apparently something most other venues have had to struggle with and our leaders may well have been involved in many of them. This resolution will be interesting and how might it impact year end awards. Spectator revenue increases should certainly go up but their accomodation cost will rise. I hope the Turks and Timneys have time to work in a Holiday season with this incredible task of moving and restructuring. Good Luck

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Well, for sure the drivers meeting at the October 2011 meet was less-attended than it could have been.  remember, Milwaukee Midget was in the pits and making hellacious noises with his engine - when he SHOULD have been at the meeting.  We all learned something from that:  If you're planning on skipping the drivers meeting (not a good idea at any time), for sure don't blip the throttle of your unmuffled race engine during the meeting.  It only announces that you are not in attendance.

Over to you, Chris

[Glen]

Just a heads up to everyone. SCTA/BNI has been doing this for over 60 years. The lakes and Bonneville are old hat to us. When we went to Muroc everything changed as the venue was totally different. We had to make adjustments and volunteer positions etc. The USAF worked with us but watched every move and followed us to assure we didn't stray.

As ECTA is going to a new venue it will be the same deal. It's all new, the property owners will watch everything and probably ask for changes. Every racer and crew member should be at the drivers meeting and do the course drive down so you know where to go. The first day is always a bitch for all. Cooperate with ECTA officials and the people loaning us a place to race. Like they say first impressions are forever. Trash, if you haul it in you take it out. Oil should be put into your own containers as well and taken home. One other thing, help ECTA with the track tear down and clean up before you go home.

This will be a big learning curve for all sides. Have fun, go fast and be safe.
 

[Cajun Kid]

Math ?  OK let's have a crack at it.

Base assumptions

150 Entries
  40 Runs per hour
    0 Major delays  (Ohio will have a second lane to switch to, in case of big problem)
  14  Hours Total Run time. Saturday 9:30 to 6:00 with 30 min lunch break = 8 hours
                                           Sunday    8:00 to 2:00 = 6 hours

14x40=560 Total Runs
560 / 150 = 3.73 Runs per entry
(this may equate to 4 + runs per bike and only  3 per car)

Hmm, I am going to make gear changes and pack the chute in the staging lanes, no going to the pits between my 3 runs, maybe 4

I feel with a 60% bike 40% car ratio and the excellent staff at the ECTA we can sure strive to average more than 40 runs per hour... maybe as many as 50 runs per hour.
By averaging 50 runs per hour the math goes from 3.73 runs per entry up to 4.66

I am not going to sweat the details,, I am just going to show up, help as best I can and race...

See ya in Ohio

Charles


                                              

[redcatch]

Charles that is the attitude. Make sure your ready , if not have people pass you . Coroperate and graduate. For Sure Wilmington will be different and it will not be the same as Maxton. It will be alot better. Just the fact that there are not two turns. a oh crap bump at 5/8 of a mile and a obstacle course makes me really happy. The fact that we can really get serious about aerodynamics without tearing the bottom of the car off and I won't get back to the pits with rocks the size of softballs wedged between the pan and transmission. Its all good.  I can't wait.

[Joe Timney]

Charles, thank you for the math lesson. As things progress, we will post all Ohio updates on the ECTA website.

Keith & I will be out there next week to workout more details of the operation of the event. So many details...so little time!!!
 

[Milwaukee Midget]

Well, for sure the drivers meeting at the October 2011 meet was less-attended than it could have been.  remember, Milwaukee Midget was in the pits and making hellacious noises with his engine - when he SHOULD have been at the meeting.  
Over to you, Chris

The single most important lesson I learned that weekend.

Well, that, and if you're late to the meeting, the coffee runs out . . .

Seriously, the first time anything happens at a new venue, there will be snags - if you go in expecting them, then you're either right or pleasantly surprised.

[ronnieroadster]

Charles outstanding math.
    I should have listened to my high school math teacher he told me some day I was going to need this stuff LOL.
 Seems to me a cap of 150 vehicles would make the first events manageable until the bugs if any are worked out. BUT knowing the gear head capital of the country is Ohio I bet its going to get really crowded as the word gets out to those gear heads. Now that's not a bad thing just saying the cap might have to be raised as time goes on.
 Ron
 

[sabat]

Sorry to be an Eeyore, but that math only works if the rescue truck shows up on time, the computers are working, the printer is working, the weather is clear, and no one breaks anything and oils down the course. 

[roadracer]

Sorry to be an Eeyore, but that math only works if the rescue truck shows up on time, the computers are working, the printer is working, the weather is clear, and no one breaks anything and oils down the course. 

150 entries is a lot and I'm sure the interest that is being generated in Ohio will bring in a lot of new racers.  I know the Maine event at Loring was very crowded last year and Saturday was a 3 run day if you were in line early in the AM.  Not sure what the event total was there.  I like the 120 entry cap a little better, but I'm game for whatever it ends up being.  It would be nice to offer a predetermined amount of slots to ECTA regulars.  Another amount to 1st time entrants.  If the 1st timers doesn't fill up by a certain date, offer them to anyone.  I'm sure the ECTA will do a good job of getting it sorted.  I am like the rest and want as many runs as I can get.  I know I was spoiled at Maxton.

[relaxedphit]

Greg, you won't have too worry. Not that many folks want to get up at 4:00am to put their bikes in pre-stage. Not much room for run for fun (which I know pleases many) unless you show up with a 'Busa and a bunch of stickers -- still won't work for but one meet.

[Warp12]

Greg, you won't have too worry. Not that many folks want to get up at 4:00am to put their bikes in pre-stage. Not much room for run for fun (which I know pleases many) unless you show up with a 'Busa and a bunch of stickers -- still won't work for but one meet.

I'm out to get Greg's spot in line....

Shane

[wobblywalrus]

The organizers could say on the application that they have the right to limit the number of runs a person could make in a specified time.  As an example, during the busy periods a person would be allowed only one run every four hours.  This might work better than limiting the entries.

[javajoe79]

 I know there are mixed feeling on this but what about the people who come out and run cars that can't even tech over 135mph? Everyone knows they can run faster and do but slow down for the lights. What about a 1 run only for cars like that or a just plain race cars only rule. If you can't tech to the record in your class, you can't run at all.

[LittleLiner]

I know there are mixed feeling on this but what about the people who come out and run cars that can't even tech over 135mph? Everyone knows they can run faster and do but slow down for the lights. What about a 1 run only for cars like that or a just plain race cars only rule. If you can't tech to the record in your class, you can't run at all.

Better yet . . . limit entries to only AA/BFS.  That will keep out all those pesky "cars that can't even tech over 135mph?"