2012 SCTA Rules CHANGES

[grumm441]

I'm looking at 3M and it reads
"Vehicles that exceed 300 MPH shall be equipped with two (2) independent parachute systems"
I would have thought it should read
where the class record exceeds 300 mph, vehicles shall be equipped with two (2) independent parachute systems"
G

[dw230]

Rich,

Bottom of page 64 in your 2011 rulebook.

The addition of Foreign cars in the Classic Category is a test only. Note the part where the foreign cars are not allowed to compete for El Mirage points. The F engine class limit includes every displacement from K(0 cid)up to F(183.9 cid). The new rule for 2011, bottom of page 15 in your 2011 rulebook,allows engines with a smaller cid to run against larger engines if the break is not available to your class.

From 2011 rule book with updated records:

ENGINE CLASS BREAK
Omega Engines using a thermodynamic cycle other than Otto
Cubic Inch         Liter Equiv.
AA   501.00 cid and over      8.210 liters and over
A   440.00 to 500.99 cid   7.210 to 8.209 L
B   373.00 to 439.99 cid   6.112 to 7.209 L
C   306.00 to 372.99 cid   5.015 to 6.111 L
D   261.00 to 305.99 cid   4.277 to 5.014 L
E   184.00 to 260.99 cid   3.015 to 4.276 L
F   123.00 to 183.99 cid   2.016 to 3.014 L
G     93.00 to 122.99 cid   1.524 to 2.015 L
H     62.00 to  92.99 cid   1     .016 to 1.523 L
I     46.00 to  61.99 cid   0     .754 to 1.015 L
J     31.00 to  45.99 cid   0     .508 to 0.753 L
K         up to  30.99 cid   0     .507 L and under

In classes where not all engine breaks are available, the smallest displacement class allowed is open to all engine displacements that fall within it and below it.

SECTION 6
BONNEVILLE  NATIONAL CAR RECORDS
Classes with no listed record are considered as open.

6.C  Classic Category
Classic Blown Fuel Altered - /CBFALT
F   The Hudson Boys      S. Carlson      08/11   129.641
Classic Unblown Fuel Altered - /CFALT
F   Cohn Jucewic Monza   B. Jucewic   08/11   165.224
Classic Blown Gas Altered - /CBGALT
F   The Hudson Boys      S. Carlson      08/11   123.782
Classic Unblown Gas Altered - /CGALT    
F   Cohn Jucewic Monza   B. Jucewic   08/11   182.357
Classic Blown Gas Coupe - /CBGC
F   Clean Air Corvair      T. Keosababian   08/74   173.090
Classic Unblown Gas Coupe - /CGC
F      Cohn Jucewic Monza   B. Jucewic   08/11   174.922
Classic Production - /CPRO 
F   OPEN      
Classic Production Supercharged - /CPS     
F   Not Available

SECTION 10
EL MIRAGE CAR RECORDS
Classes without a listed record have an established minimum record speed.
Established minimum record speeds are in the current revision of the El Mirage Procedures that are available at the SCTA trailer or at www.scta-bni.org


10.C  Classic Category
Classic Blown Fuel Altered Coupe - /CBFALT
F   Minimum
Classic Unblown Fuel Altered Coupe - /CFALT
F   Minimum
Classic Blown Gas Altered Coupe - /CBGALT
F   Minimum
Classic Unblown Gas Altered Coupe - /CGALT
F   Minimum
Classic Blown Gas Coupe - /CBGC 
F   Minimum
Classic Unblown Gas Coupe - /CGC   
F   Minimum
Classic Production Coupe & Sedan - /CPRO 
F   Minimum
Classic Production Supercharged - /CPS   
F   Not Available


DW

[Milwaukee Midget]

Okay, am I reading the rule right?

Rancheros and El Caminos are permitted, despite not having seating for 4?

So might this class be open to Ranchero type utes, such as a Morris Minor Pickup with a 1 litre, and run I class?

[dw230]

Please post exactly which rule you are referring to Chris. Certainly you don't mean the F engine class/foregin cars in Classic Category.

DW

[Milwaukee Midget]

5.C 3rd pp, last sentence.  Clarification, please - this change only applies to F class engines, or does it extend the range of engine sizes in the class down, with F being the high end of the displacement in the category?

Dan, thanks again - you have the patience of a saint.

[Milwaukee Midget]

As I read the rule book there are no engine classes below "F" in Classic Category. Therefore it seems very clear that foreign sedans are limited to "F" engine class only.

Sorry, Dan, Rich answered my question.

[dw230]

Man, I need to open another bottle! Another hearty red, save the Pinot Noir for the turkey tomorrow.

I, in no way see where the F engine class and foreign cars related to El Caminos, etc.

DW

[Milwaukee Midget]

Man, I need to open another bottle!

Okay, I'll put that on the shopping list for when I see you in September.

Page 62, but it appears that the point is moot.

 

[RichFox]

Man, I need to open another bottle! Another hearty red, save the Pinot Noir for the turkey tomorrow.

I, in no way see where the F engine class and foreign cars related to El Caminos, etc.

DW

Dan; He wants to run an "I" engine in "F" class in an Austrailian Ute. Which is sorta like a Rancharo. And I want to run it with raised ports.

[jl222]

 
   Dan... 2 buck Chuck is pretty good $24 a case at Trader Joe's

              JL222

[dw230]

Rich,
"He wants to run an "I" engine in "F" class in an Austrailian Ute. Which is sorta like a Rancharo. And I want to run it with raised ports."

I still cannot make the connection between now allowing El Caminos, Rancheros. It has been told to many people that the Ute can run in coupe classes, raised port heads are legal as mentioned before. Adding ports is not.

Trader Joes - where else can you take a $5 bill, get two bottles of an OK wine and change?

DW

[Milwaukee Midget]

So everything from 183.99 on down runs in F class, opening it up to cars like the MGC-GT, the 2.8 Capri, a boatload of Porsches that don't qualify under GT because of jump seats, a smattering of BMW's, 280Z 2+2's. 

Sounds like it mirrors the early IMSA GTU/ SCCA 2.5 list for eligibility.


 

[RichFox]

Dan; If you are taking any of this seriously. Kick back with that vino and have a good Thanksgiving.  RF

[dw230]

Chris - you are correct sir!

Rich,

Dean of LA said it best "Its not life and death, its RACING!"

DW

[desotoman]

Trader Joes - where else can you take a $5 bill, get two bottles of an OK wine and change?

DW

   Dan... 2 buck Chuck is pretty good $24 a case at Trader Joe's

              JL222

Sounds like a hangover to me. LOL I won't buy anything cheaper at Trader Joe's than their own brand wine which is $4 a bottle. Maybe that is why I am not racing, I have a bigger budget for wine than the race cars, but don't have hangovers. LOL.

Maybe I can get Trader Joe's to sponsor me and then I can give out free samples after the races. Ha Ha Ha.

Tom G.