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Offline wobblywalrus

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2011, 12:18:08 AM »
A BMW boxer twin clutch and trans are very small.

Offline Hans Blom

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2011, 06:23:38 AM »
Yeah, I was looking at the drawings of a Super T10 and thought the reverse gear splines and the output looked the same. I assume the shaft is hardened the same the entire length so those splines are as strong as the output. As it's been done, I guess it's strong enough... The only thing is that on the T101 , at least on the ones i have seen the dont have the reverse splines and it looks as though the shaft necks down so you can't just re-spline...I would like to use the T101 so I have the option of a overdirve gear in the 3rd gear position....Anybody know if a normal GM Super T10 output shaft will bolt in a T101, so I could just cut down, make a rear plate and have OD options?

Offline jacksoni

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2011, 08:34:21 AM »
The thing I remember most about the Kelly & Hall lakester was that Jack used a regular 4-speed (Hurst?) shifter with solid cables, not one of those 2-handled things that others have devised because of I-can't-understand reasons (no offense, really).  Told me it was precise and reliable.
On my streamliner, driver in front of engine, I used a T-10 and a Hurst 4 speed shifter with rods about 4 ft long, 3/4" tube with heim ends welded in with some threads one end for adjusting. Shifter on my left side and way I had it set up, pattern was backwards but it shifted well and was pretty fool proof/solid. No cables.
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Offline RichFox

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2011, 09:23:04 AM »
That's where I got the picture. Pretty interesting transmission for a rear engine car.

Offline johnneilson

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2011, 10:10:21 AM »
The Porsche 930 turbo trans works very well behind Detroit Iron also.
The best part is that this is a known conversion. The added benefit is the ratios available and change out is completely from the rear, motor and trans in place.

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Offline Tman

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2011, 10:30:45 AM »
That's where I got the picture. Pretty interesting transmission for a rear engine car.

Ah, that explains it.

Offline jimmy six

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2011, 05:26:23 PM »
I went 216 with high gear only with my GMC....Why go you need all those gears?


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Offline Stan Back

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 05:47:12 PM »
Shorter stroke?
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Offline Tman

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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 06:55:39 PM »
I went 216 with high gear only with my GMC....Why go you need all those gears?





Tom and I discussed this with our Stovebolt. How was yours set up?

Offline bearingburner

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 09:21:38 PM »
In the '60s Chassis Research made an adapter to eliminate the tail shaft on a Chevy 3 speed and mate it to a Ford torque tube. Used the Ford U joint with a new output shaft.This gave a short stronger transmission for dragsters.

Offline jimmy six

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 10:50:10 PM »
80% in the tank, double disc clutch, 2.56 gear, 32" tire, 1/4 mile push off and gently squeeze the throttle......................Good Luck
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Offline Rex Schimmer

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2011, 01:04:46 AM »
Jimmy,
I can still remember that run, I was at the starting line when you pushed off! Your kids had just set the record the day before and broke the tranny so they let the old man try it with high gear only. I'll bet they never thought you would do it.

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Offline JimL

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2011, 01:32:26 AM »
If low cost is necessary, any of the small 4WD transmissions has a short spline on the back of the trans.  The old 4-speeds had no gears of any kind behind the back of the case.  Some of them have very close 3rd-4th, also, because of early fed emissions testing methods (79-80 sideshift Hilux for example, which has the shifter on the right side, not out of the top).

Offline jacksoni

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Re: Short manual transmissions...?
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2011, 07:41:43 AM »
How about a Corvair transaxle? The old kits to put a SBC in back seat?  We had a fairly healthy SBC in a Valkyrie kit car, autocrossing it with big roadracing slicks and had no trouble with the transaxle. Don't know the gears but I think is strong enough for the salt with narrow tires. Trouble getting them or parts these days perhaps.
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