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Offline blackslax

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THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« on: October 18, 2011, 05:12:39 AM »
It has been brought to our attention by several outside parties that our tag line "the future of land speed" is considered by many to be highly offensive, arrogant, and belittling to the long and storied history of LSR around the nation.  It has conveyed to me that the 60 year history of Bonneville, Muroc, El Mirage, ECTA are all a thing of the past and all of the literally hundreds of thousands of hour of nurturing and developing the LSR community (the best bunch of people I have ever met) has been cast asunder and that our brash statement is an affront to countless LSR racers. (I had a long time racer tell me he won't buy a 2-club shirt because the tag line is on it.)

The best response I can give to all of you is that it is a tag line is as my salesman says, "sell the sizzle, not the steak."

We are therefore asking for your input on the matter.  Logical input please. Not a Pi$$ing contest.

Here are some of my ideas:
LTA - Wide and Flat just like Tim Kelly's A$$   :-D
LTA - Speedtown USA   
LTA-Go like Stink
LTA-Got Land Speed?
LTA- We apologize for being so fast.
LTA- Speed and Moose live here.
LTA-Don't worry,be happy - You'll got faster (or blow up trying)   :cry:
LTA-  The best piece of A$$-palt I ever had.

Now I realize that some of these are a bit tongue and cheek, but we are here for you, and we want you happy.

You input and ideas are greatly appreciated.

All the best.
($5 says Charles V chimes in first.)

« Last Edit: October 18, 2011, 05:23:04 AM by blackslax »
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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 05:28:24 AM »
I'll play- you owe me $5! :evil:
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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 05:54:13 AM »
I'll play- you owe me $5! :evil:
Send you address and I'll send you a pair of our highly prized LTA bumper stickers.  (In kind is so much easier to hide from the tax man) or stop by reg in July.
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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 06:18:16 AM »
How about "wicked Fast"?
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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 06:20:08 AM »
How about "wicked Fast"?
Please not so funny so soon. My back surgery just howls when I laugh that hard

in the nature of a collaborative effort:
"wicked fast chummy"  
or "wicked fast mista man"
« Last Edit: October 18, 2011, 06:22:50 AM by blackslax »
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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 06:37:51 AM »
LTA - Top Speed Racing

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 06:51:52 AM »
I'll play- you owe me $5! :evil:
Send you address and I'll send you a pair of our highly prized LTA bumper stickers.  (In kind is so much easier to hide from the tax man) or stop by reg in July.

Haha! It's all good- I just couldn't resist!

I guess I don't see it as belittling to the 60 year history of Bonneville, Muroc, El Mirage, or the ECTA. That history is there, and you can never undo it, let alone by the use of a tagline phrase. Racers will continue to use the old, historic venues, as long as they are available to use.

Of course, I'm new to all of this, and don't pretend to speak for the masses!

Muroc is already gone, and the salt dwindles every year. Hopefully, Save the Salt, and a push by the users can help maintain at least the status quo at Bonneville, but who knows what the next 20 years will bring?

I just hope your tagline isn't prophetic, and remains just a sales pitch to sell interest in LTA!
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 07:03:08 AM »
Wide, Flat, and Wicked Fast.

And while I'm at it - bring back the black [don't show the grease marks as bad while wrenchin'] event hats with a Moose logo.

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 11:03:22 AM »
Tim, I dont find it at all offensive. Good salesmanship! As was said who knows what the future has in store for us.

I am a hard core Bonneville racer. But I spectated at your event this year. I had a great time, saw history made, 311+ on a sit on bike. I will be there, with two bikes, racing next year.

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 11:08:19 AM »
I like "The Future of Land Speed" but if we are going to have to hold hands and sing kumbya I would go with:LTA- Speed and Moose live here

Or perhaps:

LTA-dont pee in the grass it might fertalize some eggs
LTA-Dont mind the animals with 6 legs, 3 eyes and 2 tails

Oh, can we get some black shirts?  :-D

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 11:28:42 AM »
My only concern with ANY promotional campaign that declares "the future", is that they're invariably jinxed.

The Corvair was the "Car of the Future".

The RCA Quasar was "The Television of Tomorrow".

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and nuclear power was going to be so cheap that they wouldn't have to meter it.

To heck with the offense some wags might be taking, I say lose that tag line before you do any real damage.  :wink:
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 12:20:12 PM »
No future, eh?  Ok, how about "Not your father's (?grandfather's?) Land Speed Racing"?

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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 12:26:24 PM »
May I come up there and webcast your races for Slim?
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Re: THE LTA NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 12:29:13 PM »
how about:

LTA- Let your moose loose!!

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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 02:42:04 PM »
Sure, Max -- but head there knowing that Nancy and I have yet to make our inaugural appearance at Loring.  As always I say -- maybe next year.  Our common problem is timing -- in July we're preparing to leave the laser engraving store for a few months, off and on, and we use all the time just preceding that to catch up on everything we can do.  But still -- maybe 2012.  I'm sure the audio would be welcome.

By the way, I've just attempted to contact a potential sponsor for the audio casts.  I'll tell you off-line who that is -- and apologise hre to the rest of you that want to know some of the machinations of running this fine website.
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