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Offline Stan Back

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2011, 12:38:34 PM »
Lucky for us, most of their "signatures" are longer than their messages.
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2011, 01:11:47 AM »
"...a record claimed by a corporation with no oversight or authority."...

Do you really believe that the establishment of an "authority" to oversee these events will actualy do away with claims as mentioned in the quote above?

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2011, 06:21:21 AM »

My guess is that the SCTA would not move from California let alone set up a 'division' across the pond to the mother country.  Their rules are used in Australia however and I was told the Aussie tech officials have been to the US meets for training.


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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2011, 01:10:01 PM »
The lesson plan is posted on the wall within the White Goose Bar.

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2011, 04:34:00 PM »
I see. Now I understand what Wayno was talking about :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2011, 07:20:03 PM »
Ah, and a special category for thrust vehicles? 

Not propellers though.
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2011, 08:05:04 PM »
Why not propellers? ... not that much different from thrust power ... both are propelled by forced air ... What about the rocket sled?

631.94 mph-   Rocket sled Holloman Air Force Base (USA) 10 December 1954 Manned by John Stapp. Fastest manned rocket-sled. Fastest manned rail vehicle. Fastest manned open-cockpit vehicle

6,117.39 mph-  Rocket sled Holloman Air Force Base (USA) October 1982 Unmanned. It blasted a 25-pound payload to a speed of 6119 mph.

there is your fastest land speed vehicle ...

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2011, 08:30:56 PM »
I think the point in this thread and the other one is that it has to be a two average, FIA approved. How does your 6100 MPH record fit in here?

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2011, 09:07:54 PM »
Well, maybe if you measured the speed that the sled was moved from the far end back to the point of beginning and averaged that with the 6100 mph -- maybe that'd qualify for a two-way run :roll:
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2011, 09:27:36 PM »
For the miles, kilos and one point five liles, perhaps just a registry of top speed in a given class, if the hosting club or promoter has certified timing equipment.  It's also possible to have entrants who want to be in the registry make two runs in the same direction for a record.  Then it becomes a matter of measuring engine size for a new record, or not.

Outside Bonneville, Oz and the lakes, people are not used to having engines measured.  The backup run is probably easier to "sell" than a teardown, which makes it a registry of top speeds at given venues rather than recognized "world" records.  

Easier to maintain a registry of top speeds than re-invent the wheel.  If one track is consistently faster than another, then the fastest run at a given track in a given class would be recorded in the registry, send racer a certificate to that effect, and whatever else that may be considered.
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2011, 07:45:05 PM »
"If one track is consistently faster than another, then the fastest run at a given track in a given class would be recorded in the registry,..."

Sounds like the record list in the SCTA rulebook.

Good luck with a certification process at venues other than Bonneville and El Mirage. But, I'm an honest guy.

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2011, 09:55:04 PM »
I seemingly use too much "intellectual flexibility" for my own good.  A registry of top speeds at any track would be a top speed for that track.  I don't think a lot of our British cousins would take the great circle route around the States unless it's in conjunction with a race at Bonneville. 

A recorded one way speed in a registry wouldn't necessarily be a bona fide record, just an historical footnote w/ a cert. to that effect. 

My brother in law has two K boat record certificates from the FINautique based in Monaco from 35 years ago.  Hand painted pictures of the boats and calligraphy all wrapped in a fancy scrolled edge.  Snooty bunch over in the high rent district, but the framed record is very nice to look at.

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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2011, 10:01:20 PM »
If you're not going to measure the engines, what's the point?  :?
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2011, 10:32:07 PM »
That single point is the crux of the problem, of the issue, of the challenge.  It's probably too spendy to bring it past my typing on this thread. 
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Re: National/International Governing Body for Mile & Kilo Venues?
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2011, 06:32:51 PM »
Hello.
My name is Alexander. I am from Russia.
I am writing here, because he asked to write about this event, Mr. OZBooster.

3 years ago we started to organize races at 1 mile. On the territory of Dmitrovsky auto research center.
The event is called Moscow Unlim 500+
Performed seven stages.

Our team is the first time participated in these competitions in May (Turbo Hayabusa). In the autumn we were unable to attend, since the first day was rain, and the second time, when the organizers moved the competition, our motorcycle pilot could not fly to the competition. Since living on the other end of the country.

Competitions are held mostly in cars. In the autumn were very powerful instances of GTR (greater than 1000 h.p.) and Lambo.

The following events are planned in mid-May.

Here, you can see videos, photos and results.
http://www.moscowunlim.ru/
http://dragtimes.info/
This is the forum of the event.
http://dragtimes.info/forum/
In the autumn the participants wanted to come on motorcycles from other countries, but nobody came.

Best regards, Alexander.