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Offline Morpheus

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Bike frame and case ruling
« on: September 18, 2011, 12:00:57 PM »
In the M classes, are aftermarket frames considered "OEM street type frame(s)". The rules state that you may rake the head, mine is 34*, but nothing about stretching the frame 2 inches.

Are aftermarket cases permitted in the M classes, or only A classes?

These questions apply to a H-D bike.

Input and time is appreciated on these questions.... Thanks !
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 01:07:02 PM »
Morpheus, you can search the archives for more on the issue, but after a rule change in, IIRC, 2004, use of S&S cases is restricted to A classes only.
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 01:28:04 PM »
May I assume that the new ruling applies to my S-T-D and Delkron cases also? I realize many S&S cases/engines were used in the majority of so called aftermarket bikes, so the rule change would zero in on that particular make.

What i'm after is a ruling allowing non H-D factory cases in the M class.

Perhaps a email to the committee would be better.

Thanks for your reply.....
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 01:58:41 PM »
do you have a rule book..?..

FIRST PAGE OF M CLASS rules..."the engine shall be from the same
manufacturer as the frame".............

not sure if this helps or not......

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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 02:11:31 PM »
It's "A" class only for Delkron and STD, per what Joe said.  And, if a factory bike uses S&S cases, at least 500 of the model had to be produced to qualify for "M."
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 02:52:54 PM »
Joeea.... well that pretty much covers the frame portion. Yes I "had" a rulebook but  :>(  Friday evening while discussing this subject my girl friend hollers NOT AGAIN !  she picked "something" up off of coffee table and chucks it into fireplace.

:>O ! Oh my... guess what that was morph......  sooo anywho, my Kraft-Tech frame is only good for special construction as are the cases.

Easy as fallin' off a log............     Big THANKS Folks !   Now to order another rulebook  :>)
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 05:01:31 PM »
no worries...there is a surplus of new rule books....and girlfriends....
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 04:41:45 PM »
Quote from: joea on September 18, 2011, 05:01:31 PM
no worries...there is a surplus of new rule books....and girlfriends....

In some cases either ends up costing you more money!
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 06:31:38 PM »
Stay away from narrow minded women  :evil: who will not accept playing second fiddle to an inanimate object :cheers:
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 09:17:20 PM »
Quote from: Morpheus on September 18, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
I "had" a rulebook but  :>(  Friday evening while discussing this subject my girl friend hollers NOT AGAIN !  she picked "something" up off of coffee table and chucks it into fireplace.



Y'all got some BIG problems ahead of you.   :mrgreen:
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 10:02:04 PM »
Consider the costs: new rule book and a Harley or a girlfriend.

The Harley won't change it's mind. It has no mind.

Maybe that makes it the same as a girlfriend.

Harley  1    Girlfriend   0

But, if you are frustrated you can kick the Harley.

Harley   2    Girlfriend  0

The Harley won't care if you ride another Harley.

Harley  3  Girlfriend  0

The Harley doesn't care if you come home at night.

Harley  4    Girlfriend   0

A Harley never invites it's Mom to come visit you.

Harley   5    Girlfriend   0

You can have 2 bags on the rear fender of a Harley.

Harley  6           Girlfriend     Leans the wrong way.

If you have a Harley  7       Girlfriend if you have a Harley   No Score.

A knocking Harley is still cheaper than a knocked up girlfriend.

Seems to me you can always stroke your Harley but not if you have a girlfriend.

You can leave a dead Harley along side the road. A dead girlfriend will be with you forever.

Either a Harley or a girlfriend can keep you broke.

There are fewer consequences with the Harley.

A ruling on a case and a frame is always cheaper than a ruling on a girlfriend.

A dead Harley is less problem than a live Girlfriend.

I hate 'em but the Harley wins.

Willie G,  S & S Cycle, Jon Minonno and Carl Morrow agree with this post.

FREUD



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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 11:30:04 PM »
Quote from: Freud on September 22, 2011, 10:02:04 PM
Consider the costs: new rule book and a Harley or a girlfriend.

The Harley won't change it's mind. It has no mind.

Maybe that makes it the same as a girlfriend.

Harley  1    Girlfriend   0

But, if you are frustrated you can kick the Harley.

Harley   2    Girlfriend  0

The Harley won't care if you ride another Harley.

Harley  3  Girlfriend  0

The Harley doesn't care if you come home at night.

Harley  4    Girlfriend   0

A Harley never invites it's Mom to come visit you.

Harley   5    Girlfriend   0

You can have 2 bags on the rear fender of a Harley.

Harley  6    Girlfriend     Leans the wrong way.

If you have a Harley  7       Girlfriend if you have a Harley   No Score.

A knocking Harley is still cheaper than a knocked up girlfriend.

Seems to me you can always stroke your Harley but not if you have a girlfriend.

You can leave a dead Harley along side the road. A dead girlfriend will be with you forever.

Either a Harley or a girlfriend can keep you broke.

There are fewer consequences with the Harley.

A ruling on a case and a frame is always cheaper than a ruling on a girlfriend.

A dead Harley is less problem than a live Girlfriend.

I hate 'em but the Harley wins.

Willie G,  S & S Cycle, Jon Minonno and Carl Morrow agree with this post.

FREUD





If you feel that way about a Harley, tell us how you feel about a Wheel on a Stick. LOL.

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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2011, 12:02:39 AM »
       just consider the source...




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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2011, 12:44:34 AM »
Yes but the Harley has a constant drip................dunno what is differnet there, just thought I would mention it :-D
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Re: Bike frame and case ruling
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 01:33:51 AM »
Quote from: Freud on September 22, 2011, 10:02:04 PM
Consider the costs: new rule book and a Harley or a girlfriend.

The Harley won't change it's mind. It has no mind.

Maybe that makes it the same as a girlfriend.

Harley  1    Girlfriend   0

But, if you are frustrated you can kick the Harley.

Harley   2    Girlfriend  0

The Harley won't care if you ride another Harley.

Harley  3  Girlfriend  0

The Harley doesn't care if you come home at night.

Harley  4    Girlfriend   0

A Harley never invites it's Mom to come visit you.

Harley   5    Girlfriend   0

You can have 2 bags on the rear fender of a Harley.

Harley  6           Girlfriend     Leans the wrong way.

If you have a Harley  7       Girlfriend if you have a Harley   No Score.

A knocking Harley is still cheaper than a knocked up girlfriend.

Seems to me you can always stroke your Harley but not if you have a girlfriend.

You can leave a dead Harley along side the road. A dead girlfriend will be with you forever.

Either a Harley or a girlfriend can keep you broke.

There are fewer consequences with the Harley.

A ruling on a case and a frame is always cheaper than a ruling on a girlfriend.

A dead Harley is less problem than a live Girlfriend.

I hate 'em but the Harley wins.

Willie G,  S & S Cycle, Jon Minonno and Carl Morrow agree with this post.

FREUD





  Girlfriend says, put some fur around the pipe  and go stick it in the Harley :-o

   Girfriend 1....Harley 1

  Hey, at least its not a 125 :-D

          JL222

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