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« on: August 01, 2011, 11:01:14 PM » |
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A little help is needed on my part..... Awhile back I was reading in the "Builds" section, and there was a short film on a dual
alison aircraft engine streamliner,that "MAY" make a debut,at one or all meets..... now this was last year or so and the short film actually showerd a little trial run, and the owner was thinking that he would trade the aircraft engines,for turbines, because of the maintenance,and repair costs if you hurt one of the allisons......I have tried to find some information on this machine and I am either looking wrongly or it has gone away......So if one of you outstanding people with a good memory or knowledge of this rig can steer me ..I just want to see the progress.................................Thanks Steve
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2011, 03:41:39 AM » |
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I thought they were Merlins
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 04:13:46 AM » |
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it is owned by the landracing.com member who has the green Citroen DS as his avatar......sorry I can't remember the name.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 08:04:50 AM » |
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Dave Cox owns it now. It is no where ready to run.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 10:18:27 PM » |
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Thanks all you guys......I tried to find that article and could not.......They may be merlins,I really dont know.... I know they were V12's,and was hoping to see it this year.....I went to Portland Or. at Swan Island and seen the only surviving ww2 fully functional PT Boat.... PT-658 if you want to see it on You Tube... anyway they had Packard V12 Marine engines,and those (3) were some big mo-diggers.......Thanks for your help...........................SH
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 11:31:58 PM » |
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Dodge! I didn't know that was there http://www.savetheptboatinc.com/. I drive by almost daily. Mike |
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 09:10:55 AM » |
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Are we talking about the twin RR Meteor engine liner that was built in Aus?
I cant remember the guys name, was it Bill Davis??
Something in my over crowded memory recalls it was bought by some one over here.
Sid.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 11:24:10 AM » |
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Naw... they are Packards,and I was put in my place,when I thought they were allisons...they are a very serious bunch of dedicated guys and they are very knowledgeable. I crawled my old hind end down in that engine room and fondled,and groped and rubbed and carassed,and had a serious moment with each one,....There is obe guy close to 90 who gives tours and answers questions.. he served on one in the pacific... right out of highschool,and just barely shaving and on one of those rascals...... he said "Ya grow up real quick"
I cant begin to think like that...... You gotta have big stones to do that... kinda like being a ball turret gunner. anyway a good bunch of guys..... If you ever get to Portland go see it... it's free, well worth it.....Steve
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 11:35:05 AM » |
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My father was a machinist mate on the PT boats, Packard was given a contract to produce the Rolls Royce Merline engine, to increase production during the war. They are the same engine as the RRM, just manufactured here in America to diversify production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_MerlinLarry |
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 02:41:44 PM » |
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The guy who owns Team Obsolete in vintage motorcycle racing is rebuilding a few of them up the Hudson River from NY.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 05:33:08 PM » |
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Glen Davis was the builders name. They were two turbocharged RR Meteors nose to nose mated to Allison automatic transmissions and custom built final drives (4WD). Car was built here in Victoria in the early/mid '90s.
Dave.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 05:52:40 PM » |
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I worked at the shop that did most of the machine work on the engines for the several unlimited hydro's
based in Seattle in the 50's to the 70's.
We did both Allisons and Rolls...The Allison was a far better engine but it took more finesse to make it
go than the Rolls. An Allison held the qualifying record (about 129) for 11 years. Maverick, driven by Bill Stead.
Ricky Iglesis was crew chief. 2 stage centrifugal supercharged running 80 lb boost.
It took a redesign of boat hulls to the pickle boat to beat it.
Fuel/air/water ratio was 1 lb fuel, 4 lb air, 21 lb water.
As a side note, there is one Allison powered boat TODAY that is highly competitive with the turbines.
I can't remember the guy's name.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 06:24:17 PM » |
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The unlimited hydro plane that pete1 is referring to is the U-3 owned by ed cooper jr. ed did not race the boat last year and is not racing this year because he is not getting along with the people at H-1. the turbine guys got mad that a piston powered boat was beating there turbine powered boats. H-1 told ed that his boat was no longer wanted on the racing circut.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 06:39:37 PM » |
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The unlimited hydro plane that pete1 is referring to is the U-3 owned by ed cooper jr. ed did not race the boat last year and is not racing this year because he is not getting along with the people at H-1. the turbine guys got mad that a piston powered boat was beating there turbine powered boats. H-1 told ed that his boat was no longer wanted on the racing circut.
Oh,man, that sucks but typical of "teabaggers".....If you can't beat them, rule them out. I ran into that same mentality many years ago in road racing. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2011, 10:28:40 PM » |
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Thanks DaveL, I wasn't too far off mate. Now how did we get side tracked with wooden boats?  ? Sid. |
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