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Title: Loring results
Post by: fredvance on August 01, 2009, 12:13:23 PM: I thought I would get his going. Weather is perfect, high today 79 deg, small chance for afternoon showers. They should have started racing a couple of hours ago. Nothing on Deb's(Dahmurf) twitter site.

Fred
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 01, 2009, 12:57:12 PM: Good luck to all.
Last Minette family emergency kept Lawson and my self from getting there.
Lost my 93 year old grandma at 7 last night.
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: fredvance on August 01, 2009, 01:03:12 PM: I just talked to Johnny Cheese, they started licensing runs about an hour ago and they are shut down right now for blow up clean up. Gary(trnbrn661) ran 178+ on his licence pass.

Fred
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2009, 01:12:41 PM: Terry,

Sorry to hear of your Grandmothers passing.

John
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 01, 2009, 01:16:37 PM: thanks
did not mean to hijack.
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: fredvance on August 01, 2009, 02:42:41 PM: Condolences Terry. Did not mean to ignore you. If she made it to 93 she got her moneys worth. My Dad is 93 and still going. :-D

Fred
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 01, 2009, 04:39:14 PM: Catching the hint from Debbie's tweet, local TV coverage from yesterday: http://www.wagmtv.com/newssource8/story/2009-07-31-life-in-the-fast-lane (http://www.wagmtv.com/newssource8/story/2009-07-31-life-in-the-fast-lane).

BTW, you don't have to join twitter to see what she's tweeting. Just go to: http://twitter.com/DahMurf (http://twitter.com/DahMurf) and refresh the page occassionally.

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2009, 04:59:37 PM: Courtesy of Debbie Dross Twitter account postings.

Thanks Deb. :cheers:

1.
4182 mpsg1650 Deluca in line for first full pull.half a minute ago from txt
2.
Dean Sabat ran but had a shift issue. Back in line for another go.10 minutes ago from txt
3.
7152 114" shovelhead 73 heads & aftermarket put together. 101 shakeout pass. Don Roberts pilot.13 minutes ago from txt
4.
9601 69 yellow camero RS/SS ZR2 Motor. ran 124. Grudge car with 3 drivers duking it out.20 minutes ago from txt
5.
CA Bill is at 188 with an early shift. He's in line for more.27 minutes ago from txt
6.
bike 9670 honda blackbird 165.7933 minutes ago from txt
7.
last one was a busa34 minutes ago from txt
8.
bike 9526 has run 182.075 P/P-1350.34 minutes ago from txt
9.
WAGM in maine covered us on the news. should be on web today go look for it. rustang paul caligaro covered.36 minutes ago from txt
10.
Phil Campbell turbo busa first in 200 club at 222. Racheal Johnson first woman in 2 club. small turbo busa at 204.38 minutes ago from txt
11.
we're in line again! Shane Todd & I all made our license passes close to 175.about 3 hours ago from txt
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2009, 05:18:41 PM: Bill Warner ran 257 with clothes on.. :cheers:

Thanks Deb
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: fredvance on August 01, 2009, 06:30:59 PM: Dean Sabat 220 naked
Warp 12 racing zx 14 197
SGR-Shane 240

Fred
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 02, 2009, 11:24:11 AM: What is an SGR?? How many wheels??

Oh! Debbie is being "followed" on her tweets by GuinessWorldRecords (GWRnews). 8-)

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 02, 2009, 02:06:15 PM: Mike,

SGR is for Scott Guthrie Racing and it's a two wheeler, the same bike with the past owner 9Charlie) ran 259+ at Maxton before Scott acquired it.

Deb..thanks for the posts/tweets...
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 02, 2009, 02:33:08 PM: Thanks, John! :cheers:

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Glen on August 02, 2009, 07:19:23 PM: Any more results, nothing on Deb's twitter site. Did they get rained out?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 02, 2009, 07:36:40 PM: Pefect weather! Cool and a little breezy. Once we had to stop for Moose on the track. I hope people start to post pictures soon.

There were lots of records set, of course.

The track is wide and smooth. If you weren't there this weekend, you had better be there next time.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: desotoman on August 02, 2009, 08:10:38 PM: Some results located here: http://twitter.com/edonsmith1

Tom G.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Larry Forstall on August 02, 2009, 08:18:55 PM: Track record was set by Shane Stubbs on Scott Guthrie's turbo Busa at 260.990 Dean Sabatinelli went 245 on a turbo 1000 Kawasaki. Steve Knecum went 248 on a naked turbo Busa and 235 on a faired nitrous Busa. Mark DeLuca went 237.7 on an all motor Busa. Needless to say conditions were outstanding with everyone posting by far their best speeds ever. Strong tailwind and near sea level high oxygen content foliage made this possible. Congrats to all. Sorry I don't know about the cars. Larry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 02, 2009, 08:22:07 PM: Whoa!!! 245 with a 1,000 cc motor? That's stout! Congratulations, Dean. Good on you to Knecum and DeLuca and Stubbs, too. I guess this answers the question about whether the bikes needed more room to gain a full head of speed. Especially that 1000 bike. Dang, that's fast.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 02, 2009, 08:34:50 PM: Larry,

Was the Nitrous bike that Steve road and the All motor bike that Mark rode the same bike?

John
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 02, 2009, 08:51:17 PM: A PICTURE OF THE TRACK
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 02, 2009, 08:59:25 PM: Sarter Chad
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: interested bystander on August 02, 2009, 09:02:59 PM: Gotta beat STAN to this!

And just when will the cars run? He asked sarcasticly.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 02, 2009, 09:14:47 PM: The Gustafson Corvette had 5 different drivers with a top speed of 194.

Does anyone have times for the cars?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Larry Forstall on August 02, 2009, 09:19:30 PM: Different bike John; Steve rode Big Blue which was last years Maxton N/A record holder. It will now run as a dedicated NO2 bike with a wet system next year. L
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 02, 2009, 09:30:12 PM: Larry,

Thanks for the info..I was wondering if it was the same bike with just a "touch" of Juice since Steve went slower on Nitrous than Mark all motor.

When Steve and Mark get back get some pictures posted...like I told Deb, we are jonesing for info... :cheers:

John
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Jerry O on August 02, 2009, 10:20:14 PM: WOW !! Way to go Dean on the 245.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: joea on August 02, 2009, 10:38:22 PM: wow....big congrats Dean, Mark, Shane, Steve etal......

way impressive speeds....

Joe :)

modified: couldnt forget Steve....wow...how did you guys pick
up 10 mph....?........
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: roadracer on August 03, 2009, 03:06:25 PM: Congratulations to everyone on a successful weekend! Thanks to Bob, Joe, and Donna for making this happen. I have to take this opportunity to thank Sal Spatafora for the AWESOME ACE PERFORMANCE power that allowed us to become the world's fastest NA 650cc motorcycle, with a pass of 190.118 mph. The ZX-6RR ran flawlessly. Also, a special thanks to Phil Campbell for his support this weekend and Congratulations to him for being the FIRST in the LTA 200 club and his 235 mph pass. It was a spectacular weekend and our successful weekend will make the long drive home seem much shorter. See you in Sept. at Maxton.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Nosgsx1300 on August 03, 2009, 03:58:45 PM: roadracer I could not agree with you more about (and very nice to meet you)
THANKS to Bob Joe and Donna

I am already looking forward to next year....as soon as my sunburn dies down a bit
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 04:14:12 PM: Ed Brace went 175.5 with Found Money.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on August 03, 2009, 04:41:09 PM: Which is . . . (?)
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 03, 2009, 04:50:52 PM: Quote from: gofast on August 03, 2009, 04:14:12 PM
Ed Brace went 175.5 with Found Money.
Heck ya :cheers:
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 05:11:26 PM: Right back at ya Terry. What a great bunch of guys.

:cheers:
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 03, 2009, 05:40:54 PM: 265+ Wow...
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: shiphteey on August 03, 2009, 05:51:18 PM: Just got back, I'm beat! Best speed of 229.6 mph on a virtually stock motor ZX-12R on nitrous. Got the MPS-F 1350/4 record....

....if only the ECTA record was as easy ... :-P

A
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: mkilger on August 03, 2009, 06:02:08 PM: it must have been a bike meet :-P
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:07:10 PM: The cars are still driving home!

:-DWe got home about 7PM last night. The fastest was a roadster, I think it went 208. The Gustafson corvette went 194.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: mkilger on August 03, 2009, 06:12:34 PM: wow they only had 2 cars unreal, it will grow Iam sure next year will be better.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:22:27 PM: Hopfully all those car guys will post. Or there will be some official times posted.
There were at least 20 cars.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: mkilger on August 03, 2009, 06:26:40 PM: Thats better :cheers:
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:30:24 PM: There were lots of streetrods in the spectator parking too. I didn't take many pictures.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: CTRon on August 03, 2009, 06:31:53 PM: hey marcia you guys comin out to bonneville?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:34:58 PM: I'm flying out Wednesday morning. I'm going to do some sight seeing and get to Wendover Friday.

When will you get there?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: joe55 on August 03, 2009, 07:00:29 PM: roadster #55 went 216.596 sunday morning! I think, top speed for cars. I was in the seat. Everybody should thank Joe & Donna for all the work that they did to help pull this off. Also the people of Limestone and Caribou Maine. We had a great time, what a track!!!!! Thanks to everybody involved.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: joe55 on August 03, 2009, 07:14:03 PM: I forgot to ask, how fast did Donna go today?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 03, 2009, 07:28:28 PM: Joe is that the top speed for your roadster?I have been a fan of yours for a while.

congrats to you eather way
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 03, 2009, 07:29:59 PM: Quote from: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:30:24 PM
There were lots of streetrods in the spectator parking too. I didn't take many pictures.

Could you repost a full size picture of the first car, please! Looks interesting.

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Nosgsx1300 on August 03, 2009, 07:37:52 PM: donna ended up going 186 or 188 somewhere there abouts
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: dickj on August 03, 2009, 07:40:05 PM: How close can you get without going over. The black #729 Firebird did 199.053. Wondering what the Rambler did right after I hurt my motor.

DickJ
In (or headed to) East Texas
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 03, 2009, 07:43:16 PM: Is this better?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Cajun Kid on August 03, 2009, 07:51:11 PM: Great job Joe,,,, 216.596..

Does anyone how fast Andrew went in his Studebaker ? and the Falcon/Ranchero ?

Was that a 300ZX ? speed ?

Thanks

Charles (wish I could have been there)
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Cajun Kid on August 03, 2009, 08:11:04 PM: Congrats go out Ed Brace and the "Found Money" Race Team,,, I think 175.xxx is there fastest run ever,,, Keep it up Ed, Ed and not Ed. (Conrad , I think)

Hope to see you guys at Maxton in September...

Charles
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 03, 2009, 09:32:31 PM: I think the falcon/ranchero went 133.
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Cajun Kid on August 03, 2009, 09:55:05 PM: thanks Terry
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Post by: wheels777 on August 03, 2009, 10:10:53 PM: Quote from: Cajun Kid on August 03, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Does anyone how fast Andrew went in his Studebaker ?

179.644 with lots of potential left on the table.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: wheels777 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:11 PM: :roll:
Bet you can guess what I did
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: RidgeRunner on August 03, 2009, 10:16:59 PM: Thanks everybody. :cheers: As Ed is first to say, "We don't get much time in the sun, have to soak it up when we can".

It's all Ed Brace's. Conrad, Jerry, and I just help out at the track [Chuck was a welcome addition and big help this weekend]. Needless to say it was a happy ride home after the best ever 175+ [+14 on the prev best Maxton 161], finally got to where we felt he should have been all along with what he has. Couldn't have gotten this far without a LOT of help from a LOT of others, we thank you and hope you are sharing some of this sunlight.

Pete Keyser and crew were also very happy with the 430's 142 run, again finally getting into the range they thought they should be in after a lot of hard work.

Ed, Larry, and crew had gotten the 9555 back up into the 190's after a lot of hard work overcoming some recent setbacks by the time we left.

Was good to see Robbie and crew up from NC with the Dodge, hope their tuning upped the numbers, were prepping for another run when we left.

Wouldn't have been a full meet with out Bill and Kim driving the 548 up to run.......

Congratulations Joe and the 55 crew, a class organization.

Carter Loyd and crew were shaking the bugs out of a nice brand new roadster.

I was really impressed with the little Blue coupe with the independent suspension from Wareham MA. Nice rod from back in the day being run as it was built for.

John and his buddies seemed to be having a good time with the yellow Camaro along with doing volunteer work.

Maine Baron's drove enough real hot rod street drivers in to make me wonder if I wasn't back at a 60's drag meet.

No intentionals on the rest I know I missed, brain overload this weekend and getting tired now.

Hope to get out to play again and see you all at Sept Maxton, until then take care everybody,

Ed
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: rancheroman on August 03, 2009, 10:18:30 PM: We ended up with 136 on Sunday afternoon, plus made the first return road, and didn't burn any pistons. Life is good....... Awesome meet, Awesome facility,Awesome people, Local people thanked us for coming. Can't say enough about the local people, the town, safety people, firemans 'hot dogs', we had a great time. Paul, (Calaguiro Bros Racing) 62 Ranchero
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Cajun Kid on August 03, 2009, 11:09:58 PM: Paul, great job,

Andrew,,, I knew you could break 175,,,, good job... how many classes did you run? How did the chute feel at that speed ? What chnages did you make ? (re gear ? )

See you in Sept at Maxton ?

Charles
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: CTRon on August 04, 2009, 12:06:59 AM: Quote from: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:34:58 PM
I'm flying out Wednesday morning. I'm going to do some sight seeing and get to Wendover Friday.

When will you get there?
me mom dad an richie are flyin in on friday mornin.. woohoo cant wait!! see you guys there!!!
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 04, 2009, 08:36:45 AM: Paul I stand corrected that is a great speed for that combo.
You guys have busted your butts for that :cheers:

Andrews car built on a budget,but better than many high dollar cars way to go :cheers:
congrats to all.
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: joe55 on August 04, 2009, 11:15:45 AM: T Russell, thats the fasted so far. We,ll see what she does at Bonneville in Sept. Thanks to everybody again
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Johntsi on August 04, 2009, 11:44:57 AM: On the webpage it says 1.5 miles? Are the results listed for that distance or for the standing mile?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: DahMurf on August 04, 2009, 01:11:24 PM: Results are all for the 1.5 mile.

Debbie
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Glen on August 04, 2009, 01:13:12 PM: this means a 132 foot trap at the end of the 1.5 mile.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Caveman on August 04, 2009, 04:48:41 PM: I worked mid-track as a volunteer track steward; great spot to see these guys (& gals!) scream by. My ole truck (the '56) did amazingly reliable duty on track sweeps, plus the 900-ish miles round trip.

These are all approx. times, as I was keeping a sharp eye out for moose (!) and not writing speeds down.

-I think the black '67 Mustang fastback with the pinto motor did 120ish
-The Gustafson Vette ran a couple mph faster every run... topped out at 191mph I think.
-The Ranchero did 114, then 116, then 120, and iirc, it mighta done a few above that.
-The black 07 Vette from Wareham, MA did 185 ish on motor, then popped the intake trying for more with spray... I'm from that area, so it was a neat way to meet my neighbors as it coasted over to me... hope the motor wasn't hurt too bad.
-Blown Flattie black coupe ('33?) ran 130's, had some issues, and came back to run 145. Sounded KILLER. :mrgreen:

Tons more, got some great pics too... I'll put 'em up on Bangshift.com as soon as I can.

Tony
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 04, 2009, 09:07:39 PM: oops.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 04, 2009, 10:54:38 PM: Quote from: Caveman on August 04, 2009, 04:48:41 PM
-I think the black '67 Mustang fastback with the pinto motor did 120ish

Anyone know any particulars about the powerplant or get any pics of the Mustang?

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 04, 2009, 11:13:27 PM: ^5 K code car with 79 pinto/mustang turbo 4cyl.He drives it from Ohio.
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 72tx340 on August 04, 2009, 11:20:15 PM: (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l138/72tx340/IMG_2561.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l138/72tx340/IMG_2549.jpg)

This one?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 05, 2009, 12:44:37 AM: Thank you to the both of you! :cheers: And I find he set a record at Maxton in April 2008.

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Lt Aguy on August 05, 2009, 03:41:21 AM: Results are posted on the Loring website.... by time and by vehicle #

www.lta-lsr.com
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: iamflagman on August 05, 2009, 07:53:54 AM: My aerodynamic brick ran pretty good and it was a well put on event as far as I'm concerned, thanks to Mr. Wanna and the LTA crew, Joe and Donna and all of the volunteers for their hard work and time.

I'm in Manchester, NH still making my way back to South Carolina stopping here and there along the way to freeload off of...........er, I mean vist friends.(http://www.scsportscar.com/uploads/smil40096d8d68fd6.gif)

(http://www.pbase.com/image/115749100.jpg)
http://www.pbase.com/image/115749100.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/115749100.jpg)

1st run Saturday 01:41:00 PM 8383 118.545
2nd run Saturday 05:13:00 PM 8383 120.662
3rd run Sunday 09:45:00 AM 8383 124.918
Final run Sunday 01:11:00 PM 8383 129.047
(http://www.scsportscar.com/uploads/smil40096d8d6ddf5.gif)
Not bad for the Wild Hare Racing WABBIT powered by a stock 1.8 Litre VW Scirocco 16 valve engine, supported by my Social Security check each month, I quit early Sunday as this oldman was flat tired and worn out from all of the fun. I'll try to have a video up on YouTube soon.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 05, 2009, 08:30:04 AM: Quote from: 72tx340 on August 04, 2009, 11:20:15 PM
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l138/72tx340/IMG_2561.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l138/72tx340/IMG_2549.jpg)

This one?

That be it.He put the glass in to open the car to the production blown class.
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: RidgeRunner on August 05, 2009, 09:38:30 AM: 2006 ECTA car points champion.

Has been to the 150's with V-8 power.

Ran World of Speed one year, driving it to and from.

Has run it at 17 or 18 LSR events driving it to and from, only going back on the hook once.

Was planing on heading back to Ohio by way of the Allagash.

DEDICATED!
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: White Monster on August 05, 2009, 10:05:18 AM: Some interesting facts from the Run Log ...

- Course Record was 260.99 MPH on a bike
- there were 392 total runs
- 124 runs by cars
- 268 runs by motorcycles
- fastest car 216.596 MPH
- fastest motorcycle 260.99 MPH
- slowest car 30.474 MPH
- slowest motorcycle 51.491 MPH
- 6 DNF's (2 cars & 4 bikes)
- first run was at 11:49 am Saturday
- last run was 5:16 pm Sunday

I wish the results at least also listed the engine class / vehicle category and maybe the team name & driver / rider name.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: tedgram on August 05, 2009, 10:39:25 AM: I'm sure that will be added when there is time.

Quote from: White Monster on August 05, 2009, 10:05:18 AM
Some interesting facts from the Run Log ...

- Course Record was 260.99 MPH on a bike
- there were 392 total runs
- 124 runs by cars
- 268 runs by motorcycles
- fastest car 181.279 MPH
- fastest motorcycle 260.99 MPH
- slowest car 30.474 MPH
- slowest motorcycle 51.491 MPH
- 6 DNF's (2 cars & 4 bikes)
- first run was at 11:49 am Saturday
- last run was 5:16 pm Sunday

I wish the results at least also listed the engine class / vehicle category and maybe the team name & driver / rider name.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Nosgsx1300 on August 05, 2009, 11:19:36 AM: there was a eagle talon AWD that got booted for going 208 with a 175 tech speed limit
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 05, 2009, 11:23:27 AM: Cool! Thanks.

Mike
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: t russell on August 05, 2009, 12:27:25 PM: there were a few cars in the 200+ mph.
55 roadster 215.956
the run log could be better.
With that being said they done 1 heck of a job 1st time out :cheers:
terry
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: sabat on August 05, 2009, 02:49:22 PM: What a fantastic meet, everyone went crazy fast, no real problems, no one hurt.

Congrats to everyone, great to see / meet everybody, looking forward to doing it again next year.

Good luck to all those going to Bonneville, wish I could be there.

Dean

(Donna is badass!!!)
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 55chevr on August 05, 2009, 06:06:23 PM: I got a chance to review the run logs ... 390 total runs with 109 runs over 200 mph ... from the timing stand it appears that most of the 200 runs the bikes were in high gear at about the .8 mile mark and then they used the high end to get the most out of the machines ... Joe
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Bob Wanner on August 05, 2009, 10:19:33 PM: "there was a eagle talon AWD that got booted for going 208 with a 175 tech speed limit"

Baseless rumor, never happened, don't give credit to unsubstantial info.
You have any proof this happened ? Talon guy don't either.
More later, still tired guy Bob W...
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: MiltonP on August 06, 2009, 12:39:33 AM: I am curious how the Corvette did that was built specifically for 200 at this event. Last I saw both drivers had made their 175 passes at 179 mph and were proceeding according to plan. I am not sure how I feel about instant 200's but I reckun they did their homework and earned their way to a 200 mph car sale since that was their mission. I thought the event was incredible, and I have been in attendance at some significant motorsports events in the past; however, I have to admit that quick 200 builds and the amazing Scott Guthrie Team/Machine achievements leave me just a little worried about the prospects for the little guys, and gals, on tight budgets in the sport. I don't have much thoughts about a 200 club hat at this point but it is looking like it will be extremely difficult, which maybe it should be, to do on your own in the future if semi-pro teams become the norm. No big surprise though since this has happened in just about every other motorsport.

I also paused a moment at the hotel Saturday night when Scott made his 200 mph club presentation. It was very well done, and well deserved by those who got it done, but I had to think about the racers who were working hard in classes which will never see a 200 run and wondered when the recognition for their efforts may appear. I don't want to see the only 'vocal' part of our sport focused on getting 200 mph club hats. It may be OK for all the racers but I am not sure the fans present will understand. I was happy to see a presentation of who made it in the 200 mph club but maybe we should try to include a bit in the presentation on the fastest VW, 636, vintage BSA, Studebaker and AMC next time around.

A few other notes. While I did enjoy the banter back and forth during the Texas vs Guthrie battle, I was more impressed by Bill W's steadfast attitude following what may have been a season ending equipment failure. I know that puff of white smoke at the end of his run made me, and others, hesitate for a moment. I also have very nice images in my mind of a very happy Mustang owner and Phil talking about his 200 run. I may not have cared for the Eclipse racer's feelings about our rules but he sure wasn't bs'ing when it came to performance. On the other hand, I won't forget the enthusiasm of a certain Taurus/Bike racer that appreciates our rules but just couldn't resist the lure of what Loring was offering him. I do know it will be very interesting to see how this event ranks after the Bonneville season winds down and we start to close the season at Maxton,
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: John Noonan on August 06, 2009, 01:33:05 AM: Milton,

The allure of LSR catches many and a few stay hooked, some people have the fastest @#$ ever with a recorded speed of %$# mph however this is called Land SPEED Racing. Often I see where a certain racer has run a phenomenal time in her/his class and only get a small mention online or in print.

it is no different when you watch NHRA drag racing and they focus mainly on Top fuel Dragsters, the floppers (Funny Cars) PS (Pro Stock) and very limited coverage of PSB (Pro Stock Bike)

Speed/action sells.

I have been at Bonneville watching a record run of 50 miles per hour screaming inside for the racer to "hurry up" when in fact her/his machine may have only run 35-45 mph stock at sea level and they have actually worked harder to make their vehicle pick up 10-15 mph than we spent to make our 185 mph vehicle run over 250 mph..

The SLOWer vehicles will never get the same print/media exposure or even racer interest because it is about going FAST.

Now a 636 running 190mph should get a ton of news and interest however it is up to the interested parties to make that happen.

Their will always be a team or person that is willing to spend 25K for a proven machine rather than build one of their own with unknown results however just like in life someone always has more money than you.. :wink:

Stay thirsty my friends.. :cheers:

John
I edited this because it needed it, I did not change the post other than proofing it.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: 55chevr on August 06, 2009, 07:29:17 AM: I run a small motor Harley Davidson (1000cc). It was specifically built for land speed racing. The bike performs well and I hold a number of records in different venues. It will never go 200 and therefore, I can never make the 2- clubs. The accomplishment of running faster on my own records is very satisfying. There area a lot more racers enjoying themselves without the prospect of the 2- club then there are in the clubs. Each of us pursues what we value. Loring was an opportunity with open records to get the hat even if you dint hold onto the record for long. I am happy for everyone that accomplished it. It doesn't diminish the achievement in the least. I have to admit that I agree with John Noonan.

Joe
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: MiltonP on August 06, 2009, 07:49:42 AM: I agree and understand all the points. Just a bit of alcohol induced rambling after our post-Loring / pre-Bonneville get together last night. :cheers:

I suppose when Scott called all the LTA folks to the room I was expecting something to be said for all the racers present at the meet versus a 200 club presentation. Definitely was glad that took place but it left me wondering about the other guys.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: roadracer on August 06, 2009, 08:39:23 AM: Milton you make a valid point, but to me it's all about the accomplishment. I know all of the hours it has taken to get that ZX-6 to run like it has this year. I know that 2 years ago I was struggling to even think about setting a record. It has taken 3 things for the bike to get to where it is. Money, time and more money. My point is I have raced bikes in some form for 40 years now. I've lived the ups and downs of it. This is my 3rd year of Land Speed and I love it. I do it foe one reason and one reason only. The chase. There is speed out there and I want to find it. That 636 normally aspirated has gone as far as it will go, but I'll still be on it looking for just a fraction here and there. Satisfaction and accomplishment are the words. I know what I'm trying to do, and what I've done. 190.118, I'll be smiling for the rest of the year. Oh and BTW, it seems like the Australian press is intrested.

Rachael and Phil, Congrats to you both. I am so proud to have seen your passes to be the 1st into the 2 club. Dean, just amazing what you did on the 10. You have put together some machine. Joe, you deserve so much thanks as you spent all of the weekend working so we could run. I only know of you making 1 pass. Thank you so much my friend.

It's not how fast you go. If 200 is the goal, you buy and build for it. Whatever the goal is, it's not even the success of accomplishing it. As soon as you reach your goal there is a new one set. It is about the journey to get there.

See you all in Maxton in September. The 636 and the 250 have a goal set for that weekend.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: bigdog4406 on August 06, 2009, 09:23:07 AM: hi everyone, i thought the main point to " lsr " was not how fast you go, but much FUN you can have, and how many " friends " you can make,, speed is just extra. we are not fast, but sure have had a lot of fun !! and made many more " FRIENDS " . thanks to everyone for that.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on August 06, 2009, 11:20:31 AM: Roadracer --

Congratulations on a fantastic accomplishment!

(And if you want a bigger number -- just convert to kilometers.)

Stan
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: roadracer on August 06, 2009, 01:44:58 PM: Quote from: Stan Back on August 06, 2009, 11:20:31 AM
Roadracer --

Congratulations on a fantastic accomplishment!

(And if you want a bigger number -- just convert to kilometers.)

Stan

That gives me to many ideas and an even bigger smile. Thanks.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Bob Wanner on August 06, 2009, 10:16:34 PM: "I suppose when Scott called all the LTA folks to the room I was expecting something to be said for all the racers present at the meet versus a 200 club presentation. Definitely was glad that took place but it left me wondering about the other guys."

Actually this was meant to be a get together similar to SSS's Salt Talks at The Bend in the road at Bonneville. Kinda why we call it "AsphaltTalks ". Scott took the opportunity to speak speak and show his appreciation, which was appropriate and well deserved.
Us LTA guys were there, we thought it was very Guthrie and we dug it.
We had announced the meeting months before, and were happy with the turnout, it were a loooong day.
Bob Wanner
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: vipera on August 09, 2009, 11:53:41 AM: Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on August 03, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
Quote from: gofast on August 03, 2009, 06:30:24 PM
There were lots of streetrods in the spectator parking too. I didn't take many pictures.

Could you repost a full size picture of the first car, please! Looks interesting.

Mike

Hmm.. that's one of my pics..
More here: http://picasaweb.google.com/t.boyce/LoringLandSpeedRacing (http://picasaweb.google.com/t.boyce/LoringLandSpeedRacing)
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: iamflagman on August 11, 2009, 05:05:40 AM: Quote from: vipera on August 09, 2009, 11:53:41 AM
Hmm.. that's one of my pics..
More here: http://picasaweb.google.com/t.boyce/LoringLandSpeedRacing (http://picasaweb.google.com/t.boyce/LoringLandSpeedRacing)

I hope you don't mind I used the picture of my car the WABBIT in my youtube video, it showed its true color, not black as some people see it in the shade :-o
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: iamflagman on August 11, 2009, 05:11:13 AM: Quote from: gofast on August 02, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
A PICTURE OF THE TRACK

I hope you don't mind I used your great picture on my youtube video, it showed just how wide of a track we had to run on. 8-)
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: gofast on August 13, 2009, 11:32:54 PM: I am just leaving Bonneville and I talked to a lot of people about Loring and how great the track was.
Thanks for sharing the photo. Spread the word. Wait a minute....how long do you want the staging lines?
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on August 14, 2009, 10:18:03 PM: "roadster #55 went 216.596 sunday morning! I think, top speed for cars. I was in the seat. Everybody should thank Joe & Donna for all the work that they did to help pull this off. Also the people of Limestone and Caribou Maine. We had a great time, what a track!!!!! Thanks to everybody involved."

Pretty good speed for a Modified Roadster. Apparently illegal as a Street Roadster with the grill leaned way back -- see pictures in the lights and the hood top fit in the pits.

Seems like this team has lost a record before with unallowed body modifications. Probably not an issue ar Loring or ECTA -- but would be at an SCTA meet.

Stan
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Bob Wanner on October 17, 2009, 10:29:19 PM: Results are up, finally. Anybody has corrections or questions write us at the "contact' email address on LTA-LSR.com.
I hope everybody appreciates the difficulty and amount of work it took to get these numbers together, as in don't take a new group for granted compared to the organizations that have been doing this for years.
Also the SWAG orders will have to be in by the end of the month, as is now posted on the home page.
Bob W
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: wrongway on October 17, 2009, 11:01:43 PM: Quote from: Bob Wanner on October 17, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
Results are up, finally. Anybody has corrections or questions write us at the "contact' email address on LTA-LSR.com.
I hope everybody appreciates the difficulty and amount of work it took to get these numbers together, as in don't take a new group for granted compared to the organizations that have been doing this for years.
Also the SWAG orders will have to be in by the end of the month, as is now posted on the home page.
Bob W

Great job on posting the records. Some of those might be there a long time...

Roy
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: entropy on October 22, 2009, 09:11:42 AM: Quote from: wrongway on October 17, 2009, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: Bob Wanner on October 17, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
Results are up, finally. Anybody has corrections or questions write us at the "contact' email address on LTA-LSR.com.
I hope everybody appreciates the difficulty and amount of work it took to get these numbers together, as in don't take a new group for granted compared to the organizations that have been doing this for years.
Also the SWAG orders will have to be in by the end of the month, as is now posted on the home page.
Bob W
Great job on posting the records. Some of those might be there a long time...
Roy

That's what I am hoping :cheers:
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on October 22, 2009, 03:05:21 PM: I'd bet most would last a least a year.

Stan
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: dickj on November 21, 2009, 11:20:15 PM: Bob,

How about a hint as to when certificates will be sent out.

Thanks
DickJ
In East Texas
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Joe Timney on November 22, 2009, 11:58:37 AM: Joe Ledford's Street roadster #55 is legal...see picture

joe
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on November 22, 2009, 07:03:39 PM: If the grille is leaned back, as appears on the side panels and hood top, it's not. At least in the SCTA.

Stan
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 22, 2009, 09:05:28 PM: I dunno, Stan, if the grille is leaned back -- but I was at Bonneville a few years ago when Joe got his red hat, so the car was legal then (if not now). He raced at World of Speed this year, I believe -- but don't remember if he made it to impound. I think he did. . .and that'd imply the car is legal still.
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on November 23, 2009, 11:04:58 AM: He did get the record at a World of Speed event where the scrutiny is not as great as SpeeWeek. It was later taken away for illegal fender modifications.

In the Loring pictures it shows the hood sides to be a different shade than the rest of the car. And the rows of louvers have extras on the bottom leading to the belief that the hood sides are not parallel as they should be. And it appears to be using the previous hood top which leaves a pie-slice opening as it appears the bottom of the grille shell has been kicked out. Why make new side panels if the grille shell has not been relocated?

I don't know the Loring rules. Or the ECTA rules. But I think the car would run B (if that's the engine size) / Gas Modified Roadster in SCTA if it lost the fenders. It's not legal in Gas or Fuel Roadster either. But east of the Mississippi it apparently can run AA/Fuel Roaster in its present configuration.

Still a fast run.

Stan
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Cajun Kid on November 23, 2009, 11:33:29 AM: Looks like "Optical Confusion" to me,,, Nice Car and Nice Run.

Charles
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 23, 2009, 04:40:18 PM: I wonder how the scrutiny might be different at World of Speed than it is at SpeedWeek or World Finals. In all three events -- the fellow doing the record certifications is the ever-famous Dan Warner.

Unless you're implying that Dan caught it at WoS and denied the record -- that might be.

Best --
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stainless1 on November 23, 2009, 06:23:33 PM: Quote from: Stan Back on November 23, 2009, 11:04:58 AM
He did get the record at a World of Speed event where the scrutiny is not as great as SpeeWeek. It was later taken away for illegal fender modifications.

Stan

Stan, I thought you were providing the scrutiny for roadsters... :roll: at all the meets. Did ya run outta Hundreds? Should I lend you a few, my rates are less than Freud's
Title: Re: Loring results
Post by: Stan Back on November 23, 2009, 08:18:57 PM: No foul on Dan. He's limited with resources at WOS. He may write all the rules, but he hasn't memorized them in all categories and classes.

Stan