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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: Jerry O on July 01, 2009, 09:21:19 PM
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I have been hanging around this sight for about a year now and figure it is about time I post some info and photos of my new streamliner build. This is my first build so go easy on me if you see anything that looks strange. I am allways open to any constructive comments. I have been working on the car for about a year now. I have designed and build every part on the car (minus wheelsandtire's of coarse) The car is set up to run as a I/GS. It has full adjustable suspension front and rear. It is powered by a mild Kawasaki ZX 10 engine. I plan on using this engine to test and get all the bugs out. I want to make sure the car goes straight and stops well before I go to a all out race engine. The car is 21 feet long, 29 inches high at the roll bar, 30 inches wide at the rear and will weigh about 1100lb with me in it. I am in the process of building the body at this time. It will be a one piece fibergass design. Again, this is my first LSC so if any of you veterans see anything I need to change, please let me know. It may save me money, time, parts or my life.
This is the car setting at ride height waiting for the body.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/frt.jpg)
Parachute tube , fuel tank and battery box
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/chute.jpg)
This the rear axle assembly ready to be assembled. I made the axle from 1.75 4130. I machined a center carrier from 7075 T-6 aluminum for the inboard brake rotors.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/axle2.jpg)
Here is the rear axle assembly together and ready to be installed
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/axle1.jpg)
This is another shot of the front suspension.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/frontsusp.jpg)
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great job Jerry....glad to see you got pics and captions to post..
see u soon
Charles
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WOW
Looks great.
John
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Here are a few more photos of the rear after I installed in the chassis.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/rearaxle.jpg)
Top view of rear axle
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/toprear.jpg)
This is a top view of the front suspension. This is a four link design with a lower rocker connecting the front shocks. I am also using rack and pinion steering. The front tires are made by Goodyear. They were design to be used on some of the Top Fuel dragsters back in the 80"s My plans are to use this set up for Maxton and then us a solid aluminum wheel design for Bonneville.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/steering.jpg)
Driver area. Carbon seat and 7 point belt system
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/seat.jpg)
Some guys like to use a hand clutch but I decided to use a foot operated clutch pedal.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/pedals.jpg)
Thats it for now. I will post more tomorrow. Thanks all!! JerryO
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Jerry, I saw picture of your car on the ECTA thread. It is beautiful, great job for a guy on the right coast..... :-)
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Thanks Charles for the help on getting to photos loaded.
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My pleasure Jerry,,, glad I could help,,, now you can keep us all up to date with pics on the final stagesof the build... I can't wait to see the body and the paint scheme.
Charles.
Come up to Welcome, NC sometime and visit
Charles
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Looks even better in person, again great job Jerry. Looking forward to seeing it run. -Dean
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Looks great Jerry, I'm glad you solved the posting problems. :cheers:
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Jerry:
That's one of the most impressive builds I've seen. Your attention to detail is outstanding.
Pete
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Thanks, Dynoroom, Dean and Peter. I have been getting some very good feed back and advice. Thanks for your encouragement on my build.
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Very nice. Get a feeling someone has worked around sprint cars for a while. Me, I've still not set foot on salt but from the pictures I'm thinking about the firewall fit and wondering how much salt is going to get tossed about inside the shell near the tires.
Still, it looks very well thought out and you have a plan. 8-)
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WOW!!! The Wonderful One
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VERY NICE! SUPERCLEAN DESIGN.
Harvey
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Very nice. Get a feeling someone has worked around sprint cars for a while. Me, I've still not set foot on salt but from the pictures I'm thinking about the firewall fit and wondering how much salt is going to get tossed about inside the shell near the tires.
Still, it looks very well thought out and you have a plan. 8-)
He will need to make wheel wells to seal that area off, I'm sure he has already planned on encorporating the wells into the outer shell.
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bvillercr is correct. The wheel wells will be made into the body. I did this so when the body is off the chassis, it will be much easier to service the car.............Jerry
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A few more photos of the car. Forward view of the gauge cluster. The lever on the left is the shifter and the parachute is on the right. I can shift the trans and deploy the chute without taking my hands off the steering wheel.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/dash.jpg)
It may be hard to see but I am using two master cylinders. I have two brake rotors and calipers on the rear that are independent. In the event one fails, I still have brakes.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/mastercyl.jpg)
Another view of driver area.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/driverarea.jpg)
Here are a couple shots of the roll cage. Gives you a idea as how the driver is positioned
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/driverL.jpg)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/driverside2.jpg)
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:cheers: Beautiful!!!! Looking forward to seeing you on the salt. Crow
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Tried that with your firesuit on?
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Sad to say but true. I hope you have, things can get tighter than you think with a suit on. :-D :-D
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Jerry,
You have done a fine job on your build, First Class. I do have a few things I would like to share with you if your are interested about our world of small streamliners.
terry@ecs-systems.com
Fast Wishes...
Terry
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Jerry, I was looking over the pictures again and it looks like you might have aluminum heim joints in the suspension. if you look at rule 3.T in the 2009 SCTA rule book they (aluminum) are not allowed. Just a heads up. Great look piece for sure though.
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Sparky.... I have sat in the car with the fire suit on, it is tight but thats the way I like it. In the event of a crash, I don't want to move around in the car. As for the aluminum rod ends, those will be changed to 4130 ends. You guys are doing just what I need you to do. Look the car over and give me feed back. Its a long trip from NC to Bonneville only to have the car fail tech. Thanks again everyone.
JerryO
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A really nice piece of engineering Quality job!
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Very nice build. Good luck. J.B.
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is there another inside metal liner panel that comes back to your shoulders that is not installed for your side shot? are there frame tubes or substancial steel plate underneath your body length to keep you from going out the bottom during a pencil roll ? If some one were to grab your knee and yank up and back how much comes above the frame rail?
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Terry:
Well, what a pleasant surprise to see you on this Forum. We haven't heard much from you -- or about you -- in quite a while. It's good to know you're still following the sport.
Nancy still remembers the time you had her sit in your 'liner. Still remembers the claustrophobic feelings it gave her. . .
Will you be at the Salt this year? If so -- make sure you look us up for a quick hello -- at least.
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Hey Slim,
Very nice to see you noticed...
I'm still alive and well. After the fire in 2002 I have gotten married, built a new shop, built a new home, built a new facility for my business and oh ya rebuilt the streamliner from the ground up to run blown fuel, YES!! we will be back on the salt again in August and September, Don had open heart surgery three weeks ago, he is ok but recovery will take a few months so he will not be on the salt this year.
Jerry think you can't wait to be on the salt for the first time... after 7 years it hurts...man I just can't wait...
I remember very well the day Nancy got in the car, the look was panic and pleasure at the same time...hmmm I think that would sum up every run on the salt LOL. I have converted my web site to a blog site, take a look at http://oneliterlandspeed.blogspot.com/
Fast wishes everybody,
Terry
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Jerry,
VERY Very NICE!! Your design and fab skills are pretty appearant.
You know that if you come to B'ville, and I sure hope you do!, you are going against a Costello record which is probably the "softest" if you can call 229 mph soft,of all the records that that car has, but I would love to see your car.
Rex
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Rex......... The Costello record will be the one I go for. Like you said, the I/G record may be the softest one to go for. Still a big challenge for me. I have talked to Jack a few times and he has given me some good advice.
Sparky....... Yes there is other panels in the car. As for tubes under the driver area, I have four tubes going from left rail to right rail spaced equally under the floor. There is also a tube that runs down the centerline of the car for the full length of the drivers area. It is set up with a double floor. The one I sit on that is attached to the top of the frame rails, and the belly pan. The car would have to come completely apart for me to come out of it. If you pull my knees up and back, no part comes above the top rails. I may have a photo showing the bars, I will post it if I do.........Thanks...Jerry
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Nice car!! Good luck and be safe!
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Outstanding workmanship and engineering.
Have one bone to pick, though . The tubular "gussets" on the roll cage to the shoulder hoop need to be .125 steel plates, as I recall.
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Outstanding workmanship and engineering.
Have one bone to pick, though . The tubular "gussets" on the roll cage to the shoulder hoop need to be .125 steel plates, as I recall.
I.B. Many cars are built with tubing in this area, plate is not a requirement as I recall.
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I agree with Dyno,,, you may use tubular or plate gussets. As I recall you can choose open or closed corner gussets as well. Open corner would seem best as they don't give salt a place to rest and hide...
Just my understanding and opinion.
Charles
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Jerry,
The page you need to look at is 24, 25 and 26. 3.B1 reads - Gussets are required at tube junctions of hoops and shoulder rail. Gussets shall be made from mild steel, .125 in. minimum thickness and 4 in. per side, preferably stitch welded on the outside of the tube junction, and are required at all shoulder bar attachment points. Grinding of welds is NOT permitted, See Figures 2 and 3. Page 26 does read -Deviation requests shall include strength calculation, drawings and/or pictures... if you would like to keep your tube gussets. The intent of this gusset is to tear not break when the event of an impact strikes the roll cage. That is why tech prefers the stitch weld. Don't forget the rule book is a wealth of knowledge, years of people taking the time to investigate very unfortunate events on the salt and making a correction to see it does not happen again. it should never be more than a arms reach away.
Terry
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Thanx oneliter, none of us bothered to check the RULE BOOK!
Personaly, and I've done two LEGAL SCTA rollbars recently, I LIKE the TUBING!!!
Somebody might check NHRAs "PATCH" on older chassis that don't have a tube internally inserted where the RB attaches. They want a VERTICAL back of and up to to the front bar, nothing beyond.
Not legal SCTA/BNI and not necessarily the best idea.
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Terry, If I understand you correctly, the rule book states that I can use the tube braces as long as I have them approved. Unfortunately, I did not think this would be a issue, when I was is the design stage of my chassis I pulled up about every car photo I could find to see what other cars that ran Bonneville was using. I found that some had tubes and some had the .125 plates. I have been building all types of race cars for the past 30 years and have my own oppinion of the use of the braces but my opinion does not count , the rule book is what I have to follow. Buy the way, hope you are feeling better and look forward to hearing from you next week. Thanks.....Jerry
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Your last comments are correct re: what actually races out there .
Way to many violations of a rather simple, well-defined rule.
He's the tech guy's buddy so tech guy looks the other way.
Or tech man is IGNORANT of the rule!
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Terry, If I understand you correctly, the rule book states that I can use the tube braces as long as I have them approved. Unfortunately, I did not think this would be a issue, when I was is the design stage of my chassis I pulled up about every car photo I could find to see what other cars that ran Bonneville was using. I found that some had tubes and some had the .125 plates. I have been building all types of race cars for the past 30 years and have my own oppinion of the use of the braces but my opinion does not count , the rule book is what I have to follow. Buy the way, hope you are feeling better and look forward to hearing from you next week. Thanks.....Jerry
The bottom line is this rule was written in blood (as many are). A cage with o-to-thin tubing crashed at El Mirage. The cage bars pushed into the shoulder bar during a mishap. As the car continued to crash the cage was ripped off. That is why a plate with stitch welding is recommended. End of story. Do what you think will keep you safe.
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Jerry,
Would it be possible to keep the tube braces as you have them and just add a stitched in plate gusset ?
The Liner looks great, I know you did good research, and some of the diagrams show tubes sone show plates and many pics of cars show some of each design.
Talk soon,,, need your sdvice on the cage matter we spoke about Wednesday.
Charles
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Dynoroom..... It is not what I think that will keep me safe, It is what the rule book states. That is what I will follow. Unfortunately I had a tech guy tell me the tube braces would be OK and recommended them. The one thing I am learning is even though the rule book is black and white about the rules, there seams to be some grey areas depending on what some tech guys will pass or not pass. I feel confident that as long as people like you and the others that have given me advice, I will be OK. Thanks again for your help.
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Charles........ I will have to do some research on that. I am hoping I will be able to just add the .125 plates and not have to cut the tubes out. Call me anytime and we can talk about your cage or maybe I can make a trip to Welcome.
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The cage attachment drawing is a little confusing to me. The text that describes attachment of the gusset says it is recommended to stitch weld it to the shoulder bar. Some wire welders have a stitch control that is adjustable and welds with a series of arcs that can be adjusted for time on and time off. Most welders have learned to do it with out the controller.
The drawing shows a skip/staggered/intermittent weld. Welding symbols show numbers IE: (3-10) with an arrow to the sample weldament in the old Hobart pocketbook. The 3 would be the lenth of the weld and the 10 is distance to the center of the weld segments.
I think some people get the skip and the stitch mixed up. I had the stitch going so well (enjoying it I was) I forgot to skip. I used 3/16 MS plate. Ill take a hole saw with me for the inspectors if I have to change it to a ripping gusset. I like the gussets over the the tubing in this case. IMHO
Harvey
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'09 ECTA rulebook, under 3.B.1 towards end of second paragraph, page 19: "See figures 2,3,4,and 5. On new construction a proper tubing gusset is preferred." 5th paragraph: Should you decide to race at any SCTA sanctioned event, we strongly advise you to obtain a SCTA rulebook as their requirements are significantly different than what is stated above."
Rules are written and enforced for the benefit of all concerned. At times technical progress can advance faster than changes in the book are made. Improvements can always be made with fine tuning - isn't that why we do what we do? Not picking on any organizations, committees, or individuals here, but remembering [and thankful for] that these are volunteers within organizations doing their best to promote our common good.
If detailed questions are submitted to the appropriate organizations/contact persons in a respectful, timely, and orderly manner I am confident common sense and logic will prevail for the benefit of all.
I am helping out on the construction of a new lakester, when completed planning to run Maxton [or Loring] to start, eventually to the salt. Has tube knee braces on the cage now. Will certainly be in contact with the appropriate Tech Committee chairs prior to heading in any direction when the that time comes.
Ed Purinton
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Just curious, it appears that you have 3 keyways in your rear hubs with only one keyway in the rear axle. What is the reason for the three keyways? Sorry if your answer is already somewhere in the text, I missed it.
BHarmon
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bharmon77........The axle has two keyway slots cut at 180 deg apart. The reason the wheel hubs have three is because I was going to use just one large key way but changed my mind and decided to go with two smaller keyways instead. The third keyway slot in the hubs are not used. Nothing special, just my screw up. Thanks.........Jerry
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Jerry O,
Thank you for the response, you have built a beautiful car and I have gone over the pictures many times to admire the craftsmanship.
I am in Ohio and hope to get my car to Maxton some time this year, hope to see you there where I can see the car first hand.
BHarmon
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What an amazingly clean car! Any chance I can talk to you about it for a feature story? Part 1 now, Part 2 at Speedweek?
Thank you,
Pike
Please email or PM me.
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Since I am in the process of building the body I thought I would post some photos of what it will look like.
It is going to be one piece made of fiberglass. The wheel tubs will be made into the body. This will make it easier for me to do the service work after each run. This is a rough 1/8 scale model I carved out of foam just to show about what it will look like. Don't laugh, I only spent about a hour on it but I think you can get a idea of what it will look like. For the real body I have started with a 36 inch X 36 inch X 21 foot long piece of foam. I will then carve the foam to the shape and use that for my buck. Then the fun part of hand laying all the fiberglass. Sanding fiberglass is not one the fun things I like to do but it cost too much to have someone do it for me. I hope to have the body ready to mount in about 2 weeks.
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/lscbody2.jpg)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/lscbody4.jpg)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/lscbody1.jpg)
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/lsliner/lscbody3.jpg)
Good luck to all of you going to Bonneville in the next few weeks. I wish I was going with you. Be safe and have a great time...........JerryO
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Jerry,
Not to hard to see which cars influenced your body shape selection! Considering that Jack Costello cars have absolutely hammered the records of every class they have run in you have made a good choice.
Sounds like you are going to make a plug and then pull the body off of the plug so you will get to do lots of sanding and bondo, cold showers help with the itching!! On a body the size you are making I would think that the it might be a close trade off going to the effort to make a female mold and not have to sand all of that fiber glass to get it really smooth and it would certainly make a smoother body. Sanding foam and bondo is not nearly as painful as fiber glass.
Rex
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Jerry, consider making it a two piece so in case of an emergency we have better access to the driver or engine if there is a fire. The less we have to undo is better.
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Rex........ This being my first LSR car so I decided to go with a proven design. Jacks cars are definitely that, plus I just like the way they look. I have made some changes of my own that I think may help. As for the body mold, I too think going with a female mold would make a nicer piece but I am on a very tight budget. I figured it would cost double to go that route. I don't mind putting some blood and sweet into the body. I have made a couple projects this way and they turned out really nice. Just got to rub on it more. I have talked to Jack a few times and he has given me some good information on how to save on the body build. Like you said, lots of sanding.
Glen........ Your idea about a two piece body is something I have been thinking about also . As you said, it will make it easier in the event of a fire and since I will only have a couple people helping me with the car, it will also be easier to remove the body. I am definitely thinking about it.
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Where are you thinking about splitting it?
3 pieces maybe, from just in front of the drivers feet, behind the canopy vertically and at the waist line from in front of the feet to the rear of car? would make it easier to get to you, and the eng. and drivetrain area. The eng "cover" would be all you would reguarly remove?
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Jerry,
Did you ever get your car finished?????
Rex
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Yes, updates?
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i'm thinking by jerrys post back in july and said that the body would be ready to mount in two weeks................... i 'm guessing that maybe life got in the way :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
yes , i said life NOT wife.
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i'm thinking by jerrys post back in july and said that the body would be ready to mount in two weeks................... i 'm guessing that maybe life got in the way :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
yes , i said life NOT wife.
Maybe he glued his self to the foam plug?! :-D
Naw, he is around, I got a PM from him the other day.
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IIRC, Jerry put the uncompleted project up for sale a year or more ago. Was listed on this site. Whoever wound up with it got a great car; I saw it at a pre-tech at Maxton (I was doing the same with the RMR) and it was outstanding. vic
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Hi guys! I'm still hanging around, just in the back ground. As for the streamliner, unfortunately I had to sell it . My wife was diagnosed with cancer about a year ago and we put all our focus on getting her well. The medical bills got to be a little more than we could handle so I sold the car to take care of that. Good news is she is doing fine and cancer free now. I can allways build another car but can't replace her. Anybody that will put up with me for 40 years is defiantly a keeper. As soon as the finances get back to normal, I plan on starting a new car. I learned a lot from the first car and hope to build a much better streamliner. I have allready started building the wind tunnel model. I did sell the car to Jim and Mary True in California. They plan on running the car sometime this year. They currently hold records in the I/GS and I/FS classes using one of Jack Costella's cars. I wish them luck and hope to see the car set some records. As soon as I get a little more involved in my new car, I will be sure to keep everyone posted on the progress. Thanks all for your interest.
Jerry O
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You can stay busy full time answering all my questions! I hope to see the car at the salt this year.
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Hi guys! I'm still hanging around, just in the back ground. As for the streamliner, unfortunately I had to sell it . My wife was diagnosed with cancer about a year ago and we put all our focus on getting her well. The medical bills got to be a little more than we could handle so I sold the car to take care of that. Good news is she is doing fine and cancer free now. I can allways build another car but can't replace her. *snip*
Jerry O
I see nothing unfortunate and it was the right decision. May she continue life cancer free Sadly my wife lost that battle in '09. It is a place you really don't want to go.
Now, unlike many, you've proved she comes first and can start using up all your free time on the next build. Right? 8-)
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Hi guys! I'm still hanging around, just in the back ground. As for the streamliner, unfortunately I had to sell it . My wife was diagnosed with cancer about a year ago and we put all our focus on getting her well. The medical bills got to be a little more than we could handle so I sold the car to take care of that. Good news is she is doing fine and cancer free now. I can allways build another car but can't replace her. *snip*
Jerry O
I see nothing unfortunate and it was the right decision. May she continue life cancer free Sadly my wife lost that battle in '09. It is a place you really don't want to go.
Now, unlike many, you've proved she comes first and can start using up all your free time on the next build. Right? 8-)
Well said! And you get to redo all the things you didn't like from the first go around. With the car that is. Edit, I meant this towards Anvil for teh first part ans Jerry for the second. bad reply. Sorry to hear of your loss Anvil.
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Anvil...... So sorry for the loss of your wife. I can't imagine what you have gone through. I know just the thought of loosing my wife was a experience I hope to never experience again. I hope you have friends and family that has helped you get through this loss. As for the new car, I do spend all my free time getting ready to start the build.
Jerry O
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My condolences Anvil.
Jerry, will you use a ZX10 engine this time? I look forward to following your new project.
Dean
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Dean.......... My plans are about 180 degrees from my last build. I am planning on building a longer car powered by a GE gas turbine engine. The engine I am using puts out around 1500 hp at the shaft. Very reliable engine and easy to maintain. I hope to do some wind tunnel testing with the scale body and come up with a really slick and stable body shape. Good to hear from you again!
Jerry O
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Keep us posted Jerry once you get started, with lots of pictures. The last car appeared really well done and the new one sounds way more intriguing.
Pete
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*snip* I hope you have friends and family that has helped you get through this loss. As for the new car, I do spend all my free time getting ready to start the build.
Jerry O
Happens the friend who co-built my dirt-track stock car years back suggested racing therapy and more specifically Bonneville. So, I'm here for my... mmmm, health. Building and racing is a good thing.
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Yeah JO too bad you had to sell the car. I know how you feel as my dad and I worked on an airplane for about 10 years and had to sell it before it ever flew even though it was about 98% done. While its cool to know that its still flying after all these years I cant help but to be pizzed we werent able to do the maiden.
The car is so specialized its only good for one thing, clearly the new owner realized your vision.
No chance the new owner of the car wouldnt finish the build diary?
~JH
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JH........ Too bad it had to go but thats the way life is sometimes. Im not sure how often the new owners vists landracing.com but hope they do post some info on their progress. I hope to see it run this year.
Jerry O
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Jerry,
First it is great to hear that your wife is doing well, that is the absolute most important thing!! Being a survivor of the BIG "C" myself she has my thoughts and I sincerely hope she continues to do well.
Next, your thinking about a turbine streamliner: I saw the car that holds the 1/TS and the 2/TS records back in 99 (wonder what ever happen to that car?) and it was so simple and so straight forward and with 1500 hp your car could really be a charger!!! Looking forward to seeing your progress when you get started.
Rex
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Rex......... Thanks for the kind words. I decided to go with a turbine because of it's simplicity. No cooling systems or transmission to deal with. The engine I am using makes great HP and is only 14 inches in dia. This will allow me to build a very narrow car. The cost of the engine is comparable to a good mid range small block v-8. Bruce Linsmeryer is the current record holder in 1/TS and 2/TS. I talked to Bruce a while back to get his views on my build and found out his engine only puts out around 600 HP. My thinking is with double the HP and if I can get my car hooked up on the salt it should set some new records. I think the current record is a little over 227mph. Maybe if I take his record he will bring his car back out and we can have some fun with a little friendly battle.
Jerry O
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Hello Jerry,
It is nice to see you are going to build the new liner. You may recall I came by your place to check out your first liner, prior to your selling it. We had discussed several engine options for your new liner. When you get a chance please call me at (828) 526 4975, I have something to discuss with you. Ralph from Highlands, NC
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Jerry, Very glad to hear the other half is fine ! as for the turbine make SURE you can get enough air to the inlet, or it wont make power . As for hooking up think ground effects, they work
Ed :-D :-D :-D
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Ed, I am currently in the design stages of the body. The engine air intake is one of the many things I am looking at. My main focus is on getting the best shape I can, even if I have to give up a little HP. My engine will produce around 1500 hp. With 1500 hp and a frontal area of about 5.0 sq. ft I figure the car could see 400mph. Since the record I am looking at is about 227mph, I feel I can give up some hp for a better shape body. My car will have ground effects both front and rear. Traction and stability. I have a lot more testing before I decide on the shape. Not only is the intake air a issue but so is the exhaust flow. So much work and so little time.
Jerry O
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Not only is the intake air a issue but so is the exhaust flow.
Jerry O
Good to hear you're "back in town" Jerry , send the exhaust out the rear is my vote.
Dr G
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Jerry, you are to be commended that you can build this car and not finish it, sell it and STILL have folks like me interested years later! Good craftsmanship is eternal. Hope to talk to you more about my car and ESPECIALLY your turbine car down teh road. :cheers:
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Will the new owners have to car at Bonneville this year ? :?
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Ian, Sorry for the late responce to your question about the liner. I talked with the new owners Jim and Mary True the other day and was told their plans are to run the car at Speedweek this year. They still have some things to finish to be ready but they hope to be there. When they purchased the car from me it was set up to run at Maxton and Loring. For B-ville they had to make several changes. The car will be called the Truz Missile number 318. Since they will not have time to paint it, it will be in primer. I am real excited to see the car finally make a run down the track. Just wish I could be there to see it. I wish them lots of luck and hope to see a new record in their class.
Thanks..... Jerry O
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For those who are not familiar with Jim and Mary. Both are members of the Bonneville 200 MPH club. They are faces you see in the Ack Attack videos, they are major players with that team and its success.
DW
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Jerry,
You have to be pretty proud now that the Trues' have taken your car to a new "I" class record. I was able to see the car at Speedweek and it looks even better than your build pictures and the Trues' were elated with the car and its outstanding quality.
Rex
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Nice ! What is the new speed?
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Thanks Rex for the kind words. Yes I am very proud of Jim and Mary on their new record. A little sad I did not get a chance of running the car myself. Knowing their land speed racing back ground, I had no doubt about them setting some records with the car. They held the old I/GS record using one of Jack Costella's cars. I have not seen what the official speed was. Hopefully this economy will get sorted out real soon and I can get going on my new car. I learned a lot on my first build and hope the new design will be much better. Thanks again............ Jerry O