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Loring Timing Association (Maine) => Loring (AFB) land speed venue => Topic started by: greenjunk on May 26, 2009, 07:20:33 PM

Title: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: greenjunk on May 26, 2009, 07:20:33 PM
What plans are in place for oil downs, because I'm thinking there will be many?  :-D

Also what safety crews will be on site, and if something should happen, what is the nearest hospital, trauma center?  Are we going to Canada, do we need passports?  I know no one like to talk about this, but I would like to have the details for my wife, should it be neccesary.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Bob Wanner on May 26, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
 Don't know what your reasoning is that there should be many oil downs, I assume because  of the longer distance and added stress on the drivetrain ?
I have faith in our LSR crowd, they'll make any necessary alterations. 
The Limestone FD takes care of Emergency response, and  if necessary transport to nearby Caribou's Hospital.   
The Loring Timing Association track is in Maine, totally within the United States of America. Due North of the runway end about 6 or so miles is Canada,  so I'd recommend a fresh set of pads on all corners, especially if you are wanted up there.
We pattern our operation after the ECTA, our procedures for both racing and Safety are at least as stringent, especially at our inaugural event.
Relax, it's safer than the Interstate,fer sure.
BOB W ...
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: MIKE MATY on May 27, 2009, 08:21:23 PM
BINGO

http://www.carymedicalcenter.org/our-services/emergency
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: greenjunk on May 27, 2009, 11:29:24 PM
Don't know what your reasoning is that there should be many oil downs, I assume because  of the longer distance and added stress on the drivetrain ?
I have faith in our LSR crowd, they'll make any necessary alterations. 
The Limestone FD takes care of Emergency response, and  if necessary transport to nearby Caribou's Hospital.   
The Loring Timing Association track is in Maine, totally within the United States of America. Due North of the runway end about 6 or so miles is Canada,  so I'd recommend a fresh set of pads on all corners, especially if you are wanted up there.
We pattern our operation after the ECTA, our procedures for both racing and Safety are at least as stringent, especially at our inaugural event.
Relax, it's safer than the Interstate,fer sure.
BOB W ...
When it comes to safety, and racing at the speeds my vehicle travels at, I don't ever relax.
As far as the oil downs go, at least one motor a meet goes at Maxton,usually at the 3/4-1mile marker, so that could be a 3/4 mile oil down by the time the motor finally dies, then as much as a half mile to get it stopped.  Thats a lot of oil.  I've done a lot of oil dry shuffles, and have caused a few, thats the only reason why I ask.  I will be sending in my pre-entry next week, and some friends are trying to get a 2nd and possible 3rd car ready Save us some lobster :cheers:  Thanks Bob,

Dave Matyjasik
200mph "Time Bomb" Camaro
Green Hat: Check
Moose Cap: tbd...
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Warp12 on July 01, 2009, 08:17:33 AM
Don't know what your reasoning is that there should be many oil downs, I assume because  of the longer distance and added stress on the drivetrain ?
I have faith in our LSR crowd, they'll make any necessary alterations. 
The Limestone FD takes care of Emergency response, and  if necessary transport to nearby Caribou's Hospital.   
The Loring Timing Association track is in Maine, totally within the United States of America. Due North of the runway end about 6 or so miles is Canada,  so I'd recommend a fresh set of pads on all corners, especially if you are wanted up there.
We pattern our operation after the ECTA, our procedures for both racing and Safety are at least as stringent, especially at our inaugural event.
Relax, it's safer than the Interstate,fer sure.
BOB W ...

Does this mean that paramedics and fire/rescue are on site, or responding from a local dispatch? Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I'd like to verify. Thanks.

Shane
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Bob Wanner on July 01, 2009, 07:25:05 PM
The Limestone Fire Dept will have both an Ambulance and a Crash Rig type Fire Truck parked trackside during all racing.
Midway of the track, about 3800 ft north of the start, will be our clean up crew.  Most of the people on this topic thread will  be shanghaied to work this purely volunteer operation.
Bob Wanner , Conscription Officer, Aaargh...
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Glen on July 01, 2009, 07:36:45 PM
Bob, something to think about the SCTA emergency trailer has 8 JAZ products 5 gal. gas cans (large lid) that we keep filled with oil dry in, they are easy to handle and 2 or 3 can be spreading and the broom gang can follow. we also have about 10, 5 gallon buckets to put the used oil dry in.
Just something to think about and speed up clean ups.
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Bob Wanner on July 01, 2009, 10:42:27 PM
Hi Timer Guy !
As long as we're on this topic, what is the soaker-upper DuJour this year ? I've had suggestions including the usual commercial types, plus rice hulls, and off the wall suggestions that may not have been entirely serious. We are new here, want to do it right the first time, so all ideas will be considered. It's all about doing it quickly and safely, getting the surface back to speed fast. Preferably without dozens of volunteers doing that chain gang shuffle.
Glen, your input is a privilege for us , Thank You.
Bob Wanner (one of his fans)

Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Glen on July 02, 2009, 10:29:23 AM
Bob, we use standard oil sorb like kitty litter, the drag strips use rice hull on the paved track. Something to think about is a couple of weed blowers, use the 110 volt type with a small generator and 100 ft. ext cord to do the final clean up. They cost a few bucks but really speed things up after the sweep down.
Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Bob Wanner on July 02, 2009, 11:00:54 AM
I have access to three backback blowers , rated the most powerful in volume, and a lot more portable than  your average girly electrics.  Two strokes, run on race gas, ( I did learn something running my old Snowmobile motored K/GL ).
 Glen,if I get you a Gloucester fisherman slicker , would you attend ?
Bob W
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Glen on July 02, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
For fishing or racing,lol
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Chris Durepo on July 19, 2009, 09:15:51 PM
Hi Bob and to all racers head north soon to Loring. I am a full time firefighter/EMT at the Loring station. We are planning to do some additional training in the upcoming weeks that I am organizing. I’m wondering if you could give me a call so we could discuses what types of roll cage, metals and fuels we will be seeing at the track. Our guys area super stoked to have such a great event in our town and can’t wait to see turnout. Call the Loring station 207-328-4108 and they will give you my cell number.
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: narider on July 20, 2009, 05:20:40 PM
Hi Chris,
Always good to hear from fire & rescue personnel before they are needed... you're our favorite people we hope not to meet (at least not in an impromptu manner).

Excellent that you want to know more about the things you can run across if your needed, I'm sure we all commend you on that alone.

I spoke with Jesse at the station but he said they didn't have your number and gave me the Dev. Auth. number, where no one picked up.

I would like to talk to you briefly about the motorcyclist's end of things (and also help direct you to proper answers if you have questions on anything bike related).

You can call me at 540-657-8481 and ask for Todd (let whoever answers know it's race related, or leave your number if you get the recorder and I'll be glad to call you back on my dime).
 
Thanks for joining the forum here and speaking up... without you, we don't race!
Todd
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Joe Timney on July 20, 2009, 06:28:57 PM
Chris,
You can call me at my shop 9 to 5 daily. 302.378.3013 EST I can answer all tubing questions.
Joe Timney
President
ECTA
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Lauren O on July 20, 2009, 06:38:13 PM
President hmmm......President of the cleanup crew... :mrgreen:

Love You Joey !!
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: half-fast on July 20, 2009, 06:52:56 PM
Hi Chris,

I too wanted to jump in here and say thanks for inquiring about issues, and training for them, whilst simultaneously we all collectively hope that the skills will never have to be put to use.

That being said, Todd is a great authority for motorcycle related questions and Bob & Joe for 'cars' so I am sure you will get all the info you need in regard to construction, materials, and fuels.

Being familiar with the operating side of a Hurst and Holmatro cutting/prying tool, I have contemplated what would be the best way to get someone out of an enclosed cockpit, and for this I can just recommend coming to the track on Friday while vehicles are being 'tech inspected' to get a sense of the operators body position, cockpit layouts etc.

Just my two cents


Hi Bob and to all racers head north soon to Loring. I am a full time firefighter/EMT at the Loring station. We are planning to do some additional training in the upcoming weeks that I am organizing. I’m wondering if you could give me a call so we could discuses what types of roll cage, metals and fuels we will be seeing at the track. Our guys area super stoked to have such a great event in our town and can’t wait to see turnout. Call the Loring station 207-328-4108 and they will give you my cell number.
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: Matt Beil on July 29, 2009, 06:17:34 PM
Hello everyone.  Thank you Chris, I see that you have been in here keeping these guys informed.

My name is Matt, I will be the paramedic on duty this weekend. I am a fire fighter/paramedic for Limestone Fire Department on Loring.  I want to build a little bit on what Chris has brought to the forum in terms of fire and emergency crews.  We had a meeting on Monday night and fine tuned our agenda for this weekend.  It is now official that there will be both an emergency crew and a fire crew.  Expect an EMT, a Paramedic, and a rig for the entire duration of the racing events.  Also expect 3 on duty fire fighters and a minimum of an engine and rescue truck that houses all of our extrication and rescue equipment.  Remember that this is a minimum, we will also have Crown Ambulance covering the event.  This will be the service transporting anyone to the hospital that requires an ER visit and beyond.  Though, this is what we do; we are hoping that everyone has a safe ride and will not ever see the back of an ambulance.  In the event that this can not be avoided, rest assured that we have more than enough resources to get the job done.  On the fire/rescue side, All of our on duty fire fighters are EMT's or above. Other than the guaranteed engine and rescue truck, additional fire apparatus is about 1/2 mile away.  The on duty fire fighters and Volunteer fire fighters will be having a meeting at Loring on Friday at 6:00 PM.  We also expect to get a look at some of the race vehicles we will be encountering.  We look forward to meeting with you and wish everyone a safe weekend.

If anyone has any questions, don't hesitate on Contacting Chris or myself.  Call Loring Fire Station at 207-328-4108.  I will post a notice there to let the other fire fighters know that it is acceptable to give my Cell # out to anyone calling from the LTA should you call when I am not there.

Matt Beil
Title: Re: Safety and Cleanup
Post by: DahMurf on July 29, 2009, 06:38:43 PM
Excellent! It sounds like you folks have put a lot of thought into this! I've had the opportunity to visit the back of an ambulance while Land Speed Racing and I have to say I find a lot of comfort in the fact that you are thinking this through ahead of time! My hubby Todd has spoken with Chris at length and we look forward to meeting him and now yourself at the track. We're motorcycle folk and will be happy to help you out in any way we can to help get you familiar with what you may encounter in regards to the bikes.
Debbie & Todd Dross