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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: hitz on May 21, 2009, 01:13:50 AM
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I've been trying to post picures here for two months without success may this will work instead.
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harvey
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The first one worked for me. looking very nice. Great stuff.
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Thanks Rich
Harvey
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Harvey:
It came up as a slide show for me and while the pictures were very clear they unfortunately passed to quickly to look at all the details. Glad to see it's nearing completion. Looks like a very nice build.
Good luck. Go fast safely and have fun!
Pete
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Came up a slide show for me, clicked on see album at the end and then I could click on the pictures one at a time to study.
Nice work, hope I can get to study it in person and see it run in the near future.
Ed
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I've been trying to post picures here for two months .....
Hi Harvey;
..go to your album
..copy the "IMG" code for the particular picture you want in your post
..paste it into your post
And:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn265/hitzaina/008.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn265/hitzaina/019.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn265/hitzaina/014.jpg)
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Harvey do you have any picts of your inside wheel discs construction---I went to you album on Sums and didn't find any refrence. thanks Sparky
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Not Positive but isn't #72 a Ferguson racing number? I remember it on seniors old hiboy roadster. Great pics and beautiful work.........................JD
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Octane,
Thanks for trying to help on posting pictures. I've tried what you suggest but it just won't do anything when I click on POST.
Sparky,
I'll look for pictures but it's easy on the F-100 spindles. The 4 bolts that held the backing plate on and now the steering arm are extra long and have enough thread to tighten the steering arms (Grade 8 here and locktite), make spacers or use washers to position the inner covers to the wheel and install a NY-Lock nut. I used .090 5052 aluminum for the covers.
Jimmy Six,
The #72 was a Ferguson racing number in years past. It belonged to someone else for awhile and he let it expire. I was lucky to get it! I hope I can do the 2-digit number proud.
Harvey
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Harvey,
It looks fantastic! Great to see it ready to run! Really looking forward to seeing you at Bonneville.
Rex
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090 thanks
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Now the Fergs. run #76 another historical number :-D
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'76 boy I guess!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Question:
On your return line:
(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/harvey/11-14-7-3.jpg)
Do you have a tube on the inside of the tank? I'm thinking that the returned fuel could have air bubbles in it and would get stucked into the feed line. If you don't have a tube, would you be able to use one with a 90* bend on it to shoot it away from the feed port? Just a thought.
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Justin,
There is a 3/8 line that returns the fuel to the back if the tank.
Thanks, it is a concern.
Harvey
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No problem. We had similar problem with the dragster. There is a huge vent on the top of the fuel tank and a tube that runs the length of the tank with each end going into there end of the tank. About 1000' it would start mixing up cylinders and killing the pump. About 4 racks of pistons and three pumps later, we figured out that the venting air was pushing it's way into the fuel line going to the pump on the top end of the track.
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I put some saftey foam in mine so that they should seperate out.
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Hey Harv
great stuff , looking forward to seeing the results in September ...........you know I'd been wondering why the price of brown paint had gone up...........
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Hey Harv
great stuff , looking forward to seeing the results in September ...........you know I'd been wondering why the price of brown paint had gone up...........
Dr. G,
Glad to see you noticed the brown paint! Think UPS will like it and sponsor me?
I've been tuning up the body work on the lakester and have decided it's almost good enough to be good enough. There are about 25 panels on this car! :roll: The painting will start next week. I built and installed a NACA duct for the intake last week and made a catch tank for the differential. Got the chute release done (whats a done), I forgot to put a safety stop on it :oops:.
See where you have started to get ready for your next run. Good idea. I wish you an enjoyable time working on the tank.
Harv
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Closer------closer. It's very close to being able to load. I have to get more computer work done with the Tech II. The raw fuel curve is still rich. Looks like I might have time to finish up the intake cooling and get the hubcaps on.
There are more pictures on photo bucket. I've given up try to post here.
http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn265/hitzaina/?mediafilter=images
Harv
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hey Harv
was trippin on your pix site and have one small suggestion..... your elect off is a "pull".... if the chute risers start dancing they could accidentally pull your power off..... if you can switch the switch to a "push" for off, it would solve that problem....actually it is better to "hit" or "push" an emergency devise than to have too locate, grab, and pull a devise off.... I feel the same way on fire bottle knobs... never liked the pull setup.... just a suggestion...
Kent
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UhOh.............Dancing chute risers!! Never gave that a thought. I'll look at that and see if I can change it. It will be difficult because it has a long 1/2" square tube control rod and it felt more positive pulling than pushing. Been pulling wrenchs for so long I don't feel comfy pushing on things, well most things.
Thanks for your concern. Are you going to run your streamliner at Speedweek? Hope to see you there.
Vista is my home town, along with my dad and grand dad. I left in 1953.
Harv
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There are more pictures on photo bucket. I've given up try to post here.
http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn265/hitzaina/?mediafilter=images
Harv
Is this what you wanted to post? Good looking car, can't wait to see it on the salt!
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Thanks Mike,
Please stop by if you get a chance I'll be pitting with 3 other cars from the Redding area. #160 a new C/GMR, #803 A/FRMR 2cd outing and #204 C/GCC for his 3rd outing. It should be an interesting Speedweek for us!
I'm one of those guys with no data, no opinion but plenty of optimism that it will be fun! It'll be test and tune.
Hope I get a look at that beautiful roadster of yours.
Harv
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Hey Harv..
Yep got the 'liner entered..... we'll see if she'll give a 300+ time slip this year..... everything i've been touching lately has been turning to crap so i'm kinda fraid to touch it..... how bout you? gonna have her out this year?
kent
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Hey Harv,
Your lakester looks great and has come a LONG way since the last pictures I saw of it. Great job!!! I will make sure that my pops, brother, and I stop by to say hello. :cheers:
P.S.
Besides we would like to view our competition of that C/GMR :-D
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Kent,
Yes, It's get to make it first runs. No serious record run but it will be good enough to see what we have and how much we have to go to be competitive. I'd like to get it on a chassis dyno but don't think thats going to happen. See you there.
Ryan,
Looking forward to meeting you all.
Harv
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Great looking lakester, one question though. I thought that the officials frowned upon white vehicles on the salt, are you going to add a little color to it before bonneville? :cheers:
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bvillercr,
Picures do lie. Its a lite tan (beige on the can). Accents will come later.The numbers are large :lol:
Harv
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Great looking lakester, one question though. I thought that the officials frowned upon white vehicles on the salt, are you going to add a little color to it before bonneville? :cheers:
Officials do frown on white cars but even if this lakester was white I don't think they would have much of an issue because it is a pretty big car, the tires are outside the body and it has big orange numbers. It's the real small cars with the wheels and tires tucked in that have a tendancy to dissapear.
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For general information when I bought the Temple Roadster a few years ago it was painted Red. I asked Greg Temple why it was painted Red and not the White I remembered. He said the officials were giving him a hard time when it was white, so he painted it Red. It had big numbers as well as exposed wheels.
Tom G.
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I used to love to watch that car and I never had any trouble seeing it. Of course there was a lot of noise associated with the car to help track it. Whenever I would bring first timers to the salt I would always point out temples roadster when it was at the starting line and tell them this car is either going to go really fast, or round and round. Great car to watch
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Great looking lakester, one question though. I thought that the officials frowned upon white vehicles on the salt, are you going to add a little color to it before bonneville? :cheers:
This problem goes back to November 19 1937. Quoting out of THE LAND SPEED RECORD book ''During a series of trials with the THUNDERBOLT the new 'electric eye' recording apparatus failed to register the car as it flashed through the mile. Calmly, Captain Easton suggested that the combination of the blazing sun, the silver fusalage of the aluminum car, and the blinding whiteness of the salt were to blame.
Less than a year later, Captain Easton returned to Bonneville, sporting a matt black arrow painted each side of the 7-ton car to overcome the problem of visual recording.''
He did set a record that year of 312.00 mph and 345.50 the next year August 27 1938.
JL222 :cheers:
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Harv,
So great to see your car completed, all of the work to get the endless list of details done so that it is ready and doing most of it (all?) by yourself is very admirable. Can't wait to see you at the salt.
Rex
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Over the years SCTA has spent a lot of money on photo cells/sensors to assure we don't miss any times. The final answers to the now used cells are made by Banner. The last two years we never missed a time on any vehicle except the ones that ran over the cells or spun across the wires.
As I stated earlier we are about 1000 feet from the course and the small, bikes, cars and streamliners are a problem to see until they start the first timer at the 2-1/4 mile. We are at the 3 mile and to see a small vehicle that is light in color adds to the problem even for the crews trying to find it.
Once they enter into the middle (4th) mile it is up to the stewards to keep us updated on all courses. Keeping up with the 3 courses requires some very dedicated volunteers to be on top on everything going on.
If you sat in my seat for as many years as I have you would understand why we ask for certain things in the rule book including a good mobile CB that has an out side antenna and we can talk to the crews in the push vehicles and keep everyone on the lake bed (salt flats ) as to whats going on.
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Glen,
If you have trouble seeing my car let me know. I'll bring some rattle cans to remedy that. I just thought it wouldn't be much fun to sit in a completely enclosed dark car getting ready to run. Maybe next year I'll have a air conditioner to keep this old boy cool. Hope to see you at salt talks.
Harv
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Well Speedweek 2009 is history.
We've lost a racer that was from my little town and was no doubt the most important thing that happened at this Speedweek. I didn't know Barry personally
but had gone to his dad Tom Bryant for advice before I started to build the lakester. God speed, Barry.
We made it to the salt flats on Aug 6th and lined up for inspection in a heavy wind. We made it to the new car inspection slot and were told not to pull any panels. Then they asked us to take the car back to our pit. They were afraid the canopy was going to fly and beat the cars up. I didn't argue. They promised me I would be allowed to go to the front of the line the next day. They made that promise good.
Michael Stewart and Doug Macmillan were my inspectors and Bill (one of the starters) helped me with the restraints and clausaphobic tendencies. Should have built a roadster. The car passed as is with a few recommendations in the log book. I hung out in the inspection area all one day in 2006 and am still amazed at geniality and helpfulness of the inspectors.
I arrived at the salt with a fever and some kind of flu but antibotics were doing their job and the fever left. Not too perky but determined to take that first ride. The rookie pass was done slowly (in the 70's) and the pilot chute couldn't pull the main chute out because of the slow speed. The course worker asked me if I had pulled the chute. I told him I had. When I got out I saw the pilot chute on the ground by itself. Didn't feel to cool about that but the starter signed it off and said I had done everything that was required.
The car was running lean and I enrichened it up with the laptop. It continued to run lean through the next 6 runs although it helped the air/fuel ratio each time I enrichened it. It was too little too late. I killed the little Saturn on the 7th run. I got to 144.8 but just could not get that last 6 mph. for a license upgrade.
The car ran true although 200 mph speeds would have been a much better test.
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that was a breakfast call.
Although the first run for the car could have gone a lot better, I still feel that it was a success and pointed out a lot of need for improvement. After the fact it's easy to see some things like going to full rich and leaning out a little at a time! Shifting was difficult and needs major improvement. Some controls in the cockpit need to be repositioned. The new G-Force arm restraints when fully shortened should be a inch shorter. The heavy rings and snaps flop around when exiting the cockpit chipping paint, banging on instruments and looking for something to hang up on. However they have the proper SFI rating and date. Go figure!
All in all, it was a fun experience and driving the car was a lot more enjoyable than I imagined! See you next year.
Harvey
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Harvey:
You are an inspiration to all of us young guys :mrgreen: who have yet to turn a wheel on the salt. :cheers:
Mike
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Congratulations Harvey---new cars can be slow to reveal their wants and needs---might we see you at EL M first!!!!!!!! It still amazes me that we are able to get these things down the track---we canged ECUs this year and had NOISE issues---go figure!!!!!!!!!! RPM limited to 7000 instead of 8000!!!!!!!!
I sure understand why so many like Mags, tachs, oil and water guages ONLY!!!!!!!
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Building a new car or bike and taking it to the track the first time begins stage two of the vihicle. The inspection is step one, setting in line for the first check out run can make a long day. Getting fired up and being pushed off you try to remember everything you were told is a whirlwind inside your head. Going through the timing lights and remembering which way to turn out and getting to the return road is just another step. Waiting for the crew and the words and speed takes forever.
The rest of the day hs much conversation, note taking and checking out the vehicle. It will be hard to sleep that night and the night seems to last for many more hours. The next morning you repeat the process and are allowed to increase your speed for the next license upgrade.
On the way home the conservation goes on for many hours. You get home usually very tired and face all of the clean up, checking out everything and make a lot of changes they put in the log book. Oh, don't put it off it's 11 months to the next speed week. Oh ! congrats on the first time down the long black line.
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I agree with Glen.
Building a new car is NOT easy, and getting the car to the salt and making your first pass is AMAZING! Last year was our first experience with a brand new car that we had built, and we also wanted to try and get in the 200 MPH range. Well, as you know that is a very difficult thing to do. With a new car there are so many things that need to be checked after each run. This makes it difficult to just "throw the car back in line" for another pass. You should be proud that you built something and made a run with it at the salt! That is an accomplishment in itself! It might take awhile to work out all the bugs on a new car, (I know that we are still working on some) but you will get to where you want to be.
Congratulations on making your first pass down the salt with something that YOU built! :cheers:
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Harvey;
Congratulations on your first run in your new car. Your description of it has me psyched up to get back to work on my car!
Regards, Neil Tucson, Az