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Title: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 23, 2009, 09:38:54 AM
We can't let Charles have all the fun building this winter, so I decided to build a new shop too!
I am currently working out of a 20 X 23 shop built onto the house, but I'm already outgrowing it with my motorcycle projects. Here is a pic of the clean fresh shop when we moved in in May of '08.

(http://www.frsengineering.com/shycreekvineyards.com/nh246.jpg)

I already have it full with my current bike build.

Joe Daly and I are planning a small belly tank build in the future, so I have decided to put up a 30 X 40 pole barn to use as a new shop and storage shed. I will make the door big enough to park my race trailer inside. We started building the pole barn last week...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb12.jpg)



Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: relaxedfit on January 23, 2009, 11:56:06 AM
The bike on the left looks a lot like a Triumph. I'd love to see it down here.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 23, 2009, 01:24:20 PM
The bike on the left looks a lot like a Triumph. I'd love to see it down here.

It's a 2006 Triumph Scrambler and it's for sale. Pics can be seen here: http://www.frsengineering.com/Triumph.htm
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: relaxedfit on January 23, 2009, 05:11:16 PM
Did that idiot say left? Must have been on line at work---not working.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 24, 2009, 07:05:34 PM
We got some more work done on the new shop today. A crane will be on site Monday morning to hoist the remaining roof trusses

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb14.jpg)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 55chevr on January 24, 2009, 08:32:21 PM
Impressive ... where's the snow?    Joe
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on January 24, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
Joe, if you think he needs snow -- maybe I should send him some of ours.  Here's a photo of our new garage:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 55chevr on January 24, 2009, 10:13:26 PM
Slim,

You may have to shovel off the roof ... it may not bear the load and collapse .

Joe
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 24, 2009, 11:08:10 PM
Snow?? Is that the white stuff in Jon's pic? :-D

Didn't I tell you Joe, I live in the Bannana belt of Southern Illinois 8-)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: bearingburner on January 24, 2009, 11:43:19 PM
Must be nice to be able to work outside in the end of January. About 24" of snow on the ground here in W. Mass with wind chill predicted to be -15 F tomorrow. This probably would seem like spring conditions to Slim.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Roadster943 on January 25, 2009, 12:35:37 AM

   Slim  It looks like you would get more time to use a snow machine than your motorcycles. :-)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 25, 2009, 09:03:17 AM
Jon, that sure looks pretty there. Do you have snowmobiles?
It looks like you could use one of these up there...

(http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/5614_11050625329.jpg)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on January 25, 2009, 11:01:14 AM
In regards to shoveling the snow off the roof -- yes, it's not uncommon at all.  Read our newspaper's want ads and you'll see more than a few folks advertising that they'll  shovel roofs.  But -- we do know that snow load is a hazard up here, and at least one company -- a few miles up U S 41 from us -- uses that as part of their raison d'ete.  Here's a link to Skandia Truss company.  Look at the site and you'll see what I mean: http://www.skandiatruss.com/

As for the ski/cycle -- Ben, a mechanic that does our heavy duty truck work, rides a Ski-Doo whatever-it's-called cycle like that.  He says it is way more fun and exciting than riding a regular snowmobile.  I don't ride either kind of snow machine -- just the various snow removal tools that I keep at my disposal.  Here's one:

http://www.nancyandjon.org/images/nancy_plow.jpg

And you've all seen my Oshkosh, and I've also got the Bobcat skidsteer with a Boss power V-plow (which skidsteer I used for an hour or two at the office yesterday.  It's a blast -- heated enclosed cab, turbo diesel engine, spins in its own length so is wonderfully maneuverable).  Snow isn't all that bad -- it just takes the correct attitude to live with it.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Cajun Kid on January 25, 2009, 08:11:37 PM
Glad to see another shop going up... It was as fun sharring my shop build as it was the car build...

Good luck and keep us posted.

Charles
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 26, 2009, 07:45:52 PM
Made a lot of progress today. We set the trusses and installed most of the rafters and supports. I had about 12 ton of rock/dust mix delivered and spread it with the old 8N...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb15.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb16.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb18.jpg)

Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 27, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
Building has stopped for a few days here. Although it looks like snow, it's not. Ice has been falling all night. If you pick up a handful, it looks like little tiny ball bearings. I don't even leave footprints in it when I walk on it!

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb20.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb21.jpg)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 55chevr on January 27, 2009, 08:07:46 PM
Randy,
Is this your first winter away from So Cal?

Joe
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 27, 2009, 10:57:19 PM
Randy,
Is this your first winter away from So Cal?

Joe

This is my second winter here Joe. I worked outside all last winter building the new house and it wasn't too bad at all.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: narider on January 27, 2009, 11:24:59 PM
Nice bike pad you got going Randy... nice choices and setup going on there  :cheers:
Todd
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on January 29, 2009, 09:29:55 AM
Thanks Todd, I appreciate the comments. We started building the house in Oct 07 and moved in May 08. Between my LSR racing/building and maintaining/improving the property, I'm glad I'm retired since those have been full time jobs.

I have been posting the shop build since there doesnt seem to be much going on in the ECTA section. I was intrigued by the steakhouse story but the real facts were a slight let down from the myth...ya know, no arrests, no chases or fights...LOL (jk :-D)

Why don't you post that vid of your new dyno in action?

Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: narider on February 05, 2009, 02:50:10 PM
Hope you're back at it Randy, can't wait to see your new shop all finished up so we can see more of the twin (and the lakester start to take shape).
Btw... congrats to you, but the only retiring I think I'm going to be doing is on those bikes that have a bald one.  :wink: 
Good chat the other day, :cheers:
Todd

PS: I made a post here since you asked about the video... http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,5482.0.html
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 05, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
Thanks Todd, I think we will be back at it tomorrow :-P. Thanks for all the info in our chat, I hope you don't mind me picking your brain some more on my v-twin build :wink:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 17, 2009, 03:30:28 PM
The weather hasn't been cooperating lately, so our shop building project has been delayed. We had a few good days without wind, so we got some things done. Hauling the long pieces of steel onto the roof requires very calm winds along with the matching length insulation that goes on first. We got some more carpentry work done and about 3/4 of the roof installed before we had to pull off today when the wind picked up...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb22.jpg)
http://www.frsengineering.com/pb22.jpg

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb23.jpg)
http://www.frsengineering.com/pb23.jpg

We will probably be back at it in a couple of days.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 1 fast evo 2 on February 17, 2009, 04:14:50 PM
That's startin to look real nice. I am so jealous of you. I can only think that great things will come out of this new shop.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 17, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
Thanks, one of the carpenters helping me just got back from Chicago yesterday. He said there's still snow on the ground up there, brrrr :wink: You're welcome to stop by here anytime you head South  :cheers:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 17, 2009, 08:38:28 PM
Randy -- if you're going "brrrr" at a whole inch of snow on the ground -- what'd you do if your forecast included the following -- especially if you lived, as we do, in the higher terrain around Skandia (Michigan)?  here's what I just copied and pasted from the Weather Service forecast for tonight and tomorrow for us:

 TOTAL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF 10 TO 18 INCHES ARE
POSSIBLE FROM THIS STORM...GREATEST OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN FROM
NEGAUNEE TO SKANDIA...

Now, see?  An inch of snow isn't that bad, is it?  Then here's the Wednesday/Wednesday night forecast:

Wednesday: Snow and widespread blowing snow. Temperature falling to around 18 by 5pm. Wind chill values between zero and 10. Blustery, with a north northwest wind 7 to 10 mph increasing to between 25 and 28 mph. Winds could gust as high as 39 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 4 to 6 inches possible.

Wednesday Night: Snow showers and widespread blowing snow. Low around 6. Wind chill values between -5 and -15. Windy, with a north northwest wind around 30 mph, with gusts as high as 43 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 6 to 9 inches possible.

There.  Feel better now?

Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 17, 2009, 10:07:08 PM
I feel like I live in the "Bannana Belt" after looking at your forecast Jon LOL. Seriously, I'm originally from Tucson with past residences in Florida and Northern and Southern Cal. This four seasons stuff is new to me 8-)

Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: salt27 on February 17, 2009, 10:25:52 PM
Jon,
Portlands Thursday forcast, high 57, low 37, 10% precipitation.
Not great, but warmer than Skandia. :-D
See you there.

Don
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: t russell on February 18, 2009, 08:25:39 PM
Jon that just sucks :-D
terry
And give Nancy a hug
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 18, 2009, 09:03:16 PM
Nah, Terry, the weather isn't that big of a deal.  And -- no mosquitoes for months at a time, and no need for air conditioning during the summer.  I enjoy the snow removal, too -- sitting on the big snow thrower gives a sense of accomplishment. . .

Whatever, hey?
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 23, 2009, 02:38:01 PM
Well, down here in the bannana belt  :roll: we have had clear weather with no wind, so we have been able to get more siding installed today...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb24.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb25.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb26.jpg)

We should be done with the building shell in a couple of days.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: John Noonan on February 23, 2009, 02:45:39 PM
Randy,

Looks great, will you be able to park the trailer inside..?


John
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Glen on February 23, 2009, 03:21:14 PM
John, to bad your yard is so small.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: John Noonan on February 23, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
Glen,

You are so right... :wink:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 23, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
Randy,

Looks great, will you be able to park the trailer inside..?


John

Thanks John. Yes, room for the trailer inside was a first thought when building the new shop. We lined it up with the driveway and made the door 10ft tall to accomodate the trailer...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb30.jpg)

It will be nice to get it out of the weather and away from the front of the small shop...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb31.jpg)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: t russell on February 23, 2009, 04:18:26 PM
very nice
terry
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 23, 2009, 11:07:31 PM
Thanks Terry.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: lvsalt on February 23, 2009, 11:39:26 PM
Very Nice :cheers:
I need one a my house
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 25, 2009, 03:22:23 PM
Very Nice :cheers:
I need one a my house

Thanks, I don't think I will ever say I have too much storage/work space :-D.

The outside shell is complete. The new gutters will be installed next week and I have about 60 ton of rock/dust mix scheduled for delivery that will be spread inside to level the floor. I will probably spend the next 6-10 months finishing off the inside, but at least I have a place to start the lakester build as we find parts...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb32.jpg)
http://www.frsengineering.com/pb32.jpg

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb33.jpg)
http://www.frsengineering.com/pb33.jpg

Now it's time to get back to the bike build :cheers:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Geo on February 25, 2009, 04:42:09 PM
Wow Randy!

Great job on the shop!

Geo
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 26, 2009, 09:01:11 AM
Thanks Geo :-D
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: sabat on February 26, 2009, 08:16:44 PM
Beautiful, I'm jealous. I could live in that :D
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 27, 2009, 12:09:36 AM
Beautiful, I'm jealous. I could live in that :D

Hmmm, how much space do you need and how much rent could you pay...hmmmm :wink:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 1212FBGS on February 27, 2009, 03:03:43 AM
whats a gutter and why do you need them?
kent
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: hawkwind on February 27, 2009, 03:55:52 AM
whats a gutter and why do you need them?
kent

For furthering your  education ,Kent , a "gutter" at least in Australia is a metal or plastic U shaped channel that is placed around the roof line to collect water run off and channel it to a down pipe , It can also be the prefered residence of drunks and bums after a night on the turps . :cheers:
from your best mate  :-P
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 55chevr on February 27, 2009, 05:26:43 AM
you will have to excuse Kent ... "It never rains in California" ... Joe
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on February 27, 2009, 09:10:33 AM
whats a gutter and why do you need them?
kent

It's where I keep my mind these days Kent, I'd be lost with out them :wink: Now that I have the space built...I need a belly tank...hint...hint :-D
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 03, 2009, 12:17:30 PM
The floor of the new shop is just dirt now and not level...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb35.jpg)
http://www.frsengineering.com/pb35.jpg

I have 60 ton of crushed rock/dust mix to build up and level the floor with the old Ford tractor...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb34.jpg)
http://www.frsengineering.com/pb34.jpg

The floor will stay this way until the taxman has appraised the property. After that I will add concrete floors as needed.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Cajun Kid on March 04, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
Wow,,, nice job on the build,,,  Keep us posted as you move in.

Charles
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 07, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Thanks Charles, I will. I hope to be able to install on of these this summer...

(http://www.bendpak.com/images/product_images/225.jpg)
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 07, 2009, 01:04:07 PM
The gutters have been installed and about 60 ton of base material has been spread inside and out of the new barn. I will top off the outside material with 3/4 inch clean rock next week. I still have to trench the electrical line to the shop from the end of the main electrical conduit run that's at the white bucket in the first pic...

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb36.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb37.jpg)

(http://www.frsengineering.com/pb38.jpg)

Next will be lights, switches and outlets.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: manta22 on March 07, 2009, 04:32:43 PM
No insulation, Charles?

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 07, 2009, 04:38:47 PM
It's a work in progress Neil. Eventually the walls and ceiling will be insulated. I will install the ceiling first since I have a 30 inch exhaust fan I want to add. That's why the gable vents were installed. I plan on painting the new bike and lakester in there.

Randy
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 07, 2009, 06:44:01 PM
Randy, now that it's sorta too late -- here's something I think you should have installed.  I've got three or four pole buildings -- and each has translucent fiberglass panels installed high up the side walls to let in diffused light.  It's enough that you can see where you're going during the day, although you'll still want to turn on the lights to do any work, and also the diffusers mean that you won't have direct sunlight making things inside fade.

Bonus:  When you are leaving for the night and all frustrated and forget to turn off the lights -- you'll see that they're still on when you look at the building.

Not too late -- you could cut slots in the side walls and put in some of the plastic.  In my buildings it's 20-30 feet long (different sizes for different length buildings).

Best wishes -- and isn't it great to have the new place?  I'm still outfitting my new garage - and having a ball.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: manta22 on March 07, 2009, 06:50:21 PM
Charles;

I suspected that you just hadn't added the insulation yet. It sure makes a shop more "liveable" to have good insulation in the walls and roof.

Paint the concrete floor a bright color-- it makes the interior brighter and you can find small parts when they fall on the floor.  :-D

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 07, 2009, 11:40:18 PM
Jon, the roof is insulated between the rafters and the top metal. I'm also gonna put in a ceiling with a large 30 inch fan that draws air from the inside of the building and blows it through the "attic" area and out the gable vents. It keeps the building much cooler in the summer and quickly evacuates engine exhaust, welding smoke and paint spray/fumes. The roof lights wouldn't help me much with a ceiling. That's why I put in six large windows.

I am looking forward to outfitting the shop after all the work is done. I still have much to do before that with the ceiling and inside walls to be done.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 08, 2009, 07:20:17 PM
Here's what I did.  You can see (barely) the light-colored panels at the top of the side wall.  No worry about the ceiling.  Best wishes with the new building however it gets built -- it's just what YOU wanted.

Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 08, 2009, 07:39:32 PM
Looks nice Jon, thanks. What's all that white stuff? :roll:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 08, 2009, 08:10:55 PM
Oh, Randy, that's what falls out of the sky up here -- during October.  I spent about a half-hour yesterday with the Bobcat (skidsteer) plowing in front of the building (well, actually, the other building -- I've got two side-by-each) so I can get the doors open soon.  A customer wants his RV out by the 21st -- so I started moving the drifted/fallen snow pile -- about five feet deep. BF SNOW!
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 55chevr on March 08, 2009, 09:04:13 PM
Randy / Jon ///  66 degrees on Long Island today ... faux spring ?
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: theazoldcrow on March 08, 2009, 10:40:02 PM
 8-)76 and overcast here in Mammoth, Az.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 08, 2009, 11:18:36 PM
Mammoth AZ, that sure does bring back memories  :-D I used to do a lot of riding, hunting and cave exploring around there. I grew up in Tucson :cheers: Wasn't there a cave on the backside of the Catalina mtns...can't remember the name...peppersauce or something like that??

Joe faux spring here too...77 degrees

The snow looks nice Jon, glad we don't have as much here.
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on March 09, 2009, 12:33:32 AM
Snowed in Portland again today (extremely rare for March) and maybe a little more by tomorrow morning.  Third highest seasonal snowfall on record.  It's been much colder than average and I believe we're about 8" of rainfall short of average for the rain year (starts 1 Oct).

Mike
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: theazoldcrow on March 09, 2009, 01:04:12 PM
Rchop!  The Peppersauce camp ground is still there.  We do alot of 4 wheelin, anytime everywhere.  If ya get to the Elmo May meet look me up at Willie and Sheri's pit,  or The Old Crow Speed Shop pit, we'll swat some flies and tell some lies.   Crow
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: Rchop on March 09, 2009, 01:46:36 PM
Rchop!  The Peppersauce camp ground is still there.  We do alot of 4 wheelin, anytime everywhere.  If ya get to the Elmo May meet look me up at Willie and Sheri's pit,  or The Old Crow Speed Shop pit, we'll swat some flies and tell some lies.   Crow

If I can get Kent to make me a belly tank, I will be coming out in the spring to pick it up. Timing that with an Elmo meet would be great, I'll keep it on the back burner  :cheers:
Title: Re: Another new shop...
Post by: bearingburner on March 09, 2009, 02:32:09 PM
In he high 50's here in W. Mass. this weekend. Snowing today2+ in. new on ground to go with the 12 in. old