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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: wilcox garage on December 18, 2008, 03:13:01 AM
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(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville080.jpg) this is the start of our street roadster after we Put together the American stamping 32 rails(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville012.jpg)here it is almost ready to put on the ground. (http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville022.jpg)(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville029.jpg)(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville026.jpg)(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville061.jpg)the next three shots are 5 days before the start of speedweek 07(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville109.jpg)(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville118.jpg)(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville122.jpg) we made it through tech on sunday to make our first run on monday morning.(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville132.jpg)(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville136.jpg) made 9 runs through the rest of the week got my rookie runs in , made it up to my B license,qualified the car to run the long course,and also got to experience a roadster spin at 176 mph it was a great week . Now the car is under a little change to make it get hooked up a little better and paint some of that bare metal, the salt was not to friendly.(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo123/142bstr/blowersatbville141.jpg)
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Nice job..What`s next to it in the first pic.? :-)
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Nice Job, looks really great. All untreated surfaces will assume an oxidized surface.... :-)
Spin at 176? most of them don't spin until 180 :| OK, just kidding... I didn't notice any ballast or where the weight was biased.
Did you have some extra weight anywhere? Some friends of ours from CO spun almost every run at the same speed until they figured out where to put an extra 100 lbs of weight.
Nice car
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Nice job..What`s next to it in the first pic.? :-)
Its a 68 camaro convertable, it is one of my brothers customers cars undergoing a complete resto.I was wrong that is the 65 mustang convertable also a customers car.
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Nice Job, looks really great. All untreated surfaces will assume an oxidized surface.... :-)
Spin at 176? most of them don't spin until 180 :| OK, just kidding... I didn't notice any ballast or where the weight was biased.
Did you have some extra weight anywhere? Some friends of ours from CO spun almost every run at the same speed until they figured out where to put an extra 100 lbs of weight.
Nice car
First off thanks, it was a lot of work, at first we thought it was going to be easy just a simple roadster project. I got in over my head but with a lot of help we got it close. it doesn't show in the pics but we had 300 lbs of ballast on each side of the driveline/transmission area, and then another 200 lbs where the passenger would usually sit. without the weight it weighed in at 2650, after the ballast 3450 and when we scaled it we were within 45lbs+- per wheel. After the spin we filled the rear water tank [about 15 gallons],took a little gear out , rolled the caster back another couple degrees, and turned the toe in a turn. that seemed to help but it was still a handfull. We took 08 off from competing so we are changing a few things to make it better and try to actually finish the car before it comes back out.
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Which procharger is that, nice build
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Nice car. I am sure you did but just is case check it for square, and check the circumference of the tires. I run 60 psi in one rear and 70 in the other. Good luck Vince
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Which procharger is that, nice build
Its an F2 , I bought it from a friend who never used it on his drag car . Its to big for the 291 ci, so we just turned it down with the pulleys ,we are only spinning it at 35,000 to get 19 psi at sea level. Thanks.
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Nice car. I am sure you did but just is case check it for square, and check the circumference of the tires. I run 60 psi in one rear and 70 in the other. Good luck Vince
Thanks ,we aligned it ourselves, it was square but we never did check the tires .We are making some changes to add another 500 lbs to it if needed, adding a wind screen ,and some smaller front tires to help it sit a little lower and a little less drag
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Nice job..What`s next to it in the first pic.? :-)
Its a 68 camaro convertable, it is one of my brothers customers cars undergoing a complete resto.I was wrong that is the 65 mustang convertable also a customers car.
On the other side.....looks like a body shell on the floor. (???) :cheers:
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When you spun was it to the right or left? Lost of unbalacned aero load on the left side of the car. You need to put a fairing around the blower.
Very nice built!!!! Great engineering and workmanship!!!
Rex
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Nice job..What`s next to it in the first pic.? :-)
Its a 68 camaro convertable, it is one of my brothers customers cars undergoing a complete resto.I was wrong that is the 65 mustang convertable also a customers car.
On the other side.....looks like a body shell on the floor. (???) :cheers:
On the left is a 65 mustang convertable shell and on the right is a 65 mustang coupe shell . in the later pictures the coupe is the primered car with the blue cowl hood.
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When you spun was it to the right or left? Lost of unbalacned aero load on the left side of the car. You need to put a fairing around the blower.
Very nice built!!!! Great engineering and workmanship!!!
Rex
Thanks Rex,I cant remember if it spun to the left or right. It happened so fast i am just glad I got the chute out after the second time around. Going back through the racepak it only took 1.5 seconds to go around twice.I was on a good run it was the first time i had a chance at hitting 175 in the quarter in 3rd gear (of a four speed ) ,it fishtailed a bit and next thing i new i was backwards through the markers.Another thing we were fighting was no clutch , when i set up the throughout bearing I forgot to take into consideration the .125" for the mid plate. The first time i drove the car under its own power was getting pushed off for my first run so i had no idea i had no clutch until i tried to shift into second gear.So i was driving it clutchless all week, because it is a lot of work to adjust the bearing. So we plan on building a fairing around the supercharger and incorporating a forward facing scoop, we had to clean the carb out a couple of times it, just like everything else had salt in it . Hopefully the fairing will also help keep it a little more stable.
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Check with the Supercharger Store---they have a Pro charger front mount with quick change gears---if you continue to have spin issues ---look into SCRUB Radius... looks like you have a good bit of postive--ZERO is better.
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Check with the Supercharger Store---they have a Pro charger front mount with quick change gears---if you continue to have spin issues ---look into SCRUB Radius... looks like you have a good bit of postive--ZERO is better.
I have dealt with the supercharger store, I bought my pulleys and water injection from them . I looked into there gear drive unit, very nice piece but in the street roadster class, it would be a tough fit on my car due to the limit on the hood length, engine set back and retention of the radiator core. On the scrub radius I am going to need some help, all of my front end is off the shelf parts. Stock reproduction spindles with Willwood hubs and 4" steel wheels with 2" back spacing. When I set this car up I never even heard of scrub radius,other than wheels with more backspacing is there anyone making parts to decrease scrub radius for a Ford straight axle. thanks mark
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Rear suspension?
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Rear suspension?
It is a typical drag race style 32" ladder bar with coil overs and a diagonal link.The kit came from A.R.T. with adjustable ladder bars and non adjustable Afco shocks. I can not remmember the spring rates but after we added everything to the car I know they were a little too soft.When we set the car up , the ladder bars were in the top hole of the front crossmember so i knew there would be clearance when we made the floor. In the mad thrash before speedweek didn't even think of the instant center being too high at that setting, so i am shure that didn't help.
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Thanks for posting your build.That is a very cool ride.
terry
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I would check the scrub radius also.The first year in my roadster it was a hand full.I was running a 4 inch wheel with 2 inch backspacing and at 170 it was all over the place :-o.The following year went to a 4 inch wheel with 4 inch backspacing and went over 205 with no problem :-D.Is this the car that goes around at Speedweek 2007,was watching Marks' video last night and it looks like the same car. :cheers:
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I would check the scrub radius also.The first year in my roadster it was a hand full.I was running a 4 inch wheel with 2 inch backspacing and at 170 it was all over the place :-o.The following year went to a 4 inch wheel with 4 inch backspacing and went over 205 with no problem :-D.Is this the car that goes around at Speedweek 2007,was watching Marks' video last night and it looks like the same car. :cheers:
Thanks for the info, looks like the scrub radius will be a focus point this winter and I have not seen any video from 07 .that was the only year it has been out and it only went around on one run. Is that the video that the SCTA sells?
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Check with the Supercharger Store---they have a Pro charger front mount with quick change gears---if you continue to have spin issues ---look into SCRUB Radius... looks like you have a good bit of postive--ZERO is better.
I have dealt with the supercharger store, I bought my pulleys and water injection from them . I looked into there gear drive unit, very nice piece but in the street roadster class, it would be a tough fit on my car due to the limit on the hood length, engine set back and retention of the radiator core. On the scrub radius I am going to need some help, all of my front end is off the shelf parts. Stock reproduction spindles with Willwood hubs and 4" steel wheels with 2" back spacing. When I set this car up I never even heard of scrub radius,other than wheels with more backspacing is there anyone making parts to decrease scrub radius for a Ford straight axle. thanks mark
A different offset on the wheel could help if that is an option. A different wheel diameter can help. Machining or a different hub could help or work on the front spindle....
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/construction%20page-21.html
.........from the pictures it doesn't seem to be way off, but I couldn't really tell from the angle they were shot.
c ya,
Sum
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The web site for the video is landspeedracingvideo.com,it's the opening spin on part two for Speedweek 07 :-o
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It is a typical drag race style 32" ladder bar with coil overs and a diagonal link.The kit came from A.R.T. with adjustable ladder bars and non adjustable Afco shocks. I can not remmember the spring rates but after we added everything to the car I know they were a little too soft.When we set the car up , the ladder bars were in the top hole of the front crossmember so i knew there would be clearance when we made the floor. In the mad thrash before speedweek didn't even think of the instant center being too high at that setting, so i am shure that didn't help.
Look closely at the position of your diagonal link as well. I am assuming it is a panhard arm. It can cause a little rear steer with suspension movement.
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A different offset on the wheel could help if that is an option. A different wheel diameter can help. Machining or a different hub could help or work on the front spindle....
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/construction%20page-21.html
.........from the pictures it doesn't seem to be way off, but I couldn't really tell from the angle they were shot.
c ya,
Sum
[/quote]Thanks for the pics thats a nice build you have there. That gives me some good ideas, my uncle is a machinist by trade and has a lathe in his home shop so I will talk to him about the spindles and hubs.I checked out the rest of your site, thats a great reference for cars, even have my car in there . Under our name it just shows Wilcox ??, it was supposed to be Wilcox Garage but when I signed up I think my handwriting was a little sloppy( too much MONSTER getting the car together). thanks, Mark
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Look closely at the position of your diagonal link as well. I am assuming it is a panhard arm. It can cause a little rear steer with suspension movement.
[/quote]With the diagonal link it ties the front left mounting point ( at the cross member )of the ladder bar to the rear right mounting point ( on the rear end) of the ladder bar. So when the suspension moves up and down ,it doesnt move side to side like a panhard bar.
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....................... thats a great reference for cars, even have my car in there . Under our name it just shows Wilcox ??, it was supposed to be Wilcox Garage but when I signed up I think my handwriting was a little sloppy( too much MONSTER getting the car together).................thanks, Mark
Very Nice car......................
(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bville-cars-1/142-1-07.jpg)
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bville-cars-1/142-2007.html ............
I'll add the "Garage" part and the ??, ?? is for your "City, State", so if I have those I'll also add that,
Sum
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....................... thats a great reference for cars, even have my car in there . Under our name it just shows Wilcox ??, it was supposed to be Wilcox Garage but when I signed up I think my handwriting was a little sloppy( too much MONSTER getting the car together).................thanks, Mark
Very Nice car......................
(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bville-cars-1/142-1-07.jpg)
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bville-cars-1/142-2007.html ............
I'll add the "Garage" part and the ??, ?? is for your "City, State", so if I have those I'll also add that,
Sum
Thanks Sum, we come out of Enumclaw Washington. Thanks Mark
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................... we come out of Enumclaw Washington......................Thanks Mark
Done,
Sum
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When I had to fix the 797 car, I had simple hubs machined from round solid aluminum stock. They basically look like a top hat, with the 5 studs sticking up through the "brim". Bore out the center, for the spindle, and have them turn each end to use your original bearing races. Heat the aluminum in hot oil, or the oven, and assemble the races/bearings directly onto the spindle to pull the bearings in dead straight (if you pound the races into the bare aluminum, it'll gall and they'll be crooked). I actually start with the races pretty hot, also. I know that sounds goofy, but the steel doesn't grow much and if it's cool the aluminum grabs it pretty quick...learned that trick putting sleeves into motorcycle cylinders.
Mine were done by a custom wheel fabricator (any of the small aftermarket wheel companies can do it, and they already have the jigs set up for 5 on 4 1/2). I think it ran about 150 bucks...they seemed to think it was a pretty easy job, compared to the fancy stuff they are normally doing. I don't have a name anymore...it was just one of those little outfits that come and go as wheel styles change, and a friend made the arrangements while we were scrambling to get the car ready.
One catch...your wheel center hole needs to big enough to keep the aluminum pretty thick.
Hope this is useful for somebody.
Regards, JimL
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I had to take a die grinder to my center hole to get the wheel on----but it was worth it ----it goes straight and doesn't HUNT!
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(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_1752.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_1754.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/[IMG]http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_1771.jpg)100_1756.jpg[/IMG](http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_1770.jpg) Here are a few pics of the new floors going in the street roadster. It has been a busy winter putting up a new shop ( so i wont have to work on this stuff at my brothers any more) and keeping up with a 1 year old daughter. I have been hard at work on the car last couple of months getting ready for speed week . I have a new set of front wheels with 3 1/4" backspacing, got some m&h 22 x 3.5 front tires and the new front hubs are being machined now to add another 3/4" gain on the scrub radius. These pictures are about the only ones I have taken sense the car came apart after 07 . Some of the changes are being able to take the body off in pieces( mostly with dzus fasteners that are hidden on the inside) , rather than the one piece body . Ree engineering the floor so each floor piece will be a separate piece that will be bolted in in between the floor bracing but still be above the frame rails. The chassis was sand blasted before i started working on it and hopefully it will be blasted again in two weeks . Then paint and assembly will start. Hopefully I will have time to document the changes a little more.
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(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_1771.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_1756.jpg) here are a couple more of the floor.
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Wilcox. That's a beautiful car. John.
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Found a couple more pics of the floor. This week got my push bar ,parachute mount ( switched over to a air launcher) ,fuel tank, fire bottles,and rear fire wall all mounted up. This week hopefully finish the trunk floor and transmission tunnel so it can be sent off to paint the chassis.(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2091.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2090.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2086.jpg)
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Looks good Wilcox. Keep up the good work and great photos. :cheers:
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Nice looking fabrication.
ENUMCLAW
is one of those great Washington state place names, along with Puyallup, Cleellum (SP?), Roy, and Yelm.
The last two, I believe, were in the range of the impact area of Ft Lewis' artillery range.
Keep up the good work.
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Since your e-mail address is hidden all ask this here. Is the tab I see on the crossbar on the driverside about 6" behind the shifter for the crotchstrap? If it is, you may want to add an angle brace tube up from the lower larger tube next to the u-joint and one from the opposite side from the lower frame rail.
On a roll over (God forbid) I would hate to see the bars where the seat/belt is mounted have a chance to bend and push the driver up into the top of the cage. All of it looks good. If I were building a Street roadster I would make the main cage/bars like you have done.
From your first post of pictures there is one other bar you may need to consider. It will go from the from edge of the main forward hoop on the left side out and down to the top side bar. This is to protect your left hand from leaving the confines of the cage when the body leaves the car. To see what I mean, sit in the car with your hands on the wheel and the limb restraint on. It appears that you hand/finger can easily go over the top side rail because it appears low in the photos. Many of us have had to add a bar there to keep our left hand inside the plane of the cage. Remember the body can not used to keep you in the car. Some inspectors miss that. Looks great. Good Luck
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Cool little build, thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for all the positive comments. Jimmy Six thanks for the ideas about the bracing , i added some . I will have my seats and belts added next week so I will check and make sure my hands dont go outside the cage. I remember the tech guy checking my legs but I dont remember my hands. The body does sit about 1 1/2" inches above the cage in that area ,so it will be close. This week we finished the panels in the passenger area and mounted batteries. I forgot my camera when I went to work on the car so next week I will post a couple more pics of progress , it sucks not being able to work on it at home yet but I am fortunate to have the tools and shop space at my brothers to get it done.
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Thanks for sharing the photos.
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Well its been a busy month with speedweek past i finally have some time to post a few pictures of the thrash.I finally got the chassis to the blaster on July 13th .Stripmasters of Buckley Wa. donated the blasting and painting of the chassis and PPG donated the paint for the chassis . (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2108.jpg) By July 20 I had the chassis back with the passenger floor and the engine and trans in. The engine only had to come back out once to get the clutch adjusted right but I was just happy to have the clutch release. (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2317.jpg) By July 26 we had it wired and running.(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2334.jpg) My brother was building the trunk floor in his spare time between working on customers cars and family. (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2361.jpg) It finally rolls on a new set of hubs my Uncle machined and I installed a new set of front wheels with some 22" M&H tires(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2364.jpg). Tuesday before speedweek had more friends come over to help plumb fire bottles mount batteries and paint a bunch of small parts. One of my friends who had been thrashing on his fairlane had some bad luck with his engine so he showed up on wed to help.(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2374.jpg) By Friday we had the body all mounted so finally it was time to align it .(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2382.jpg) With it aligned we loaded it in the trailer with just some roll bar padding and ballast to add. Drove all night to make it there to finish the car and go through tech on Saturday.(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2389.jpg) We made two runs sunday through the three mile to a 198.69 run . On both runs the distributor came loose and retarded the timing . After the second time, we realized a faulty clamp that I modified to clear a water outlet hose was the culprit. I missed salt talks on sunday ( i was running to salt lake to pick up my wife) (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2396.jpg) Our first run on Monday it went 194 through the three mile and melted a piston. I was a little disappointed but my car picked up 18 MPH over the last time it was out with just a few changes to the scrub radius, having a working clutch and adding 3 lbs of boost. Our group had four cars racing,next year we will have five with the fairlane .(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2399.jpg) Now with speedweek over its time to get to work on cleaning and finding another 20 mph my class record was bumped from 208 to 217 .
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simply amazing! I thought I was looking at a baja prerunner when I first saw the pic of your rear suspension! THAT is COOL!
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Montana---i think you may have your sequence wrong ----most of us were products of the breeding before we experienced the born :-D
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Been working on the car quite a bit lately, got some new paint and quite a few changes to the engine. Last year we broke a piston so bad the block had to be boared 20 over so we changed rods , pistons and cam. With these changes an the addition of a big air to water intercooler , hoping to pick up some reliability and power. (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/101_2696.jpg)
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Cars lookin real good Mark, love to check it out sometime. (yes I'm inviting myself) Used to live in the claw, off of 424th. I'll make sure to catch up with you guys at SW this year. How many cars can you stuff in that moving trailer?
Later :cheers:
Dan
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I love the new paint !!!
Charles
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Cars lookin real good Mark, love to check it out sometime. (yes I'm inviting myself) Used to live in the claw, off of 424th. I'll make sure to catch up with you guys at SW this year. How many cars can you stuff in that moving trailer?
Later :cheers:
Dan
Any time Dan, this weekend the car will be in Maple Valley at my brothers shop running the pipework for the intercooler. Our friends haul 2 cars in the moving trailer a mini pickup and a lakester. there are two other cars with us and everyone is looking good so we should have five cars in our camp, four from Enumclaw/Buckley and one from Silverdale.
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I love the new paint !!!
Charles
Thanks Charles, Its been a long time scence I have painted a car and hopefully it will be a long time before I have to again. I am glad to finally cover up the bare fiberglass.
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I finally got some of my pics from speedweek transferred onto my computer , so I thought I would share. We had a great run at the record, I had a great group of people helping, I could not have had a better week! The main changes to the car from last year are a air to water intercooler ( intake temps at the four mile were around 60 degrees ) , adding almost 300lbs ( 28 gallons ice water, intercooler , tank and pump) and a new cam and piston combo.It was just a great experience going to impound and running with the record cars in the morning. Next year I hope to have a little different outcome on a backup run! The gps said I was going 167 mph when it spun. I don't have too many changes in mind for next year , except for some inconel exhaust valves and bronze guides, we had a exhaust valve stick on my last run. (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2817.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2821.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2811.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2812.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2477.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/100_2702.jpg)
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How much boost are you getting out of your blower? You guys almost went 200 last year, did you change anything? :cheers:
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How much boost are you getting out of your blower? You guys almost went 200 last year, did you change anything? :cheers:
We saw 16 lbs at sea level not turning the blower as hard as we did last year. This year we changed cam, piston,went to a longer rod to lighten the piston, added the intercooler, changed the carb to a 850 with a better hat, and added about 300 lbs.
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Abolute incredible workmanshp and expenitures in the Street Roadster classes lately, NASCAR motors , half Chevy's for 4 cyls, (by PANELLA, incidently), Arduns by former IMSA champs etc. etc.
Will George be next to put Blowfish and Speed Demon aside??
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Great job Mark! I must have talked to you pre mohawk, was that an impound haircut? Looking forward to comin down to the shop sometime, you guys wouldn't happen to know about a bunch of hemis from Carnation would ya?
:cheers:
Dan
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Great job Mark! I must have talked to you pre mohawk, was that an impound haircut? Looking forward to comin down to the shop sometime, you guys wouldn't happen to know about a bunch of hemis from Carnation would ya?
:cheers:
Dan
Hey Dan it was good talking to you, my crew decided because I didn't get matching shirts we should have matching haircuts. I don't know about any Hemis in Carnation but a friend in Buckley does. I hear he is building a new engine for his C/GC so he might want to sell some.
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Bump for one of my new favorite cars. I think I was the first inspector to tech it actually. Very well built. Glad to hear that you've been doing well with it. Don't know how I missed you in the years following your first time out... actually I do know how I missed it 'cause I was busy as shit but I certainly hope to see it again in the future.
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Thanks Nathan , thing are progressing ,getting ready for August. The engine is completely disassembled now , the new anodized pistons look like brand new not a scuff mark in them , the heads are off getting inconel exhaust valves and bronze guides along with a little o-ring and receiver grove work. The head gaskets looked a little suspect to some leaking . The title showed a month ago so with any luck I'll hit the local cruise inn before Speedweek!
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As usual the thrash before Speedweek is on ! The engine is complete and will be in the car this weekend , we upgraded the exhaust valves and plan on using a bigger crank pulley. We will be on the dyno on the 30th , hopefully with good results! (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/IMAG0137.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/imagejpeg_2_12.jpg)(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/imagejpeg_2_13.jpg)
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good luck guys! we wont be there with the 1946 D/BSTR this year. not enough cash in the piggy bank lol. go get that record!!!
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good luck guys! we wont be there with the 1946 D/BSTR this year. not enough cash in the piggy bank lol. go get that record!!!
Thanks, it should be a good race this year with the 511 car and the 1934 car, both very fast cars in the hunt with us! The engine is in and should be running tomorrow.
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(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/IMAG0147.jpg) Looks like a bit of a mess now but all were waiting on is a couple pieces from Racepak and our welder to finish the last minute addition to the fuel tank and it will run! Should be no problem having it ready for dyno results on Saturday.
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Very nice build!!! I'm a huge procharger fan and the setup you are using is similar to the one i want to run on my roadster in the near future. I like the cover over the procharger should help out with the aerodynamics of the car. Hopefully i make out to Bonneville and i would like to stop by your pit area check out your car, meet your team and ask you some questions about your blower and intercooler setup.
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Feel free to stop in! We started it last night and its off to the dyno in the morning , still a lot of work ahead of us but were way ahead of where we were last year at this time.
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Sweet thanks man, I'll make sure I look out for you guys. I'm planning on running in D/BFR in the next couple of years but the challenge in fitting a Chris Alston's front supercharger single drive procharger setup with a water intercooler has been a bit difficult to put in perspective. Lucky for me for me I ran across your build and now I know that a similar setup will work for me. I've also reached out for help from the Langlo Camaro team cause they too run a procharger water intercooler setup. I hope i can pick your brain a bit and get some pointers from you. First beer is on me :cheers: only if you're not in impound! Its good to know that you guys are ahead of last year, something good has to be going on at the shop, I would like to know the results from the dyno, hope you guys are at the goal you set out to be!
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Once again a comment about no beer in impound. What the heck is going on here?
DW
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Well at least not for those working on the car during those 4 hours, or am i overlooking something :| DW. After all i am newbie :-D
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We ran on the dyno today with good results , everything is happy ! We have had good luck with our side slinger but if you can fit a gear drive those things are awesome! We are not turning this F2 very hard so everything with the blower has been very reliable . Feel free to ask anything about it , we have learned a lot about this since the start of this build. We also run a drag radial car with a BBC F3 on alcohol . And if we get to impound I think a beer or two will be had in our pit! :-D
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Right on! Good to hear everything went well. See you guys on the salt
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We have been working on the aero a bit , almost done with the wind screen and the bulge to cover the blower .(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/IMAG0155.jpg) (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/IMAG0156.jpg)
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Here is a video of us on the dyno ! http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxXmOAKCk9is&v=xXmOAKCk9is&gl=US
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Link didn't work for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXmOAKCk9is
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Listen to her sing!!
Love it made my morning.
Larry
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I thought you street roadsters guys drove the roadsters to Bonneville :evil: good luck
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Mike, don't see you listed to run, when will yours be finished????? :roll:
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Glen I dont have a street roadster :|, fuel gas roadster, been busy at shop havnt had a lot of time to work on it but its close, maybe May next year I hope but I said that two years ago too lol see you on the salt
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Wilcox G., what number is the Camaro from Enumclaw? Thanx.
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I thought you street roadsters guys drove the roadsters to Bonneville :evil: good luck
This car was built to drive! It has a clear title, a passenger seat, front brakes and the wiring harness for all lights, so you never know one year we might just drive it to Bonneville.
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Wilcox G., what number is the Camaro from Enumclaw? Thanx.
I'm not sure of a Camaro from Enumclaw but car 897 is a Firebird from Buckley (town next to Enumclaw ).
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Once again a comment about no beer in impound. What the heck is going on here?
DW
Yeah...how would we ever get anything done :? :-D
JL222
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Best of luck to you and your crew!
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Best of luck to you and your crew!
Thanks , the car is loaded and ready for tech! We leave 5:00 am Friday , see you on the salt!!!!!!
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How's it going for you fella's?
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How's it going for you fella's?
The 142 car went 219 yesterday and spun at the four mile. Still, it was enough to go to impound. Went again this morning but wasn't enough to back it up. 208 average, but had a 227 exit speed. Mark said he was a p#£+, which is understandable after going four times the speed limit backward.
I'm his brother, sitting at home getting updates and trying to keep from bothering him and the guys too much with texts.
I put salt on my cereal this morning, turned the blender to loud and put my chair in front of the oven. Just like being there.
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Yep! Just like it :mrgreen: LOL
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just wasn't the same!
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897, is that "Buzzard Bait?"
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Mark went 219.93 this afternoon and is back in impound. They'll try again in the morning.
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Mark went 219.93 this afternoon and is back in impound. They'll try again in the morning.
Keep us updated! Thanks.
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211 on the backup run. No record. Going back for round 3.
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Whats the record sitting at...im at work and i dont have the rule book with me..
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D/BSTR record. Van Blarcom Racing S. Van Blarcom 08/09 216.979
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Scroll down to pic #15 here: http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/08/bonneville-speedweek-2011/ (http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/08/bonneville-speedweek-2011/)
Mike
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D/BSTR record. Van Blarcom Racing S. Van Blarcom 08/09 216.979
Man they're right there. I hope they get it. Thanks man.
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Scroll down to pic #15 here: http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/08/bonneville-speedweek-2011/ (http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/08/bonneville-speedweek-2011/)
Mike
Those are great pictures!
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Scroll down to pic #15 here: http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/08/bonneville-speedweek-2011/ (http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/08/bonneville-speedweek-2011/)
Mike
Those are great pictures!
He went 217.8 this afternoon and is back in impound for the third time.
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Third times a charm :-D
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897, is that "Buzzard Bait?"
Yes it is .
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Third times a charm :-D
Hopefully !!!! Headed to lands end now , we had some wind last night but its calm now , was told last night we will have a new course this morning . I ran it to the 5 mile for the first time yesterday , the middle of the course wasn't in the best shape.
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Any new updates?
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I had a great car all week , went to impound three days in a row but couldn't back it up. We had a few handling issues , wind , lots of power with a short wheel base , not the best course conditions , but it was a great week. Thanks to all of the SCTA who make this happen ,
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Sorry to hear that but October is right around the corner. A few people also posted that the track wasn't all that well but that's racing. Two major projects got moved up a week at work and they asked me if I could reschedule my vacation time. Maybe at the World Finals I'll stop by your pit.
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http://youtu.be/6Qt8332h5aQ
Here is a video of my first spin / qualifier through the four mile .
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Comments . . .
That wasn't the same spin as on the other video we've seen. You were much more creative on it.
Is Lee Kennedy now on your Christmas card list now that you've become good friends, meeting thruout the week?
What -- no balls? Reach over and fire it up and drive over to the return road and then have your conversations. Whattaya trying to hold up the meet?
That 3-mile looked rather challenging -- course 1?
Didn't seem to scare you enuf to try it again. Sure is nice to have stiff suspension -- looks like the T-cup ride at Disneyland.
See you next year.
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Someone had posted a few runs of this weeks speed week on youtube and your car came out. On the video you spun about 3 or 4 times and you almost gained control after every turn real nice driving. I'll bet its a scary feeling going 200+ backwards :-o
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Not if you're flat and there's nothing of consequence to hit.
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Just the feeling i quess.
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I had two spins , I haven't had time to upload the second spin , it makes you dizzy!
Yes Lee knew who we were , so did D.W., Steve Davies , and Adam our spin inspector . We spent more than our fair share of time with inspectors.
Yes we ran course 1 on all passes , we had 8 total runs, 3 qualifiers , 3 failed attempts, 2 spins , 1 that was 3 mph short of qualifying and gave Ron Caps a good show of sliding sideways because of a chute steering the car!
Yes we will be back !
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I saw you guys on the line for one of your record backup runs and was wondering why you run that type of video camera? That is like adding a small barn door to your car. If you were running a consistent 10 mph over the record maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal but you are right at the record and to then run that camera just looks to me like you are not serious, and I know that is not true as you had to many guys with mohawks to not be trying hard.
Rex
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We run the camera there to see the wheel and see where the car is driving. I have a very dedicated hard working crew who give up many nights after long days at work , weekends , and a weeks vacation away from family to follow me to the salt to help me . After all the serious business is done with the car the second thing is to HAVE FUN ! I feel we have gained more with the camera than we have lost in MPH because of it.
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Mark,
I could see that your crew was busting a$$ all of the time and your real challenge was getting the right end of your roadster to be the first thing through the timing lights! Great job.
Just to put a number on the cost in HP for your camera I assumed it was 3"x4" in area and the Cd is 1.1 (flat plate) at 217 mph (I think that was your speed) it takes 6.4 hp to have the camera along for the ride.
Rex
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Frt gear drive for the ProCharger should offset the camera drag :-D
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gopro.com They make small HD video cameras that you can mount pretty much anywhere. Maybe its something to look into if you havent already.
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Frt gear drive for the ProCharger should offset the camera drag :-D
That sure would help!! We just need the Roadster committee let me bend a few rules so it can fit. LOL!!!
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drive it off the drive shaft then
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(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/mkwilcox04/imagejpeg_2_18.jpg) The Roadster will spend the rest of the year with the intercooler removed, passenger seat and street tires installed , time to hit the street, the local cruise in and a few car shows! Just your average 200 MPH grocery getter !!
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They were selling a calendar at El Mirage today and theres a picture of you and your band of Mohawk buddies looking like the Jesse James Gang very cool looking :evil: picture and awesome calendar too. "GROCERY GETTER" I think you're going to pass everything but gas stations :-D
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Yes we were very excited to see our picture in the calendar !! We bought a bunch for the people who couldn't make the trip. I swapped out the water tank for a 16 gallon fuel tank , it now seems to get better than the 2 mph that it was getting on the salt!
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Hi Mark,
I didn't get a chance to talk to you during the week, I did spend ten minutes eating mexican one night at the little slot at the Nugget with two of your crew, I dunno if they'd remember, they'd given it a fair shove. You must have been up there with select company , you qualified three times yeah?
The car looked great, and running hot on the record was great drama , I'm guessing you ain't giving up anytime soon?
Congrats on getting close.
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Frt gear drive for the ProCharger should offset the camera drag :-D
That sure would help!! We just need the Roadster committee let me bend a few rules so it can fit. LOL!!!
You mean they won't let you extent the hood any longer or let you set the engine back further :?
Our F3 procharger measures 20'' from front of pulley to back radius of intake. If a reverse drive it would be 12'' to intake opening from back of bottom pulley. Not much room in a street roadster and if it did fit, air intake thru radiator?
I don't see any rule on spacing of radiator tubes and fins :evil:
JL222
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I don't see any rule on spacing of radiator tubes and fins :evil:
JL222
I would come straight through the radiator and grill like a Bentley or Stutz, but a higher. If done properly you might be able to get an aero advantage. Maybe even run an air conditioning condenser (with a tighter fin count) in place of the radiator to gain some space and aero help :-D Tony
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The Roadster will spend the rest of the year with the intercooler removed, passenger seat and street tires installed , time to hit the street, the local cruise in and a few car shows! Just your average 200 MPH grocery getter !!
Thats livin!!! :cheers:
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You're really jammed with a long engine assembly in StR. You can only lengthen the hood 3" and if you set the engine back into the firewall the driver still has to stay in the passenger compartment, so has to sit more upright (if at all!) and the roll cage looks like an oil derrick.
Maybe a search for a 30's straight-8 roadster would alleviate the problem. Anyone got an old Duesenberg body laying around?
Stan
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Yep I'm maxed out on hood length and engine set back , I'm lucky to have enough room for my fuel pump drive. My neighbour is big into Packards , maybe I should look into borrowing one of his Roadsters!!
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I just got done watching the episode of Speed Scene live with Dan Warner , they showed one of our go pro videos!! It was pretty cool!! http://www.speedsceneracing.com/video/SpeedSceneVideo8-30-11.wmv
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I just got done watching the episode of Speed Scene live with Dan Warner , they showed one of our go pro videos!! It was pretty cool!! http://www.speedsceneracing.com/video/SpeedSceneVideo8-30-11.wmv
Thanks for the link man! And keeping me up so late watching Dan...............he is better looking in person?
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Mark, Im new to the froum and just got done reading your build. Very cool. Can you give me some basic info on your engine, clutch and trans setup ( CID, heads, etc ) I come from a drag racing background ( I ran an altered and a rear engine dragster both SBC powered ) and am considering starting on an LSR car in the next year or two. Kinda want to stick with an open wheel car if I can. Maybe ill see ya out on the salt next year.
Frankie