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Title: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 01, 2008, 12:08:42 AM
Tonight I scored the deal I have been looking for.........I have been kinda looking for a deal on Busa for awhile now and tonight I found it! It's a 2003 that was laid down and has a salvage title for $2700. This will be my next LSR project. It is pretty dirty as it has been outside for a few weeks, but I will get her cleaned up and post some more pictures, from what I can see most of the damage is cosmetic.

Scott

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Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2008, 12:21:46 AM
Glad it worked out for you Scott, as I said let me know if you need anything.

Tell mommy we said hello.

J
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 01, 2008, 12:37:50 AM
Glad it worked out for you Scott, as I said let me know if you need anything.

Tell mommy we said hello.

J

I tell her you said hi John, thanks for all your help.

Scott
Title: Harley to Real fast bike!!
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2008, 01:02:59 AM
Glad it worked out for you Scott, as I said let me know if you need anything.

Tell mommy we said hello.

J

I tell her you said hi John, thanks for all your help.

Scott

 :-D :-D

No worries and welcome to the other side..I can see it now, Moreland Noonan Stites, Noonan Moreland Stites, Moreland Stites Noonan, Noonan Stites Moreland. Stites Moreland, Stites Moreland Noonan   :mrgreen: How big and what compression do you want your engine... 8-) :-D :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Harley to Real fast bike!!
Post by: isiahstites on August 01, 2008, 01:11:30 AM
Glad it worked out for you Scott, as I said let me know if you need anything.

Tell mommy we said hello.

J

I tell her you said hi John, thanks for all your help.

Scott

 :-D :-D

No worries and welcome to the other side..I can see it now, Moreland Noonan Stites, Noonan Moreland Stites, Moreland Stites Noonan, Noonan Stites Moreland. Stites Moreland, Stites Moreland Noonan   :mrgreen: How big and what compression do you want your engine... 8-) :-D :mrgreen:

The possibilities........I am not sure yet John, however I was thinking the more power I make N/A the less boost I would have to run later to make the power I want and maybe make the motor more reliable..........am I thinking right here?
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2008, 01:14:45 AM
Scott,

For what you and I have spoken about you need an engine built for a turbo..
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: isiahstites on August 01, 2008, 01:30:40 AM
Scott,

For what you and I have spoken about you need an engine built for a turbo..

I agree......we will talk more later.
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: Super Kaz on August 01, 2008, 08:19:48 AM
Scott,

For what you and I have spoken about you need an engine built for a turbo..

I agree......we will talk more later.

Scott,
YOU LITTLE------!
What happened to being Different? :?
Just for that you only get a clothed shot's of my PLAYBOY Shoot :cry:....
1st Wild Bill now you is it gonna be the Hayabusa LSR WORLD NOW :??


P.S j/k Good Luck and God Bless 8-)
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: isiahstites on August 01, 2008, 08:26:22 AM
Scott,

For what you and I have spoken about you need an engine built for a turbo..

I agree......we will talk more later.

Scott,
YOU LITTLE------!
What happened to being Different? :?
Just for that you only get a clothed shot's of my PLAYBOY Shoot :cry:....
1st Wild Bill now you is it gonna be the Hayabusa LSR WORLD NOW :??


P.S j/k Good Luck and God Bless 8-)

Kaz, Kaz, Kaz........you know as well as I that if you want to go really fast it's probably not going to happen on a HD, and if does there will be lots of agony to get there and you be broke.........sound familiar?? I WANT TO GO REALLY FAST!!

Scott
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: DahMurf on August 01, 2008, 11:59:20 AM
Congrats Scott! Welcome to the dark side!

You got a lot of good advice over on the SH.ORG. Take your time looking over that bike before trying to fire it up and go for a ride! I know you said you had a long term timeline so it looks like you picked up a good starting point! Look it over good & you'll do well with it. Noonan is the used parts king so I'm sure he'll hook you up with good parts & advice! ;)

Oh yeah, there's a guy, Busaman66, on the SH.org that gets all kinds of parts so if Noonan can't help you hit him up. His prices are good, his descriptions are too  modest if anything and his packaging & fast shipping couldn't be better!

There's a reason this V-Twin shop owner races a busa and I think you understand! Todd's still running his ironhead for another reason & another goal. My busa may well never see a turbo or be in the fastest of the fast, but just to have a relatively low maintenance, street legal, 200 mph bike in the stable to make a pass on any time we want, heck, how can you go wrong?

Good luck with the project! I'll help out any way I can but I'm just a newbie to the over 200 mph world so I'm not sure how much helpful stuff I actually know!

Deb
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: WildBro on August 01, 2008, 12:23:38 PM

1st Wild Bill now you is it gonna be the Hayabusa LSR WORLD NOW :??


P.S j/k Good Luck and God Bless 8-)

I'll have the Vmax back together for Sept Maxton Kaz. 
Don't worry Kaz, you'll do it some day too.  Its like a girl you don't want to tell anyone you slept with, it was easy but you don't want to be seen in public with her(the bike)

Bill
(I just tell everyone my turbo bike is realy the new Vmax)  :-D
Aren't they coming out with a new Vrod (hint hint)
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: DahMurf on August 01, 2008, 01:37:18 PM
Oh I can see it now, he'll be trying to shape the fairings to look like a vrod!  :-D

We were talking about you last night Bill! We were trying to figure out why, according to the magazine article we were reading, they're limiting the new Vmax to 136mph? Where the heck did they come up with that number!!!


hmmm... so should we expect Scott to mold the new busa to a V-twin look alike too?  :-D

I made mine look like a mutt just to add to the confusion!

Deb

(ok, I'll crawl back in my hole now!)
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: John Noonan on August 01, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
Oh I can see it now, he'll be trying to shape the fairings to look like a vrod!  :-D

We were talking about you last night Bill! We were trying to figure out why, according to the magazine article we were reading, they're limiting the new Vmax to 136mph? Where the heck did they come up with that number!!!


hmmm... so should we expect Scott to mold the new busa to a V-twin look alike too?  :-D

I made mine look like a mutt just to add to the confusion!

Deb

(ok, I'll crawl back in my hole now!)

Deb,

Actually your Mutt looks good with the lights and blinkers still attached and I bet your bike is faster with them than without.  Imagine if Bill had his bike like that..250!! 
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on August 01, 2008, 05:58:12 PM
It’s a good thing the original owner had the tank buckle protector....wouldn’t want it to get scratched!

From what I can see it looks like the frame was untouched……
Now all you need is that carbon fiber body that SSS has for sale and about 35 PSI.

-JH
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: Dakin Engineering on August 01, 2008, 06:49:16 PM

Kaz, Kaz, Kaz........you know as well as I that if you want to go really fast it's probably not going to happen on a HD, and if does there will be lots of agony to get there and you be broke.........sound familiar?? I WANT TO GO REALLY FAST!!

Scott


Scott,
  I feel your Pain. Please keep sending HD reject parts. :)
God Bless,
Sam
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 01, 2008, 07:51:37 PM

hmmm... so should we expect Scott to mold the new busa to a V-twin look alike too?  :-D

I made

Deb, My Buell don't look like a Buell and when I am done with the Busa it won't look like a Busa........


From what I can see it looks like the frame was untouched……
Now all you need is that carbon fiber body that SSS has for sale and about 35 PSI.

-JH

JH - I haven't looked really close, but it appears to me the frame was untouched and I did hit Slim up on the bodywork, but it is not what I am looking for.......



Kaz, Kaz, Kaz........you know as well as I that if you want to go really fast it's probably not going to happen on a HD, and if does there will be lots of agony to get there and you be broke.........sound familiar?? I WANT TO GO REALLY FAST!!

Scott


Scott,
  I feel your Pain. Please keep sending HD reject parts. :)
God Bless,
Sam

Sam - I will send you what I can.........I got some old barrels......do you need them?

Scott
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: Super Kaz on August 01, 2008, 11:06:37 PM

hmmm... so should we expect Scott to mold the new busa to a V-twin look alike too?  :-D

I made

Deb, My Buell don't look like a Buell and when I am done with the Busa it won't look like a Busa........


From what I can see it looks like the frame was untouched……
Now all you need is that carbon fiber body that SSS has for sale and about 35 PSI.

-JH

JH - I haven't looked really close, but it appears to me the frame was untouched and I did hit Slim up on the bodywork, but it is not what I am looking for.......



Kaz, Kaz, Kaz........you know as well as I that if you want to go really fast it's probably not going to happen on a HD, and if does there will be lots of agony to get there and you be broke.........sound familiar?? I WANT TO GO REALLY FAST!!

Scott


Scott,
  I feel your Pain. Please keep sending HD reject parts. :)
God Bless,
Sam

Sam - I will send you what I can.........I got some old barrels......do you need them?

Scott

Scott
you knom i'm just yankin your chain after you just talk me off the LEDGE OF DARKNESS the last time we spoke :wink:! Heck I MIGHT NOT Always race a V-ROD :-o
How's Momma Feelling? Wishing here WELL!
I hope you go as fast as you dare no matter what it's on :-D
HOPE TO SEE,AND THE NEW FAM  SOON,
Kaz
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: landracing on August 01, 2008, 11:26:13 PM

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Kaz, Kaz, Kaz........you know as well as I that if you want to go really fast it's probably not going to happen on a HD, and if does there will be lots of agony to get there and you be broke.........sound familiar?? I WANT TO GO REALLY FAST!!

Scott
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Scott,

Damn I never thought you would go to the other side. I enjoyed your harley build... But your statement above man o man, You need to talk to John Minnono, he went 223 on a HD first time out with his new harley and it didnt even run very good...... darn went from a innovative harley junkie who just wanted to build what he wanted, to a just another busa guy.... :(   Just joking. I anxiously await what you do different on the busa from the others... Keep the creative side into the busa project...

Jon
Title: Re: Harley to real bike
Post by: isiahstites on August 02, 2008, 12:40:03 AM


Kaz, Kaz, Kaz........you know as well as I that if you want to go really fast it's probably not going to happen on a HD, and if does there will be lots of agony to get there and you be broke.........sound familiar?? I WANT TO GO REALLY FAST!!

Scott
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Scott,

truckstop I never thought you would go to the other side. I enjoyed your harley build... But your statement above man o man, You need to talk to John Minnono, he went 223 on a HD first time out with his new harley and it didnt even run very good...... darn went from a innovative harley junkie who just wanted to build what he wanted, to a just another busa guy.... :(   Just joking. I anxiously await what you do different on the busa from the others... Keep the creative side into the busa project...

Jon

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Jon,

       I have seen John Minnono's bike in detail and he built a helluva bike! I have a lot of respect for the time, money and energy that went in that moster. I believe the difference in building a fast HD and a fast Busa is budget. For the money I put into the Buell I will go 175 mph and if I am lucky 180 mph tops. Now if I would of put the same money into a busa I could at least be over 200 mph.

Also Jon, if what is in my head gets built the way I see it you will still think I am innovative and that I just want to build. First thing to go bye, bye on this busa will be the frame.

Scott
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: V8Pinto on August 02, 2008, 02:14:46 AM
Scott,

I enjoyed your Harley build and look forward to seeing you in the staging lanes no matter what kind of ride you're on. 

I second Deb's comments.  Looking forward to your Busa build!  $2,300 is a smokin deal.

Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 02, 2008, 02:16:39 AM
Scott,

I enjoyed your Harley build and look forward to seeing you in the staging lanes no matter what kind of ride you're on. 

I second Deb's comments.  Looking forward to your Busa build!  $2,300 is a smokin deal.



Shane - Maybe one day I will be as fast as the rest  of you guys!



I washed the bike this evening so I didn't get dirty every time I walked passed the bike and it sure makes my $2700 deal feel that much sweeter when the bike looks better.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Hayabusa%20Build/100_2968.jpg)

The cover with the roadrash is cracked and I think it is leaking oil.........what is it??
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Hayabusa%20Build/100_2969.jpg)

Thanks guys,
Scott
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: John Noonan on August 02, 2008, 02:23:08 AM
Scott,

That cover that is rashed is a starter cover and is a very cheap part to replace, order one and a new gasket and you are good to go..very cheap!

J
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: racin jason on August 02, 2008, 02:48:33 AM
Welcome to the FAST side Scott! $2700 for the bike $13,000 for a good turbo system!

John you have any spare starter cover plugs? the big one that covers the crank end?
mine strip themselves!
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: Sumner on August 02, 2008, 12:08:24 PM
........... $13,000 for a good turbo system!............

Jason what all are you including in that $13,000 (heck that would be my Soc. Sec. for a year)?

Thanks,

Sum
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 02, 2008, 12:10:18 PM
........... $13,000 for a good turbo system!............

Jason what all are you including in that $13,000 (heck that would be my Soc. Sec. for a year)?

Thanks,

Sum

Sum,

        From what I have seen it is a complete kit with everything, however Jason or John can elaborate more. I am going to build as much as I can to keep the cost down.

Scott
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: Sumner on August 02, 2008, 12:26:19 PM
........... $13,000 for a good turbo system!............

Jason what all are you including in that $13,000 (heck that would be my Soc. Sec. for a year)?

Thanks,

Sum

Sum,

        From what I have seen it is a complete kit with everything, however Jason or John can elaborate more. I am going to build as much as I can to keep the cost down.

Scott


Turbo/intercooler/pipes??  Or is that with rods, pistons, computer changes??

Yes I will be building everything except for the turbo itself.  I really need to start learning more in this area fast.  I can see $600-900 for a turbo, but Bob Moreland told me for our limited use he would go with one of the China turbos.  I don't know if he still feels that way or not (John N. what about it??).  Anybody ever use twin turbos on a 'busa.  I have 2 IHI's off of a Maserati bi-turbo that was a 2.8 liter motor and they would produce enough boost to blow the motor up more than once and is the reason they came to live with me.  The Maserati got a sbc transplant.

Ok I need good rods and pistons $600-$800 for a set of each of those.  I still don't see why I can't get megasquirt to work with this setup (Rick went darn fast with one).  What else are going to be the big money items or a bunch of smaller money items like clutch, maybe trans. mods.  I need to know.

Intercoolers have also come way down, but I have more options with the car to package things and you might also with a streamliner, but I can see on a bike everything has to be as compact as possible.

Thanks,

Sum
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: Super Kaz on August 02, 2008, 12:41:40 PM
........... $13,000 for a good turbo system!............

Jason what all are you including in that $13,000 (heck that would be my Soc. Sec. for a year)?

Thanks,

Sum

Sum,

        From what I have seen it is a complete kit with everything, however Jason or John can elaborate more. I am going to build as much as I can to keep the cost down.

Scott


Turbo/intercooler/pipes??  Or is that with rods, pistons, computer changes??

Yes I will be building everything except for the turbo itself.  I really need to start learning more in this area fast.  I can see $600-900 for a turbo, but Bob Moreland told me for our limited use he would go with one of the China turbos.  I don't know if he still feels that way or not (John N. what about it??).  Anybody ever use twin turbos on a 'busa.  I have 2 IHI's off of a Maserati bi-turbo that was a 2.8 liter motor and they would produce enough boost to blow the motor up more than once and is the reason they came to live with me.  The Maserati got a sbc transplant.

Ok I need good rods and pistons $600-$800 for a set of each of those.  I still don't see why I can't get megasquirt to work with this setup (Rick went darn fast with one).  What else are going to be the big money items or a bunch of smaller money items like clutch, maybe trans. mods.  I need to know.

Intercoolers have also come way down, but I have more options with the car to package things and you might also with a streamliner, but I can see on a bike everything has to be as compact as possible.

Thanks,

Sum

Sum,
Check out this website to My and I Think Jason's Turbo Builder .
Richard Peppler of RCC Turbos http://rccturbos.com/ .
Check the Ultra Kit as that ought give you all the answers that you asked
The Bi-Turbo's are JUNK as I used to have one and did a complete engine resto with new Turbo's and everything!
You get what you pay for and those china Turbos won't last a Month.
Good Luck and Keeps us posted,
Kaz...............
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 14, 2008, 12:09:07 PM
Well thanks to some over the phone tech support from John Noonan I was able to "hot wire" the bike yesterday and get her running. I also after some very low speed handling and brake tests was able to ride her and open it up just a tiny bit...........the motor feels real strong.

Scott
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: DahMurf on August 14, 2008, 12:19:44 PM
wow!  :-o you're brave!

Glad to hear it's a runner!

Deb
Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: racin jason on August 14, 2008, 01:00:57 PM
Sum ,
 A basic 280hp turbo kit runs around $4k no internal mods needed. A handy guy could build some of the pipes and header and save some money. Richard will sell you components if you like.

Another turbo builder started supplying the chinese turbos and soon switched baack after many quality control issues.

I built a turbo honda 600 starting with a IHI turbo. I used header u bends and rad hoses to connect the trubo to the intercooler and plenum. The bike made 210hp and i had less than $1000 in the whole kit ( I got the turbo for free)

The 640 hp kit is $13k plus rods, pistons, studs, trans mission,lock up clutch, hd output shaft.
Figure around $17-20k all in.

One things for sure once you get a taste for boost you will be turning it up.

Title: Re: Harley to Hayabusa
Post by: isiahstites on August 14, 2008, 01:28:40 PM
Sum ,
 A basic 280hp turbo kit runs around $4k no internal mods needed. A handy guy could build some of the pipes and header and save some money. Richard will sell you components if you like.

Another turbo builder started supplying the chinese turbos and soon switched baack after many quality control issues.

I built a turbo honda 600 starting with a IHI turbo. I used header u bends and rad hoses to connect the trubo to the intercooler and plenum. The bike made 210hp and i had less than $1000 in the whole kit ( I got the turbo for free)

The 640 hp kit is $13k plus rods, pistons, studs, trans mission,lock up clutch, hd output shaft.
Figure around $17-20k all in.

One things for sure once you get a taste for boost you will be turning it up.



Jason,

          640 hp is a lot for a single engine bike! How much of the 640 have you been able to plant to the salt in your best guestimate? 400-450 maybe??

I have not ridden a turbo bike, but just riding the stock busa right now is enough to get me hooked!

Scott