Good luck on the venture Bob. I'm stuck out here in Utah where there's nothing to do. :-D How long do you have for a course and shut off? WaynoHey Elmo,
Bob,
Can I make an announcement in the next Bonneville Racing News for you? It should kick up some more interest and supporters for you. I'll add the organization to the list of LSR contacts printed in each issue too.
Who are all the founders? Experienced LSR guys? How's the track's surface? Length? Active airport? Shut down? Staging area? Have you made any test runs? ECTA tech and classes? Camping potential? Motels nearby? Target date for first meet? Contact phone # and email?
Wendy Jeffries, Editor
Bonneville Racing News
salt@pollybutte.net
Hey Wendy welcome to landracing.com :-).
http://www.wendyjeffries.com/BRN.htm
Trip distance: 3276.63 miles Time: 48 hrs 37 mins
QuoteTrip distance: 3276.63 miles Time: 48 hrs 37 mins
(3276+3276) / 25 mpg * $4.50 gas = $1,180
Hmm. . . I might have to stick with El Mirage for the moment.
Slim has the connections and the power - with the snap of his fingers he could comandeer the Macinaw bridge for the most unique venue in the world, unfortunately his pride and some secret photos preculude him from doing so!
.................regarding our vehicles noise disturbing the resident population of Upland Sandpipers on this long unused airbase, which they classify as a "threatened species........................
Some specifics regarding August 16th;
We will meet the media, as in a local newspaper and the area TV people at 10 am at the south end of the main runway.
No racing, just a demo,familiarity for a few LSR souls and and meet the community.
We are deciding, based on information currently being gathered , what dates would be the best concession to allow the most participants. Between the Bird Refuge conflict, and 2009's schedule of events being held by long established LSR organizations, we are really squeezed. We have a few options we are exploring, and should have which weekend posted in a few weeks. We will set up a discounted preregistration arrangement to gauge participant attendance at that time, with accompanying event info.
Everyone should have the opportunity to attempt to create a new LSR site, it would really give you a renewed respect for the continuing efforts of the likes ECTA and SCTA.
BOBW...whining
Actually, we recently upgraded our safety coverage to two Professional Firefighters, a fire truck w/auto extrication equipt and Foam, and an Ambulance.
Bob W
Loring in August is now on the schedule.
Hope to see you running 240mph Mr. Caputo!
I don't know about fast, but the three from Texas will be Entropy, JohnnyCheese, and myself. Maybe more to come.
Your Quote; "You guys on the coasts seem to have all the fun... don't worry Carl, after the "big one" your venue will be on the coast too".
Refers to ? The LSR Event Here In Lovelock? Haven't heard a word locally on this, but, who am I?
We all go 25 mph faster @ a time, one increment per run. The only considerations will be to current SCTA/ECTA Comp licenses, but the rookie run policy will apply.
Your best bet is to make a rookie pass for everyone. Set a maximum speed for the first run. If the surface is bumpy or there are transitions or anything that could make it remotely tricky make the first pass a maximum of 150 mph. Let them grumble and err on the safe side. The policy at El Mirage is to make them do it again if they run too fast on the first pass.
Bob, You are the Lord God and High Master and don't let anyone say otherwise. After the first race you can sit down and review things and adjust for the next race.
What is the transition from concrete to asphalt at the 1000 ft mark? Smooth? And the other transitions back to concrete 6/10 of a mile past the finish? Concrete to asphalt 8/10 past the finish and at the end of the pavement 1 mile past? When they hit that sandy soil how hard is it? With a mile to stop I would make the end of the pavement out of bounds.
At Bonneville any vehicle over 175 requires a parachute. At El Mirage 160. Vehicles over 300 require two independent parachutes . At El Mirage the requirement is 250 mph. All vehicles that have a parachute must use them on every run. Even the rookie pass.
Make a mandatory drive down the course for all participants before running so they can see what the track looks like. All the way to the hard stop at the fence or what ever is going to be the end.
Make sure the finish line is very well marked! Have a secondary marking in case somebody misses the finish line. You chew up territory really fast when you are still accelerating past the finish line. If the surface is "older asphalt country road" there could be enough vibration that somebody won't see the finish line. It happens at El Mirage, and I'll bet the lake bed is flatter then your runway.
The surface has to be better then Maxton. The Maxton rookie orientation trip is not a bad idea. Competitors with an A license from Bonneville can go as fast as their license permits first time out as long as they do the orientation course. It works.
Joe
I personally have reservations about anybody that would go over 175 on a track he/she never saw or drove before, especially on a Motorcycle.
Yes my first pass at Maxton was over 200 mph,
perhaps Guthrie remembers.
Yes, I do, #45
My rookie pass at Texas was 244 MPH
#4
Yes my first pass at Maxton was over 200 mph,
perhaps Guthrie remembers.
Yes, I do, #45
My rookie pass at Texas was 244 MPH
#4
Didn't someone do that at BUB and win a little coin for displacement to speed. Sorry a little off topic.
Yeah Deb that will be cool when a 50cc YSR runs in the APS UF (Altered Partial Streamlined UNLIMITED Fuel) class and sets a record at 55mph..I am sure the holder will be real proud.. :roll:Make it like real racing..
Awe never mind. just get the money... :cheers:
Am I the only one that thinks the speeds at Loring are not going to be THAT much faster? I am thinking a little faster but not what people are imagining. It still takes set-up and Hp, correct? I do realize that with the extra distance, extra Hp in a turbo bike can be applied and more importantly the sharp corners of little mistakes (shift points, throttle control...) are smoothed out. But do you all really think people are going to be pulling 10-15 mph out of their butts :| I checked with the guys that have run the 1.5 over the pond... this is why I am thinking this way.
Bill
Bill,
Trust me you guys and gals are going to go at least 5-10 mph faster, the guys over the pond have never equaled the speeds we as a group have done over here whether at El Mirage, Texas, Bonneville and Maxton.
They have had a few fast passes and the fastest ever recorded at 265.4 mph however that was done by Frank with a 35+ mph tailwind as told to me by a fellow racer that did race the same weekend. The return speeds were much less and the average was less than 250 for the two way.
Their is another event there in Sept and if their is not a lot of wind or moisture is will be a good comparison to the speeds you folks will run at Loring.
John
John
The best part about you and the Blue Bird rally is that some of the rally folks set up on the return road with a chalk board and hold it up with the speed displayed as you come by.
Hope they going to do it again this year ...
Joe
John
The best part about you and the Blue Bird rally is that some of the rally folks set up on the return road with a chalk board and hold it up with the speed displayed as you come by.
Hope they going to do it again this year ...
Joe
The chalkboard speeds right at the end is definitely nice just so long as they "contain" the kids! :evil: Nothing will scare the beejeeses out of you more then a kid darting out from behind a BIG motorhome on a bike when you least expect it :-o especially if you're rolling while adjusting the after race things (and checking the GPS! :-D )
It will be great to see the wabbit & co up there! Just like a little piece of home! ;)
Debbie
Check out... http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/7772641.jpg
NICE pic of the track, thanks!
My Car... http://www.ecta-lsr.com/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=topn&cat=0&pos=27
Going to LTA/09
dang, what motor do you have in that nice Kawasaki green eco-car to get you to 160mph???
what are you hoping for in 1.5mi??
Of course right. I'll book the room as soon as I hear the discount.
"Or will camping be allowed at or near the venue?"
Official word as of today regarding camping on the grounds.
The Loring Development Authority oversees the grounds, and it's their decision not to allow camping or any overnight presence on the property. There are businesses occupying nearby buildings that the LDA feels would be uncomfortable with this .
I have not checked out Campgrounds in the vicinity, but do know they do exist.
I will explore options, as in another approach.
BOB W
I forwarded these concerns about RVs/campers/ trailers/etc to my Maine Man, He'll have answers quick. We'll re approach the LDA about this, emphasizing our need for security for race cars, trailers, and LTA equipt left out overnight.
I feel relatively confidant we can work something out, as it seems inefficient parking off base when there are 14,000 acres of nothing up there.
Hang in there, we'll get back on this.
BOB W
Hey RV Fans, how's this for service ? We have secured an area for parking large rigs near the runway, on the grounds. It is just West of the Golf Course of The Limestone Country Club Golf Course, and can be found on the MapQuest map of Loring AFB .
This is all obviously preliminary, but it seems this problem is solved and conventional camping should also be arranged shortly. Let me emphasize there are no "hook ups" or electric available, but we are working on an area enclave specifically for LTA people. Hang in there, we are on it like a bum on a baloney sandwich....
BobW, The Lone Arranger
I just heard about this event. THANKS for putting it together. I have never gone Land Speed Racing, but have wanted to go to Bonneville to join the 130MPH Club (or make an attempt anyway) on my motorcycle for a few years now. Circumstances and finances have prevented it. Now, only a short 10 or 11 hour drive away, I hope to be able to make it to the inaugural event. Not to mention my fiancee has lived on Loring (her dad was stationed there) she is anxious to bring me there. I'm new to the sport so go easy on me, but I anticipate building something to compete for records some time in the future. :cheers:
You're on for the beer!!!! I will hopefully be riding my 92 Virago the 11 hour ride from the Upper Valley, VT, to Loring. I will be there, Spectator or Participant.
My fiancee was stationed there 78-82 and owns LoringAirForceBase.com (http://www.loringairforcebase.com/ ) and will be posting links to this event on her site, probably tomorrow. It has already been posted to the Loring Yahoo Group and to the Loring Ramp Rats site (42nd Security Police Squadron - includes Law Enforcement, K-9, Security Police, etc. - http://www.loringramprats.com . )
By the way, she says that The Rendezvous, the little pizza joint (with bar) outside the East Gate road is great. It's a must-go whenever she's up there.
I'm looking forward to the 24 +/- hour ride on the bike! Speed safe!
:cheers:
Here's a link to NOAA weather for Loring. Looks pretty good as of right now -- 8.45 Tuesday morning.
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Loring+AFB&state=ME&site=CAR&textField1=46.9404&textField2=-67.8948&e=0
Most recent forecast looks great for Sat & Sun, Hey to Greg, and tedgram sorry to hear the news.:cheers: