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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: 17dracing on February 03, 2008, 12:32:27 AM
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Well I'm going to try and post some pics. of our car !!! Got our hotel rooms for world of speed !!! Now we just have to finish the car !!!!
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Well I figured out how to shink my file sizes to get my pix. to down load !! So here are some more !!!
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17, nice looking tank, hope to see you on the salt.
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Classic tanks are fantastic, and yours looks great.
I'm very curious about the motor. Can't place it, from the side view that's a very flat looking head.
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..........you've got it , and you've got it bad.... 8-)
more photo's please , only bigger !!.......more info too.....
come on , give over :wink:
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Yep a classic tank indeed, well done.
What are the plans with the rollcage, etc? Enclosed or old school?
Rev.H+
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Ok we are running a 1954 302 GMC 6 banger ! 30 over with 670 holley 4 barrel carb ,SRL cam shaft ,patricks intake manifold ,my custom header ( old hemi header ) I started on this car about 4 months ago , going to try and get the chassis painted in a week or so !!! This is a 42" tank !!! So we sure have plenty of room ! Not enough for a big screen but at least we can be comfortable ! Would love to take it down to Maxton in april to test it out !!! I'm going to post some earlier pix. !!! Keep in mind I have only built drag cars and Pro street cars so this is a first for me !!! Yes we have it bad !!!
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started 4 months ago!!!?!!!?!!????
...um...
ok. well done
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So when did we start
I've forgotten
G
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17draracing, where in the midwest are you located? I am also building a GMC 6 banger for land speed racing.
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I got the body in Oct. I work on it as much as I can ,and that has been alot of hours !!! We are in Indiana almost the Ohio line !!! It has transformed alot in a short time ! Originally was going to be a V-4 car !
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Looks like you are going to do a windscreen that is the shape of the tank, have you found anyone that will make that shape for you from Lexan?? Steve Nelson has his lakester done except for the windscreen and he is having a really hard time finding anyone that can make the windscreen out of Lexan that you can see thru. He has a couple of attempts from several guys that are so wavy that it would make you sick to look thru!!
Rex
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Try Gustafsson Plastics in St. Augustine, FL. Leif makes zillions of bike screens and hasmade a couple of custom ones for us -- based on drawings that I sent him. The cost is reasonable, the time from his receipt of your order to delivery of the screen is short -- less than a week for me -- and he keeps the drawings on file you can modify, if necessary, or re-order. I don't remember for sure -- I think it's www.bikescreen.com or something like that.
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Are windows are done and in the car ! The white protective coating is still on the glass ,so we don't scratch or get over spray on them .They are made of Makorlon (Poly carbonate) I did them myself . The stuff is a bit expensive but it sure is slick to work with !!! You can work this stuff like sheet metal ! Break it ,shear it , drill it ,I have even put beads in it on my bead roller !!! you can even smash it with a hammer !!!! (I do that just to demonstrate how tuff it is to people) Lexan will crack and bust and distort ! This does none of that !!! About $150 for a 4x8 sheet out of Mcmastercarr !
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Well we now have the brake lines ran and done ! Fire bottle and lines hooked up and ready ! Getting ready to finish up battery box and wiring work ! Body is getting painted next weekend ! So hopefully I can have some pix posted after it is painted !!!
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Quick update !!! Body is now painted ,will have pix posted soon !!! Few parts to finish welding on the chassis and it to will be ready for paint !!! Then the fun begins !!!! Putting it all back together !!! Thanks for everyones support on landracing.com !!!!
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Looking good 17. Hey Rex, I used Aircraft Windshield in Los Alamitos. They formed my screen from PETG. It basically has the properties of Lexan but is optically better. Wayno
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If you set a pace at Bonneville that even comes close to the speed that you're putting this car together, you're going to walk away with hats and hardware.
I see your work ethic, and I am ashamed of myself!
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If you set a pace at Bonneville that even comes close to the speed that you're putting this car together, you're going to walk away with hats and hardware.
I see your work ethic, and I am ashamed of myself!
he's not of this earth , he was sent here to shame us....... I think there's a gonna have to be a "Witchin'".......maybe a dunking chair .
Good work 17 you're an inspiration to us all. :wink:
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Quit it you guys !!! Your going to jinx us !!! Well I learned everything I do from my Pops !! He used to build pro street cars in about 3 weeks from pretty much scratch , to have them ready for a car show that would be coming up SOON !!! Don't let the few months fool you !! I have a ton of hours in this car , just ask my wife and kids !!! I think they are still here somewhere !!!! I do need a little help though ? What gears should we take along ? 5500 rpm's max with a 32" tall tire !!! We are running a 9" ford , just to stay away from the 10 or 15% hp. loss from a quick change . We are going to start out with a 260 ratio . And we will be taking a few other pigs just in case my head is not on right !!! My motto is " TO GET SOMETHING DONE YOU MUST FIRST DO SOMETHING !!! "
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I do need a little help though ? What gears should we take along ? 5500 rpm's max with a 32" tall tire !!! We are running a 9" ford , just to stay away from the 10 or 15% hp. loss from a quick change . We are going to start out with a 260 ratio .
Go to Sumner's site, here's the link
http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/bville-spreadsheet-index.html
He's got a pile of spreadsheets that you can punch your numbers into, and it will give you a really good idea exactly what you're going to have to have in order to be competitive.
He requests that you send him a dollar for the sheets - it will be the single most cost effective investment you will spend on this sport.
On top of that, his lakester build diary is a fascinating read.
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he's not of this earth , he was sent here to shame us....... I think there's a gonna have to be a "Witchin'".......maybe a dunking chair .
"Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?"
But if he floats like a duck, that means he's made of wood, and then we have to burn him at the stake.
Sorry, Doc, I can't set fire to a fellow Midwesterner!
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....that gearing looks like about 35mph per 1000rpm ....... you could probably use a shorter diff early on until you really want to push things along .
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Ok as promised I have some pix. of the body !!! It is now almost 2:00 am and we are done for the night !!!( Back to where I said we have tons of hours in this build ) Well here are some pix.
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Elvis Cadillac Pink and Banana Yellow - you won't lose THAT one in the parking lot! Very nice!
Back to the drive train, and specifically the transmission. What tranny and gearset are you running?
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Tranny is a 3 spd. out of a 1955 chevy truck ! Super short ,fits great !We are going to use 2nd and 3rd gear only .Using Hyd. clutch . Not sure what gears are in it yet ! But we will find out and change them if needed, soon as we get our motor done! Waiting on our dome pistons to get here !!
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Well it's back on the ground !! Working on some small stuff now !!! The car is not really pink ,it is redish orange and a deep yellow . We had way to much lighting on it in the last pix. Have to run to the speed shop tommorow to get more goodies !!!! But here is another pix to check out !!!
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Well it's back on the ground !! Working on some small stuff now !!! The car is not really pink ,it is redish orange and a deep yellow . We had way to much lighting on it in the last pix. Have to run to the speed shop tommorow to get more goodies !!!! But here is another pix to check out !!!
phew....I didn't want to say anything , I mean people's reason's for choosing colors can be , shall we say "complex" , and I'll be the first person the say that yellow things look good on the salt.......but that "pink" had me worried.....
It looks great , you've done well and I'm sure I ain't the only one to say I'm eagerly waiting to see the results on the track........
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Yes ,we are not pink lovers here at all !!! This car has been a blast to build !!! We are ready to get it running though !!! I have a tube chassis 1970 Monte Carlo drag car to build still ,and I just bought me a 1979 Malibu to go drag racing with this year !! Oh yeah, I haven't even started on it yet !!! I would love to have the lakester running by Maxton mile in April !!! "It's the little things that eat the time on my watch " !!!
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Our view looking out !!! Like looking through glass !!! No distortion at all !!! Some times I just get lucky !!!!!
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My humblest apologies - my "color commentary" was never meant to be offensive. But I stand by my statement that you won't lose it in the parking lot!
We're ALL cheering you on, and if the Monte or the Malibu doesn't distract you, I think Maxton is a very realistic goal.
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A little "pink" on the salt looks good....
Hey, the Burkdall Liner was pink....
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We have 3 girls and they wouldn't mind it painted pink !!!! No offence taken here !! I have been taking pix with my cell phone , they don't show colors very well !! And my digital camera seems to take to large of a image to down load .But I love to show our progress on Landracing.com This site has been so helpfull as stated before ! We are going to try and get it outside tommorow , it's not supposed to snow !!!!! But our weather people have been wrong before !!! While we are waiting on the motor ,I might go ahead and get some lettering cut and put on it !!!
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17 great job
you can download your pics to photobucket and resize them to 500x375
or get photoshop elements program to resize your own.
hope to see you maxton in april
later
robbie
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Well it was 55 and sunny , just long enough to get some more pix. !!!!
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what a Bitchin Ride
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Looks great 17. We need bigger pictures.
Pete
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Aboslutely classic. Every cue is perfect - Fire it up and go racing, chief!
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Will look forward to seeing go by the timing trailer and announcing your first trip down the long black line. :-)
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Ok the pictures did it! lets get it to Maxton! Come by the shop and i will loan you (sponsor) a new 322 GMC ready to run. Got to run some of our decals and fix it it ya break it. Might even owe your old man a favor or two. You can come get it sat ??
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Jim ! I will see you saturday !!! I'm going to bring my camera ! I think I want to build a old gasser dragster like yours !!! Thanks for the 322 ,yes it is a big shot in the arm !!!! Are you guys leaving thursday or friday for Maxton ? Here is another pix. of it !!!!! Worked on it for about 5 hrs. tonight !!! 3759 xo/gl is our # , got it on last night during the ice storm !!!
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We plan on leaving thursday morning. One of our guys has made the trip to Charolete a few times and has a good route ( famous last words).
See ya sat sometime..
Jim
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Got to love a blizzard !!!! When you really just want to go get something done !!! If you don't like the weather in Indiana ,just hang around a couple days it will change !!!! Well I'm sending in my entry fees for Maxton tommorow morn. So it looks like we get to try it out before Bonneville !!!!
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Gotta love these midwestern winters that just won't go away. Keep it between the fenceposts, Hoosier Hotrodder - it should be warmer when you get to Maxton.
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.......................If you don't like the weather in Indiana ,just hang around a couple days it will change !!!!...........
Heck in Wyoming you didn't have to wait days, just a few minutes 8-). Great lakester build guys and I wish you the best. I'll be looking for how you do at Maxton and I look forward to seeing it on the salt. Take lots of pictures,
Sum
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Well we got the motor !! Thanks Jim !!! (Linder Technical Services) out of Indianapolis In. Great guys awesome shop !!! Well we plan to have it in by monday or tuesday night,waiting on some parts to come in so we can get it fired up !! Thinking about raising ride height for Maxton ,so that will be something else i will be working on !!! Here is another pix. (getting ready to drop motor in )!!!
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Glad to help ! I got to thinking ( terrible thing ) its kinda selfish to keep these old engines sitting on the engine stand ,they were made to run so lets run em!
I will get your ignition system built and out to ya as well as my oil priming tool .
Let me know when need anything else. Me and the boys can ride over your way for the firing up party if you need some help. Got to hear this one run.
:-D
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Jim I did have to change our motor mounts ,our block is the milatary one ,with the taller bolt pattern on drivers side ,no biggie though it's done already, and in the car !!! My boy wants to work in your shop now,he was impressed !!!Well I have spent enuffff time on here ,I better get back to work !!! Yes you guys are more than welcome to head over ,should be ready by the end of the week !!!
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Never replied before, but your emails from all you guys inspire me, as I work on my new (old) D/SR here in Kansas City....in the middle of a good 'ole midwestern winter. I am just the opposite of you, began building my 27 Highboy in '81 for the street, but spent time at B'ville in the '70's...when I worked for Holley....thought they was all nuts! Now I guess I'm nuts too. Mine is Car 778 (number to be confirmed) and its Hugger Orange running a Boss 302. Building it by myself in my small 2 car garage......Good Luck to you guys, I'll see you at the Salt for a week of fun. Give me your address, and when I come through Indy, I'll stop by.....Keep up the great work!
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Bruts,
You are more than welcome to stop by in Indy when in town. We are on gasoline alley , west side by the Indy 500 track. Stop by when ya get a chance. Bubbas Hot Rod Shop and Linder Fuel Injection, 30G Gasoline Alley Indianapolis Indiana
www.lindertech.com
www.gasolinealleyshops.org
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Erin,
I built you a killer ignition system today. Electronic module (GM parts), custom wires and a msd killer ignition coil. Also sent ya the oil pump primer for the engine. Let me know when ya get it.
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Great !! I will let you know !!! Thanks again !!! We got the fuel pump in and mounted,dual oil filters in and mounted ! Were going to use the original oil fill tube and breather (just for the cool factor) ! 3 weeks and counting down !!!!!!
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Thanks for the invite! Tonight, I am pulling my custom built independent suspension out of my former street rod and picked up my narrowed (53") 9" Ford axle out of a totally wasted 81 Ford Pick-Up at Pick a Part here in Kansas City. Hopefully, I will have it in by this weekend with the exception of the final welding on the traction bars. I am using a Panhard Bar in the rear. Next to finish up my "all-in-one" push bar/chute anchor/chute pack bar (totally adjustable by the way) that goes up and over the rear lower deck of my '27 Ford Roadster. Last time I was at the Brickyard was with Jim Wheeler, who owns Powerdyne Centrifical Superchargers. He was brought up around Indy Cars, and is Joey "JR" Granatelli's God Father. He also owns a couple of the Indy Roadsters on display in the museum....was a great time seeing the cars and history at the museum! Well, back to the roadster. After the push bar final fit, on to the Boss 302.....maybe I should switch to a GMC 302. A friend of mine has one in a HAMB Dragster that he is just finishing up, with all the best parts, like yours.
Thanks Again! Have a Great Day!
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you guys keep talking up the Jimmy 302s and I may have to put a different eng in my bobber '42 truck..
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17...
I'm ashamed of taking so long to build my project. I want some of the drugs you take so I can have that much energy. Seriously, the car looks good and I'd be really interested to know how it runs.
Another Kansas City, 302 Jimmy builder here. This one is going in a HAMB dragster.
321 cid, 12:1 CR, 8.111 c-c rods, JE pistons, Dema Elgin cam, self built aluminum roller rocker assembly, self built 3 x 2 Intake with Rochester 2GC carbs. Not sure what the header will be but will test several on the engine dyno at K&M Machine Shop in Raytown. Fortunately I have lots of time available on the dyno since I dyno and tune all their engines.
Ron
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Ron can I get a pix. of your roller rocker assembly ? Thanks !!!! No drugs here just the excitement of getting it done !!!!! Can't wait !!!!!
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17...
I'm ashamed of taking so long to build my project. I want some of the drugs you take so I can have that much energy. Seriously, the car looks good and I'd be really interested to know how it runs.
Another Kansas City, 302 Jimmy builder here. This one is going in a HAMB dragster.
321 cid, 12:1 CR, 8.111 c-c rods, JE pistons, Dema Elgin cam, self built aluminum roller rocker assembly, self built 3 x 2 Intake with Rochester 2GC carbs. Not sure what the header will be but will test several on the engine dyno at K&M Machine Shop in Raytown. Fortunately I have lots of time available on the dyno since I dyno and tune all their engines.
Ron
Ron,
You making the Goodguys Indy event this year? Hamb drags later on?
We are putting a trans in my hambster , didnt work very well without one..Car actually hooked up the few runs we tried last year. Oh well it sounded good at the time :-o
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My email:
Goldenri@aol.com
Ron
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Damn computer.
Email me and I'll get back to you.
Bubba...I'll try to make Indy.
Ron
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It's been killing me not knowing how far you've gotten in the last few weeks.
Your fans demand an update!
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GMC Bubba, you are the one I talked to at the Hamb drags at Mo-Kan last August and you had the red and white ford pickup at Speedweek last year or the year before, right? I, also am building a 302 GMC 6 banger to go in my 53 Studebaker LSR car, efi and turbocharged.
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GMC Bubba, you are the one I talked to at the Hamb drags at Mo-Kan last August and you had the red and white ford pickup at Speedweek last year or the year before, right? I, also am building a 302 GMC 6 banger to go in my 53 Studebaker LSR car, efi and turbocharged.
Ya thats us, getting ready to run Maxton in a couple weeks and just fired the gmc hamb dragster toady. Going to install a transmission ( been trying direct drive with clutch) and make some changes to the ventilation on the engine. had a oil leak 3rd round at MoKan last year.
The engine i loaned the boys for their lakester is a killer engine from bottom to top. They should run well in the lakester....
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Well Jim ,we made it back ! Thanks for letting us come over !!! That was pretty cool ,and some cool rides sure did show up !!!! If anyone is around Indianapolis you need to check out Jim's shop's !!!For everyone else we are just a couple days away from firing it up !!!! Still going to try to make the april Maxton show ,but we are thinking of just waiting until the may show !!!! To make sure everything is all good ,and have time to build a custom open trailer !!! I will post more pix. soon !!!!!
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Well Jim ,we made it back ! Thanks for letting us come over !!! That was pretty cool ,and some cool rides sure did show up !!!! If anyone is around Indianapolis you need to check out Jim's shop's !!!For everyone else we are just a couple days away from firing it up !!!! Still going to try to make the april Maxton show ,but we are thinking of just waiting until the may show !!!! To make sure everything is all good ,and have time to build a custom open trailer !!! I will post more pix. soon !!!!!
Thanks for coming over, let me know as we get closer to fire up time. Car looks really good.
Everyone over here thought it was pretty neat as well.
I should know something on the starter this week.
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WELL, WHATS GOING ON ?
Lets get er done !! I still havent heard anymore on the starter i send it for repair.... :-o
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Been sick all week !!! Gonna put the hammer down this weekend !!!!! Got to get shifter hooked up , and slave cyl. for the clutch mounted !!!! Itching to hear this baby run !!!!
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Maxton weather isnt looking good! A long tow to find rain may cancel our trip tomorrow based on area forecast??
Bus is loaded and ready though.. :-(
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You'll be pissed when you find out it was just cloudy, with a little fog in the morning. You are at home, they are racing...
(ask the guys that didn't go to Speedweek last year)
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From my limited experience [half dozen or so trips down] Maxton can have it's own seperate weather pattern often unlike reports from either Charlotte or Wilmington on the coast. We have gone down in the rain, come back in the rain, and had it rain while there. Never happened to catch a total washout yet, course dries fast. Shower delays are just an excuse to better enjoy the car show.
We will be loading today and plan on heading out tomorrow morning with the 260 RMR. I'll be looking for the Blue bus, gotta pick your brain and maybe steal some tech [thinking on a similar set up for a lakester under construction].
Ed Purinton
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Hey Jim you could hold off !!! Go next month when we do !!! Maybe even get more runs in !!!! We are still trying to get the starter done "Waiting" !!! Going to start on a new trailer this weekend !!!! Good luck if you already left !!!
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Well ,good decision or bad we voted not to go this meet. We do plan on going before September maybe in May or a later date.
Every weather service on the planet shows rain on sat!
The good side is we cleaned out the hauler, filled her with fuel and rearranged every part in the storage area . We will get there some time this year. :-D
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Ok everyone ,I just thought we would give you a update !!! The car is done and ready to fire up ! I just finished the new trailer . Now we just have to wait !!! Well Ok I'm going to build something else now !!!! I will post some pics. of it on the new trailer this weekend !!!
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Congratulations - we're looking forward to the pics, but more importantly, we're looking to see it go.
Itching to hear this baby run !!!!
Any way you might be able to video the maiden start-up, post it on Youtube, and send us a link? We'd like to hear it, too!
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Well I got the roll cage in the 1970 monte carlo drag car done today ! I just picked up another cool project today ! a 36 dodge truck cab were going to make into a 60's era altered gasser drag car !!! Lakester trailer is being painted now .Man I just love to build cool stuff !!! Trying to come up with something else to build for Bonneville ? Maybe the worlds fastest shopping cart !!!! LOL !!!! Need something to play with while we are out there !!!!!
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Man the Moon disc even make the trailer look fast !!!
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Hi everyone just wanted to update you all ! We fired up the lakester last night ! Man it sure sounds good !!! Trying to figure out now how to post the video ! There is nothing like the sound of horse power !!!!! This little 302 GMC (Thanks to Jim Linder ) sure is going to be a "awesome heart " in our lakester !!!! We are going to now make the test run to check everything out ,then get ready for Maxton in June !!!!
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Ok here is the new update ! Trailer done , Lakester done and running ,now we are starting on the hauler !!! How about a 1949 Chevy Panel truck ? Yep we might as well build something cool to haul this stuff out there with !!! Going to get the front nova clip in this weekend !Should make the ride a little easier on the azzzz !! Got a 350 small block and 5 speed to put in it ! I will post some pix. this weekend ! Most of the trucks paint we already have stripped , we are going to go with flat red on the body and yellow fenders just opposite of the trailer . Should be a pretty cool rig when all hooked up ! We took the lakester to a local car show last weekend ,people around here were blowed away by it !!! Never seen anything like it !!! That is so cool !!!! Can't wait to meet everyone at Bonneville !!!!!
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Late' st up date as of July 4th ! Well looks like everything is a go for Maxton and Bonneville this year ! We are finishing up the panel truck now ! I have since been building a dragster to play with ! You know more than a couple times a year ! It is a 1950's style "design" I'm running a 235 straight 6 and it's getting close to being done ! The class is called HA/GR that I will be running in ! and has to be built from parts no newer than 1962 !!! Pretty cool ! Here is a pix. to check out !
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Pretty clever how you've hidden the pedal linkage!
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Here is the body on it !
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Let's see if I've got this straight -
You throw together a tank in 5 months . . .
and then you build a vintage inline digger in your free time before Bonneville?
Ah, to be young and disenfranchised again . . .
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When you are born into this car building thing , like i was ! It's the only thing you can think about !So with my old man having built about 150 drag and pro street cars over the years , I have to follow suit !!! Or maybe it is a sickness !!! I'm actually starting on # 2 of the HA/GR cars now !! For my co-owner of the Lakester !!! Sucks now though with my new job ,I might not be able to go to Bonneville !!! Definately will make Maxton though !!!
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How inconvient---this having to feed ones family nad to support the habits we acquire---darn JOBS :-D
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I'm not sure what's wrong but all I'm seeing are the dreaded little red x's.
Pete
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Have you used refrigerated eye drops? I don't see any red X's. Maybe you could tell me more about where you see them and I could maybe maybe maybe figure out why they're there.
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My computer states, 404- attachment not found
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Ah -- I see what Glen sees -- guess the photo didn't attach correctly. Sorry for my earlier cornfusion.
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Hey SSS, you had me worried it was my eyes! :roll:
Pete
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Just going to try and download another pix. of my HA/GR car ! Not sure what happened to them !