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Title: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on September 25, 2007, 08:37:23 AM
Just thought I would get in on the action and post a few pictures of the bike that I am hoping to take to Bonneville in 2009. I started to build it from scratch in july this year and all work so far has been done by myself so its not coming on as quick as I would have liked it to.Being in England there is only a few people I can rely on for help as this is the first bike of this kind I have attempted to build.

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on September 25, 2007, 08:44:58 AM
2009  :?  hey get to work, you have 11 months till Speedweek...  :-D
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on September 25, 2007, 08:57:09 AM
I am trying but I think 2009 is more realistic I have to save around 5 grand for the shipping and trip, and build the bike know anyone in the market for a soul its a bit tarnished but I am open to offers.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sumner on September 25, 2007, 09:22:35 AM
Welcome to the addiction.  You are doing some nice work there and looks like you could be done for 2008.  Maybe you can find some sponsorship help to get you over here a year early.

Keep posting pictures,

Sum
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on September 25, 2007, 09:51:19 AM
 :-DThank you.that's real encouraging I would love to run in 08 if circumstances allow best thing is to keep chipping away at it and see how it goes.you never know stranger things happen, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Glen on September 25, 2007, 10:14:28 AM
OZ,Welcome to the forum. Nice looking project. Hope to see it on the salt next year.
Glen :-D
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on September 25, 2007, 10:27:16 AM
Me too thanks for the welcome.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: panchop on September 26, 2007, 12:35:38 AM
I like the fact that you are building a perimeter style frame. i was thinking about the same thing for my old Z1 motored bike but decided not to because  of the difficulty in removing the engine if it needed work. Mind if i ask what your plans are in that case . also doesn't your air box negate the advantages of the frame which i would have thought was the way it allows you to get so low. whatever it looks most excellent.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on September 26, 2007, 05:54:47 AM
Ah Funny you should mention that but all the cases are removable within the frame(took a bit of thinking about) even the Head and the clutch,The engine itself once its finished drops straight out the bottom easily, you just put it on blocks unbolt and you get a buddy to lift the whole chassis over the top you could probably do it solo but easier with a helping hand.
I know what you mean about the air box I reckon I am going to have to rework that as it sits to high but the calculations I have done work out to an 11 litre capacity to get the resonance tuning right so its a bit tricky, could possibly do it with a multitude of forward facing louvers and a much flatter box any ideas?
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on October 03, 2007, 02:46:29 AM
Ah well MK2 Airbox I am a bit happier with this one it doesent present as bigger frontal area as MK1 I can get my elbows in the rescesses and chest on top of it MUCH BETTER still have to do filtering on it but that shouldnt present too much of a problem.

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: stayt`ie on October 03, 2007, 04:17:57 AM
mate, i like to see a "bare bones build" 8-), good work, dont push it, if 09`s your goal, then 09 it will be :-D,,,
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: hawkwind on October 03, 2007, 05:51:03 AM
very interesting Oz ,I enjoy seeing other DIY builds especially what you are doing  :-D
Im also building a 1000 A/BF from an old school GPZ 1000 RX ,there are some riders from down under that are planning to attend 09 as well , enjoy the build and all the best
cheers
Gary
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on October 03, 2007, 06:01:53 AM
Nice one Thanks.Be good to have some like minded drinkin buddys out there thirsty work all thia bike building and riding
Are you running the RX in 09.I was thinking about turboing or supercharging this one but ended up with the nitrous.Dont know if it was a good idea but time will tell
TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: panchop on October 03, 2007, 11:47:04 AM
Ah well MK2 Airbox I am a bit happier with this one it doesent present as bigger frontal area as MK1 I can get my elbows in the rescesses and chest on top of it MUCH BETTER still have to do filtering on it but that shouldnt present too much of a problem.

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nice stuff there. for what it's worth out at BUBs this year i noticed most bikes ran without air filters. I used one on my turbo bike but the turbo sits low and behind the front wheel. just an observation.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: cristdal on October 11, 2007, 11:19:16 AM
Hey Oz - got your words of encouragement today - thanks, much appreciated as always. 
Bike looks like its coming on great, but I didn't expect anything less from you ........ all your work is fantastic!  Keep it up
LIL SIS
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on October 31, 2007, 03:44:34 AM
Finished the new airbox a week or so ago and got it mounted also finished and mounted the MK3 fuel tank that had been a bit of a problem I had to mount that twice as I couldnt get the damm nitrous bottle out the first time

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we are currently designing a nitrous throttle at the moment which if/when it works will do away with the need for a progressive controler pics will follow of actuator once complete.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on November 08, 2007, 07:49:48 AM
managed to get a few days of work this week so took the time to come in and do a bit on the bike so heres what I have done hope this aint gettin too boring

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Look out for those pidgeons! ah well it was tricky to get in and it seems strong enough.

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It welded up ok on the outside.

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and looks ok on.

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Hopefully it should get a bit of airflow through it and cool the electrical bits.

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Mystery bit?

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: panchop on November 08, 2007, 10:05:18 AM
ya got skilz. I really dig the seat/tail piece.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: sockjohn on November 08, 2007, 06:41:44 PM

Mystery bit?

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Servo motor or sensor?  Yup, it's a mystery!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on November 09, 2007, 02:45:00 AM
Thanks it was very time consuming the mystery bit thing is the first part of the nitrous throttle its a 3k potentiometer on a 2 cable return twist grip to be mounted on the left hand, that then goes into a biit of clever electronics that alters the duty cycle of the Nitrous/petrol solenoids from 0% to max whatever that be set at (the electronic bit is being made/designed by Adam Castell one of the lads that I work with only 22 years old but real clever fella) That should get rid of the need for a progressive controler and so long as the bike is in top gear wide open you can have as much or as little as you like when you like, you just have to keep all pipes after the solenoids as short as possible so the system cant resevoir in the tubes or you will lose sensitivity/controlability.

Thats my theory anyway makes sense to me from what ive read so far will let you know how it goes once its set up.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: ol38y on November 09, 2007, 03:27:40 AM
 :-D Definately a lot of scills involved as well as inovation...  Keep the build coming, that seat pan is awsome, comgrats on your insite and ability...   Larry

I hope to run over 200 some day and extreme builds like yours are inspiring. I just need to do a lot more homework... :-D
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: willieworld on December 01, 2007, 07:31:13 PM
i see lots of nice work there --im a long way off but if i can help with anything let me know willie buchta
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 02, 2007, 04:13:26 AM
Nice one Willie Much appreciated I have a head full of questions and ideas which I have no doubt will all come out bit by bit.
Thanks Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 13, 2007, 07:59:16 AM
Just an update I have been a bit busy on the project and would like to thank Willie Buchta for all his help of recent THANKS.
So here are a few more pics I am really starting to like how it is coming together now. A thing of beauty and a joy forever.

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Had to get my ugly mug in there just for scale.

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I reckon another two to three weeks of fabrication then it can be stripped, finish welded in all the little awkward places I cant get too and then its time for Engine work hopefully starting as soon as the christmas break is over.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all.
Cheers OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Larry Forstall on December 13, 2007, 10:42:49 AM
Beautifully done. I consider NO2 to be the hardest discipline of LSR. Lotsa clever ideas in your bike Oz. Making everything work will be the big challenge. The reward of a record is something I hope you get to experience. When you do it yourself, it means more.  LF
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: willieworld on December 13, 2007, 11:44:38 AM
looks good oz  --oz and i have been comparing notes on NOS --CAUTION  if you plan on running NOS and you run a fogger system flow all of your jets --if you run more than 1 fogger even flow the jets that have the same jet number on them i have found that some flow as much as 30% different(even with the same number)  at the very least that would cost a piston   willie buchta
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sumner on December 13, 2007, 11:48:33 AM
Great build and good luck on the salt,

Sum
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: 1212FBGS on December 13, 2007, 12:46:35 PM
Hey oz
Ya need to be very careful with your NOS solenoids. They don’t take to kindly to variable or pulsing voltage.... they heat up, stick and fail...they aren’t a sophisticated electrical devise...many promod racers have learned the hard way as to which solenoids work best with less than 12volts... I’m pretty sure that NOS in a problem but NX solenoids may work.... I would talk to Ryan or Dave Schnitz as to a recommendation
good luck
Kent
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: willieworld on December 13, 2007, 06:03:43 PM
i run NOS solenoids and i have tested mine to see how long they will stay on without burning up-- the gas solenoid will stay on for 12  min and just gets warm but the NOS solenoid will only last for 6 min. after that it gets very hot and smells like its burning up --(but it will still work perfect) both solenoids were new 12 years ago --also neither solenoid has anything going through them ---just for your info  willie buchta


i am getting ready to buy some new ones any suggestions  thanks
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: 1212FBGS on December 13, 2007, 09:40:19 PM
willie the problem is not how long they will stay on for before they will burn up...the problem is they dont respond to voltage lower than 12 volts so to controll them by limiting voltage is tough....earlie and most current progressive NOS controllers "pulse" the voltage to the solenoids...this "dwell" or "ramping" of the solenoid duty cycle often causes a solenoid to stick, eithor stuck open or stuck closed it will obviously cause a problem... often a big problem. progressive controllers can be very tricky especially if your trying a home made..... save yourself time, pistons, and money and just buy a proven design...better yet just install a multi stage set up..... you dont have to worry about blowing your tire away as most buttons are pushed at speed....oz one big thing to factor in when your comming half way round the world to race....make things simple for yourself....toss the idea of a complicated controller...really....
kent
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 14, 2007, 02:51:47 AM
Damm this Nitrous system is becoming a pain!
I hear what you are saying about the controller but it isnt what you would call home made,Adam who I mention earlier is an Electronics engineer of the highest caliber and designs satellite comunications controls and microwave links for a living (alot of the footage of Iraq Afghanistan the last solo ascent of Everest has been sent around the world on his or should I say the company we work for's design of equipment so I have great faith in him We also supply the U.S.and British Army with Equipment.)I only do the mechanical side of things here I am concerned with the solenoids though.Apparently Adam is doing it not with Voltage but by altering the duty cycle of the solenoids whatever that means I wanted to do it with high pressure mechanical ball valves but he assured me that he can do it this way.I am going to have a look at a multi stage setup now you have mentioned it and i will post a question in the EFI section on the solenoids issue.I really do have faith in his skills though and will see what he comes up with, I didnt mention earlier the system will be linked to lambda sensors in the exhaust so it can be monitored for anything unexpected also pressure sensors on the gas and nos in case of pressure drop which will cut the system hopefully "imediatley" if it goes pear shaped.I will keep you posted on any developments and or decisions in case I do something really silly.
Thanks Guys OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: joea on December 14, 2007, 10:00:00 AM
complicated controlling is the only way I found any success.......
(were still the worlds fastest nitrous bike for records that require
maintaining a speed for a mile)..........we pulsed the solenoids for
over 4 miles (due to the base engine so weak, needed to use nitrous
for nearly the entire run)


lamda is nearly worthless with large loads of nitrous........pressure sensors
nice but with very large loads of nitrous (high percentages of nitrous hp vs
base engine hp).......having a good grip on what composition is actually getting
into the combustion chamber was our biggest challenge.........

theoretically alot looks doable.........execution can be painful

with that said........good luck.......may the force be with you......

Joe :)

Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on December 14, 2007, 03:59:18 PM
You only need a "Murphy" switch on the gas.  If the N20 quits, the fire will go out right away anyway.  If you can find retracted gap plugs, those will be required for long term juice. 
Sounds like your buddy is planning on pulsing the solenoids, get the largest ones, they don't freeze as easy.  Joea will be a good source of reliable info.  Bring spares....
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: 1212FBGS on December 14, 2007, 08:56:12 PM
bring spairs....pistons, cylinders, and heads....or leave the NOS home...
kent

but i will comment...if you are gonna be a pussy and only run a 40 shot dont bother.... real men run 100 or better.... i put a 200 shot on my 600 once....once....to bad Suzuki didnt put better crank cases on there 600s
kent
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on December 14, 2007, 09:44:48 PM
.... real men run 100 or better.... i put a 200 shot on my 600 once....once....to bad Suzuki didnt put better crank cases on there 600s
kent

You musta been drinkin' that day... a lot!  :-o  or standing a little close to a lay-up job....  :roll: 

I think the rule of thumb is 1 lb per minute is 10 hp, it is pretty easy to use 10 lb in a run..
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 15, 2007, 03:27:03 AM
Hmmm Pussy here, I was only going to use maybe a 60 shot never mind! I have a letter from my mother to say I am a real Man and she said I am only allowed to play with Motorbikes and Nitrous when its not a school night HA!

What is a Murphy switch?  
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on December 15, 2007, 09:55:15 AM
What is a Murphy switch?   

A pressure switch wired to insure you have fuel pressure before the N20 is allowed to turn on.  Fuel is the part of the mix that needs to be there to keep the pistons in it.  If you lose fuel pressure, it will shut the power adder system down.  Murphy switches come in a variety of pressures, pick one close to your required dynamic fuel pressure.
When in doubt, Google ....
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 17, 2007, 02:21:11 AM
Nice one thanks Stainless.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on January 04, 2008, 04:03:49 AM
The last few little bits and pieces have now been fitted all that remains to be done is chain guard and spin up a new rear caliper mount as the one that is standard to the original bike aint no good so looks like everything is going according to plan.I reckon I have about 5 months to get the engine work/wiring/plumbing/paint and finishing done which will give me enough time to get the nescassary dollars together to get over in 09 Whoopee!
Just out of interest we thought we would weigh the finished article and it comes in at just over 450 lbs which aint too bad as the standard bike is around 520ish I know weight aint too much of a concern in LSR but a saving of around 70lbs means I can still eat lots of pies instead of using ballast.This also means if I can squeeze a little over 200 bhp out of the motor it will be the equivelant of 1000bhp per ton so it should be lively I think thats about the same power to weight ratio of a yamaha R1, 1hp per kg ish heres hoping!
Will post a few more pics of the finished bits you cant see as it gets stripped.
Cheers OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on January 04, 2008, 10:32:27 AM
add a provision for ballast?  Something readily available when you get to the US, like weight lifting weights...  :roll:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on January 12, 2008, 07:07:05 AM
OK heres a few more pics
Header tank for the rad fits in nice and tight in the frame

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bosses are welded on ready for the inlet and vent

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Opposite side switches for ignition nitrous and pumps etc

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Chain guard thanks lee W and Dave @BE Aerospace

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Side panels I have mounted the fuse box in one side for ease of access

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Underside of airbox the bolts hold a baffle plate at the moment but I may be changing it for a small intercooler I aint decided yet.

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Coils mounted infront of engine

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electrics mounted

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and fuel pumps

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Rear sets all s/s weird angle on the brake side to get around pipe

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looks sad without its bodywork on

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Engine is coming out on monday and then the frame can be finish welded and the real work starts on the motor cant wait it will be nice to finally assemble the finished thing. The tubes aint rusty but for some reason they look it in the photos.Oh and i have put in a steel plate under the tank to carry some ballast if needed thanks for the tip might have to make a Munro lead brick Cheers


TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: guttley782 on January 29, 2008, 03:46:19 PM
Hi Oz,
Got any updates now that the festive season is over?
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on January 30, 2008, 02:47:31 AM
Just coming up to the first pay day of the year I have a sneeking suspicion that it may take a leep forward in the next week or so!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on February 21, 2008, 02:56:39 AM
Nitrous Controler from Shnitz Racing is in Colorado, Ignition System being handled by MPS in Florida hopefully that should be making its way to Colorado within the next few days,Top end stripped, Reese Engineering in Leighton Buzzard re cutting Cam Pulleys,Roy Sherwood a top bloke is Gas Flowing Cylinder Head and re cutting valve seats E.T.C. and a bit of news from Dave Friend last night who is also on this site it looks like it could be using Suzi Pistons with any luck sourced from a good buddy of his in the good old U.Sof A seems to be a Trans Atlantic Build so far. So another leap forward and another pay day is approaching, they cant come quick enough at the moment as the bits return I will post some pictures of the finished articles If things continue at this rate final assembly should start around the end of May start of June, if everything goes according to plan (Then find somewhere for testing the Bedford Bypass early morning before the Police patrol cars warm up looks favourite at the moment!! )Anyone have any other suggestions?
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on April 22, 2008, 03:05:13 AM
I am really pleased the site is back again heres a few more pics of the bikes progress.I think I am a few months behind schedule as there has been some minor problems with finances and things but I will keep plodding along!!

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The Cylinder heads are finished at the end of this month and the pistons should be made and back from the states in another 5-8 weeks hopefully

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The frame is a black nylon metallic its very hard and very corrosion resistant it also looks real nice up close

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The wheels are orange obviously but it is a polyester coating still very hard wearing not the cheepest finishes but hey cant go this far and not do it properly!!

Cheers for now OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: V8Pinto on April 23, 2008, 10:22:43 PM
Nothing wrong with Orange!  I've got a Pinto and a Hayabusa that are both orange :)
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 03, 2008, 02:47:07 PM
Dammmmmmmmmmmm I was made redundant last week so I am now unemployed but its a minor setback but it gives me the money I needed to finish the bike only problem is I am going to have to start walking to Bonneville now to make it in time for next year but I WILL BE THERE AND WITH THE BIKE EVEN IF IT KILLS ME!!!!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 09, 2008, 01:26:39 PM
Back in work now I hate being sat on my arse! The last few bits have gone for coating Fuel Tank, Engine Plates and Hangars, I have had some interesting input from some unexpected sources I apologise if this is becoming boring but work and living have to come before the build to an extent. Unfortunatley the heads are taking twice as long as they were origianaly going to take but I am sure they will be very good (I hope)when they finally arrive back home.The Pistons are coming from JE who advertise here and so far have been Diamond Geezers very very helpfull thanks Tj they should be ready within the next monthish so when they arrive its balancing cryo and re assembly time then maybe you can have a look at somethin that dosent make you yawn quite so much thanks for bearing with me if only I could manage the accelerated build times of willie and the rest of you!
Cheers OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 16, 2008, 02:50:20 PM
OK I have seen the heads; the wait has been well worth it.  A beautiful job. It's always nice to see a man who knows his skills, and makes a nice cup of tea. I'm not so desparate now, it's on its final fettling and I'm sure within the next week or two it'll be done. It's been well worth it, so here's a couple of photos of the work so far. TJ, at JE Pistons has sent me a couple of emails with a few revisions and the pistons should be here within two or three weeks. Now I don't care if you're bored!!! I'll still be there in 09.


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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 16, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
Ooops Cheers Roy Sherwood just got ahead of myself forgot to say thanks lurvly
OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: generatorshovel on May 16, 2008, 07:28:10 PM
I can relate to your predicament Oz, my project is only a small single cylinder LSR four stroke, but it eats up ALL my spare cash,,,and it's seen 3 jobs come and go since its beginnings.
  After 3 months of forwards backwards land, I'm finally seeing it all come together, and get a new spurt of enthusiasm as another stage of construction is completed.
Learning the art of patience sure take a long time,  :wink:
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Tiny
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on May 16, 2008, 08:24:28 PM
Way to go Oz,Sorry to hear about your job probs,but glad to hear you got sorted.
Great piccies,good it is all coming together.
When you all coming down for a brew?

 Dave
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 17, 2008, 04:34:04 AM
Hi Dave long time no see I will try and get up to see you guys within the next month or so its been a bit hectic and stressfull as you may be able to tell but hopefully everything is back on track now.

That does not look like a small single what capacity is it 600-700cc J.A.P or Weslake or something else?? Its kinda hard to tell from the photo.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on May 28, 2008, 05:10:42 PM
Hi Oz, your bike is looking good. I'm a Honda nut living up in Cheshire.
Tiny PMed this link to more pics of his build.
It's only 175cc and is based on a CB125 motor.

http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t24/generatorshovel/

Sam. :wink:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 29, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
Nice one its a very impressive piece of work that is!! It always amazes me what talent is hidden away in this country.I caught one of your earlier posts to Willie Buchta he really is a very helpfull bloke he helped me out loads last year with tech info on setting up the N2O its alot more complex than i realized and am still waiting for parts to finish the system and engine but its getting there
Cheers OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on May 29, 2008, 02:33:01 PM
Nice one its a very impressive piece of work that is!! It always amazes me what talent is hidden away in this country.I caught one of your earlier posts to Willie Buchta he really is a very helpfull bloke he helped me out loads last year with tech info on setting up the N2O its alot more complex than i realized and am still waiting for parts to finish the system and engine but its getting there
Cheers OZ

Hi Oz, that little Honda motor belongs to Tiny in Australia, not the UK. He posted the link to me in a PM.

Re Willie, yes, he sounds an OK guy, had a chat with him off forum.
I'm just in the process of going down the nitrous route myself, having problems figureing out a way of retarding the ingnition without going to a completley different ignition system.

Regards Sam. :wink:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 29, 2008, 03:07:26 PM
Yup I know what you mean I eventually got a Dyna2000 Ignition system made up for me in Canada through MPS Racing in Florida but it is also programable,they may be able to help I was originally going to use dual pick ups and have a wasted spark when retard was used as in switching on the second or retarded spark with the nitrous system if you know whaI mean you will have to have a good coil on there though.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on August 02, 2008, 03:14:36 PM
Well its been a long time since I posted and I now find myself in Vancouver with the bike back in England the Pistons eventually turned up the daybefore I flew over but at least I have them now.
I thought I would wish everyone good luck and be safe on the Salt and at the same time post a few more pictures of the project!


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Does anyone have any good contacts in the Vancouver area for engine work as in balancing the crank for the pistons ETC.
Whilst I was waiting for the pistons I started another project for a friend Jen she is only small and needed a frame for a Ducati SS but it had to be real small...............................................................It came out real pretty but as you can see it is damm small!!

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I wil post a few more of it when I can get them from England it is a Rolling Chassis now with all the Electrics mounted all that remains to be done is a Tank-Seat Unit.
Be Fast Be Safe TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on August 03, 2008, 03:15:23 PM
Hi Oz.
That is either an extremly small bike or a very large can of cider :-D

 David
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: guttley782 on August 05, 2008, 04:16:31 AM
Hi Oz,
Glad you got a job in Vancouver. Check out Jason McVicar. He lives in Vancouver and is a legend. He will help you out enormously, and I'll send you his email and another good guy. They will be able to sort you out. They both even like Englishmen!!! Gabriel.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on August 05, 2008, 10:12:08 PM
Excellent I dont know if this is going to be a permenant move yet but thanks its much appreciated, Cheers Gabriel. oh and its a normal sized can Dave but it looks nice together Not me and coney the bike!!!

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: racin jason on August 06, 2008, 01:47:17 AM
I'm up to my eyeballs in aligators right now but i could point you in the right direction.

Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on August 06, 2008, 09:06:20 AM
That looks real cool :-D.
How you enjoying it over there?

 David
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on September 21, 2008, 09:58:17 AM
Ah well, back in Blighty again, didn't seem to work out in Vancouver, not sure if this is a good or a bad thing yet. But it does mean that the bike's coming on again. We have pistons, we have a balanced and cryo'd crank thanks to T&L Engineering, and Frozen Solid http://www.frozensolid.co.uk/. There's a few pictures here of my buddy Sean once of Eurowing, Italy - top mechanic - who also worked in Texas on Nascars and other performance cars. I have ultimate faith in his skills, as he keeps telling me I don't know what I'm doing, so I cleaned his spanners for him and took the old gaskets off.

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lots of complicated stuff now and i find myself having to ask for assistance at every step of the way but the mates that you find through time always seem to be there to help Much appreciated thanks all and cheers to Alistair Borland @ B.E.Aerospace for support and Encouragement

Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on October 03, 2008, 02:46:34 PM
Good day?Bad Day?Final assembly was going great today modified clutch casings actually fitted with no problems the coatings done by Chris Negus at B.E.look teriffic thanks Carl/Chris/Pete/Trev only thing is it makes the other casings look shabby so it looks like some more bits may be heading your way see ya monday.
Then there were the yolks(triple trees) I was sure i had measured everything at least ten times,I made drawings had C.N.C.Programes written Cheers Gary and when I came to assemble them found that I had measured wrong on the size of the tubes
It could have been worse at least the pitch of the tubes was spot on and I only had to re bore the Dia only problem was I over bored by .25mm  which meant i had to enlarge the clamping slits
They seem to fit well now but it aint half awkward trying to assemble a front end that aint quite right by yourself,lift the bike,and do the clamping bolts with only two hands.
I can fit the lock stops bar location bolts and various other s@*%# and try and re assemble again tomorow.
Then its rear brake asembly I have made a carrier but its so close to other stuff it isnt funny if it fits I will post a few pictures  if it dosent i will wait till it does.
I Think there will be one more flurry of photos and then it is all going to be wiring piping and final setup before Dyno time its a very exciting and worrying time for me,Has it been worth it?
Myself I think so,even without any results from the Dyno I have learnt so much from this build in the way of what goes into making a bike goes fast,before this it has always been purely asthetics and bull@#<? Will it be any good ?
I dont know I really hope it will be otherwise I have spent alot of time and money on what could end up to be one helluva fast road bike that aint much good around town or even for distance.
Final Photos to follow.
TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on October 05, 2008, 07:47:29 AM
Final Photo I aint going to post much more on the build as it is in the final throes of assembly and I reckon you must be getting bored with it now.
Thanks for your help everyone especially Beck Coatswith.Tom and Joan Coatswith Mam and Dad.Tommy Fox.Annie Colvin and Doug Amy the U.S.A Logistics team thanks for the cahoneys Doug and for the Family Support side of things .Chris Lay Gigasat.Alastair Borland B.E.Aerospace.Lee Worvell.Grant Wilson.Alan Hunt.Shaun Leconte.Gabriel.TJ Harris at J.E.Pistons.All at Nitrous Supply.Dave at Shnitz Racing.Mps in Florida.Omnicote.T+l Engineering.Roy Shearwood.Simon Reese at Reese Engineering.Greg at Frozen Solid.Dave Flood.Pete Burch.Chris and Trev Negus.Peter Heath.Carl Worker.Dave Irwin.Jason Tyas.(Adam.Kawah.Andy at Gigasat.)Bucks Chopper Club Chris Ireland for more than I can ever thank him for and Many other people if I have forgoten to put your names here Sorry but your help has been much appreciated.


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See Ya on the salt 09

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: guttley782 on October 05, 2008, 12:21:25 PM
Don't stop posting now! We are definitely NOT bored with your build..Keep things coming, and tell us how it runs etc. Will you get a chance to test this winter anywhere? Santa Pod is 2 weeks away for the 50th anniversay NSA sprint....
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on October 06, 2008, 01:30:12 PM
Cheers Gabriel Hows your Project coming along its a while since i had any pics of you.PM Sent
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 05, 2008, 04:03:17 PM
I wasnt going to post again until all the pipework and wiring was done but it has taken so long just to do the pipework I feel that it is time for an update as I keep getting asked of freinds as to when they can see some progress so here is the progress!!

Electrics all mounted and ready for the wiring

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Murphy Switch Which i wouldnt of thought of thank you guys


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OOH!! Sexy Naked


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Oil Cooler went in a treat although the brackets were a pain


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And a riders eye view...... Hopefully more interesting in future


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Cheers Guys OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: guttley782 on December 06, 2008, 07:16:58 AM
Great stuff Oz!!! Thanks for updating us.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on December 08, 2008, 11:10:18 PM
Looking good Oz  8-) are you running it naked or is there a front bit going on ?

Hi Gabriel.

Sam. :wink:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 09, 2008, 07:37:56 AM
Hi Sam it will be Running naked in 09 and depending on how it Handles/Performs on the Salt it may go to partial streamlining in 2010 or it may just be a motor swap i aint really decided yet, the good thing is the Engine bay is so big most modern engines will fit easily with room to spare,I will have to see what happens and how it goes.
Gabriel had a Super Blackbird for sale earlier this year,One of those little beautys may just be the ticket.
Honda's aint everyones cup of tea but I like em!
 TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: 55chevr on December 09, 2008, 04:25:19 PM
We are all engine guys and like to see the engines ... run it naked and then decide what you want to do ...
Joe
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on December 09, 2008, 08:55:34 PM
Hi Sam it will be Running naked in 09 and depending on how it Handles/Performs on the Salt it may go to partial streamlining in 2010 or it may just be a motor swap i aint really decided yet, the good thing is the Engine bay is so big most modern engines will fit easily with room to spare,I will have to see what happens and how it goes.
Gabriel had a Super Blackbird for sale earlier this year,One of those little beautys may just be the ticket.
Honda's aint everyones cup of tea but I like em!
 TTFN OZ


I'm a tea man as well :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D had Hondas since the begining, think my first one was 62 (a monkey bike) wish I still had it. :roll: Bought a 150 Benly in 65, rode it on the road for a few months then started sprinting it with the NSA, it took the British 175 flying mile record in 71, still have it. Hope to take it to Maxton next year with my RS175 two stroke.

Sam. :wink:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on December 10, 2008, 11:59:29 AM
Hey Sam I was just flitting through some of your earlier posts and noticed you may be considering nitrousing your RS I may have a Buddy who could give you a few tips on the subject..
He is over in the states at the moment but will be back around Christmas time I remember him saying he had done a 50cc and an 80cc 2 stroke on gas succesfully so he may be a help if you havent got it sorted yet.
And your a NSA Member to boot i suppose that means you know a certain Mr Simon Reese he has been a great help to me during this build if nothing else just through his sheer enthusiasm for all that is bikes and going fast same goes for Gabriel it was really them two that got me into it after the initial idea.
TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on December 10, 2008, 05:09:06 PM
Hi Oz, Yes I know Simon, we did a few seasons racing the southern strips with our CR750 Honda in the Jap Classic Unlimited class, got to know him quite well, give him my regards next time you see him.
I only met Gabriel once when he lived down south, met him at Weston Zoyland.
I got the gas fitted but it didn't work under load. Straightliners were going to run a records weekend but it didn't happen so I shelved the project until next year and went drag racing in the States instead.
I'll be getting it sorted after Christmas and have a date set for the record attempt on 26th April at Woodbridge. I'll only get one crack at it so here's hoping the weather is kind.

Regards Sam.  :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on January 24, 2009, 09:55:19 AM
Just an update its going for wiring mid february by an old friend so there is a little video of the bike as is stands gives a slightly better idea of what its like.It aint brilliant and i dont think there is sound but hey ya cant have everythin.

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: SPARKY on January 24, 2009, 10:52:53 AM
Getting there!!! Looking forwad to the POST of its first ride and its first RUN----Great Sucsess to you this season!!!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Peter Jack on January 24, 2009, 12:04:49 PM
Hey Oz! Just so you know, the sound comes through just fine. The project's looking really good. Why don't you pull back a bit and give us an overall look.

Good luck with running it. If it's as good as it looks it should be fast.

Pete
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on January 24, 2009, 02:23:40 PM
Thanks Guys, really looking forward to getting out there this year the "Team"is getting together on the 7th of next month to put the deposits down on the RVs and finalize who is going where and when,It looks like there could be a dozen of us going so it should be a fun trip.
I did the video on a little digital stills camera for the blokes at work who wanted to see it, They said I should post it so I did, when it is up and running I will try for a better one maybe even some dyno footage.
Thanks again fellas.
Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on February 07, 2009, 09:55:34 AM
The Bike Aint wired yet but it should be soon, just thiught I would post a little object that i knocked up at work this week  a little video cam mount I thought it may be fun to video a run or two if its allowed.
It is 1 Inch bore so it will clamp to one of the frame rails.

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The slide Mount bolts on and the camera is easily removed.


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And the camera is tiny its only about 4 1/2 inches long and about 1 1/2 inches in dia with its own power supply and 4 gig of memory should make for  interesting viewing.


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It turned out that nice it even got anodised.


Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 07, 2009, 12:25:50 PM
I just got a new program for my iMac -- that might be great for the onboard camera folks (which I am -- have a pair of little cameras and recorders).

The new program is the latest iteration of iPhoto/iMovie.  The iMovie includes some software that's supposed to help steady the video from a camera that's shaken while recording.  I read that the software is intended to help smooth video shot with hand-held phonoe cameras -- but I expect itll work with other video, too.  I have not installed it in the computer yet so haven't tried -- but will today and will see if I can find some video to work with.

The iPhoto part of the program includes software to use the GPS signal that's now available in some digital cameras -- to log the location where a photo was shot and store the  information in the data package of the photo.  When you're playing with the photo(s) afterwards the software will help you make a travelogue, for instance, in correct order -- it'll sort the photos by location.  I hear it'll even let you print a map showing your course referencing where the photos were taken.

I'll get the program installed today - once I finish catching up on all the posts here.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on February 11, 2009, 02:54:03 PM
Have you managed to have a play with the new program yet is it any good and will it work on a normal laptop pc,Ireckon anything from my camera setup is going to be well shaky at best maybe just a blur of vibration tine will tell.

I
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 11, 2009, 09:10:38 PM
No, I haven't found time to try it yet.  And the program is for Apples and purchased from them -- so it won't work on a Windows machine.  There might be something similar in the world of Windows -- but I don't know about that.

I hope to find time in a day or two to run a video or two through the new program.  I've got a nice stock of shaky ones, that's for sure  If I can do it -- and if it works like I hope it works - I'll post a "before-and-after" set of videos.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on March 03, 2009, 01:53:05 PM
Yahoo!!! Its wired! Its going to be really really hard to not take time of work just to go and Fuel and oil her up,but i will be patient and wait till the weekend or Friday afternoon or tommorow who knows I cant wait to hear it running.......for the first time in 4 years.
Big Thank you to Steve Cleaver.Cheers Mate

Very Excited but wont take it out on the road Oz
well maybe once!
P.S.
I will take a few piccys at the weekend maybe a vid of the first firing!
Any news on the vid programe yet slim
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on March 03, 2009, 02:01:12 PM

Very Excited but wont take it out on the road Oz
well maybe once!


Be Careful, I hear the roads over there are narrow and in bad shape...  :|
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on March 03, 2009, 02:14:27 PM
you know it and wet at the moment  :-P
I may have to wait a little while but that is going to be very very hard :evil:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on March 14, 2009, 05:51:45 AM
It runs like a dream nice and resposive heres a little clip with lurvly lurvly sound dubious camera technique though. We had a load of little niggles at first and it took about 4 hours to sort em out but it was worth it.
Its booked in at the Dyno in two weeks and then it will give a better idea about fine tuning.

http://i287.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid287.photobucket.com/albums/ll140/oz110364/movie.flv
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Rchop on March 14, 2009, 09:27:01 AM
Sounds great OZ, lot's of smiles in that video :-D
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on March 14, 2009, 01:18:42 PM
Sounds great OZ, lot's of smiles in that video :-D

Yep, everybody looked pretty happy... I saw the N20 bottle on the floor, did you have it cracked open a little earlier  :roll:  :-D  :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: theazoldcrow on March 14, 2009, 04:09:56 PM
 :-o  I was hopin they weren't using that blue bottle as a fire extinguisher!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: :wink: :wink:  Crow
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on March 14, 2009, 04:36:28 PM
Nope but we did have a few about as we did have a small problem with one of the fuel pumps!
Nitrous isnt a laughing matter..........or is it tee hee!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on March 14, 2009, 06:59:55 PM
Glad to see it is a runner!,loved the vid!.
Sent you a PM.

 David.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on March 16, 2009, 08:42:22 PM
Bet you had a few beers to celebrate :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Sounds real crisp Oz. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Mine will be on the dyno this Saturday in Doncaster, not sure who's dyno it is. It fired up OK last Saturday.

Sam. :-)
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on April 03, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
Its the first time I have used a Dyno to set up a bike and to tell you the truth I was very nervous,Will it be ok, will it blow up will the bloke who runs it know what he is doing?
Well he did know what he was doing!But and that is a big but the first run was very disapointing, all the work that I had put into the Engine had in effect halfed the output from 135 BHP to 66BHP,I was absolutley GUTTED!
The jets I was recomended to run from literature were around 124s and it was off the scale on the lean side, Not good but with a bit of Needle adjustment and a set of 150 Mains in it has crept upto 113 BHP.
It is still off the scale on the lean side,I initially thought this was not good but if it is still craving fuel the more fuel and air you can get in there the better so we had to leave it for today but tommorow we will gho upto 170 mains and have a play with the timing,
I would really like to see around the 160HPs,
Will let you know and then its a run with the Nitrous......Gulp

TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on April 05, 2009, 11:03:32 AM
Nope still poor results, apparently from 7 grand upwards it is real quick,faster than an R1 on the Dyno so I am told.I aint sure if that was said to sweeten the blow of such poor performance down low but we shall see,
apparently there is a problem with the map on the Ignition module and it appears that there is a hole in it so we need to buy an interface lead an some software from Dynatek to tweak the curve around as it aint doing a good job beetween 5 and 7,Below that fine above that Fine just that one little spot that it wont work.
Ho Hum the clock seems to be ticking a bit quicker as each week passes now.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on April 10, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
115 Hp
& 71 ft lbs Torque at the back wheel.Ah well it aint all about power.
I will have to see how it cuts the air .....Road test tommorow if its dry and there aint no bears about!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on April 21, 2009, 03:01:57 PM
Still no road test as yet but the weather is improving maybe this weekend.

The Nitrous bottle is filled and I am ready to do a run with it on the dyno what is the best way of doing it?

Top Gear with enough loading so it wont red line in top and then hit the button,I dont know this bit is all new to me anyone got any suggestions or experience even ideas!
Cheers Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: willieworld on April 21, 2009, 03:23:44 PM
oz  i ride my own bike on the dyno---i warm up the engine--and trans--run it through the gears --shift to 4th at 4000 rpm --hit the nos --run it to redline (7000 rpm) the dyno operator starts recording when i shift to 4th --nothing to it   willie buchta
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: John Noonan on April 21, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
Still no road test as yet but the weather is improving maybe this weekend.

The Nitrous bottle is filled and I am ready to do a run with it on the dyno what is the best way of doing it?

Top Gear with enough loading so it wont red line in top and then hit the button,I dont know this bit is all new to me anyone got any suggestions or experience even ideas!
Cheers Oz

OZ,

The proper way to use the Nitrous is to use it well in to your RPM range, if you were to hit the Nitrous at a low RPM you can damage your engine, make sure to always use the Nitrous only at wide open throttle and to always let off the Nitrous before you let off the gas or damage can occur.  On your engine I would not use the Nitrous at an RPM of less that 6K.

If you tap the Nitrous when the engine is shut off make sure you allow the intake to vent or you will have a nice little backfire and again more damage.




"Nitrous is nice however I'd rather be Blown"    :-D


John
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on April 21, 2009, 03:48:36 PM
Cheers Willie
Are you running a straight shot? I am Running a progressive setup or should I just run a straight shot for Dyno purposes.Do you think loading the roller is a good idea we usually have it around 25 to 30% loading to stop it running away with itself

I hear ya John I reckoned around 6 to 6.5k only problem I have is it accelerates that quickinto the red line @11k in anything but top gear it dosent really give an Idea of what the progressive side of things is doing.Straight shot do you reckon, just to see what kind of power it makes and check ratios etc.
Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: John Noonan on April 21, 2009, 04:01:41 PM
Willie runs it straight without a controller, if you can load the dyno you will be able to check how well the controller works..

Good luck either way and I hope TJ sold you an extra piston or two and I really hope you don't need them.

John
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 04, 2009, 05:34:16 AM
Unfortunatley testing has come to a halt at the moment as due to the recesion over here I find myself redundant again "Twice in a year almost to the day aint funny" I will still get there though Beg/Steal or Borrow it has to happen!

Anyone got some work for a SMW/Plater/Welder/Turner/Fitter/Designer.

TTFN Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 06, 2009, 02:07:21 PM
Testing resumed,No work as yet but still looking.
It goes like f#@$ we havent managed a flat out run in top yet as it is a bit dodgy where we are testing I wont go into details as I might incriminate myself.
It is pulling 135 in 5th at around 8 1/2 grand red line is at 10 1/2 but seems a bit under geared,Very stable even on the corners although I think I had better get the wheels balanced as the front does seem to oscilate a bit. Changing the rear sprocket tomorow and see if we can get a flat out run in 6th,traffic and bears permitting oh and the weather is always a bit iffy over here.

Wahoo its like being a naughty kid again or should I say its like stepping back in time ten years!

TTFN Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Adz on May 06, 2009, 02:39:45 PM
Small world, good to bump into ya today after many many years. Bike looks good and sounds well.
If i hear it again i'll pop round wif beer next time, good luck

Adz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 06, 2009, 03:31:06 PM
Okay, Adz -- now I see you're in Britain.  All I've got to do is read all of the posts and I'll have you nailed, right?
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 06, 2009, 03:48:46 PM
Cheers Adz it must have been 7 or 8 years maybe even 9, Did you get in touch with PJ as he seemed to know exactly what we were upto today. Then I got a bell from Dave Friend in Dorset,Jeez news travels fast it must be because we live on a small island.
we will be doing a bit tommorow if you are about.
TTFN Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Adz on May 06, 2009, 03:51:15 PM
Spoke to pj earlier............small world init

Adz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: beerbellykelly on May 06, 2009, 07:05:59 PM
initial reports of a' low flying geordie' were today subtantiated by local observers,the high revving noises were accompanied by a maniacal giggling -

local authority,s have advised that boxing the miscrient up and sending him to utah for correctional treatment would only result in more smiles and happyness-not what authority is about-

seriously tho-well done OZ and well spotted ADZ!!

see you all on the salt!!!

p.j.

 
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 11, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
Back in work Great, looks like Dyno time is back on the cards which is a relief I didnt really want to test the nitrous on the road.
Its dodgy enough as is.

Just like the song "you cant always get what you want but if you try sometimes you might get just what you need"
Bonneville here we come.

ThunderBurks are Go!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on May 13, 2009, 01:17:41 AM
Things are looking up Oz, glad you found some work.
Good luck on the salt. :wink:

Sam. :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: octane on May 13, 2009, 10:30:54 AM
Oz, my man;
check your PM.

Thanks
Lars


Your bike looks absolutely brilliant.
Congratulations !
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 13, 2009, 04:02:08 PM
Thanks Sam I was panicking.

Lars I have sent appropriate Documents to your Email address that is on the site if that aint the correct one give me another PM or I have given you my personal E mail and No feel free to call if you have any problems.

Cheers OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Adz on May 27, 2009, 08:35:27 PM
Back from me holls,,,,,any news?
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on May 28, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Everything going according to plan,Registration fee done new job ok and going over to Welwyn Garden City for the weekend if you are up for it, Predator Motorcycles are having a do for the SSAFA Soldiers Sailors Airmen Family AssociationI said I would take the bike along to put on display to build up the numbers I would expect PJ and the crew will be there
You Have to support your troops especially when your son is one of those numbers.
Its at Mundells Lagoon Park South Welwyn Garden City if anyone is up for it

Cheers Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: octane on May 28, 2009, 04:10:06 PM
Thanks Sam I was panicking.

Lars I have sent appropriate Documents to your Email address that is on the site if that aint the correct one give me another PM or I have given you my personal E mail and No feel free to call if you have any problems.

Cheers OZ

Got it OZ. Thanks a lot for your help !
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on June 17, 2009, 02:38:50 PM
Well Everything is done and dusted now,all that is left to do is drain all the fluids Oil/water/Fuel and empty the No2 Bottle.
Give it a new second hand rear tyre,The Dyno and road tests ate the original.
Give it a bit of a polish up put the number plates/panels on and Bobs your fathers brother.Shipping should be in the next 3 weeks and then the fun begins.
Cant wait its the best thing ive done in years, Thanks to all for advice and help over the past couple of years and see you on the salt
big thanks to Chris Lay M.D. at GIGASAT for sponsoring the shipping and the use of the facilitys it probably would have taken another year without him.

Cheers All.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 17, 2009, 08:27:46 PM
So, Oz -- what event will you be visiting?  If you've mentioned it -- well, forgive me for not remembering.  I scanned quickly through the posts on the page of your thread and didn't see when you're planning on being at Bonneville, but whenever -- i sure would like to be certain to get some photos and chat with you.

Best -
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on June 18, 2009, 01:52:02 PM
Its SPEEDWEEK Wahoo!! cant wait to meet you all in person,Hope it starts drying out over there soon!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Adz on June 19, 2009, 09:00:34 AM
I trust ther will be a customary drinking session before the off   :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: beerbellykelly on June 26, 2009, 07:24:10 PM
englishmen drinking in a hot land?surely not-we,ll be far too busy doing our jobs and meeting up with folk from here-mind you,if my r.v. turns up full of beer im sure we can find some help -

hopping like a kid for this one,we got the indian international rally in scotland just before-what a month it will be-
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 10, 2009, 12:15:36 PM
Just had some very bad news we will definatley be at Bonneville but the bike,well unless I can put some serious money together seriously quickly we have a problem of the enormous kind.

It aint over till the fat lady sings.

Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: John Noonan on July 10, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
Put your hand over her mouth... :wink:


Good luck with the funding..  :cheers:

John
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 10, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
Fat Lady well and truly muzzled at 16%APR for two and a half years Damm i hate owing money to banks!!!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: lbs on July 16, 2009, 06:27:29 AM
That is one hell of a story my friend, can't wait for the ending on the salt.
What happend to the sponsor?
Set up a paypal account I'll chip in for you mate :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 16, 2009, 11:49:39 AM
Nice one thanks! I have it covered now the offer is much appreciated though and welcome to the site, carefull though its quite addictive!
The Sponsors unfortunatley have gone bust which is a real shame as they have been a great help all the way through the build and i have friends that worked there the owner himself is a good friend of mine.
Global recession sucks a big one!!

Cheers Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on July 16, 2009, 07:06:02 PM
Good luck Oz, when do you fly out ?

Sam. :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 18, 2009, 04:19:29 AM
The bike started its journey yesterday and should be in denver around the end of next week depending on how quick it clears customs i have to wait until the 8th unfortunatley but family matters have to come first.
Cheers Sam I could use all the luck I can get!

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TTFN Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 24, 2009, 03:42:23 PM
Just an update really,There has been a few problems in the shipping Dept and the shipping has been delayed due to red tape and a load of running to and fro getting documents drawn up signed etc but it should fly out this weekend at some point arriving Denver via Dallas ready for another road trip to the salt.

The main reason for this post is to say Thank You to Justin Blaskowski at IJS Global for his patience and help with the shipping documents etc.

And a Very Very Big Thank You to several people who have behind the scenes have put together a good deal of money to help out on this trip after the bad news about the sponsors misfortune.

I dont have your details as yet Chris has only just managed to get in touch and tell me but you know who you are and as soon as I do I will be in touch to say thanks in person and I will send something in the post when i get back from Bonneville.

I will do my best for you all and hopefully I will get to say thanks face to face one day it couldnt have come at a better time as without your help it would have been a very tight if not almost totaly impossible trip.

Much respect Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: guttley782 on July 26, 2009, 01:38:15 PM
Good luck Oz. Have a great time over there. I will follow your progress on this site, so thanks as well Slim!
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on July 27, 2009, 03:22:01 PM
Way to go Oz,keep the flag flying.
Will keep track on here.

David.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 27, 2009, 03:30:17 PM
Cheers Fellas, I will do my best oh and if anyone else is flying a bike out there have you had any problems with carb floats bursting with the altitude? Bought another set to take as hand baggage just in case.

TTFN OZ
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on July 28, 2009, 01:43:53 PM
Hi Oz.
When we took the Kwak out in 07,we had no problem with the floats at all.
Have fun,keep it upright and don't throw a leg out of bed :-D

 David
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on July 28, 2009, 07:09:35 PM
Keep your eye open for another Brit Oz, my mate Murray Griffin.

http://www.torqueevents.com/lsr/

http://www.essex.ac.uk/bs/staff/griffin/index.shtm

Good luck again Oz.

Sam. :wink: :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Stainless1 on July 29, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
Oz. are you coming to Denver to get the bike?  do I need to make you a space on my bike trailer?
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 29, 2009, 10:57:41 AM
Four of us Dave PJ Annie and Doug will be,They are outside Denver at Longmont which is where Annie and Doug live I believe its on the way to the Main highway I.80 or whatever it is (the one to Bonneville)  they will be arriving on wednesday evening but the Bike should be there this saturday,
we have hired a trailer from U Haul as we will need to use it as a recovery after runs its not Ideal but it will have to do.
Dave PJ Annie and Doug are picking the 2 RVs up in Denver on Thursday morning and driving on over to Wendover we are also taking a pick up truck to use with the trailer its gona be a right convoy going on,hope they remember to pick us up at SSC on saturday
Might be an Idea though,when will you be leaving for the salt and will it cause you any hassle.
Cheers Oz

OOPs I forgot to mention the U haul thing may be the best option as it dosent look that long but I think the wheel base is something like 82" which makes the whole thing very long something in the region of 8 ft long we were originaly going to get a bike trailer from them but it wouldnt fit.
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: fredvance on July 29, 2009, 11:28:27 AM
Oz, hope you are getting either the 5x9 open ramp trailer or the 5x8 enclosed trailer. I am a u haul dealer and these are your best choices. If you dont need an enclosed trailer the 5x9 ramp trailer is best for a motorcycle, ramp, tie downs.

    Fred
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 29, 2009, 11:49:06 AM
God knows its 5X9 and the sides are about 26"high apparently, Annie has sorted this one out I hope it has a ramp it will be darned awkward if it hasnt.does that sound like the right one?
Cheers Fred
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: mj43 on July 29, 2009, 11:50:44 AM
All the best Oz keep us all informed of your progress

MJ
Team Sparrow #9696
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: fredvance on July 29, 2009, 12:06:20 PM
Thats the right one, and yes it has a ramp. The newer ones even have an indention for the front wheel of a motorcycle.

  Fred
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: racecomp on July 29, 2009, 05:20:53 PM
Good luck OZ.  :cheers:  :-D
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on July 30, 2009, 11:26:04 AM
Cheers Mark will do I have daves no i will give him a bell when i am over and let him know how its going.

Big Thanks Steve/Racecomp you dont know how much that bit of sponsorship will help.
Nice one!!


P.S Mark,remember the little old lady that trashed my bike the insurance company have actually just finished paying up,,Not bad only 5 months
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on August 05, 2009, 08:37:32 AM
Another Thank you to Steve@ Racecomp,Chris/Greg/Scott Giga co.

And The Good folk at the Wheatsheaf Public House Leighton Buzzard.(a very good watering hole,live music every friday and saturday,come one come all) trying for a free beer there!!
Jurgen and Helen,Richard and Tracy,Andy,John,Royston and Pat(actually suprised they didnt jump on there Guzzi and drive from new york or somwhere to watch),Geff and Liz,and everyone else for there support.

Many thanks I will buy the beers when I get back.

See ya all soon Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: lvsalt on August 05, 2009, 09:13:39 AM
 Is the wheatsheaf near Nantwitch   :?


 Gary Cole     DCWATERJET Z
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on August 05, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
By U.S. Standards just a little way about 150miles By U.K. Standards a pain about 2-4 hours, Pop in I will get you a Beer  :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on August 10, 2009, 08:36:52 PM
Any news OZ ?

Sam. :wink:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on August 16, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
Best pass was 149 normally aspirated(on the sat nav just in case ) but we had problems with the nitrous and we couldn get any on the salt. Still that is only 18mph of the record so the way i see it we did well 3 of us got licensed and had a good time without breaking the bike or any bones.you lose 20 percent power at that altitude so the plan is to take 50 percent more than we need next time and have some spare if we can. Ttfn and thanks to all on the salt. staff Volunteers. Competitors.everyone.just the best time ever.      Oz
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on August 26, 2009, 02:59:46 PM
Damm back at work now everything is grey it all seems unreal now,new projects are running around in my brain but all I want to do is jump back on a plane and run at BUB

Is That salt fever when you get back home and all you want to do is go faster next time.

The End until next time
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: rockstar on August 26, 2009, 03:14:30 PM
Yep you got da fever :-D and der aint no cure known to man or racer!!!!.

Glad everything went well for you,you will have to come down for a beer and tell us all about it and
bring the piccies.

David
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: Sam Green on August 28, 2009, 12:01:48 AM
Well done Oz, glad you enjoyed it. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Sam. :wink: :cheers:
Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on November 16, 2009, 12:05:07 PM
Ah well things seem to be at a standstill at the moment on the Jawa so its time to look at the Honda again.
I think i made a couple of rudimentary mistakes the first being the inlet tract, my problem was it was built from what I had at the time and without an original airbox to inspect, seems there are inlet stubs that protrude into the original airbox which have a slight bellmouth on them which of course channels the air to the carb which also has another smaller bellmouth, more velocity through the carb more suck more fuel?
The airbox will have to be machined out to accept the new rubbers but hopefully it should help it to breath a bit better, then back to the Dyno see if there is any appreciable difference and start on the head mods.
Cheers for now Oz

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Title: Re: My CBR1000 A/F
Post by: oz on January 17, 2010, 09:50:21 AM
Airbox has now been machined to accept the inlet rubbers but i am not very happy with the results so I think I am going to use an older bank of carbs which I have just re furbed,


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apparently the older models made slightly more power and the only difference beetween the engines is the carbs,
But it does mean re machining a new carb plate and re making the airbox ah well give me somethin to do spring is on the way.

oh this is what happened when I tried the Nitrous at Speedweek the gauge decided to explode and dump all the go go gas into the atmosphere nice! It did cool my erm lap down quite a bit

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Cheers Oz

Sorry about the quality of pictures still looking for my camera