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Title: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 20, 2020, 12:02:35 PM
Here's proof that Sid's car exists.  I posted the pics -- I'll let him respond to your questions.

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Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Peter Jack on June 20, 2020, 12:09:25 PM
Nice work Sid and LOTS of it! I can't wait to see it run.  :cheers: :cheers: :clap :clap

Pete
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 20, 2020, 01:59:05 PM
 Pretty darn nice. Carry on.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: ronnieroadster on June 20, 2020, 02:10:12 PM
I like the color the workman ship is outstanding exactly what I expected. Sid has always been very helpful to guide many of us along our journey to getting faster as we get older. Sid you can count me in as part of your crew mate.
 Ronnieroadster
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: SPARKY on June 20, 2020, 10:21:12 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 20, 2020, 11:05:39 PM
Thanks for putting the pics up Jon. There had been some grumblings from our regulars the other day so I figured a bit of an effort was called for but I couldn't post them since I'm about as smart as a bag of spuds. cromag
These pics are all the front half & include the reverse rotation transfer case with the direct / overdrive unit to the front diff that is up side down facing backwards.
Today with some help, the nose & tail exited the shed so I can work towards getting some pics of the noisy end.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: salt27 on June 20, 2020, 11:16:35 PM
Thanks Sid, Looking good.   :cheers:
Signed, Grumbling regular.    :-D
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on June 20, 2020, 11:58:55 PM
... I couldn't post them since I'm about as smart as a bag of spuds. cromag...
  Sid.

How typical of the world we live in, that a guy can build something like this, but lack the computer skills that an average big city 8-year-old kid possesses, who would stare at these pictures with ZERO comprehension of what it is.

Love it, Sid!  :cheers: :cheers:

Mike
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: racergeo on June 21, 2020, 12:24:32 AM
  I'm glad Sid's driving. With claustrophobia and being vision impaired it might be a drama. :-P
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 21, 2020, 08:41:06 AM
We can ask questions?  :friday Sid..what is the starboard side blower/fan  for? Looks like it is ducted aft of the driver.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Stainless1 on June 21, 2020, 10:38:41 AM
Nice work there Sid.... love the way the drivers area is decorated... I figured out how you get in and out... I think... looks like a squeeze.  Cool car... built like it could go fast... very fast...
Love to see the body... love to see it run... now that it's been outed... open the shed door and give us the long shot
 :clap  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 21, 2020, 12:15:20 PM
We can ask questions?  :friday Sid..what is the starboard side blower/fan  for? Looks like it is ducted aft of the driver.
Yeah that's the helmet blower that pulls fresh air from outside, it was a blower in a combine cab in it's previous life.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 21, 2020, 12:37:57 PM
Nice work there Sid.... love the way the drivers area is decorated... I figured out how you get in and out... I think... looks like a squeeze.  Cool car... built like it could go fast... very fast...
Love to see the body... love to see it run... now that it's been outed... open the shed door and give us the long shot
 :clap  :cheers:
I built the drivers compartment around easy & fast bailout, getting in takes more work. The steering column pivots between the pedals, is retracted with a nitrogen strut & is locked into the vertical post in front of the seat. The column goes vertical up against the dash & the mount post drops down. The red boat throttle dandle on the left releases the steering, leg net & hatch plus all three have a secondary backup that I can reach while still strapped in & they are clearly marked & easy for rescue to access. From strapped in to standing up takes me 5 seconds.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 21, 2020, 02:07:43 PM
And that shifter knob brings back memories of my youth :cheers:
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: ggl205 on June 21, 2020, 04:02:54 PM
Sid, what are you using to seal the helmet blower fan to the body? I have something similar for my car but it needs a fire retardant seal before it passes tech.

John
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: manta22 on June 21, 2020, 04:46:03 PM
It would not be a bad idea to fit some stainless steel wire screen in the line between the blower and your helmet. It will help act as a flame arrestor in case the worst happens. A filter on the inlet would help, too.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 21, 2020, 08:26:11 PM
Sid, what are you using to seal the helmet blower fan to the body? I have something similar for my car but it needs a fire retardant seal before it passes tech.

John
The body seal is made out of silica cloth because my friend makes turbo & exhaust heat blankets but you could also use Nomex fabric.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: SPARKY on June 22, 2020, 05:53:08 AM
WoW wow wow--- Sid your bag of spuds beats my box of rocks :cheers:
just looking at your efforts brings two thoughts to mind how much time and efforts went into building it but how much more went into beingeneering it 

It is a wonderful sick addiction we have  a tip of the hat brother
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: ggl205 on June 22, 2020, 06:56:50 AM
Thanks, Sid. Just so happens a friend said he has a bunch of Nomex just laying around the shop. BTW, the liner looks great. Love the drive train and driver compartment innovations too. When are the first set of runs planned?

John
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Rex Schimmer on June 22, 2020, 06:46:50 PM
Sid,
Really looking forward to more pics of your liner! I'll bet you haven't kept track of the hours you have in building your dream but no doubt there have been many days , weeks, months, years invested. From what you have shown it is pretty much what I would expect from you, great engineering, great fabrication and a beautiful result!!

More pictures Sid!

Rex
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 23, 2020, 01:15:40 AM
WoW wow wow--- Sid your bag of spuds beats my box of rocks :cheers:
just looking at your efforts brings two thoughts to mind how much time and efforts went into building it but how much more went into beingeneering it 

It is a wonderful sick addiction we have  a tip of the hat brother
Down in Zona you have rock gardens Sparky, up here we grow spuds. Your bag of rocks beats my pile of spuds because yours runs! :-)
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 23, 2020, 01:54:38 AM
Sid,
Really looking forward to more pics of your liner! I'll bet you haven't kept track of the hours you have in building your dream but no doubt there have been many days , weeks, months, years invested. From what you have shown it is pretty much what I would expect from you, great engineering, great fabrication and a beautiful result!!

More pictures Sid!

Rex
Thanks Rex, actually I have kept a fairly lose tally of time & I have over 26,000 hours in it so far. It hasn't been an easy build but I've built it to be easy to run. The engine & all the powertrain is in & all the plumbing is done.
I'm not an I-phone operator so I need to find my camera to get some more pics. It's around here somewhere but I pretty much turned the place up side down to get the nose & tail outside the other day & I've been out at all hours fixing trucks since then. Getting to bed at 1, 2 or 3 am gets to be a little rough on an old fart!
  Sid.
   
   
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: desotoman on June 23, 2020, 10:13:16 AM
Sid,

Nice build, cannot wait to see the rest of the pictures. You are one dedicated person.
26,000 hours is equal to 13 years at a regular 40 hour a week job. My Hat is off to you.  :clap :clap :clap.

Tom G. 
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 24, 2020, 12:58:09 AM
It was March 2007 when I unloaded a pile of steel & started building the chassis. It started out as a D/BFS with two Mitsubishi 4 cyl diesel blocks & cranks together as a 300" straight 8 with single OHC hemi heads, quad turbos, two stage Hilborn injection & crank trigger ignition. It was 4WD with an Allison 1000 trans & T-case.
At that time Harry Jr (Hoffman-Markley) had the record at 367 which seemed pretty doable to me, then George Moneybags came along & put it over 400. So I decided I just needed to build a bigger hammer & gutted the whole thing & started again with the KB600 engine & all new drive line stuff.
I try to limit my working for a living time to less than 30 hours a month, that way I can spend most of my time on the liner but it's a balancing act between time & money.
There's been many times I wished I'd never started this monster & have had to walk away for a while to keep my sanity but I'm not about to give up.
  Sid. 
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: SPARKY on June 24, 2020, 01:19:28 PM
not very often! :lol:
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 24, 2020, 01:35:54 PM
I am not the only person to change plans after George's carpet bombing? More pics Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 26, 2020, 02:14:39 PM
Ok, I took some more pics with my Box-Brownie camera & it talked to the pay phone booth that sent them down the pipe without destroying the internet so you grumblers  :-D will see them as soon as Jon has time to fiddle with them. I've just been busy with broken trucks at all hours.
  Sid.

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Did I miss any of 'em, Sid?
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: SPARKY on June 27, 2020, 12:13:03 AM
well Sid these picts will keep my poor old head occupied trying to identify the function and or the origin of some of the parts in these posts
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 27, 2020, 10:20:36 AM
Thanks Jon, there should be enough here to start a few head scratcher's going. Sparky's on one! :-D
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 27, 2020, 11:06:58 AM
Hmm...  A Pepsi can in one exhaust, a shop rag in the other.  I suppose -- they're plenty big enough to use as storage places, I guess. lol8
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 27, 2020, 01:30:47 PM
Yeah Sid...We old geezers need captions. 8X10 glossies with descriptions on the back. JB
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: dw230 on June 27, 2020, 02:30:22 PM
There are notes on the back of each picture, turn your monitor around.

DW230
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: ronnieroadster on June 27, 2020, 02:33:18 PM
Im trying to figure out the Arm&Hammer Double Duty    :cheers:
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: racergeo on June 27, 2020, 03:08:52 PM
  Not to hijack this tread....but my new HOTROD just came and it has an interesting story called "New Concepts for Advanced Land Speed Racing Car Design". Keeping BV racing in the public discussion. Some interesting ideas.   George
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 27, 2020, 03:30:34 PM
There are notes on the back of each picture, turn your monitor around.

DW230
Aah....so THAT'S what it's all about!😀
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: ggl205 on June 27, 2020, 03:57:29 PM
8X10 glossies with descriptions on the back.

Kind of reminded me of Arlo Guthrie singing a line from ?Alice?s Restaurant.?

John
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Mike Borders on June 27, 2020, 05:39:05 PM
8X10 glossies with descriptions on the back.

Kind of reminded me of Arlo Guthrie singing a line from ?Alice?s Restaurant.?

John

"with circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against us.  Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner, and that's not to mention the aerial photography...."    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 27, 2020, 07:42:23 PM
Okay, Sid:  Here's how to add notes or comments between the pics:

Go to the Sid's Liner post with the pics, and at the very top/right you'll see the buttons for "quote" and "reply" and "MODIFY".  When you click modify you'll see the post - but it'll look like the attached screen shot -- lines and lines of code instead of the photos.  It's easy to tell where one ends and the next begins (I always leave a double space there), and in that space is where you should click your cursor and start typing your comments for the picture BELOW.

It'll help you keep things straight if you make a note of which pic is which so you known which you're talking about.  Go ahead, give it a try, and the worst that'll happen is that you'll do something wrong and crash the entire site, and London Bridge will come falling down, and it'll turn cold outside and all the diesel fuel will gel.  Don't worry -- I'll fix it tomorrow. cromag
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: floydjer on June 27, 2020, 08:02:22 PM
8X10 glossies with descriptions on the back.

Kind of reminded me of Arlo Guthrie singing a line from ?Alice?s Restaurant.?

John
Correct...and a shout -out to the Hokey-Pokey :friday
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 27, 2020, 08:59:15 PM
That is, after all what it's all about.  :cheers:
Wayno
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 28, 2020, 11:06:46 AM
Okay, Sid:  Here's how to add notes or comments between the pics:

Go to the Sid's Liner post with the pics, and at the very top/right you'll see the buttons for "quote" and "reply" and "MODIFY".  When you click modify you'll see the post - but it'll look like the attached screen shot -- lines and lines of code instead of the photos.  It's easy to tell where one ends and the next begins (I always leave a double space there), and in that space is where you should click your cursor and start typing your comments for the picture BELOW.

It'll help you keep things straight if you make a note of which pic is which so you known which you're talking about.  Go ahead, give it a try, and the worst that'll happen is that you'll do something wrong and crash the entire site, and London Bridge will come falling down, and it'll turn cold outside and all the diesel fuel will gel.  Don't worry -- I'll fix it tomorrow. cromag
Thanks for helping with all this Mate! I'll just let it roll & if anybody is interested I'll answer any questions. This whole build is only about me testing myself, it's not a "look at me" thing so now it's out there we can all carry on with our day.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 13, 2020, 12:15:38 AM
I thought I'd filled in some details but that must have been a different dream.
The Engine is a 638" 6 bolt main KB-600 with an 11.250 deck height, Callies crank, dual plug Brodix heads & T&D shaft rockers. Two Electromotive Tech-3 ecu's on a single crank trigger for ignition & driving the Moran injectors. Turbo's are GT6029's & they (4) came off a Detroit 16V-149. Trans is a direct drive billet internals 400 with a modified 4L80E adapter onto a modified NP205 T-case with Chevy & ford output shafts. All the custom shaft's are 300M with Greek Couplers. Front T-case/reverser is built around two 7-1/2" gears from a Liebherr 995 excavator pump drive & there are direct drive/overdrive's in front of both pinions. The front diff is upside down facing backwards & everything has pumps.
Fuel tank is 32 gallons & on CG to not effect balance.
  Sid. 
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Mr. Schimstock on July 13, 2020, 12:17:58 PM
Your machine has come a long way since I saw it last!   It's looking really nice.

Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Rex Schimmer on July 14, 2020, 05:01:25 PM
Sid,
I was wondering if you were running AABG or AABF class but with a 32 gallon fuel tank I am sure it is AABF!! I really like your use of the Liebherr gears for your over drive. Off road mining equipment is quality stuff and STRONG! They make their stuff our of the best materials and use the best manufacturing procedures and heat treats, good stuff. (4) hairdryers(?) are you doing turbo compounding?

Rex
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: Stan Back on July 14, 2020, 05:18:43 PM
"Four hairdryers?"

I understand he's waiting on a permit to open a salon.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 14, 2020, 10:44:43 PM
Sid,
I was wondering if you were running AABG or AABF class but with a 32 gallon fuel tank I am sure it is AABF!! I really like your use of the Liebherr gears for your over drive. Off road mining equipment is quality stuff and STRONG! They make their stuff our of the best materials and use the best manufacturing procedures and heat treats, good stuff. (4) hairdryers(?) are you doing turbo compounding?

Rex
Yeah it is blown fuel Rex. The Liebherr gears are some high dollar 2" wide monsters that were wrongly ordered for a job that I was hired to assist the Factory guys with in Wyoming & I scarfed them up (free) when they didn't want to haul them back to Germany. The direct drive / overdrive units are separate air shift planetary units after both front & rear transfer cases so they have neutral, direct drive & overdrive. They are custom units built by Mike Strasburg at B&J in Utah who also built a lot of the custom shafts & couplers to connect all this together.
The Detroit 149 Series has four of those turbos on one engine & it donated all four to my project but I'm only using two & have two spares. I couldn't afford new ones at $4600 a piece so I hunted these down also in Rock Springs Wyoming & when I told the guy what they were going on he gave them to me. The engine was off a rock crusher & was wounded so was going to scrap.
This is a tiny budget build because my dollars are really tiny. The engine was an Ebay bargain for $3k. I'm guessing most people didn't know what it was because it was installed inverted in a Cirrus pusher experimental aircraft that had never flown & only been run up a few times. I freshened it up & changed all the valve train, a custom grind roller cam, all the oiling system & intake system.
When I can't afford something I have to either scrounge it or build it, this is a recycle-liner.
  Stan, I just mow my head now, don't need no stinking hair dryers! :-D
  Sid.
Title: Re: Kiwi Sid's liner
Post by: saltwheels262 on July 15, 2020, 10:24:39 AM
Beautiful vehicle.
What a great build.
Bf