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Title: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on May 23, 2020, 10:42:51 AM
Fire up the embroiderery machine Slim ! I' ll take two.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on May 23, 2020, 12:19:51 PM
     Great idea!

     I'd order some.  From the virus hit out here in the territories this spring I think they'll be a big part of our "new normal" until a vaccine gets developed and available to everyone..

                Ed
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 23, 2020, 04:36:02 PM
Great idea, gentlemen.  I thought about doing photo masks, but I could just as easily do something racy or landracing.com or such.  Tell me -- what do you want on such a bit of swag?

I checked (just now) with my vendor and yup - I can get plain white fabric single-layer masks and put any artwork or photo or text I want on them.  I'll be able to sell them for $5-7 each, it appears.

As long as I'm on the subject:  I could make some immediately and ship them for now, not wait for SpeedWeek.  I can have the blanks here by this Wednesday and send out the first ones within another day or two.  Should I?  What should be on them?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on May 23, 2020, 04:45:34 PM
I think that a simple "LandRacing.com" with the stylish swooshy- thingy would work.  Whatever you come up with works for me. And we CAN over- pay to offset site costs ..right? JB
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on May 23, 2020, 05:07:54 PM
Put me down for a couple.   :friday

Mike
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: mabsmeier on May 23, 2020, 06:25:23 PM
I would be in for a handful!
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on May 23, 2020, 09:20:13 PM
     Landracing.com/logo would work for me.

     Why wait?  Do some up for now and let us know how much including shipping.

                         Ed
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jacksoni on May 23, 2020, 09:25:57 PM
I made one out of an old T shirt. Something like this with the landracing.com added?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 24, 2020, 12:41:11 PM
Okey-donkey then!  I'll get some masks coming - place the order for 50 or so blanks.  The vendor is closed tomorrow for Memorial Day, so they won't ship 'til Tuesday.  I'll get them Thursday, and since it'll take a few hours (not weeks) for me to get a batch done - I can ship Friday or Saturday.

Most likely they'll have the landracing.com logo stuff - and maybe I'll dick around with a little extra decoration or something.  You'll find out. . .  But I won't have time to personanlise them -- sorry.

I'll put a pic from the catalog up here later - gotta go move the snow thrower to the barn and dig out the lawn mower.  Sheesh!  It's barely past the middle of May and already I've gotta mow?  Life is rough way up north... lol8 lol8 lol8
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: handyguy on May 24, 2020, 01:03:11 PM
   Maybe orange  ones for inspectors   ,,  red   for fast guys  / gals  ,, white for our ANGEL gals  in paperwork  ,,   black for  impound  ,,  green for starters  ,,  purple for --------  ,,  blue for ------ ...    yellow / brown for porta / potty  ..    STEVE
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jimmy six on May 24, 2020, 02:25:20 PM
Made my own, different logo from an "exclusive" club. I'd post a photo is over 500 and I don?t  know how to change it. Stan helped me ..so its upside down.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: racergeo on May 24, 2020, 05:32:44 PM
  I'll take a bunch if you put an outline of floating mountain right at the nose. Then an overview of Challenger 2 heading toward the mountain with a couple orange one mile markers. Then printed below Danny Thompson 448 mph Land Speed Record. If you make the mask suitable for bank robbery and to act as a bandanna you'll have plenty of room. :-D :-D
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on May 24, 2020, 06:23:18 PM
. . . and then attach some whiskers (red) near the bottom so it appears I have a beard.  Right where the mouth hole should be, an outline of a cigarette, which I gave up years ago, tilted to the LEFT, smoldering a little, kinda casual, you know ? sexy in a cancerous way . . .
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 24, 2020, 07:26:45 PM
No problem, gentlemen.  I can do those for you.  Let me put together an estimate of the time I'll need to do the mods and additions so I can quote you the surcharge for a special-design mask.

For Cripe's Sake, guys, these are a bit of swag I'd never thought of before (bet you hadn't, either).  And time is of the essence.  I sure as heck don't want to stock masks like I do old Salt Talks shirts.

And anyway, I'd been trying to come up with a fund raiser.  Bob the Web Elf won't work for free very long, and I have gotta be ready to pay for streaming time and all of that stuff.  But wait before you donate - there's a hitch in the pudding right now.  The PayPal account is not set up right now.  I'll moving to a different bank and can't do the paperwork 'til Tuesday, and then I can open PP.  In the meantime - make sure to encumber the $$ you were just about to send to the site.  Please.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on May 24, 2020, 07:32:58 PM
I thought of it.... :clap
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 24, 2020, 08:55:09 PM
I knokw you did, Jerry. Didn't I say just that?

Oh, maybe I didn't.   Okay - Jerry came up with the idea and I took his spacy concept and turned it into a fund raiser.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: desotoman on May 25, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
Jon,

Maybe in the future you could offer to put the teams name and vehicle number on the masks. If they require them at Bonneville that would be an easy way to identify members of a certain team. And you might be able to sell them by the dozen instead of one or two, since they would be all the same name and number for a team.  Just a thought.

Tom G.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 27, 2020, 11:28:16 AM
I've got 75 blank face masks due in here tomorrow.  I'll put together an idea of what I'll print on them and post that.  I should be able to start shipping by the end of the week.

Now all I need is orders from youse guys.  $8/ea will cover the cost and shipping, and anything more you add would be very nice, thank you.

I got an order for 500 of these from a local company this morning.  Thanks again, Jerry.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on May 27, 2020, 11:30:07 AM
Order using the Donate button, adding address etc?

Mike
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 27, 2020, 12:36:56 PM
Well, I thought I'd have the Paypal up and running by yesterday so you could do it that way, but maybe tomorrow it'll be done.  Sorry...

Mike and everyone:  In the meantime, a PM to me telling me how many you want would be helpful.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 27, 2020, 02:12:28 PM
Oh, I sure hope both SCTA and USFRA bon?t mandate face masks. If you do not sneeze, cough, spit or touch me, I am pretty darn safe without masks. Carry a small tube or bottle (pocket size) and sanitize your hands regularly and we should be good to go. Please, do not fall for all the hype and hysteria!

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: PorkPie on May 27, 2020, 03:18:45 PM
Hi Folks,

just in case - the SCTA/BNI attached yesterday a note about the health protection at the salt during SW....
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: racefanwfo on May 27, 2020, 03:47:17 PM
No face masks they are a waste of time. I refuse to wear one.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on May 27, 2020, 05:29:19 PM
Then stay home.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 27, 2020, 06:12:51 PM
Masks and bandanas appear to be mandatory for workers and officials. Participants are to exercise discretion and maintain social distancing but I didn?t see where they are mandated to wear a mask. All this is very reasonable.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on May 27, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
"No face masks they are a waste of time. I refuse to wear one."

Sure.  Make it easy for the BLM to cancel and never resume it because of your selfishness.  I personally won't feel real bad if you get the virus, but it would pisz me off if you gave it to others.  But, you're special.

It's also your right to jump off a bridge.  Or shoot yourself. 

It's gonna be real hard to have an event with the restrictions that will be applied.  I, personally, don't intend to attend.  Almost 50 years of attendance is more than just a pleasant memory for me.

Good luck to those that will follow the rules and give it their best.  You've still got the opportunity to fukk it up for them.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Doc B. on May 27, 2020, 07:10:35 PM
Last time I raced at Bonneville they made everyone wear helmets even though only one guy crashed. That was around 0.5 percent of all the racers present - about the same as the Covid infection rate in the US population. Only eleven people have died racing on the flats in 108 years. That's peanuts, 40 people die every year on skateboards. I mean, it's not even like you are putting someone else at risk by not wearing a helmet - no one else is going to catch road rash from you. And yet guys happily go out and drop $600 on a helmet like it's the right thing to do - based entirely on some sanctioning body's hype and hysteria. This mask thing is small potatoes. Step up to the plate this year and refuse to wear a helmet.

Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on May 27, 2020, 08:23:15 PM
Who else likes chocolate turtles? I can't be alone . :cheers:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 27, 2020, 08:24:46 PM
So, I guess the question is, will SCTA reject any competitor who does not wear a mask? Their latest document appears to say, they will not.

Doc B., I am normally conversant in subtly but I really didn?t quite understand your message.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: handyguy on May 27, 2020, 09:53:39 PM
   SO " DOC"  ,  lets ask all the people who crashed in some manner how it would have been different without a helmet .  The ones who's brain doesn't work so well we can guess !!
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on May 27, 2020, 10:16:38 PM
So if they didn't wear a helmut, could they pass sudden death and head injury to their friends and others?

Apples, oranges, nuts.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: mc2032 on May 27, 2020, 10:41:42 PM
Luckily my helmet came with a sneeze guard factory installed, so I guess I am good to go.  Now I just gotta get this oil leak of a race bike ready for aug/sept.  I wish my engine had a .01 mortality rate.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Doc B. on May 27, 2020, 10:52:29 PM
I hope you guys who wear helmets are just pulling my leg that I need to explain that something else that makes everyone safe (like a mask to catch high velocity potentially toxic airborne snot, inbound or outbound) is a good idea.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stainless1 on May 28, 2020, 01:27:56 AM
Who else likes chocolate turtles? I can't be alone . :cheers:

Are you talking the ones with caramel and pecans... don't tell me you don't like the ones with pecans....  those are  required in my turtles... unless you are talking about dipping cooked turtles in chocolate... like fondue? then no Jerry I don't like those... when I eat turtle I prefer it in soup with garlic, potatoes and onion.... is it Friday yet?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 28, 2020, 01:42:22 AM
Doc B., I hope you are not telling me I am incapable of not sneezing or coughing high velocity, potentially toxic airborne snot on people and must wear a mask. If you are one of those people, I would suggest you always wear a mask with or with out a virus present. By the way, a simple cloth mask will not save you from a direct hit so it becomes useful only for those who can?t help coughing or sneezing on folks.

Look, I am for practicing all necessary and relevant forms of good practice to stay safe from this or any other disease but many people have a false sense of security about wearing a mask. Talk to just about any medical tech, nurse or doctor, and they will tell you a mask is practically useless against COVID-19, especially simple cloth masks.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on May 28, 2020, 06:43:28 AM
Who else likes chocolate turtles? I can't be alone . :cheers:

Are you talking the ones with caramel and pecans... don't tell me you don't like the ones with pecans....  those are  required in my turtles... unless you are talking about dipping cooked turtles in chocolate... like fondue? then no Jerry I don't like those... when I eat turtle I prefer it in soup with garlic, potatoes and onion.... is it Friday yet?
puh-cons or pea-cans Bob?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jacksoni on May 28, 2020, 08:07:20 AM
Oh come on! All of this-(including wearing a helmet-LOL) is about REDUCING RISK. There isn't anything that is 100% effective. You can ask your health care worker why they are wearing masks, shields and other PPE why they are wearing all that crap if it is practically useless? If the simple cloth ones don't work well enough for you, get a better mask. I don't much want to be part of the next 100K.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: fordboy628 on May 28, 2020, 08:48:57 AM
Oh come on! All of this-(including wearing a helmet-LOL) is about REDUCING RISK. There isn't anything that is 100% effective. You can ask your health care worker why they are wearing masks, shields and other PPE why they are wearing all that crap if it is practically useless? If the simple cloth ones don't work well enough for you, get a better mask. I don't much want to be part of the next 100K.

A sentiment I also share . . . . .


Well, I guess I should start this with a disclaimer that I am not a doctor, or any sort of medical professional . . . . . .  but I have an ex-68 Whiskey, med-tech son and an RN daughter working "on the front lines" . . . . . and I am willing to listen to what their "doctor" colleagues have to say.

Yes, the virus is tiny, 1.25 nanometers, and small enough to pass through any mask, IF, it was a "dry desert particle".   Your lungs, however, don't work like that.   It's a wet environment, and the virus particles are "carried" in and out, on the "microdroplets of moisture" entering and leaving your lungs.    These much larger, micro-particles, are stopped by masks of all types.

And just to be clear, I'm not confused about the effectiveness of masks at all.   I do not "live in fear".   I'm simply intelligent enough to want to "minimize risk". It's why I wore a fire suit, helmet, 6 point restraints, etc, when I tested race cars. I understood the "risk", and took the appropriate steps to "mitigate the risk".

I DO NOT insist that anyone else accept my values, but I DO understand that their "denial" raises the "risk" to others, including myself, and others that I care about. If you wish to accept a "lowest common denominator" approach to risk, or life in general, just know that I do not agree with your choice.    And I will not accept this "additional risk" involuntarily.

This is not about "freedom", or anyone's "presumed rights".   You do not have, and have never had, the right to endanger others.   Either by your words or your actions.  This is really about sensible choices for "public health" and a willingness to show "consideration" for other members of our society.    Since most of us are now in "multiple heightened risk groups" from this pandemic, it would seem that sensible precautions would be in order.

Yes, you have the right to refuse to do this.   Think about how you are portraying yourself to others, and be prepared to accept their judgment of your actions.

JMHO   :dhorse:  :dhorse:  :dhorse:

P.S.  Caramel & pecans please
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stainless1 on May 28, 2020, 08:59:00 AM
Who else likes chocolate turtles? I can't be alone . :cheers:

Are you talking the ones with caramel and pecans... don't tell me you don't like the ones with pecans....  those are  required in my turtles... unless you are talking about dipping cooked turtles in chocolate... like fondue? then no Jerry I don't like those... when I eat turtle I prefer it in soup with garlic, potatoes and onion.... is it Friday yet?
puh-cons or pea-cans Bob?

Puh-cons from Texas are my preference.... I had a turtle with cashews once, not the same, maybe they call that something else.
ya know ya have to slow cook turtles... otherwise you might scorch the caramel.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Peter Jack on May 28, 2020, 09:18:13 AM
Oh come on! All of this-(including wearing a helmet-LOL) is about REDUCING RISK. There isn't anything that is 100% effective. You can ask your health care worker why they are wearing masks, shields and other PPE why they are wearing all that crap if it is practically useless? If the simple cloth ones don't work well enough for you, get a better mask. I don't much want to be part of the next 100K.

A sentiment I also share . . . . .


Well, I guess I should start this with a disclaimer that I am not a doctor, or any sort of medical professional . . . . . .  but I have an ex-68 Whiskey, med-tech son and an RN daughter working "on the front lines" . . . . . and I am willing to listen to what their "doctor" colleagues have to say.

Yes, the virus is tiny, 1.25 nanometers, and small enough to pass through any mask, IF, it was a "dry desert particle".   Your lungs, however, don't work like that.   It's a wet environment, and the virus particles are "carried" in and out, on the "microdroplets of moisture" entering and leaving your lungs.    These much larger, micro-particles, are stopped by masks of all types.

And just to be clear, I'm not confused about the effectiveness of masks at all.   I do not "live in fear".   I'm simply intelligent enough to want to "minimize risk". It's why I wore a fire suit, helmet, 6 point restraints, etc, when I tested race cars. I understood the "risk", and took the appropriate steps to "mitigate the risk".

I DO NOT insist that anyone else accept my values, but I DO understand that their "denial" raises the "risk" to others, including myself, and others that I care about. If you wish to accept a "lowest common denominator" approach to risk, or life in general, just know that I do not agree with your choice.    And I will not accept this "additional risk" involuntarily.

This is not about "freedom", or anyone's "presumed rights".   You do not have, and have never had, the right to endanger others.   Either by your words or your actions.  This is really about sensible choices for "public health" and a willingness to show "consideration" for other members of our society.    Since most of us are now in "multiple heightened risk groups" from this pandemic, it would seem that sensible precautions would be in order.

Yes, you have the right to refuse to do this.   Think about how you are portraying yourself to others, and be prepared to accept their judgment of your actions.

JMHO   :dhorse:  :dhorse:  :dhorse:

P.S.  Caramel & pecans please

Thanks for that Fordboy. That was as usual very well said and I'd just like to second that sentiment.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jacksoni on May 28, 2020, 09:20:20 AM
Who else likes chocolate turtles? I can't be alone . :cheers:

Are you talking the ones with caramel and pecans... don't tell me you don't like the ones with pecans....  those are  required in my turtles... unless you are talking about dipping cooked turtles in chocolate... like fondue? then no Jerry I don't like those... when I eat turtle I prefer it in soup with garlic, potatoes and onion.... is it Friday yet?
puh-cons or pea-cans Bob?

Puh-cons from Texas are my preference.... I had a turtle with cashews once, not the same, maybe they call that something else.
ya know ya have to slow cook turtles... otherwise you might scorch the caramel.
My wife, born in Georgia and makes a great pecan pie, prefers pea-cans, emphasis second syllable. I love turtles too (but not in soup....) :cheers:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 28, 2020, 09:53:49 AM
Health care professionals are mandated to wear masks. Those in my family don?t like it but their circumstances are different from ours. They treat very ill people that are often not aware they jeopardize people around them. Again, chances of contracting this virus via airborne transmission is minimal. It enters the body through contact with mouth, nose and eyes. It is why we are told to minimize hand contact to our face.

This is not a freedom thing for me and believe it or not, my upmost concern is safety. But far too much emphasis surrounds masks (The least likely way to protect ourselves and others) when we should address more significant prevention modalities. If hand transmission is the greater cause of infection, shouldn?t we all carry a small pocket sized bottle of hand sanitizer and use it regularly throughout the day?

Regarding the analogy of racing equipment to virus prevention. All I can say here is to look back several decades and see what the racing community thought was ?safe?. Low or no roll bars, no seat belts, fire suits were street clothes and it goes on. Point is, once we understood what we were dealing with, changes were made in the right direction, a direction that made the most sense.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jacksoni on May 28, 2020, 10:11:40 AM
John- I understand what you are saying. However, current recommendations and data indicate you have it backwards. By far the greatest transmission risk is by airborne droplets of whatever size and hand from a surface to the eye, nose and mouth is much less. But not zero of course. Attempts at protection from both sources is important. How do I know this? I can read the literature and I am a physician rather than some who play them on TV.
Respectfully,
Jack
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 28, 2020, 10:34:41 AM
Finally, an MD has chimed in. Jack, my understanding is the same as yours but with a twist. Those airborne droplets are projected by a sneeze or cough hence, the six foot rule. Once the infectious droplet lands, the virus can stay active of hours/days. It is then picked up by hands and transmitted to the face or through hand contact with others. This is where a mask could be the most effective, controlling the distance these droplets travel. But just as effective is what we have been taught to do when we cough or sneeze and that is to do it in the corner of our elbow. Just as socially responsible.

Yesterday, I went grocery shopping. The store had two large bottles of hand sanitizer at both in and out doors and in several areas around the store. People in masks and some with gloves, moved about the store picking up food, inspecting it, then putting it back. Most of these socially responsible people Ignored the hand sanitizer in store and at the door leaving.

I am not sure what the perfect answer is here but I still maintain that we must use the most preventative means possible. I just do not see wearing masks as that answer when more effective means are available. But I am heavily influenced by two sons, one an MD and the other a nurse, an MD daughter-in-law and an OBGYN son-in-law. They all pretty much say the same thing about how effective masks are to the general public.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: donpearsall on May 28, 2020, 10:57:33 AM
It is just amazing to me that the people who declare that face masks are not effective are the ones who are least qualified to determine this. The WHO, CDC, Mayo Clinic, all of the state and federal medical experts, your own physician, etc. etc all declare that masks will reduce the transmission of the virus. Even I know this from my microbiology degree from 35 years ago.

However those who have no qualifications somehow know better than those who are qualified. I think these are the ones who flunked science class, or worse, never even studied science.

Just because you don't want to wear a mask does not mean you should rationalize that they are not effective. Be real and quit living in your fantasy world.  The reality is that masks will reduce your risk of spreading the virus to others if you are infected, and reduce the risk that you will inhale it from others through aerosol from others around you.

BMST and other racing events have been cancelled because of concern for participant safety. SCTA is taking a big chance with your safety by not requiring masks. Will they be requiring racers to sign a waiver that you will not sue them if you become infected as a result of the lax standards?

There WILL be attendants at Speedweek, in the hotels, in the restaurants, who are infected and do or don't know it.  Those are the odds. When you are standing near that man or woman wouldn't you want to be wearing a mask, and want that person to be wearing a mask?

Don

Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 28, 2020, 11:11:46 AM
Don, Don, Don, even our nation?s lead virologist, Dr. Fauci, goes back and forth on mask effectiveness. There is no one scenario that fits all here so don?t go off on me about the level of education or qualifications it takes to be credible. It makes you appear clueless. You really need to open your eyes or at least read what you posted, most of which is pure speculative crap! Do what you will and with no judgement from me but understand, your rant is about 90% baseless.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on May 28, 2020, 11:29:20 AM
Oh hell  yes.. :clap...
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stainless1 on May 28, 2020, 11:47:29 AM
Who else likes chocolate turtles? I can't be alone . :cheers:

Are you talking the ones with caramel and pecans... don't tell me you don't like the ones with pecans....  those are  required in my turtles... unless you are talking about dipping cooked turtles in chocolate... like fondue? then no Jerry I don't like those... when I eat turtle I prefer it in soup with garlic, potatoes and onion.... is it Friday yet?
puh-cons or pea-cans Bob?

Puh-cons from Texas are my preference.... I had a turtle with cashews once, not the same, maybe they call that something else.
ya know ya have to slow cook turtles... otherwise you might scorch the caramel.
My wife, born in Georgia and makes a great pecan pie, prefers pea-cans, emphasis second syllable. I love turtles too (but not in soup....) :cheers:

Jack... share this one with your wife... I usually go heavy on honey and light on one of the syrups and always use the brown sugar option.  I'm one of those mix and match recipe guys... Friends often ask me to share my Pecan Pie recipe after they have it... If hers isn't a secret family recipe please have your Georgia Peach share it
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: desotoman on May 28, 2020, 12:04:59 PM
Great reading the last 10 or so posts from all across the country. Here is some food for thought.

My girlfriend is a Certified Nursing Assistant working in a rehabilitation center
in So California. One month ago the place where she works got their first case of the virus. As of Tuesday of this week, 50 workers, and 75 residences had got the virus, and sadly 13 of those have died. Every room has liquid sanitizers at the door. Everyone wears face shields and masks. Some of the office workers have got the virus.

Did the people who work there get infected at work or bring it into work we will never know as some people have the virus and don't know it.

Tom G.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: gowing on May 28, 2020, 03:10:48 PM
just ask yourself.... W.W.B.D.D?
(what would Big Daddy do)
Mask Problems solved!  let's go racing!
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Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Doc B. on May 28, 2020, 03:39:50 PM
An interesting read published yesterday. I should point out that it is a scientific publication, i.e., it was submitted for peer review before publication. I mean no disrespect to those who have other belief systems by posting this. Also a transparency notice - an old high school and college chum of mine who I haven't spoken to in about 25 years is a senior editor for this publication. I have no clue if he participated in the review of this article.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/27/science.abc6197 (https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/27/science.abc6197)
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on May 28, 2020, 04:45:11 PM
Thanks, Doc B., all good stuff.

Here is one article I picked up from the JAMA Network. This article addressed an issue I personally have with wearing a mask for prolonged time periods. For me, that period is around ten minutes before feeling the effects. Sorry for not posting a link but I could not generate one as it was part of several other articles.

April 18, 2020

Potential Risks When Some Special People Wear Masks

Zheng Zhaoshi, PH.D. M.D. | No. 1 Department of Neurology, The Third Hospital of Jilin University
As more asymptomatic patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection are found in the world, wearing N95 masks is undoubtedly an effective respiratory protective measure (1). However, wearing an N95 mask for a long time may bring potential risks and even complications that are difficult to eliminate.

Oxygen concentration inhaled by healthy subjects wearing a surgical mask covering an N95 respirator decreases to about 17%, and the concentration of carbon dioxide increases to about 1.2% - 3% in a short period of light work (2-3). Although participants did not show any obvious changes in physical function and did not have any discomfort ratings, the average carbon dioxide concentration inhaled was far higher than the limit of 0.1% of indoor carbon dioxide concentration in many countries. With prolonged mask wearing, untoward reactions may gradually appear. In another long-term study, after wearing an N95 mask for 12 hours the CO2 concentration of subjects increased to 41.0 mmHg, far higher than the baseline value of 32.4mm Hg at the beginning of the test (4). The subjects mainly reported headache, dizziness, feeling tired and communication obstacles. In real life, the situations and time of wearing masks are much longer than the above experimental research settings.

Therefore, when taking strong measures to prevent and control COVID-19 we should also pay attention to implementation of individualized strategies. Pregnant women and patients with basic respiratory diseases are the most vulnerable groups. These high-risk groups should try to choose a way of isolation away from others. Many kindergartens and middle schools in many provinces of China have begun to resume classes or plan to resume classes in the near future. Most of them require students to wear masks during the school period. It is questionable that students wear masks for a long time, especially for the children in low school years.

We declare no conflict of interest.

Reference
1. Offeddu V, Yung C F, Low M S, et al.Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.Clinical Infectious Diseases, 2017, 65(11): 1934-1942. doi: 10.1093/cid/cix681

2. Roberge R J, Coca A, Williams W J, et al. Surgical mask placement over N95 filtering facepiece respirators: physiological effects on healthcare workers[J]. Respirology, 2010, 15(3): 516-521. doi:10.1111/j.1440-1843.2010.01713.x

3. Sinkule E J, Powell J B, Goss F L, et al.Evaluation of N95 Respirator Use with a Surgical Mask Cover: Effects on Breathing Resistance and Inhaled Carbon Dioxide.Annals of Occupational Hygiene, 2013, 57(3): 384-398. doi:10.1093/annhyg/mes068

4. Rebmann T, Carrico R, Wang J, et al.Physiologic and other effects and compliance with long-term respirator use among medical intensive care unit nurses. American Journal of Infection Control, 2013, 41(12): 1218-1223. doi:10.1016/j.ajic.2013.02.017.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jimmy six on May 28, 2020, 06:09:21 PM
Don't know he motorcycle rules that well but I just need to go into my fire suit/helmet bag and get out my head sock I'm required to wear. I guess I'm ready to go....Oh wait a minute, I'm not going not with an aluminum truck anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on May 28, 2020, 06:25:05 PM
You've already paid your price to the Salt Gods.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 04, 2020, 11:46:39 AM
It took long enough to get the blanks I wanted to use, but finally --- here's the Landracing.com face mask.  They're three-ply (polyester-cotton-polyester), the white area is about 7 1/2" wide and tall enough to cover my chin whiskers but not Johnboy's beard.   Overall width (ear-to-ear) is a little under 13".

$8/each includes tax, title, and license and shipping, too.

I can personalise them - team name, vehicle number, your name, etc.  I will be glad to discuss quantity prices, too, if you want a batch for the whole group.  Get in touch with me and we'll chat.

Consider this a fund raiser.  Landracing.com needs some $$, so please dig kinda deep when you order.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 04, 2020, 12:43:19 PM
I've already heard from/got orders from:

Ridge Runner,     4 Barrel Mike,   Jack Iliff,   Floydjer*.

Why does Jerry get an asterisk?  'Cause his messages have asked for two different quantities of mask.  How many do you really want, Jerry?

I'm gonna start making them today.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on June 04, 2020, 02:10:22 PM
     Lookin' great!

     I just hit the paypal button and got a message that said they couldn't do it "the receiver doesn't have a paypal account".  Do you expect that to be fixed soon or you want me to send payment via snail mail?

                       RidgeRunner Ed
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: donpearsall on June 04, 2020, 03:17:11 PM
I would like to order two also. What do we click?

Don
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on June 04, 2020, 03:19:07 PM
Jon..Go with two (2) ...I have no friends.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on June 04, 2020, 04:06:48 PM
Jon..Go with two (2) ...I have no friends.  :cheers:

One for you and one for Wilson?  lol8

Mike
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on June 04, 2020, 05:49:57 PM
 No Mike.....for my other hand....
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stainless1 on June 05, 2020, 12:21:14 AM
I just sent you $25 for 2... I guess I should send my address....
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on June 05, 2020, 01:07:18 AM
Money for two masks sent with a little extra using the "Donate" button.  Clicked on the msg tag and added my address.

Waiting with bated breathe. 8-)

Mike
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 05, 2020, 03:48:22 PM
I made 15 or 20 of the masks this afternoon.  I'll sort out your orders and addresses and mail the masks over the weekend.

As for the Paypal - I don't know WTF is going on with it.  I thought it was all set up, but some of you say that it isn't right.  I'll get it going.  US Mail works if you want to mail a check or money order -- 509 Dukes Road Skandia Michigan 49885

Thanks, all that have already ordered.  I'll post a photo later.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on June 05, 2020, 04:10:54 PM
     I've had go 'rounds with my 'puter so I know some of my trouble was on my end but you say others have had troubles too?  :roll:

     I thought I finally got the donation, order, and attached note to go through this morning.  If it hasn't made it yet let me know and I'll do it via US Mail and keep you posted with a PM.

                   Thanks,

                   Ed

Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on June 05, 2020, 07:59:34 PM
Five-o-nine??..oops. Tell the guy at 503 to cough up your mail muutt
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 08, 2020, 09:47:40 AM
Geez our post office is open 9-11 Saturday mornings and I managed to miss that, so the masks go out today to:

Stainless
Mike
Jerry
Don

It looks like one other request got pulled back - maybe because I'm still fiddling around with the Paypal. 

Did I miss anyone?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on June 08, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
Check (for the cheek cover) is in the mail.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on June 08, 2020, 12:00:07 PM
     Thanks for the updte.

     Donation should have got 1/2 way there, paypal deduction showed out of my bank acct Sat morning.  Not sure how far the note I sent with the order got.  Any questions or need more info send me a PM via the site.

                  Ed

   
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stainless1 on June 08, 2020, 01:05:02 PM
Geez our post office is open 9-11 Saturday mornings and I managed to miss that, so the masks go out today t 


Wow they work hard on a Saturday up north... ours is open 9-1030
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on June 08, 2020, 01:33:11 PM
 The extra 30 minutes is used putting the ponies back in their stalls Bob..... :cheers:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on June 09, 2020, 07:50:12 AM
     When checking my account again this morning I see it showed credited what had been shown deducted yesterday morning for the order/donation via Paypal.  What the????  Maybe the yellow Paypal rookie stripe on my back bumper????

     Good check and a note will be headed your way via US Mail today - if the window is open to provide their "service".... :-D

     Thanks for your patience.

              Ed
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: dw230 on June 09, 2020, 02:24:04 PM
Jon,

Angie and I were thinking that a face mask may be a good table gift for the 2 club banquet, if we are allowed to have one. Venues seem to be highly restricted as of now.

We think that a slightly modifed logo would work. Please drop an email or phone call to discuss.

Dan Warner
President
Bonneville 200 MPH Club
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 15, 2020, 01:45:07 PM
Masks mailed today:   Jack Iliff, Ed Purinton (boyoboy, Ed, the P O doesn't like the address you supplied on the note and your check.  I said "Don't worry - the mailman will know him by his reputation, no doubt!" so they'll try. 

Also mailed the other day were Dan Meier and Stan Back.  Thanks, gentlemen.  Now what are the rest of you waiting for?  Masks are gonna be in style for a while, so get a supply of these and support the website while you're at it.  Please.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on June 15, 2020, 02:38:21 PM
Support your favorite LSR forum!  :cheers:

Mike
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: ggl205 on June 15, 2020, 05:00:34 PM
That look is almost good enough for a local stop and rob.

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on June 15, 2020, 06:46:11 PM
I wear mine in every place that allows my entrance. Both of them. :cheers:
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: donpearsall on June 15, 2020, 06:55:28 PM
Thanks Jon! Got my masks today. They fit well. Much more stylish than my dust mask that looks like I am going to sand something.
Don
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on June 15, 2020, 09:40:12 PM
     Thanks for the update Jon.  I'll be keeping an eye out for 'em now.

      You nailed it, I'm sure they haven't forgotten the guy that never hesitates to remind 'em what the last word is in their company name when the need arises..... :wink:

              Ed
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stan Back on June 16, 2020, 11:27:39 AM
So Jon orders dozens of them ? and by my count, less than a dozen have ordered them.  Come on you sorry asses.  I see that hundreds of viewers take advantage of this great website for free.  He's got money out and probably could lose money on this deal that everyone thought was a great idea.  Order a couple and round up the money to support this site as Jon doesn't need the burden of doing by himself.

(No site owner was involved in this message.)
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Queeziryder on June 16, 2020, 12:09:21 PM
Stan,
I would love to order some and support Jon, but USPS being the pile of s%^&t that they are I would be lucky to see them inside 6 months.
I ordered some bike bits from a dealer in Florida and USPS sat on them for 4 months before deciding to ship them

Neil
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Lemming Motors on June 17, 2020, 06:02:27 AM
Neil

I am gonna give it a go (and some tee's at the same time) and see how they get on coming to the UK.

I ordered some US tires via a UK based importer of drag stuff  aktion086 - he makes USPS look like wing footed gods. The front tires arrived this week (third attempt) after 13 months from initial order - Elmo - if you read this raise a glass to my lesson; don't try and save a few bucks - use proper couriers  lol8

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Queeziryder on June 17, 2020, 08:25:45 AM
John,
If you want to get some extra's and combine shipping I'll split the cost, and send some extra $$ to Jon

Neil
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: RidgeRunner on June 19, 2020, 01:50:37 PM
Jon,

     Masks arrived this morning in fine shape with nary a stamped message, note on the envelope, or comment from anyone behind the counter as to the address.  Address deal got to be a bit of a long story, I'll try to condense it in a PM to you when I get a chance.

      We'll be putting the masks right into use.  The numbers are finally getting better but the virus is still a real deal around here.

                                All our best for everyone to stay safe and stay healthy,

                                Ed
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 19, 2020, 02:49:50 PM
Geez, how'd that happen?  It appears that the Paypal account I set up for landracing.com got saddled with my name.  Ergo I say unto you:

Jon Wennerberg  a/k/a jonwennerberg (at) nancyandjon (dot) org  is what you'll go to to pay for masks/make donations.  Thanks, everybody.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jacksoni on June 19, 2020, 05:23:42 PM
Masks arrived Jon- look great! Thanks.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Lemming Motors on June 20, 2020, 06:34:02 AM
Jon

Did my PM get through for 4x masks and 2x XL Tees to the UK?

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jl222 on July 03, 2020, 05:38:22 PM

 Figuring out how many to order about 8, and can you put 2  2   2  with the middle 2 centered above the Land racing logo. Cost more?

             Jl222
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jl222 on July 05, 2020, 11:52:44 PM

 Figuring out how many to order about 8, and can you put 2  2   2  with the middle 2 centered above the Land racing logo. Cost more?

             Jl222

  Hey jon, we tried to buy the facemasks today , order button - paypal -amount ect, but credit card denied.

  Card is paid in full every month ?  Tried another card and keeps going back to original card. Troy gave up in frustration.

  So can we mail you a check  and directions on amount of mask and the 222 above the LR logo?


                          jl222
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 06, 2020, 02:50:10 PM
Like this, or do you want things moved more?  Let me know - it's easy.  No price change for this mod.

As for Paypal, I'm stumped if it doesn't work for you, so sending a check to me is cool.

509 Dukes Road
Skandia Michigan 49885
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 06, 2020, 03:08:55 PM
John, I recollect that you wanted a pair of shirts - and allowed me to use my discretion and send some that might be too good for a shop rag.  Was that it?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: jl222 on July 06, 2020, 03:20:18 PM
Like this, or do you want things moved more?  Let me know - it's easy.  No price change for this mod.

As for Paypal, I'm stumped if it doesn't work for you, so sending a check to me is cool.

509 Dukes Road
Skandia Michigan 49885

  Sending a check for 8 mask and keep the change, 

   Mask would look better with normal 222 spacing

  No t shirts got to many now.

                 JL222
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: handyguy on July 06, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
ANY COLORS  , like orange ??   STEVE
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 06, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
Steve, I use a dye process, not a paint or screen ink, so I start with a white fabric.  I can color it - hey, I could even make it orange, I betcha.  Orange with the lr.com logo?  Make it worth my while and I'll do it. 
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Queeziryder on July 08, 2020, 02:45:32 PM
Hi Slim,
Have you managed to sort out a shipping price yet?
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 08, 2020, 03:50:22 PM
The dude at FedEx told me to bring in the package, ready to ship, and that's when he'll tell me the cost.  Ain't that helpful?

To reiterate, you want 4 masks - they're ready to go.  Shirts, did you say, but only if they're vintage or something like that?  Please don't ask for XL size - that's the most popular and ergo the least likely to be available in any particular vintage.
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Queeziryder on July 09, 2020, 03:18:13 AM
Hey Jon,
If you're OK with paying the FedEx man then great.  :clap
I'll pay you the total plus a bit as soon as you let me know.

Regarding the Tee's I'm a big fat bloke, so US 3xl or similar  :cheers:

Thanks for your help
Neil
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Lemming Motors on July 09, 2020, 03:31:05 AM
Jon
Sorry , I missed your note.
Two tees XL and 4 masks please.

In fairness I only wear old worn out tee shirts in the workshop and it?s a compliment that yours don?t melt (they are quality) but in fact I have resolved the grinder / cutoff disc red hot dust dissolving my clothes. I think it is Rex?s avatar photo showing a young man in a leather apron and eventually the penny dropped. Why I didn?t figure that out years ago .....

John
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: PorkPie on July 17, 2020, 05:31:07 AM
my order just arrived well

so, folks, if you has not order yours, time to do it.....

...maybe you have to wait a little bit....

as Jon is, let's say, currently out of order

Jon, all the best recovering and thanks a lot

Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Stainless1 on July 17, 2020, 08:21:16 AM
Nice masks there Pork Pie... I like them... guess I need to order a couple more
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: PorkPie on July 17, 2020, 08:45:18 AM
Like you, Stainless,

this is one of my favorite picture of the Bockscar, not, because, I "sit" in....no, it just shows the racer, with Barc in the back, how small he actually is....."seat", engine, wheels....not more....

Jon got the picture, so he can create more for you.......

and to Jon, if you delete this picture after the print, let me know and I will send it again.....



Nice masks there Pork Pie... I like them... guess I need to order a couple more
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 17, 2020, 12:58:39 PM
Update:  I think I'll make up a few dozen masks and take 'em to SpeedWeek.  I also think I'm going to make this years' swag/fundraiser item a laser-engraved pocketknife.  Nice a easy to pack in the truck.  The blade is about 1 3/4" long or so.

I'll post 2 pics so you can see both sides.  I might be able to have 40-50 with me.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/IMG_6622.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/SeldomSeenSlim/a/729d56c5-21eb-4c4e-8215-4507ddf56f1b/p/5314658c-7c07-4004-ab27-64947837179d)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/IMG_6624.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/SeldomSeenSlim/a/729d56c5-21eb-4c4e-8215-4507ddf56f1b/p/98b70013-eadb-4e48-a989-2d4f47a059b8)


I engraved one of these for myself three years ago.  I'm pleased that it hasn't worn or faded much at all.  It gets used lots, just like a small pocketknife oughta!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/IMG_6614.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/SeldomSeenSlim/a/729d56c5-21eb-4c4e-8215-4507ddf56f1b/p/fa238980-b93b-4726-8f32-703b425950d6)

Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: floydjer on July 17, 2020, 08:55:38 PM
Way cool. Sadly, I am not allowed to have a pocket knife. How much should I need some as gifts??
Title: Re: Land Racing face masks!!!
Post by: Queeziryder on July 26, 2020, 11:49:49 AM
Jon
As you seem to back in the land of the living  :-D
Any update on my masks etc?

Cheers
Neil  :cheers: