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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => SCTA Rule Questions => Topic started by: MRK on May 10, 2020, 05:52:24 PM

Title: 2020 Rule books
Post by: MRK on May 10, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
Hey all,
The 2020 rule books are in the post. I received my copies on Saturday.
There were some new rule book coordinators this year and they did a helluva job! Big thanks to all who chipped in.
Cheers, Mike


Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: mtiberio on May 10, 2020, 07:52:18 PM
Just in time for next weekend?s event at El Mira... Oh wait.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stainless1 on May 15, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
They have arrived in Kansas.... a lttle beat up by USPS... but they repackaged it in a plastic bag with an apology for rough handling...  aktion086
Thanks SCTA volunteers for getting them out  :cheers:
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on May 15, 2020, 11:30:25 AM
Received in OHIO! :cheers:
Shameless plug: Check page 66 - I'm in good company!  :-o
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Billy @ AHG on May 15, 2020, 01:19:50 PM
Yes , 2020 book arrived in Utah !   little beat up also but the book is fine .
My question is ; page 17 thru 20 is all in bold print , so new rules ? Ok , what about 1.V there has always been a paragraph addressing this , seems to read the same . Is something here I'm not seeing ?    Thanks ! 
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: trimmers on May 15, 2020, 02:53:18 PM
Yeah, it looks like they forgot to turn off the bold font at some point in there.

Jeff in Boise
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: ronnieroadster on May 15, 2020, 02:59:13 PM
The rule book has arrived on the right coast today.     :-)
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stan Back on May 15, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
I've only glanced at it . . .

But my impression is that part of it revolves around fuel specifications without an "Event Gas".  Which may not always be available at Bonneville.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stan Back on May 16, 2020, 06:05:52 PM
Looking again ? this appears to be the least changed Rule Book in a long time.  But, you'd better pay attention.  The least little thing might sabotage your record certification.

We had it happen to us once.  Not something we didn't comply with, but having the Official add words to the rule in the book.  And have a committee chair back it up when he was quoted the same (modified) rule.  And this was early in the day before serious drinking.  Oh, well.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stan Back on May 16, 2020, 06:24:12 PM
On a happier note ? I'm looking at the El Mirage D/Blown Fuel Roadster record by Jim Amrheim of Team Fercockta at 223.320.  He's from Highland ? which we always considered a suburb of San Berdoo.  Yes, the record's a little soft ? still over 10 MPH over the E record ? but it's 45 Years Old!   I've enclosed a couple of pix from (probably) 1972.

If I remember correctly (which isn't always that way), they also held the F/Fuel Roadster record for decades with a MoPar Slant-6.  It had fuel injectors with no butterflies.  How'd that work?  I have no idea, but it ran pretty fast.



Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: 07R1LSR on May 17, 2020, 11:47:30 AM
Recieved mine here in Meridian Idaho a few days ago
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: manta22 on May 17, 2020, 11:56:50 AM
Mine arrived earlier this week.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: elco on May 17, 2020, 01:04:45 PM
Lucky lol.  Still waiting here.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: kiwi belly tank on May 17, 2020, 01:19:04 PM
Mine's been here a few days but like all my snail mail it's spending time in the quarantine bucket before I handle it.
  Sid.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stainless1 on May 17, 2020, 02:04:52 PM
Sid, everclear (190 proof ethanol) drys quickly, sanitizes immediately, and can be put in a small spray bottle for use.  It is my go to hand, mail, grocery and breath sanitizer. 
Just saying  :cheers:
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: floydjer on May 17, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
I should order a new book...last time I did that, I ended up receiving two rule books and three shirts. Not bad for $10.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: kiwi belly tank on May 17, 2020, 07:19:16 PM
Sid, everclear (190 proof ethanol) drys quickly, sanitizes immediately, and can be put in a small spray bottle for use.  It is my go to hand, mail, grocery and breath sanitizer. 
Just saying  :cheers:
I squirt everything with a bleach soap mix but not my breath, although Trump did think a guzzle or two might be medicinally advantageous! Mate, hold my bleach......
  Sid.
 
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: manta22 on May 17, 2020, 09:19:37 PM
I just buy a gallon of denatured alcohol at Home Depot.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: SPARKY on May 17, 2020, 09:22:07 PM
 :dhorse: Andy's copy was beat up by the post office also
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: floydjer on May 17, 2020, 09:25:54 PM
I just buy a gallon of denatured alcohol at Home Depot.
Well sure....just make sure you mix it with something Neil :cheers:
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: jimmy six on May 17, 2020, 10:34:34 PM
No butterfly injectors fork just fine Jim. I remember a few who have done it. Cree was the last one I think. Take your butterflies out and they will work too. If you think your engine will just run to explosion, think again. It can't rev or over rev without fuel... where does the fuel come from?. not the fuel pump, it comes from the barrel valve. You control fuel by the valve. Think about it. as you would adjust your idle screw opening up the butterflies what did you also do???? You opened the barrel valve too. So you control idle with the barrel valve and connect you throttle pedal cable to it......Granted it's not the smoothest but that's how it's done..Neil Thompson did it and so did Clifford Clark.




jd
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stan Back on May 18, 2020, 10:42:48 AM
Seems like they'd run pretty lean at idle.  Probably not a good street set-up.

I barely knew Clark.  He borrowed my Enderles to see how they were set up compared to what he was manufacturing.  Took me six months or so to get them back ? completely disassembled.  I was not happy.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: manta22 on May 18, 2020, 11:14:40 AM
I just buy a gallon of denatured alcohol at Home Depot.
Well sure....just make sure you mix it with something Neil :cheers:

Why mix it with anything?
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on May 18, 2020, 11:35:27 AM
Because it might run better with Nitro in it cromag
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: floydjer on May 18, 2020, 11:59:30 AM
Because it might run better with Nitro in it cromag
Hard to argue that. :clap
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: MRK on May 18, 2020, 12:09:39 PM
Yes , 2020 book arrived in Utah !   little beat up also but the book is fine .
My question is ; page 17 thru 20 is all in bold print , so new rules ? Ok , what about 1.V there has always been a paragraph addressing this , seems to read the same . Is something here I'm not seeing ?    Thanks !

The reason those pages are in bold is because there was some consolidation of what was stated in the motorcycle section and what was already in the general rules section. Nothing really new just calling out the move of information. Page 95 for example has a "rule change" called out in a bold font.
Not to say you should ignore these changes in section 1, just an explanation why the bold font.
Cheers
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: desotoman on May 18, 2020, 12:44:39 PM

Seems like they'd run pretty lean at idle.  Probably not a good street set-up.


Stan, I remember being at El Mirage years ago and the car that was on the starting line sounded very strange. Motor would rev very high then sound like someone would kill the motor, then rev high again, and kill the motor. This sequence just keep going on until they pushed the car off.  I thought to myself what is wrong with that car. It was a lakester and at the time it could have been Walkey's or which later was sold to Creel as I remember. Anyway I found them in the pits and asked what all the noise at the starting line was about and they told me that there were no butterflies in the injectors and that to be able to control the injectors at idle they had a kill switch they would activate when the motor would rev up and they would release when the revs dropped down to keep the motor running. At the time it did not seem to safe to me, but under a load I could see how it would work.

Tom G.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: kiwi belly tank on May 19, 2020, 12:40:54 PM
One of the desirable things about LSR is that innovation is still allowed, unlike pretty much every other motorsport. I can't imagine trying to drive a car with a WW-I technology "blip switch" but hey,.... if you want to you can! :?
Where's your two throttle return springs? I don't have a throttle! Ohh-Kay....
  Sid.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: floydjer on May 19, 2020, 03:02:46 PM
Agree completely Sid..Last form of racing where an amateur stands a chance..And I like coloring outside of the lines. JB.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Dodge Brother on June 05, 2020, 01:08:05 AM
Anyone North of the 49th get their rule books yet? I usually get mine about a week or so after those in the USA but nothing yet.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: GD on June 05, 2020, 08:34:53 AM
Not yet.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: n49racer on June 05, 2020, 09:46:18 AM
Nothin up here yet but all the igloos look the same and the house numbers won?t stick to the snow and keep falling off

 :cheers: lol8
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Stan Back on June 05, 2020, 11:24:38 AM
I understand they're in 14-day quarantine in your furrin' country.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Peter Jack on June 05, 2020, 01:15:59 PM
Anything that crosses the border seems to get stored for a while on principle. Those large buildings aren't the sorting stations they're rumoured to be, they're storage depots!

Pete
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: elco on June 05, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
I think all mail is a Little messed up right now. I ordered over a month ago and nothing yet, and I am in Az.
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: deepindebt on June 05, 2020, 06:58:47 PM
In Komifornia, and I got one with my membership and another that I ordered for a friend 
Title: Re: 2020 Rule books
Post by: Dodge Brother on June 06, 2020, 12:58:24 AM
Thanks! I guess I'll keep stalking the mail box  :?