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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: Ecta on October 23, 2019, 11:29:05 AM
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We are excited to announce that 1.5 mile racing is returning to the west coast. The Spaceport America invitational will be February 22 & 23, In Sierra county New Mexico. This is a 30 vehicle closed event. For more info email info@ectamile.com
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Now that is CONFUSING!!!
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EAST Coast Timing Association has a strange view of "West Coast" 1drink lol8
Mike
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The coast is only 800 miles away. If it's real quiet in New Mexico, you can hear the waves breaking in La Jolla.
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I think a name change is in order, maybe the West of the Mississippi Timing Association (WOTMTA) or Middle America Timing Association (MATA) and do red hats with MATA on them.
This sounds like a neat event, the facilities look first class. I will miss smokey casino rooms that are quadrupled in price for races, but I'm sure New Mexico will catch on quick.
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Whats the cost and the rules? Would be nice if information was listed here to let racers know if its worth the effort. My Lambo im sure will be good for this event and safe.
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Each vehicle will be considered on a case-by-case basis email a brief description of the vehicle to Info@ectamile.com
Thank you Steve
Lambos are welcome.
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If it is not a one off meet, it will become the "Bolivia" of pavement LSR with altitude of 4600' and 12,000' of fresh concrete traction. Thanks to those who put the event together. Wish I was younger and lived closer. Burned out after traveling to Bonneville for 40 years from the East Coast. We could see 300 again by both bike and car. Take pics someone and Good Luck. LSL
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4600' altitude? Dang - that means the Bonneville tuneup will be pretty close to start with. How convenient. :clap :clap
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I contacted Spaceport about the February event and here was the reply:
Hi, John.
Thank you for your interest.
The event is open to all vehicles. It is invitation-only and is exclusively for 200+mph vehicles. The field is limited to 30 teams and the entry fee is $3000.
Please feel free to contact Steve at 812-305-0710 to discuss further details.
Best Regards,
CJ
Maybe, over time and a larger entry field, cost will come down.
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3K to play...... :roll:
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If it is not a one off meet, it will become the "Bolivia" of pavement LSR with altitude of 4600' and 12,000' of fresh concrete traction.
The first question I would ask is how they poured the concrete! Why you ask, well I remember many years ago the SCTA took a few cars up to Vandenburg air force base to see how the cars would work on the concrete surface there. As I recall it was OK for suspended cars, but cars without suspension could not run as they became unstable over 150 to 200 because of the way the concrete was poured in sections as I recall. That was many years ago, but it would still be a valid question.
Tom G.
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3K to play...... :roll:
Well there goes the thoughts of any savings from the jacked up casino hotel room rates during speed week! Event gas prices might be reasonable :laugh:
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Has anyone seriously considered going for the wheel-driven record on such a course? 1.05 G for a mile and a half gets you to 500. (Yes, I know it wouldn't be an FIA record without a flying kilo, but still...)
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Having the 200 MPH requirement will be great for the supercar idea the ECTA is now promoting. I think the Black Lambo that hit 233 in the half mile earlier this year at the ECTA event would be a perfect fit for this event or the green one. I think one of those Lambos crashed while pursuing some high speed fun on the street the car was totaled so much for the safety aspects built into them.
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Kinda glad I can go to Loring, ME for a 1.5 mile pavement event for a lot less!
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Kinda glad I can go to Loring, ME for a 1.5 mile pavement event for a lot less!
I agree completely great track. And a great bunch of people who run the LTA they truly enjoy having true LSR type vehicles running at their events. :cheers:
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Having the 200 MPH requirement will be great for the supercar idea the ECTA is now promoting. I think the Black Lambo that hit 233 in the half mile earlier this year at the ECTA event would be a perfect fit for this event or the green one. I think one of those Lambos crashed while pursuing some high speed fun on the street the car was totaled so much for the safety aspects built into them.
A couple of years ago (before the accident), I had the opportunity to race with a group of Lambos in a 1/2 mile event. One of the folks was running in the 260+ range. From my discussion with a crew chief, they are "tapped" out in the 1/2 mile. If gearing is changed to run the 1 mile, then the cars become unstable because of the "drive" is reduced and the suspension is unloaded.
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From my discussion with a crew chief, they are "tapped" out in the 1/2 mile. If gearing is changed to run the 1 mile, then the cars become unstable because of the "drive" is reduced and the suspension is unloaded.
Sounds like they need more wing. Or do the rules specify stock body?
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EAST Coast Timing Association has a strange view of "West Coast" 1drink lol8
Mike
SCTA has a strange view of "Southern California".
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Has anyone seriously considered going for the wheel-driven record on such a course? 1.05 G for a mile and a half gets you to 500. (Yes, I know it wouldn't be an FIA record without a flying kilo, but still...)
Actually, a flying kilo trap in the middle of 12,000 feet is an almost identical run to the course for this 1.5 mile. At about no cost, an additional set of lights could be set up a kilo from the finish. If enough racers figured out they could set world records, someone like Mike Cook could put on a meet here with a 2-way course and FIA sanction. For smaller displacement Category A cars, this would be a quite suitable course.
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How many of you know who Army Armstrong is?
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I heard him announce a monster truck event once.
John
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SCTA has a strange view of "Southern California".
[/quote] Hows that? SCTA runs El Mirage. Well inside Southern California. BNI runs Bonneville.
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"How many of you know who Army Armstrong is?"
Navy Navelbuff's cousin?
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OK Ecta.... I am curious why you asked the question
How many of you know who Army Armstrong is?
Is is because he was honored at the Holly Hot Rod Reunion or is he planning on running the 1.5 somewhere?
Just wondering how he ended up in this thread :cheers:
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"How many of you know who Army Armstrong is?"
Navy Navelbuff's cousin?
:-D
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OK Ecta.... I am curious why you asked the question
How many of you know who Army Armstrong is?
Is is because he was honored at the Holly Hot Rod Reunion or is he planning on running the 1.5 somewhere?
Just wondering how he ended up in this thread :cheers:
Maybe hes the owner of a Lambo with all the factory built in safety stuff. Easy 200 MPH car :laugh:
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Two things, first as an observation and having been in the commercial construction business for over 30 years when my health decided I couldn?t work any longer. If the concrete doesn?t have adequate construction joints it?s going to crack all to hell. At over 200 MPH I imagine these joints feel like they are 3? high and they would probably occur every 30? or so. If you got on the concrete at the correct time, which isn?t too soon or the concrete would tear or too late and it would already be cracking in ever which direction it wanted then when it started spalling off on the edges of the and when bad enough you had to start patching it, Wallah you have a nostalgic track similar to the Maxton Mile.
Second: I decided to retire from LSR
after the Spring Meet in Wilmington because the 12 hour trip was taking its toll on my Rheumatoid Arthritis, And Parkinson?s but I think my heart and especially blood pressure was better when I made plans for my truck and when to go and making travel plans because since I retired I have had 7 more Strokes, no I don?t mean TIA?S which there have been plenty of those but full fledged Strokes. I turned 70 this year but my BP is the best it has been in 45 years so without any announcements to my family I decided I would go Racing one more time and not to Ohio or Arkansas but to the Bonneville World Of Speed to claim one of the 130 MPH Club spots, after all how hard could that be. I had read over the years how hard the Salt could be to the finish of a nice car so I certainly would not want to go the 1800 miles
Very uncomfortably with 3 people in my 2010 HEMI Orange Pearl never been in the rain , 40,000 mile HEMI Challenger nor in my 24,000 mile, never rained on, 430 RWHP 1998 Corvette. So I decided I needed a cheap but in good condition to make the trip to and back from Bonneville and big enough to be comfortable, carry our gear and run over 130 MPH then back it up. After lots of research I bought a 2006 Decommissioned Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 130,000 miles is nothing on late model Electronic Engines plus these come with Oil Coolers, Heavy Duty Suspension And with 250 HP and I had plans to easily bring it to over 300 HP and after talking to some Officers that had been involved in over 130 MPH pursuits it seemed the perfect car so I found a Detectives car which is the most desirable. I have 3 really good Volunteers to go with me. 130+ MPH one way and have all day to back it up, what could be easier? I am intending to replace every system and component on the car for dependability. Then yesterday in trying to gather more info I found a story about 3 Friends who also wanted to be in the 130 MPH Club in ther Audi A5, BMW 525 and a Shelby 350. They all ran for two days in good weather and their Top Speeds were, 116, 112, 118 and their was a 125 MPH from the Shelby. I don?t want to make a big deal about this and spend a lot of money to fail. This will definitely be my only chance to try this. Is running for class records with the ECTA in Arkansas very much like ruining the Ohio Mile?
I need advice guys.
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GP, the 130 Club at WoS is not an easy thing.... Lots of folks find that out. You need a car capable of at least 140 IMHO. The salt is traction limited... and just because you can do 130+ on pavement does not mean it will happen in the mile on the salt.
But everyone goes racing with the expectation they will win... why else would you do it... OH yea... because it is fun to go fast. Take it to the pavement and play, take it to the salt and play.... Have fun... be safe...
Go fast :cheers:
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In 2003 I was well into my lakester build,but was anxious to get on the salt. I read about the 130 club and decided to take my all wheel drive S10 pickup to WOS. Yes AWD, and ran high 12's at 105 in quarter. I could spray down the pavement along side my shop and stall the converter to 3500 and floor it and NOT spin the tires. I was pitted next to a Chevelle with a big block and the guy proclaimed it would be easy running 130 as he ran 125 in the 1/4. He was ahead of me in line so I watched as he fish tailed and spun the tires down the track to a 115 mph run.Long story short I made two runs with O tire spin, yes O, and averaged 133 and was first truck in 130 club. Only one person came up to me and recognized it was base on an 1982 S10 4x4 PU. He saw me take off from the start line on my second run when my employee was recording my run and I did the stall to 3500 trip and the truck lifted the front bumper about 3 " under acceleration. The engine was a mild 350 hp 355 inch SBC. I have actually owned the very Crown Vic you describe, also Modified my Mustang with the 2 valve 4.6 and I do not believe you'll make the cub. I own the ultimate 130 club car. 2013 Chevy Caprice PPV. 355hp LS# w/6 speed and traction control. Tested to over 170mph by police agency's and only vehicle most will use to chase motor cycle with. I'm only asking $ 6800 for mine and it only has 60k on it. I know that is much more then you paid for your crown Vic but if you buy one right you'll get all your money back and maybe more if you show the buyer your 130MPH club certificate. :-D
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Racergeo,
I remember talking to you when you did the 130 club in your little truck.
All wheel drive transfercase swapped for the 4-wheel drive transfercase.
(poormans Cyclone) :cheers:
Don
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Garrell, pm sent.
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Don, thank you for posting and collaborating my story. I sure wish I would have had a better idea of how destructive the salt was as the S10 is destroyed from that little adventure.