Landracing Forum
Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => World of Speed-specific stuff => Topic started by: GW on September 14, 2019, 07:14:12 AM
-
To all mankind:
I'm on the salt and will post information in this thread as I can; others are welcome to post here as well.
We thank Monte and the team, and wish all racers safe and fast passage.
GW
-
Thanks. IF you take and can post pics -- great. If you take pics and don't have time/method to easily post them - send 'em to me and I'll put them on the Forum for you. Email them to me, k? Use the address shown at the left of my posts - it's the right one. Thanks and have fun.
-
Sorry folks for the lack of postings... been mostly on the salt today, and when off the salt the audio has been news reels (i.e., no vehicles).
GW
-
Waiting for course to open after incident. DRM lakester, Strasburg lakester, Knapp streamliner and many others in line. Carbiliner and Target 550 in pits. Woz
-
Strasburg licensing pass.
Knapp turnout.
-
Sicilio Daytona crashed. Details unknown. Heard that he was alert and responsive when placed in the ambulance.
-
Doug Adler VW diesel streamliner 253
-
Beamco streamliner (formerly Vesco 444) 305 w/314 exit.
-
Lockhart twin-engine streamliner turnout.
-
RWS streamliner start line issue, attempt push start, won't start, turnout.
-
DRM lakester pulled chutes in final mile.
-
Carbiliner shutdown.
-
GW thank YOU very very much for doing these updates !
-
3558 Red Rocket Racing 204.
-
Regarding the Sicilio Daytona incident; just heard that it spun then flipped. No other details.
-
501 C/AIR check run.
-
UVU El Camino pulled chutes.
-
896 USFRA club car 131.
-
1103 Monte Carlo shutdown.
-
894 Mustang 164.
-
Strasburg 301 qtr, 310 mile 1, 331 mile 2, 342 mile 3, 346 exit.
-
590 Roadster 229 qtr, 238 mile 1, 252 mile 2, 257 mile 3.
-
Beamco Special streamliner (formerly Vesco Little Giant) 244 qtr, 256 mile 1, 288 mile 2, 306 mile 3.
-
Day 2 is a wrap and the long course is now closed.
Will resume tomorrow.
Peace out.
GW
-
Thank you very much. I wish I'd been there to hear the Strasburg car run - such a great sound... :clap :cheers: :clap :cheers: Freddie's car is a great listen, too.
-
Regarding the Strasburg 340 plus run, 99% sure they said that was with no nitrous. It does have a special sound! Woz
-
Heard the course was shutdown for a while due to an incident. Is Lee Ok? Any word on what happened?
-
What I heard - none of which came from anybody in an official capacity - was that the car spun, then flipped and flew for a considerable distance. Pieces were scattered over a wide area, but the driver's compartment was more or less intact. Although they had to cut him out of it, Lee supposedly sustained no major injuries. We all certainly hope that the last part of the preceding is accurate!
Jeff from Boise
-
Strasburg: No nitrous, no nitro -- great sound comes from the zoomies no matter what. :clap :clap
-
Good morning world.
Another salt flats sunrise; red at the horizon, stars overhead, and the colors of the rainbow are between the two.
No clouds, no wind.
I'll post a Sunday morning impound update once the teams awaken.
GW
-
GW, are you running anything?
Wayno
-
Nope, I'm still in the dreaming stage. I need to up my game and take the plunge.
GW
-
Sunday morning impound:
6556 D/DS
1326 G/BGRMR
5005 B/BGMR
711 AA/BSTR
246 XF/BFMR
7859 XO/BFR
6797 J/MGT
9278 G/CBGALT
590 B/BFMR
1844 F/BGRMR
And a few trailers not yet open.
-
7:15 AM: A bit breezy now... no wind speed report but pit flags are waiving.
-
GW, how would I find you?
Wayno
-
Wayno - finding me is easy... I'm the guy in long pants, long sleeves, hat, and sunglasses. I'm a wanderer so I split my time between the pits, long course 3 mile, long course start, and short course start.
GW
-
Carbiliner update - replacing a crank sensor and then hoping to unleash the fury.
-
Great where are you now?
-
any target 550 updates ?
-
Wayno - long course record runs, just beyond mile 3, black Jeep.
-
Target 550 - saw them loading up yesterday.
-
Starting line for me.
-
Adler diesel streamliner 184 sets record approx 218 avg.
-
#711 roadster 265 mph sounding very stout. Sets record at 257 plus.
-
Cool about the Adler Diesel -- sounds like a red hat for Jeff! 218 on a 210 record. Corngratulations!! :clap :cheers: :clap :cheers:
-
Empire Special roadster B/BGMR 278 plus
-
Cool about the Adler Diesel -- sounds like a red hat for Jeff! 218 on a 210 record. Corngratulations!! :clap :cheers: :clap :cheers:
Jeff?? Who's driving today?
Shame this vehicle never seems to run very well in the early morning. :evil: Otherwise the record would be much faster - 250+, maybe pushing 275 or even 300mph. :roll:
-
Salty Box, DRM lakester, Strasburg, Ford RWS A/FS all in line.
-
Carbiliner just pulled in staging lanes.
-
Heard Salty Box Dodge lost driveshaft. Sweeping course.
-
Cool about the Adler Diesel -- sounds like a red hat for Jeff! 218 on a 210 record. Corngratulations!! :clap :cheers: :clap :cheers:
Jeff?? Who's driving today?
Shame this vehicle never seems to run very well in the early morning. :evil: Otherwise the record would be much faster - 250+, maybe pushing 275 or even 300mph. :roll:
How fast has it gone in the afternoon?
-
DRM lakester chutes out. Sounded tremendous at starting line.
-
Strasburg 340.
-
Cool about the Adler Diesel -- sounds like a red hat for Jeff! 218 on a 210 record. Corngratulations!! :clap :cheers: :clap :cheers:
Jeff?? Who's driving today?
Shame this vehicle never seems to run very well in the early morning. :evil: Otherwise the record would be much faster - 250+, maybe pushing 275 or even 300mph. :roll:
How fast has it gone in the afternoon?
Was yesterday's 253 the fastest yet? There have been a few runs in the 225-235mph range (in previous years).
Viewed from afar it looks like the vehicle has a fair bit left in it.
-
Ford fuel streamliner pulled off.
-
Carbiliner team beginning to unload car off trailer.
-
any speed numbers on DRM lakester
-
Carbiliner pulled off immediately.
-
I believe DRM right around 300 shut off last mile. Anybody verify that?
-
Strasburg lakester back in line. Carbiliner being brought back to starting line!
-
Carbiliner diagnosis: didn't open CO2 so couldn't shift... back at the start line for another attempt.
-
Carbiliner 392 then crash; no details.
-
Carbiliner incident at very high speed.
-
After 2-ish hours, course officials are getting back into position.
No Carbiliner info.
-
UVU El Camino shooting ducks / turn out.
-
2021 lakester coasting through.
-
501 C/AIR licensing pass.
-
924 D/FMP 151.
-
Strasburg 302 qtr, 312 mile 1, 336 mile 2, 347 mile 3.
-
Goodrich Camaro 195 qtr, 205 mile 1, 224 mile 2, 230 mile 3.
-
3461 Karmann Ghia 161.
-
Statement from Carbiliner crew: Rob is alive and being evaluated at the hospital.
-
315 F/BGS 231 qtr, 234 mile 1, shut off.
-
I have seen and heard a lot of great things on the salt, but the sound of the Strasburg lakester coming by mile 3 at full power is very high on the list.
-
Beamco streamliner 252 qtr, 265 mile 1, 295 mile 2, 311 mile 3.
-
134 orange 3WC 176 qtr, 180 mile 1, 194 mile 2, 188 mile 3.
-
Lookie Jeff's new hat! (Jeff a/k/a Trimmers).
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bonneville%20in%20general/IMG_1192_zpsgsrrhkua.jpg) (https://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/Bonneville%20in%20general/IMG_1192_zpsgsrrhkua.jpg.html) :cheers: :clap :-D
-
what was he driving :clap
-
1148 twin-engine streamliner 190 qtr, 178 mile 1, then chutes.
-
984 lakester 185 qtr, then chutes.
-
Jeff was at the helm of the D/DS -- 6556, I think is the number.
-
The word is that today's qualifiers can do record runs at 5:00 PM today (weather forecast for tomorrow is for high winds).
-
Knapp AA/BFS 313 qtr then slowed.
-
USFRA has been good with return runs earlier than "normal" for weather and so on. :cheers: :cheers:
-
GW, thanks for the updates!
-
Strasburg lakester 342
-
They were looking for 349.
-
#221 fuel lakester Liberty Garage running on 223 record. Turned out middle mile.
-
This just posted on a local news outlet:
WENDOVER ? A Bonneville Speed Week racer has been airlifted from the Salt Flats Race Track after he was involved in a wreck at over 350 mph on Sunday.
Wendover police officer Nic Francis said the man was racing in an aeronautical, a low friction, high-speed vehicle, when the crash occurred. The man was airlifted from the scene in an AirMed helicopter.
Hopes and prayers for a good outcome.
RCKirby
-
Sunday after noon impound update:
125 AA/BF/CC
181 I/CFALT
3261 G/BFRMR
325 D/GS
673 AA/PRO
7134 1000 A-VG
-
4661 F/BFCC 182 qtr, 186 mile 1, 194 mile 2, 192 mile 3.
-
From the Carbiliner Facebook page just now:
Update: CT scan was ?relatively? good, no major bleeding or swelling... "TBI" he is very sleepy but responds to touch and pain but not auditory commands. Some facial fractures, but they are of lesser concern. Great team monitoring his status here at University of Utah Hospital.
-
Yikes - TBI can go either way, so all thoughts are for a complete recovery.
-
181 record run, 2-cyl VW, 91 qtr, 91 mile 1.
-
9275 record run, Saab, 157 qtr, 161 mile 1.
-
924 record run, Beautiful Noise pickup, 147 qtr, 149 mile 1.
-
Beamco record run, formerly Little Giant, couldn't hear the qtr or mile 1, 293 mile 2, 314 mile 3, 320 exit.
-
Twin-Triumph record run, 115 qtr, then slowed.
-
What class was Beautiful Noise pickup running? Great coverage, thank you!
-
673 record run, Camaro, 224 qtr, 231 mile 1, 247 mile 2, 251 mile 3.
-
Beautiful Noise ran in D/FMP.
-
826 record run, lakester, 198 qtr, 202 mile 1, 209 mile 2.
-
Trackmaster record run, 244 qtr, 256 mile 1, chutes out.
-
UVU El Camino bonus pass (not a record run), 186 qtr, 191 mile 1, chutes out.
-
And that's a wrap for Sunday.
Tomorrow I fly home to reality.
I hope to see y'all at WoS 2020.
GW signing out.
-
Thanks GW. Job well done! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
-
What Pete said! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
-
What they all said... great job and thanks...
-
And a new C/GR record of 255 and change,had an exit speed of 259.Holy sh....,yes,a C/GR!!!! :?
-
From the Carbiliner Facebook page just now:
Update: CT scan was ?relatively? good, no major bleeding or swelling... "TBI" he is very sleepy but responds to touch and pain but not auditory commands. Some facial fractures, but they are of lesser concern. Great team monitoring his status here at University of Utah Hospital.
Holy crap, sorry to hear about Rob! Is there any update?
Sid.
-
posted out on Carbinite LSR:
Updates on Rob will come out as we get them for now we ask for continued prayer for his recovery.
I also have to give a big thank you to the USFRA and it's crew. In a traumatic experience they went well beyond being course stewards and starters. My interactions with them today created a lasting impression. I can't thank them enough for their support and help both professionally and personally.
Also to the governing bodies that put safety rules in place. The wreck was massive and the forces were unbelievable. The car all but disintegrated from the impact yet the cockpit is almost undamaged. Rob was 100% contained in that cockpit. Amazingly, he suffered no broken bones and is in pretty good physical condition which is astounding.
Please continue to pray for Rob's recovery as we get through the next few days, it will be appreciated.
-
Praying for you Rob, your family and the team. May God Bless and heal you.🙏🙏🙏✝✝✝✝
-
From Carbinite LSR: (and posted about 8:30PM PST)
We visited Rob in his room, arms & legs in great condition! Thanks for your support!
-
From Carbinite LSR: (and posted about 8:30PM PST)
We visited Rob in his room, arms & legs in great condition! Thanks for your support!
That's good news, hope everything else is alright after being banged around at that high speed.
Get well Rob we're all pulling for you.
Langlo Racing Team
-
Gregg Adams commented on a FB post;
I heard Glen announce on CB that he was 391 in the last mile and then milliseconds later yelled "crash". Brandon posted he was over 400 on the exit speed.
-
Rob ran 391 in the middle mile and crashed at the 4 1/4.
-
Really sad. The Carbiliner was such a marvel of ingeniuity, and the build quality was top notch.
Wonder what happened. Wishing Rob a full and speedy recovery.
-
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your team.
BC Racing
-
This was posted on their FB page and hour ago;
This post is from Sue, Rob?s wife. I would first like to thank everyone for their prayers and well wishes. And very special thanks to the safety team, first responders, and the whole team at the hospital.
We all know the dangerous nature of this sport. Rob has always been obsessed with going fast. He has a brilliant mind and persevering nature. While the project never had my full blessing because of the risk of something like this happening, I could not force him to give up his dream either. The team did get it right when designing the car for safety. He would not be alive if the car didn?t do exactly what it was designed to do.
Right now, we are in a holding pattern of waiting. He does have a serious head injury. He is sedated, in ICU, with lots of tubes and monitors and frequent testing. He is on a breathing machine. He does respond to pain and his pupils are reacting. Some positives but he is definitely not out of the woods yet. We have a lot of questions that will take time to answer. God is sovereign and has this under control. More than anything, Rob desired to glorify God in his life. I don?t know why this happened this way, or what the outcome will be. Please continue to pray and we will update when possible.
-
I've just opened a topic about Rob in the Health and Welfare section of the Forum. Post your stuff wherever you want -- but at least now there's a place where we can be focused on him and his recovery.
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=17897.msg326242#new
-
Hard to imagine the Carbiliner is no more for me it was certainly an engineering marvel. Thank god Rob survived prayers for a full recovery and future projects we can all marvel at. Would anyone have the results from Sundays back up runs interested in car 246 XF/BFMR
Ronnieroadster
-
Just got home from the WOS, what a great meet! The USFR people did their usual great job and made everyone really feel great. I was heart broken at Rob's crash as I have known him since he and Brandon first started to conceive their car. Visited their shop several times during the design and construction of the car and my personal belief was that the car really did have the potentJial to be the first car over 500 with a recip motor. Probably never know now. Great to hear that Rob is all in one part and is starting his long recovery I know we will all keep him in our thoughts and prayers.
Duke and I had a couple of initial "challenges" (self inflected) but got past them and ran a best ever of 195.75 so we still have about 25 mph to find so Stainless and the Bockscar boys won't be loosing any sleep over losing one of their many records, to us anyway! Duke and I really have a great time working together and he had his "sweet heart" Olivia with him and she was our official good luck lady!
A comment on the Strasburg lakester and their lady driver. She absolutely knows what the pedal on the right side does!!! She was so much fun to watch, after her last run they came back with some pretty shredded tires and it was not hard to see or hear why!
Again hats off to the USFRA and their great people.
Rex and Duke 984 I/FL
-
Rex:
Now that we have several 400+ mph cars competing and not so perfect surface conditions, tires, once again, are becoming a problem. Reaching 500 mph may not be as hard for the cars to accomplish than keeping tires in one piece. With declining distance, lighter cars will have to be built if for no other reason than to lessen tire loads. Not likely we will see any upgrade to 600 mph rated tires.
John
-
This just posted on a local news outlet:
WENDOVER ? A Bonneville Speed Week racer has been airlifted from the Salt Flats Race Track after he was involved in a wreck at over 350 mph on Sunday.
Wendover police officer Nic Francis said the man was racing in an aeronautical, a low friction, high-speed vehicle, when the crash occurred. The man was airlifted from the scene in an AirMed helicopter.
Hopes and prayers for a good outcome.
RCKirby
I saw that article and wondered how they came up with that description.
-
My thoughts and prayers are with Rob and his family.
Any word on Lee Sicilio (spelling?) I understand he is recovering from a wreck in the 97. Praying for a full and quick recovery for both.
BR
-
Does anyone know why Target 550 did not run?
-
Target 550 DID run. Valerie was close to 300 when the rough course orchestrated damage to the car including both engines.
-
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71501260_2701517453214879_51423218233245696_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQl70BcpajBGqdwm0rml5UTUUbNVrbSUm81gsaEadOczEODar6GFgdgdUQSNGeHWsAU&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=8696fa28cdcb7800b663f6e63c04565f&oe=5E3B136F)
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70196330_2701517279881563_8100362801916149760_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQmz5Nj0-EJ6dQfzNLK2Rt3l97eTZ2keY81vZck7DsJwHHa6zmtxLkAGgR3aJrHzME4&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=d5541bc81553e4fabb677190fb38ce6a&oe=5E0B93B6)
-
Like I said. . . Thanks, Justin.
-
I was in the pits when Valerie made her final pass and she was not afraid to give it some pedal but being that the car has no suspension and a pretty long wheel base the engines were surging as the car was bouncing over the somewhat rough course. My bet is that the traction surges were making the load on the engines vary quite alot and the rods decided they wanted some fresh air. Project is still in the development stages.
Rex
-
What was the final word on salt conditions on the long course?
Bumpy, Slippery, (specifically where?) WF is coming up!
-
I drove the first three miles
Crap until 2 1/4
My van was hard to contol at 60
"Better" after there
Stewards were warning drivers about conditions after the 4
I ran the short course
Sam
#6062
-
Long course conditions vary greatly depending on the vehicle. Some made good use of it, some struggled. Chet's roadster put up some big numbers, the Strasburg lakester, made passes over three hundred and chewed up the rear tires approaching 350. There was traction to be had.
From the starting line to the two, there is loose salt on top, but hard pack underneath. It looks bad but provided decent traction. From the two to the three and a quarter, it is hard and smooth. From the three and a quarter to the five and a quarter, it is hard and bumpy. From the five and a quarter to the seven, the salt is very thin with mud patches showing all over. It does provide a usable run out area.
That is my assessment, hope it helps someone.
-
Long course conditions vary greatly depending on the vehicle. Some made good use of it, some struggled. Chet's roadster put up some big numbers, the Strasburg lakester, made passes over three hundred and chewed up the rear tires approaching 350. There was traction to be had.
From the starting line to the two, there is loose salt on top, but hard pack underneath. It looks bad but provided decent traction. From the two to the three and a quarter, it is hard and smooth. From the three and a quarter to the five and a quarter, it is hard and bumpy. From the five and a quarter to the seven, the salt is very thin with mud patches showing all over. It does provide a usable run out area.
That is my assessment, hope it helps someone.
Loose on top but hard packed underneath good grief kind of reminds me of August maybe a touch looser then but still not good the way I see it. In the area most need to put the power down your back pedaling whats the point I ask!
-
Long course conditions vary greatly depending on the vehicle. Some made good use of it, some struggled. Chet's roadster put up some big numbers, the Strasburg lakester, made passes over three hundred and chewed up the rear tires approaching 350. There was traction to be had.
From the starting line to the two, there is loose salt on top, but hard pack underneath. It looks bad but provided decent traction. From the two to the three and a quarter, it is hard and smooth. From the three and a quarter to the five and a quarter, it is hard and bumpy. From the five and a quarter to the seven, the salt is very thin with mud patches showing all over. It does provide a usable run out area.
That is my assessment, hope it helps someone.
I made a couple runs of 250+,one to the 5, You could really put down the power 3-4. 4-5 rough 5-6 shut down was an adventure. Glad I had "mechanics hands" to hang on to the wheel since my car is un-sprung :-o. Also glad I have some Elmo experience trying to find traction.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nq9R35Pi3PN588Nh8?fbclid=IwAR1s1nwUyN0tCcMWZEo-K61-PpNv2CrQZv7SyTg_ntjlrGEqIH9a6gTxsio
-
Wondering when USFRA is going to post anything past Saturday?
-
I'm anxious to see 'em, too!
Jeff in Boise
-
Sunday's runs are posted on saltflats.com now. Not sure when Monday's will be posted.
Ellen and Gary got home late yesterday. It takes time to unpack and get things organized.
-
Were there any runs on the Monday?
It looks like the USFRA have updated their web site with a final 'Thank you' message, but nothing for Monday 9-16-19 (either long or short course).
-
Yes, there were definitely a few runs Monday morning, including at least one car (6556) which qualified, and went to impound. However, they elected not to make a return run. I left around 11:00 am, and I believe the meet wasn't scheduled to conclude until 2:00 pm.
Jeff in Boise