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Title: BMST 2019
Post by: gowing on August 22, 2019, 01:16:08 PM
BMST is set to start in 2 days.......... not any chatter at all.
What's up with that? nobody going?
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: drc42 on August 22, 2019, 11:23:03 PM
Hopefully everyone is just too busy getting ready to keep up here.  I will be there!  Excited for my first time on the salt.

Any other first timers here?
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: TerBer on August 23, 2019, 02:59:25 AM
I'll be a first-timer, if I can get my bike back together! Sure wish I could talk to somebody about the Run what you brung rules.
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: Stainless1 on August 23, 2019, 09:56:08 AM
They are online... they are different than the LSR rules... Most folks ride in for that class, it gives first timers a chance to ride the salt without all the LSR requirements. 
It's like the USFRA's 130 club at the bike meet. 
Have fun... be safe... don't  muutt
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: TerBer on August 23, 2019, 10:46:12 AM
Finishing up today and leaving tonight.  I really hope I don't need a steering damper or deadman lanyard!
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: handyguy on August 23, 2019, 02:06:54 PM
Have a great time , BEST OF from Tucson Salt FANS ..   STEVE
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 26, 2019, 01:10:31 AM
Is there any info about watch is happening at BMST?
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: TrickyDicky on August 27, 2019, 08:59:42 AM
Words and pictures from Jean Turner are on the FIM web site.

http://www.fim-live.com/en/article/first-records-claimed-at-2019-bmst-on-day-2/

Several records, including Erin Sills. :clap

Hiro Koiso OK after a 200+mph crash.  muutt
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 27, 2019, 07:41:00 PM
Thanks for posting that link.
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: drc42 on August 27, 2019, 10:19:14 PM
Here are the AMA records as of earlier today.  I am happy to have the 250 M-CF record on my first time out! (even if it is slower than I hoped for).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kXoqoT-Sm5POihMq4CmBwnLiPIDfXhaD8YcVyk4WMA7eD21sw9ScPDX7jdJHo8ozmM0C-iw7lSwipdMZOQLI-cVHFwZS49fi7ObAKqJaz3gPGha1KMZVNQBCYCrzt3UDg1b6sz9AhtTwQtu4XN0qQMrZljFyTgLrLke2HpVIsL-c_dq00729udow2aiQTJBZmIBJeBSmYjzmuL7n2faY81Pn0VF3ZPC2uIAbRXtvFAw1wv79UeowWXbJ8kvqc3FOZ1k-jD8iNx2bKnKqra-QN6gP3YNw8Akvr7a5tCU0_PfTpXFfcCo0oaHDwqWsbLphL-hQ7TCjzxnhQFHe3ukylUoXrMLtR6nM3k8Cv1pWLDe79BRu9diek7ltJkKq6BH5rd1v54BXstJ2ZGJF5ka7hL4NxI7HSjxBOZ74CKFIGP-YPpilnN1jPGAhHdbQqyfzvyMvGpuno0wPDAWLDCE8Hnqy4fptWQhE83or-STIwwS2iIAficdLZ3pYzRVF0DXBxEbEU0ITikcsoxtJ_aXtMZEzynkGTztwi94qljxh7BJuSosFm9Ii0duWJDPaM4kGXStZwQ_oU_7Zeq6LDBfT1Q1FJ_qBnLlmzCuAfQfYs0bjsWUXb7sMznNYvB1UIEpNzSnTL52d5Epsk8TmEFelrEFMsrH80JY=w822-h616-no)
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: manta22 on August 27, 2019, 10:21:00 PM
What was the salt surface like? Good? Bad?

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 28, 2019, 12:20:53 AM
Take a look at the speeds.  Ralph Hudson went 240 or so, Al Lamb about the same earlier (sorry - don't have the numbers in front of me - hope I'm not too wrong).  If those guys are running below 250 - the track ain't great.
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: drc42 on August 28, 2019, 01:11:32 AM
For the long course they only managed a 7 mile instead of a 9.  I suspect that is the big difference for the fast guys.

I am a newbie here so can't compare personally but sounds like MUCH better than a couple weeks ago at speed week (been hot and dry every day since then).
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: sabat on August 28, 2019, 09:44:48 AM
Take a look at the speeds.  Ralph Hudson went 240 or so, Al Lamb about the same earlier (sorry - don't have the numbers in front of me - hope I'm not too wrong).  If those guys are running below 250 - the track ain't great.

Here's a first-hand account from the FIM article listed above:

Ralph Hudson had a scary moment when he got some bad headshake at over 200 mph (321 km/h), but he backed off and kept it safe during his run. He made some chassis changes and returned to the course to record a speed of 233.559 mph (375.877 km/h). Not enough for a FIM Land Speed World Record, though he did reach an AMA record today.

"I think that's good enough. I had high hopes that we were going to be able to chase the 300 record here, but the conditions just don't allow it," said Hudson. "I talked to Al Lamb and he said he was having the same handling issues I was, that the front end kinda pushes and it doesn't go where you put it. [laughs] It needs to be a harder surface. It's much better than it was two weeks ago, but it's still not what we need.

"I think I've probably done enough. So, I think I'm just going to be satisfied and go home happy."
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: Stainless1 on August 28, 2019, 09:58:17 AM
Without question the salt is better than Speedweek, it would be based on the weather conditions since.  But it is still a bit soft and squishy, that is why they are having handling issues.  If conditions persist the salt will continue to improve as the mud under it starts to dry.... the caveat... unless the mud dries unevenly then we get the roughness of 16-17...
Just my opinion, not necessarily that of the staff and management of the Salt  :dhorse:

Stay safe out there guys, have fun and go fast
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: Doc B. on August 31, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
I only ran the short course at a low speed, but I found it to be quite good if a wee bit soft and slightly rutted. My bike has a suspension and I didn't really notice the ruts much. Not sure what the rigid frame guys thought. I guess the long course got pretty squishy starting at about the timed mile exit. Hiro Koiso hit a rut the first day and went down at about 200. Got busted up pretty good, broken hand and a shoulder injury.

The course improved every day and by the last day Erin Sills got a record, as did the Mobitech team with their electric APS bike. There were quite a few other records too. With a little luck and no rain it could be very nice conditions for WOS.
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: Chris V on August 31, 2019, 11:58:43 AM
What Doc B said, I did multiple 108's matching last years personal best  :clap when the salt was much better last year, to bad the fast guy's coud'nt do better because of conditions
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: Doc B. on September 01, 2019, 02:08:20 AM
Hi Chris, great to hang out with you this year. If my record had to be bumped this year I'm glad you are the guy who did it!
Title: Re: BMST 2019
Post by: **RP** on September 03, 2019, 10:37:46 AM
Pending record are posted on the BMST website results page.  Congrats to 'em all!