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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => SpeedWeek 2019 => Topic started by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 07, 2019, 10:37:00 AM
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Howdy, racers and everybody. Now we've got a place for the current years' talk.
Let me start by asking if there's anything new in the yearly chase for lodging. A guy up here wants to attend SW and I just haven't heard anything. What's the story?
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I tried to book rooms over last weekend. They said they could not release them yet!! When will the do that??
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when they all get together and decide what to charge :-D
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I was contacted by Dora @ The 6, gave her my requirements in return email... no confirmation back yet, but I expect 115 &116 as usual...
See ya on the salt 8-) :cheers:
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I made reservations at the Red Garter earlier this week.
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I received this tonight.
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Rooms booked at Peppermill!
:cheers:
Steve
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Room booked at the Quality Inn. Now if I can only get the pickup ready in time?!?!?
:cheers:
Trevor
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Booked at the Red Garter :cheers:
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I might start a sub-thread for this, but first:
There's a good chance that Nancy can't attend SpeedWeek this year thanks to her new job. And that means that I need help if we're going to have a Salt Talks. Anybody want to step up and do lots of work?
There's quite a bit to do, so please ask me for details before you sign up. I'd sure like to host the event as usual, but I can't do it without help.
Salt Talks is the land speed racer gathering that Landracing.com has put on damn near every year for nearly 20 years. It's a burgers, chips, and pop, and BYOB chairs and beer, and join us after racing ends Sunday, 11 August.
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Jon, if Gus and I make it to Speedweek, you can count on us.
It all depends on Sandra's recovery.
Don
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Rooms booked at Montego Bay and just licked the stamp on my SW entry! :cheers:
Rick
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News Flash - the storied Darbyshire & Anderson land speed racing team has finally selected/contracted a hired gun to ride the 639 Ducati 1350 P-P. This will be none other than the site administrator, the gent (?) we know as Seldom Seen Slim (known to many government agencies under his alias Jon). Contract details are of course confidential but all concerned are praying this will not end badly. Bill and I will also be running Bill's Weslake-powered sidecar rig. Be sure to wander by our pit if you are attending Speed Week 2019 - SSS might be signing autographs from time to time.
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Oh, Gee-ZUS! :roll: :roll:
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I received this tonight.
See Slim's post of March 11.
And how am I supposed to "enter" when they haven't even come up with an entry code and a verified class numbering scheme for the new modified GT class - and the rule books won't be shipped until late April?
Already contacted JoAnn . . . :roll:
They were in this all-fired ram-it-down-their-throats hurry to push the change - and now they're sitting on their hands.
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Midget... this is easy... just enter it as anything... AA blown Fuel Streamliner if you'd like... then change the paperwork when you get there
Easy peasy :cheers:
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Midget... this is easy... just enter it as anything... AA blown Fuel Streamliner if you'd like... then change the paperwork when you get there
Easy peasy :cheers:
Then Stan Back puts a picture of the Midget on the same page as the Thompson Streamliner?
:-o
Wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of punching above my weight! :-D
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Does this help?
The old ones stay the same.
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Well my suggestion would have made you one of the first pictures in the book :roll: but that damn Stan came to the rescue for the program's integrity....
:cheers:
I personally will use a picture of the old car with my entry :-D
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Tried to book a room for speed week and everyone is full. Even tried for just 3 days.
Looks like camping at the bend until some rooms open up. hopefully by Monday.
JL222
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:cheers: Stop at the Bend and have one with us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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After our first visit in 2013 followed by two years of washouts and then trips round Canada, we're coming back for 2019! In a rental RV again so more than likely will pitch up in a casino car park or on the bend for a night, as KOA and Nugget don't like to answer emails about bookings. Staying for 3 nights, so hope to see some good safe racing and enjoy a few cold ones.
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:cheers: Stop at the Bend and have one with us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OR two :-D :cheers:
JL222
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"Stop at the Bend and have one with us!"
The bends?
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Tried to book a room for speed week and everyone is full. Even tried for just 3 days.
Looks like camping at the bend until some rooms open up. hopefully by Monday.
JL222
Tried the hotel numbers in rule book and got reservations at the Nugget 8-)
JL222
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We got our KOA back in January, 3rd if I remember right, and then they were gone.
We will be out on the salt, selling in the Vendor Area, tired of fighting.
So Chick will start inspecting, I will set up sales and shoot, then Friday start selling.
This looks to be our last year of the calendar, we lost one of our major sellers, they have their own calendar now.
We are cutting back on the amount we print so what we have at Speed Week will be what we have.
We will start to take orders in July
Tony and Chick
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Does anyone know if there will be camping at the museum parking lot? Work travel moved so I'll be able to go to Speed Week this year.
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"This looks to be our last year of the calendar"
NO.........Say it isn't so!?!?!?!? :-o
I'll take 2, can I pick them up at Speed Week?
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Is anyone else having trouble with links to the SW entry forms and Membership forms through the SCTA-BNI website, or is it just me???
Steve.
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What trouble are you having? If you are trying to fill it out on line and then save it I could not get that to work.... but you can download fill it out and save...
It is getting a little late for the mail.... But not for email :cheers:
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Problem is I can't download it on any of the 3 browsers installed on my machine....
Steve.
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PM sent too big to attach here! :-P
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Speaking of SpeedWeek, follow this link to the USFRA radio announcer's info sheet and print a copy, please. Than fill it out and hand it to me or Ron (or even give it to registration of JoAnn and she'll get it to us).
If you've filled it out we'll have lots more to say about you and your race vehicle when you're at the line and making your runs and so on. Thanks.
http://www.saltflats.com/Forms/radio%20announcer.pdf
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What is BNI's current address?
On 4-15-19 I mailed my SW entry and my BNI checkes to
B.N.I.
PO# 10
Orosi, Ca 93647
This AM my envelope was back in my mail box with a yellow note from our USPS
Return to sender
temporarily away
unable to forward
Anyone have a clue as to what may be going on?
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The address is right.
They've received 430 others so far.
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Address is wrong.
Make checks payable to: BNI
Mail to Bonneville Nationals Inc.
P.O. Box 10
Orosi CA 93647
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So CA is down hiring illiterates for the US postal service :?
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So CA is down hiring illiterates for the US postal service :?
Reminds me of song.
Down On The Border it's out of order :-)
JL222
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So CA is down hiring illiterates for the US postal service :?
Sparky,
Actually that address is central California.
So Cal where I live is worse, always getting other peoples mail, street numbers are right just a different street. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Tom G.
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I'm pretty sure that most of the sorting is now done by machine.
Mike
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So CA is down hiring illiterates for the US postal service :?
It was probably snowing that day Sparky! :-D
The addressee is irrelevant - ZIP code [German invention] and address only.
I have a South Lebanon address and we are 3 miles south of Lebanon but NOT part of Lebanon!
Wanna guess what happens when the zip code is correct but it says Lebanon - I don't get paid!! :x :x :x
If the USPS really cared about their customers - UPS & Fedex would NOT exist.
I have the same theory about NAPA, Auto Zone, et al. :-D
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If it's any comfort our Canadian system and workers seem to operate in a very similar way. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Pete
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https://www.smithsfoodanddrug.com/topic/creditcardpolicy Check out the Smith's website: no more Visa credit cards at the grocery store...
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https://www.smithsfoodanddrug.com/topic/creditcardpolicy Check out the Smith's website: no more Visa credit cards at the grocery store...
Thanks for the heads up, Rex.
Don
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Sparky – It's being taken care of.
I still don't see where the address is wrong. The zip is rite, the town is speled rite – who knows. The SCTA and/or the BNI are the biggest accounts in metropolitan Orosi (both blocks).
Stan
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PRESS RELEASE
Team Vesco’s Turbinator II was inducted into the Dry Lakes Racing Hall of Fame on Saturday, May 4th. The induction ceremony was held at Mendenhall’s Museum in
Buellton, CA. Vesco’s Turbinator II and Danny Thompson’s Challenger 2 were on display together with the Gyronaut motorcycle streamliner in front of a large, very enthusiastic crowd.
Turbinator II and driver Dave Spangler had a very successful year of racing on the Bonneville Salt Flats in 2018. Team Vesco won the Hot Rod Magazine Top Time Trophy
at Speed Week. Turbinator II then set the fastest event record in SCTA’s 70-year history at 482.646 MPH in September. In October Spangler clocked a 493.037 MPH flying mile
with an exit speed of 503.332 MPH. Team Vesco became the first wheel driven car to break the 500 MPH barrier.
Rick Vesco, builder and owner of the car, has established the goal for 2019 to be an OFFICIAL RECORD over 500 MPH. An official record requires two one mile runs with
an average speed over 500 MPH.
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The pre- enrtry list should be coming out about now shouldn’t it?
:cheers:
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Pre-entry completed. Car number and entry confirmation received. Room booked at the Best Western Plus in Wendover.
Just need the salt to dry up and do the long drive.
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The pre- enrtry list should be coming out about now shouldn’t it?
:cheers:
Anybody seen it?
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I just noticed that SCTA has published the pre-entry list for SpeedWeek on their Facebook page. It's 10 or more pages - I won't try to put it here now. Maybe someone will send a link. . . 8-)
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http://nebula.wsimg.com/9371646ebf5cbf5cfb6c746d76ac3f24?AccessKeyId=1B489604A3781742F233&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
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Thanks, Jim - except I'm supposed to go to bed now and just spent minute after minute getting quizzical looks from Nancy as I worked my way through the list "just to see who's going to be there", I told her.
Okay, I'll look at the rest of the pages later. Thanks for the link.
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The above link is more direct but the facebook link is in the Bonneville contacts thread.
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Just found this quote from Third Century mystic Staanbak. It might be apropos of Bonneville . . .
"Man with two tarps is velly optimistic."
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Any live audio streamimg for 2019 speedweek?
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I sure hope so. New laptop so the usual hassles of getting audio into it, but otherwise -- yep!
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I'm at the 7 1/2 right now. The salt is firm and knobby (1" balls, if you will) and still a tad moist out here, but firm and DRY to about the 5, at least. Grand stuff -- and it's 89F an hazy sunny right now, so the salt oughta be cooking itself to a fine frenzy.
I'll post some pics soon.
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Back at the motel to unload and letcha know what's going on out at the salt. Here's what I saw today:
Geez, tourists -- mellow out a little. You are NOT required to mark your visit.
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Here are some pics showing the salt a few miles out. It's pretty firm everywhere, but still a tad moist beyond the five or so. In one pic you can see the markers for the lights at the end of the course -- I'm guessing that the location you see is at the six and those are just markers in case the course needs to be moved down a mile. The others show the texture of the salt and so on.
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Here's the course layout, sorta. The long course 1 mile is about 250 yards off/to the right of Land's End, with the Start being a mile back from there, sorta. The start is still a mile or so from where the course would intersect I-80. The Village/pits are at about the 3 mile and the pits end about the 4.
Courses 3 & 4 (well, short and rookie/short/short, and we don't have a second long or combo course this year) start with #3 just around the bend in the dike - maybe only a few hundred yards from the corner. The last course start line is a few hundred yards farther around the bend. Yes, there's going to be the long tow from the end of the short courses around the start line and then back to pits/impound, but as of now the salt is way better than a few years ago - you probably won't shake your false teeth loose while driving the return roads.
The speed limit is 45, kids, remember that. 45 on the paved road to Land's End, and 45 on the salt unless posted lower. Let's have a safe meet off the race track, too. Oh, yeah - gas is about $2.959 ++ here. So is diesel.
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thanks for the update Jon.
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Anybody familiar with a new HP laptop? I have one for streaming and it's Windows, of course, and I'm an Apple dude. I'd sure like some help figuring out how to get the audio (from the mixer) into the 'puter so I can stream. The HP websites and helpers are as useful as tits on a boar hog. HELP!
I'll be busy with toilets for a while today, but if you can help - give me a shout. 906 361 6 two 82. Thanks.
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Not going to be at Speedweek but, I will be listening to Slim's and Ron's live stream. You guys will make my work week great since I can't be on the Salt. :cheers:
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Relax those sphincters, kids -- Matt is on the job!! Here's the rookie course start line.
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Better put a lot of them there Jon, I know my rookie run had me looking for a potty FAST!! :-D :-D :cheers:
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4 at rookie course start, 6 + ADA (handicap unit) at short course start. It's less than a hundred yards from one to the other, too.
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Data: There's a Salt Cat towing vehicle stationed at Land's End today. He's there because he's already towed a number of folks outa the muck. Drive carefully.\
The truckstop at the interstate exit 4 raised the gas prices!!!! Yesterday at noon when I arrived it was $3/gallon or so, like most of the stations in town. As of this morning the truckstop is charging $3.999 (yeah, okay four bucks) a gallon. They didn't spike the diesel price, but they sure seem confident that they'll make out well with the new gasoline price.
Speed limits on Wendover/West Wendover's main drag has been increased to 35. It's been 25 for a long time.
Down past the Nugget's new RV parking area is a snack shop (where there used to be the dentist?). I just saw it last night - haven't gone to see what it is.
Smith's grocery store doesn't accept Visa credit cards any more.
It's been cloudy all day, with about 27 rain drops having fallen, but now - 2.50PM or so - the sun is coming out. The tracks are in good shape (well, the rookie course hasn't been dragged much yet but the others are fine).
I don't know what radio frequency we'll be broadcasting FM on so you can listen in your cars and the pits. We usually don't figure that out 'til Friday. 89.3, 89.7 -- Land's End Lynda will know once we decide.
Deep enough for now.
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I ate at the Rainbow and found these in the parking lot.
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Well...I will miss the salt season for another year....tough
For the speed community at the salt......stay safe, go fast, pick records.....and first of all.....have lots of fun
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Smith's grocery store doesn't accept Visa credit cards any more.
That's a "go figger" - usually it's the AMEX that gets refused - higher merchant fees.
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NO LIVE STREAMING!!!! That is, not 'til somebody that knows how to connect the audio from the mixer into the laptop finds me and helps me figure it out. This laptop is a brand new HP and wants a Windows user, not me the Apple guy, to use it.
HELP!!! I'll be on the salt in a little while, kinda hanging around the announcing trailer as it gets set up. Please come find me.
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I'm on the salt now - at the announce trailer. It was misting/light raining as I left town for out here. On the freeway it was wet. The rain had stopped by the time I was past the truckstop, but there are some folks parked inside the Bend in the Road that are probably gonna stay put for a few hours.
The salt is a tad sticky right now, but the rain has stopped - little of it that there was - and things'll tidy up soon, no doubt.
I haven't taken any pics this morning - will go cruise the pits to see who's here while I wait for my laptop wizard to appear. I hope.
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Thanks for the on-the-scene reporting Jon, good luck with the laptop hookup.
I just sent a little cash your way, took me 30 seconds with the Paypal button, good luck this week on the Production bike :cheers:
Dean
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Seen in town this morning -- a snazzy J/FS.
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Smith's grocery store doesn't accept Visa credit cards any more.
That's a "go figger" - usually it's the AMEX that gets refused - higher merchant fees.
Slim... are you sure it wasn't just your card they didn't want :evil:
better call Nancy to see if the paid the bill :cheers:
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Thanks, Dean. I appreciate the comments and support.
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Smarty pants. I used good ol' greenbacks to pay - they still accept that stuff.
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Smith's grocery store doesn't accept Visa credit cards any more.
That's a "go figger" - usually it's the AMEX that gets refused - higher merchant fees.
Smiths/Kroger are in a fight with Visa over fees. If your visa card is also a debit card you can still use it with a pin at Smiths
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Pit cruising takes too frickin' long when I have to get out of the truck and greet folks so much. Ain't it wonderful? Here's a bunch of "who's here" pics. It's still early - and the weather is cool and breezy west-to-east and cloudy.
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Marcia Buck Baker's hot rod -- it's first visit to the salt.
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Keith Turk is here, Marlo Treit is here, Melanie and George said hello, and so it goes. When will you get here?
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Jon, I wish I was (were?) there right now! Unfortunately that will happen next month at WoS.
Thank you for these photos!
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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We're having intermittent light sprinkles and 10-15 mph winds from the mountains to the freeway. :-(
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Does anybody know what hours the car show is on at the Nugget on Fri and Sat? Soooo excited for Speed Week! Hey Slim, I have a racing book for you!
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I'll bet Marcia never took the coupe out in winter because there was too much salt on the roads in Maine.
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The little streamliner is a slick deal...
Thanks for the images!
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thanx for the pics jon
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It's 3.15 and there's not much happening. Inspection is busy but lines are short. The 639 Ducati I'll be riding is in insp. right now, and the weather is - unh, kinda bland. The rain stopped and the clouds gave way to sun for a while but now we're back to heavy clouds and NE winds about 5-10MPH.
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Thanks for the updates Jon
Salt flat camera shows the line of vehicles entering the salt ,clouds on the mountains and no puddles , hope the weather holds out for everyone .
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It's 4.20 local time. Light but steady rain but we press on with setup. I'm waiting to see a race car go past me with the wipers going. WHOA! Big lightning flash.
Yep, the weather has gone sour for today.
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And now I'm in town. It was raining lightly but steadily for most of the past half hour/hour, and windy? Ron Christensen and I were at the radio trailer, trying to hold the door closed in the wind, when a gust blew the trailer hitch off the hunk of wood it was on. Yee-HaH!
As I left I shot 20 sec of video of the main road through the pits and posted it on my Facebook page. I won't put the video here, but it shows that the pits are not very hospitable right now.
The rain has now stopped and it's sunny at the Quality Inn. WTF? I won't post much more tonight, and tomorrow willhave the fun of seeing if I can make the audio get into the laptop.
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How about a link to that video, Jon?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Latest SCTA update.
Tom G.
SW 2019 Update #7 (8/8/19):
Inspection opened this morning and approximately 70 vehicles were inspected. The Blue Line was put down, comms put up, wire layed for clocks and the Timing Tower is up & running.And then we got hit by a brief squall with wind, rain & hail and there is a small amount of standing water. As of now, the Driver?s Meeting will still be Saturday at 9:00 a.m. We may post pone the start of racing a day or two, but better weather is expected from now on. At this time, we expect to still go racing.Gates open tomorrow @ 7:00 a.m. and Inspection & Registration opens at 9:00 a.m.
JUST A REMINDER, THE NEW SPEED LIMIT FOR THE ACCESS ROAD IS 45 MPH.
See ya on the salt!
Bill LattinSCTA President
Pat McDowellBNI Chairman
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New member here.
Hope this is in the right place.
I'm going out to spectate and camp. Can we have a fire pit at our camp at the bend?
I'm probably only going to be there Saturday and Sunday. Maybe be back again later in the week
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Plan on camping outside the bend -- inside is gooey mud just now... :roll: I don't know how the BLM feels about fires these days, but their bailiwick is only inside the Bend. Outside is state land - I do know I see fires in the evening.
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Can't y'alls dump a few dozen truck loads of tampons down the course to take care of that standing water? I'm only going to be there for the weekend. Sure hope it's not delayed for two days.
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I've put in a call for the tampon trucks for you, but bad news -- the reclaim vehicles aren't running so we can't try the soaker-uppers. Got another idea?
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I'm plumb out of ideas unfortunately. These nuggets of brilliance only come every so often you know...
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Go left at the bend up Leppy pass and there is plenty of dry mud free camping up the hill
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Ron is out on the salt right now and reports it's like walking on cottage cheese. Interesting description for sure, or maybe it's like mashed potatoes.
Whatever, here's where things stand now: Today will be what Friday oughta be - set up and inspection for racers. No changes. But as of now (at least) racing won't start for another day or two. The drivers meeting is still scheduled for Saturday morning - but probably no racing 'til Sunday or even Monday.
STAY OFF THE RACE COURSES if you're out there, got it?
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So if there's no racing on Sunday would there still be crews out on the salt preparing, or will there be no access? Just wondering where we should head to check out the motors as were arriving Saturday afternoon. I assume The Nugget hot rod meet will still be happening on Saturday evening, the wife does like a hot rod.
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Slim will you and Ron start streaming when racing begins Sunday or Monday?
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It's about 11.30 Friday morning. No racing for the time being. You're welcome to drive out here, but not on the courses. Come out to the pits and set up.
I assume the cars will be at the Nugget, but since it's pretty unofficial - I don't know if there's a schedule or if it's just "show up and park".
We probably will NOT stream until there's racing. The drivers meeting is on for tomorrow morning but since that's all the program content we'd have for the day -- we won't bother turning it on and then off. We're thinking of trying to record the meeting for later broadcast.
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Thank you for the updates! This is most helpful to those of us trying to figure out when to come to the flats! Wonder when the bend will dry up enough for a truck and toyhauler?
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The SCTA-BNI Facebook page now says "...officially delayed at least one day." But Driver's Meeting still on for 0900 Saturday.
Jeff from Boise
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Inside the bend - ah, I sure wouldn't go there for a few days.
Drivers meeting will NOT be at the start line like usual, but rather across the access road from the main pit entrance. The stand is being set up as I type.
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Maybe I've missed it but is there going to be a live stream for those of us stuck elsewhere this year? Had every intention of attending but back surgery has made other plans for me for the time being...
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I'll keep an eye on updates. We're getting the RV tomorrow so will be visiting The Nugget to see if there's any rods to check out. Not sure of where we'll pitch up, will keep away from the Bend in the rental. Fingers crossed for drying winds, think I saw radar of storms coming through this morning.
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We plan to stream the audio when we start racing, but we won't for tomorrow's only activity -- the drivers meeting at 9. We'll broadcast it locally on 89.3 FM - which is already running with some music.
Here's some of what's at the Nugget tonight.
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Hot rods in their natural environment: Salty from riding at Bonneville!!!
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It's 7.15. Drivers meeting is at 9. That's gonna be it for the day, dang it, but I'll send along anything that we learn at the meeting.
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Slim,
Thanks for the pics and updates. This is like being 6 years old and having Christmas postponed.
We?re waiting for you, Seldom seen Santa.
Tybeeman
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Slim,
Thanks for the pics and updates. This is like being 6 years old and having Christmas postponed.
We?re waiting for you, Seldom seen Santa.
Tybeeman
Actually, Slim gets more snow in the UP than Santa.
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Actually, Slim gets more snow in the UP than Santa.
Correct
North Pole AK about 58” avg
UP about 300”
Cottonwood canyons in UT broke 700” this season. It’s still melting up there!
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There were some photos of Fridays inspection on the SCTA-BNI website under 2019 results but the days won't open now...wonder what happened?
Never mind..found a lot on SCTA Facebook page..
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I don't do Facebook. What's the status for racing on Sunday or waiting untill Monday to start?
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At drivers meeting this morning it sounded like racing will most likely start Monday. It's still fairly soggy. I'm hoping we'll get more wind picking up to help dry things out.
-Tim
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Anyone have a motorcycle tire changer on the salt(or Wendover)?
Give me a call or text
608-345-2974
I?ve heard Al Lamb might have one but can?t find his pits.
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We have had tires changed at the truck stop , if you dont find that changer
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I called the Nugget they had rooms
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Slim, where is the update you promised. I'm not driving for 15hr. till I see your take on the situation. (and make it good) :wink:
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Okey-donkey. Here's the latest - a trip from which I returned about a half hour ago.
We still don't expect to race tomorrow - Sunday. Nobody is driving on the race course so I can't tell you what it's like out there, but my mosey down the pit access road showed it dryer now that it was this morning, and especially after about the 4 it's NICE. I heard some talk about the long course drying quickly - I have no real information.
The pits are definitely drier now than they were this morning. The underground river that crosses the access road (and heads out across the salt towards the freeway) ain't completely underground. PLEASE SLOW DOWN AS YOU CROSS IT! As I type I hear they're dumping salt on the crevasse trying to fill it.
Bench racing in the pits is above excellent today. Winds are favorable for no bugs and good drying, temps are in the high 70/low 80 range, and it's quiet so you can hear the others talking. Now you're sure -- they really have been spinning tales all along and you just couldn't hear them well enough to dispute 'em! :evil:
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Thanks Slim for the info we are leaving from Brewster Washington to morrow morning be there Monday
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Fixgeer, the shop I was talking about in Wendover is right across the street from the Copper Kettle restaurant. They looked open and busy when I drove past a little while ago.
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Slim, where is the update you promised. I'm not driving for 15hr. till I see your take on the situation. (and make it good) :wink:
It takes you 15 hours from Olympia, WA.? I live in Arlington, WA. and get there in 12hrs. You must have a small right foot?
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12W. Do the math. 863 miles 2-3 gas stops, bad back and siting is hell. A few walk abouts to keep from going to the E.R. Food. 300 runs over 240 in a TAD dragster and NHRA championship, red hat at 273.4 Maybe I do my racing on the track :angel:
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"Maybe I do my racing on the track" :angel:
:cheers:
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3am Sunday morning the wind has come big time! This should help considerably with the wet course.
Chris
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I friend of mine takes two days to get there from Oly. He takes his dogs and stops frequently for them and to stretch etc. He seems amazed that I drive straight through. I'm just not that comfortable pulling a trailer and going fast enough to keep up with traffic. Back in the 60's I made it from L.A. to Oly. in 15 hrs, or at least that was my claim. :laugh: Actually sorry I even posted, didn't think it was going to turn into a timed event :roll:
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I'm keeping my ears open for chatter on the radio about conditions on the course - but haven't heard much of anything. No racing today (Sunday), that's for sure. It's quite a bit drier on the access roads and stuff, but there ain't no news yet.
Stainless just moseyed in and out of the radio trailer and reminded me to tell youse guys that we'll have an unofficial Salt Talks at the Bend in the Road tonight. Bring your own everything (food, drinks, chairs) including your wallets to buy a shirt or three.
D A M N! Joe, the guy that owns the Ducati I WAS going to ride, just called to say he was headed home - figures the courses won't come around soon enough - he's gotta get to other stuff. SHOOT!!
I think I'll go sulk. :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
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The U of Utah Salt Flats Camera is pointed right at the pits. It is fun to watch the time-lapse movie of all the vehicles and people running around.
http://home.chpc.utah.edu/~u0553130/Camera_Display/bflat.html (http://home.chpc.utah.edu/~u0553130/Camera_Display/bflat.html)
Don
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Son of a GUN! I got a nice new laptop for streaming - and Microsoft has the H-P so tied up in software hassles - requiring me to join this, sign up for that, etc - that I can't get the new software to load, much less run. Apple is my next hope.
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It would be neat to have a flag or wind sock in the webcam view here.
http://home.chpc.utah.edu/~u0553130/Camera_Display/bflat.html (http://home.chpc.utah.edu/~u0553130/Camera_Display/bflat.html)
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I just found this from SCTA/BNI:
SCTA Southern California Timing Association
37 mins ?
SW 2019 Update #10 (8/11/19):
Tuesday at 7:30 a.m. we will start racing. There will be no Pre-Stage it is first come first serve and the number of courses for Tuesday will be determined. As of now, the long course is the only one ready. Anyone can run on the long course, but it will only be timed to the 4 mile and you must exit before the 6 mile. If you go past the six it is in bad shape. Short course vehicles must shut down at the 3 mile and the Rookie Course vehicles must shut down at the 2 mile. Rookie orientation is Tuesday at 8:00 a.m. at the Registration Trailer.
JUST A REMINDER, THE NEW SPEED LIMIT FOR THE ACCESS ROAD IS 45 MPH.
We will continue to post updates.
See ya on the salt!
Bill Lattin
SCTA President
Pat McDowell
BNI Chairman
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Hoping for at least 2 courses
....one course will be brutal with the waiting in line!
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Thanks for the updates. I guess I'll come over on Tuesday morning.
What do the shirts look like? Are they available on here or at least a picture of them?
:cheers:
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its 7:30 pm Sunday just checked the scta site, update # 10 , and says rookie orientation tomorrow ( Monday ) at 11:00 am -- tues. at 8:oo am -- wed-thurs. at 11:00 at the registration trailer , is this the latest for sure update for rookies ??? thanks
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Wanna, I don't have good copy of the art that's on the shirts, but I'll try to get someone to modelone tomorrow and take some pics, k?
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Mostly I'm hoping they are not white shirts. I ruin white shirts too fast to make them worth buying.
(Sarcasm voice on) But bonus points if the lady who models them is easy to look at. (Sarcasm voice off)
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12W. Do the math. 863 miles 2-3 gas stops, bad back and siting is hell. A few walk abouts to keep from going to the E.R. Food. 300 runs over 240 in a TAD dragster and NHRA championship, red hat at 273.4 Maybe I do my racing on the track :angel:
Sorry I forgot to insert the sarcasm emoji. :oops:
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Okay, kids. Pinch me and tell me I'm not dreaming, but I think the stream is working. You can get there via the front page of the site.
You're welcome to tell me that it's working, but I'm gonna got tell Jimbo in the Speed Demon pit that it's running (he's been helping me).
You can get there via this, too.
http://webca.st/154607
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Ab Jenkins! How fast will it go? :cheers:
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Jon, i hear music on it. It must be working. Looking forward to tomorrow. Mark.
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Nice and clear.
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Crystal clear sound here in Phoenix, Arizona
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Five by five in Canmore, Alberta.
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L&C in PA. Thanks for your time and effort.
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Ah yes,,,,,,,one of my favorites,,,,,,,,,,,Bob Dylan.
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:-D Thank you Slim! I have my 715 hat ready for tomorrow.
Last year Alex in
The Speed Demon pit gifted my wife and me with hats after George made his fastest pass of the week. It was a fun moment with some great guys.
Sounds good in GA. Will be listening in the morning.
Tybeeman
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Sounds good. Crystal clear.
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"5 & 9" here in Diamond Bell Ranch at Tucson, AZ, Jon. Thanks for streaming the audio.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Wall to wall sound here! Can't wait to listen in.
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So, has the salt improved enough for a good five mile long course?
John
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So, has the salt improved enough for a good five mile long course?
John
From the SCTA Facebook page
SW 2019 Update #11 (8/12/19):
Tomorrow the salt opens at 6:30 a.m. and you can go to your course & line up. You must obey all Speed Limits and No Crossing Courses. There is no lining up before the salt opens it is first come first serve. Racing will begin at 7:30 a.m.
Long Course: Will be located on Course #1 and used for Long Course Vehicles & Short Course Vehicles
? Long Course Vehicles will only be timed to Mile #4 and must shut down immediately after and exit before Mile #6. You will be timed at Mile #1, Mile #2, Mile #2 ?, Mile #3 & Mile #4. If you go past Mile #6 it is in bad shape.
? Short Course Vehicles will be timed to the 3-Mile and must shut down immediately after. You will be timed at Mile #1, Mile #2, Mile #2 ? & Mile #3.
Rookie Course: Will be located on Course #3 and is for Rookies Only
? You will be timed to Mile #1 and must exit before Mile #2. This is a License Only Course and No Records Can Be Set.
Rookie orientation is tomorrow (Tuesday) at 8:00 a.m. and Wed-Thurs at 11:00 a.m. at the Registration Trailer.
JUST A REMINDER, THE NEW SPEED LIMIT FOR THE ACCESS ROAD IS 45 MPH.
We will continue to post updates.
See ya on the salt!
Bill Lattin
SCTA President
Pat McDowell
BNI Chairman
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SCTA said: "... There is no lining up before the salt opens it is first come first serve. Racing will begin at 7:30 a.m."
In other words, no lining up in pre-stage. I heard it said that the penalty for leaving a race vehicle overnight down by the start line - was to hafta go to the end of the line and wait for everyone else or somethin'. So there's nobody at the line, but - I expect one heck of a Oklahoma Land Rush to get there first. For instance, there are two cars parked at the fuel truck tonight. One is Dan Haugh's Saab and the other is under a tarp but sure looks like the Speed Demon to me. Hmm. . . 8-)
Speaking of the Speed Demon, this will give a bit of perspective to getting a coupla thousand HP from 255 cubic inches. Take a look at the turbo here. It's dang near big enough to put my thigh through the housing. And then look -- oh, jeez, there's one on the other side, too, and I bet it ain't no smaller than this one. Lookit those sons-a-guns!
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Here are some pics of Doug Grieve's fuel injection system for the Jaguar as well as a few other tidbits.
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(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4316_zpsqjkb5klg.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4316_zpsqjkb5klg.jpg.html)
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4315_zpscxl63es2.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4315_zpscxl63es2.jpg.html)
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4313_zpsvkufiopq.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4313_zpsvkufiopq.jpg.html)
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4314_zps8jxfpidm.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4314_zps8jxfpidm.jpg.html)
Seen in the pits this evening:
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Also seen in the pits.
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(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4324_zpsf8fgmewi.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4324_zpsf8fgmewi.jpg.html)
WHO??
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(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4320_zps3eegm5a2.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG_4320_zps3eegm5a2.jpg.html)
Racing starts tomorrow and the stream is easy to start and I'll try to get there to start it for youse kids at home/work/not here.
GOOD NIGHT!
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Slim:
You did a typo! This year (at least according to the plate on top of it) Speed Demon's engine is 555 - not 255 - cubic inches. That would jibe with its AA/BFS class markings.
And we all know George likes to be at the head of the line on day 1.
Jeff from Boise - who's looking forward to running tomorrow, too!
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Morning Slim, good to hear you again.
Have a safe day and go fast.
From Peterhead, Scotland
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Audio is loud and clear even in .... Germany.
Following the event from the other side of the pond. 8-)
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Getting ready to leave my house. I'm 110 miles away. I might miss the first hour but not much more than that. :cheers:
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No typo. The 715 carwas entered with the AA/555 motor, but it's the E/255 that's in the car this morning. I'll hazard the guess that George and team wants to run a good number first thing - and the big motor is kinda overkill for the might-be-funky race track.
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... and as usual he probably has several engines of different sizes packed. According to HRM he also wants to go for the A/BFS record with a 441" engine.
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Are you streaming today.
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No sign of any streaming yet. How does the course look this morning?
Good luck everyone.
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No runs yet but any minute. I think the stream is live - checks ok here in the trailer.
I haven't been on the course, of course, but the access roads were pretty dry.
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The stream is running however it seems to be a recording. Have they started broadcasting live?
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Loud and clear here in the UK. Thanks gents. Nice to hear you again.
Good luck guys.
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Audio stream appears to be live now, new link: http://webca.st/154610
Cars are on the salt!!!
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Yep, it's working! :-P
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Dammit Slim, turn your Mic on!
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Awesome coverage! :cheers:
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Is anybody else getting seemingly random snippets of music in the live stream?
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for this part of the community which has no chance to listen to the live stream....
can someone work with the keyboard and get us some information.....as be not on the salt is just.....tough....
would be great, thanks :cheers:
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I'm here. Having a blast.
What CB channel do you guys use out here?
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Levels are fine. Just need to stay consistent with your distance from your mics. It goes up and down as you move away from them.
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I assume there has been no live runs yet?
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We're running
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Listening in the UK and sounding good!
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Ron and Slim,
Put the officials radio nearer the mic you are broadcasting through. That way we can hear some of the radio chatter a bit better.
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Porkpie. Poteet 332mph on a346 record. Beck and Davidson's 240. Foggy spin #44 at the 1 mile. Only running 4 mile course. Very slippery between the 2 an 3. Nobody can hook it up.
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Pork Pie,
the audio link posted above (post #161) is working everywhere!
:cheers:
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Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i must be smoking crack..........................All i have been hearing for the last couple of hours is a repeat of long ago interviews of Al Teaque and Louise. No runs at all.
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zzcrusin'
...use the link posted in #161!
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The live streaming is only available from the landracing site home page. Click on streaming at top right. Not on scta site.
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The stream is in lots of sites and FB pages. You need to start a new tab or you'll hear yesterday's stuff.
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Holy Camoli...............................Thank you Stick..............i have been using the one that Slim posted in #135.......................Whew,,,,,,Thought i ate a bad bowl of oatmeal or some one drugged my coffee. Thanks again.
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:cheers:
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Must be 30 vans inline with 10 bikes each...
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Instagram video from Tim McMaster showing the line waiting to run:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1G5jDznuCK/?igshid=1egoxxi6iel7i (https://www.instagram.com/p/B1G5jDznuCK/?igshid=1egoxxi6iel7i)
Mike
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Thanks Mike for your video
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Slim,
What was the number on that K Diesel Streamliner that ran 50 on the Rookie Course? Could you give out some info on that car and team?
I don't have a copy of the entry program.
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(https://photos.imageevent.com/peteh/bonnevillespeedweek081219/large/IMG_0725.JPG)
We were only able to spend Sunday and Monday at Bonneville. Sadly we had to take off but met many many amazing people. This racing community is THE best.
Thanks to Slim for streaming live and please know your efforts are greatly appreciated. I tossed 290 pix from camping at the bend, the car show at the Nugget and cars at the pits. Link to my pix can be found at:
https://imageevent.com/peteh/bonnevillespeedweek081219
If you see any pix of you that you want removed, kindly PM me the number of the pic and I will take it off! Thanks to all the people we met who explained so much about the classes, engines, tuning, racing, etc. THANKS!
Slim, I still have a racing book for you in SLC. If you head back this way I have a cold beer and the book for you! PM me if you are running through SLC.
Pix from 2017...
https://imageevent.com/peteh/speedweekbonnevillesaltflats
Pix from 2018...
https://imageevent.com/peteh/bonnevillespeedweek2018081518
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Does anyone have know why Land Speed Louise was removed from the meet on Sunday. The qestion was on SCTA's Facebook page.
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I heard that she drove down the course when nobody was supposed to. Which resulted in her being removed. Rumor.
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Day two of runs begins in a little while. Ron is out there now but hasn't sent any news about the courses - so that's good. He sent a pic of a nice sunrise, though. I'll leave for the salt and start the stream so you can listen to the drivel of the day. See you on the salt.
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Ready and waiting ;-)
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Great job Slim!
Loud and clear hear in Lake Havasu.....se ya next year!
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Loud and clear in the UK again.
Sorry to hear Speed Demon AND Eddies Chop Shop pulled off the course.
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I'm at work and can't listen in. From what I've read, the salt is less than ideal. Has anybody made it to impound this year?
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From what I heard, couldn't follow the stream continuously (being at work), there were quite a few turn outs today.
But a lot of records have been broken already in the 'slower' classes... so a few went to impound and need to do the return run.
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Is the meet being broadcast today? Can someone supply the link, thanks.
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More Instagram from Tim McMaster:
C/AIR the way it was intended?
3 pics: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1JiAwhHeEW/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/B1JiAwhHeEW/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Start line video: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1JlV9yni7z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/B1JlV9yni7z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Mike
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Go to the homepage for Landracing and the link's right there.
Pete
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It's a fresh new different link each day.
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Question, where is the info on the racing class like C/AIR , what method powers those cars, air tank pressure or ? I know its a fairly new class but never heard what it consists of. thanks
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Slim,
Do you still have shirts?
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Avantikid,
you could ask your questions in the 'Technical Discussion' section on this very forum...
Then there is 'forms and documents' on the SCTA homepage.
Haha... just being answered by our moderators!!
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AIR Means American Iron Roadster, with a C size engine.
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Jon,
hope they liked the picture I create for the front and the back of the Salt Talk shirt.....
Slim,
Do you still have shirts?
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Some of them Compressed Air Roadsters have different sizes of engines. The only legal size is "C", but it don't matter if you never make it to Impound.
The class was conceived for to solve something it has never come close to happening.
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Thanks GH for answering my question, I do remember years ago a team from France brought over a car that was powered by air pressure tank and I think it only did about 120 mph, they brought with them a helicopter to video the attempt, was a failure, they were very disappointed . Dave
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if the course holds up, what time will they shut down today?
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Are the runs being posted anywhere?
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Are the runs being posted anywhere?
The SCTA website should start posting the daily run logs any day now.
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Does anyone know if the guys from Speed Goat salt racing ran as yet?
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Jon,
hope they liked the picture I create for the front and the back of the Salt Talk shirt.....
Slim,
Do you still have shirts?
Pork Pie:
It.s now on the Home Page of Land Racing. com. I love it, thank you for sharing the great shots of Doc. Freud. A wonderful man and a friend to all.
Jon will send my shirts to me after sppedweek. Can't wait to wear one and keep the other forever.
BR
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From what I've read, the salt is less than ideal.
I would agree with that statement! It was by far the roughest I've seen in my 20 runs. The pits have emptied out quite a bit. Talked to some people who pulled the plug without even making a run. Lost power a bit past halfway today, but still managed to qualify for a "C" license. Looks like it was the L/H turbo, which has now been replaced. We went to re-stage the car, and were overjoyed to see that the line was MUCH shorter than yesterday or earlier today. So we're hoping with fewer cars, it won't get torn up as quickly or badly. They were moving the course to the right once again as we left.
Jeff from Boise
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From the SCTA website:
SW 2019 Update #13 (8/14/19):
Today there were 9 record returns and 348 runs today. There was 1 car & 8 motorcycle records set this morning and today there are 7 cars & 4 motorcycles in impound. The fastest of the meet is still the Speed Demon at 332.815.
Rookie orientation is tomorrow (Thursday) at 11:00 a.m. at the Registration Trailer.
Tomorrow the salt opens at 6:30 a.m. and you can go to your course & line up. You must obey all Speed Limits and No Crossing Courses. Racing will begin at 7:30 a.m.
Mike
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Sure seems slow on here today.
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Does any one have any data on any of the runs today? is there a chance as the salt dries more courses can be opened??
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Thank you guys for doing the broadcast. We left Tuesday after only making 1 run, but it is great to hear what is going on.
Mark Ortiz
#5811
1968 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
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Any word on Target550?
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Well a 218 run for her. Not to bad for the first sitting.
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I think 277 today for Target 550
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That's quite possible wicked. I thought Ron or slim said 218, but i could be mistaken.
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Did the turbinator ll run at all this week.
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Yes!
There was a delay to get running; then it just cruised very slowly, picked up to maybe 100 MPH.
Jon said he heard something at the start.
Jim
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We heard an announcement on the radio that Team Vesco was just doing a data-gathering pass. That may be the case, as even though it was running quite slowly, they did make a full pass, rather than turning out.
Speaking of turn outs, on my third run in the 6556, it died right off the line. So, I turned out immediately, and my guys pushed me over to the return road. Turned out to be the R/H turbo, matching the L/H turbo failure mid-way on the first run. The good news is that we did qualify for a "C" license on that first run. On the second, we ran a 191+ in Mile 3 for the "B" license sign-off. Hope to try for more at WoS with new turbo's!
Jeff from Boise
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The event is done. We ran the qualifiers from yesterday - most but not all backed up the record - and pulled the plug on it.
Next time for sure!! Thanks for everything, kids, and don't forget that I have t-shirts to sell you. $20 each plus shipping, and I'll cram in as many as I can in a flat rate package.
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The event is done. We ran the qualifiers from yesterday - most but not all backed up the record - and pulled the plug on it.
Next time for sure!! Thanks for everything, kids, and don't forget that I have t-shirts to sell you. $20 each plus shipping, and I'll cram in as many as I can in a flat rate package.
Thanks for keeping us non-attenders up to date. Safe Travels.
BR
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I know it's way too early to speculate, but after the conditions at SpeedWeek, are there any prognostications about course quality at WoS?
I had a great time at SpeedWeek getting to visit and meet new people and I was so glad (in an ironic way) that we had last minute problems and didn't drag the truck all the way there just to sit in frustration.
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Even though conditions were not the best, Slim you and Ron made it better. Thanks for all you guys do.
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We didn't get to run, either.
With all that time to kill, it became apparent that getting to see the people we only see once a year may be a great reason to attend.
I'm not looking at the event as a failure, but I guess everyone would not come without the goal of running.
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I understand that we have to make the best of the situation,
but.......
I know that if I would have invested all of the time , money, and effort into getting to Speedweek,
I would consider it a huge failure if I wasn't able to run.
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We were ready to run. It just didn't make sense to run under the conditions. Sure to go slow (at best) and a mess to clean up. Our choice.
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Hey Jon, as everyone else has already said, thank you guys for the effort to bring this to us 'un-attendee's ' - made it feel like we were there.GREAT JOB! I will give you time to get home and get your s..t together and then get in touch for a couple shirts . Safe travels, maybe we'll meet next year! Ed & Leona # 1011 :cheers: :cheers:
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Jon, thanks for the hard work getting the live feed up and running. I was traveling for work and couldn't attend in person but because of your effort it sounded great and was the next best thing to being there. Rickr
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ya' wanna go 200+ on this . . .
69187999_878528042521314_2462778129207263232_n.mp4
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ya' wanna go 200+ on this . . .
69187999_878528042521314_2462778129207263232_n.mp4
Stan, if that is supposed to be a link it isn't, If it was supposed to be a file it still isn't. What ever it was you have my interest, what was it?
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Well after a four day drive out and the return drive home were back in CT. This years salt was by far a complete failure after waiting until day number four for the opportunity to make a run all of us were hoping for the best but it was not to be. The surface conditions were horrible at best. Just towing to the staging was an early indication of what we were getting our self's into good thing I had four wheel drive to pull my stuff out of the soft salt on the way into staging those deep ruts caused a number of stuck vehicles what a mess. Rumor has it the towing company in town was charging a handsome sum to get some unlucky souls out of that mess. Prior to my one and only run just before leaving the line I was told by one high up SCTA official the coarse was JUNK! Boy he was not kidding never have i seen ruts so deep and bad all over the racing surface. My car is so low I can not see the surface very well however it was easy to see the poor surface conditions due to there depth and numerous amount. So another year is now over thankfully my car myself and the engine are fine. Maybe one day i will return but truthfully there needs to be some serious thought about a good race coarse. Now some will say the rain did us {I agree it sure did not help}but i ask if thats the only reason this year was so bad how is it after the firth mile it was dirt no salt at all the rain did this or am i missing something? This year might be a record for the least amount of records set especially by fast cars and bikes.
But there is a bright side to the event seeing friends in person the one time each year and of course listening to the event announcers while waiting in line for hours and hours. Heres an in car video of my run hold on tight.
https://youtu.be/NxZW5vqA0mA
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Ron, the salt was salty out as far as I went - about the 7 1/2 on the long course, and the 4 1/2 on the short/rookie course. It was getting thin and therefore kinda gooey, but it was salt. Just not good enough to drive on more than casually.
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It looked so good leading up to SpeedWeek. Sucks it went bad for everybody. I had many problems that kept me from going. Maybe next year? :cheers:
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Same here. We had a multitude of problems that stacked up on us preventing coming out. Here?s to a better 2020. :cheers:
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I know there were much higher expectations from many racers, reading some waited 7 hours to run never feels very good, and reminded me of the mid 70's when that was the norm at the begining of any of the Speedweek at Bonneville. I looked to Thursday results listed on the SCTA-BNI page and found it interesting that it appeared to be like almost every Bonneville's week of making runs near the end of the week. I realize these will be short course but there were many vehicles making multiple runs as high as 10 by one competitor. This can only tell me many packed it in when car's/MC's under 175 could have learned a lot. Yes I know the course wasn't that good but seat time is important even driving on a "not so good track" will help especially multiple guys are trying to get a chance to get behind the wheel.
There are a lot more records under 175 than over and I feel guys gave up to quickly. Bonnevile has always been in the hands of mother nature and it does seen weird to me that and one day quick storm could do so much damage but we all know what we are up against..JD
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I got 8 runs in on the rookie course , got my e license , could not get over 60 mph. , barely got out of second gear because short 1 mile . first time to put any seat time in. was a blast. myself and crew learned a lot , think we have it dialed in now. k diesel streamliners aren't exactly high speed runners.
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In looking back on the SCTA's Facebook updates, it appears things weren't that great even before the Thursday night squall. They were talking about just three courses back in late July. At that time, they said it was still too early to groom the long course. Of course, the squall didn't help. It was an adventure every time we had to drive through the end of the staging lane area.
Even though we were plagued by turbocharger problems (lost a couple) I was still able to get a couple in and get my "B" license with one good pass at 191. That was definitely an adventure, too!
In looking at the results, it appears there will be no new red hats this year. Has that ever happened before (when the meet actually took place)?
Jeff - now back in Boise
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I miss Doc. Thanks SSS, Stainless and PorkPie for your efforts.
Much appreciated.
Tom G.
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Tom, any hemi building activity?? If so how far.
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Tom, any hemi building activity?? If so how far.
George,
I am at a crossroads on the motor and have been burned before by rule changes.
New rule changes in the class have made it so that I cannot do what I had planned.
So I will continue but will not be competitive as I lost my HP advantage.
Claude Lavoie will be the one to watch in the AIR class. IMO he will set the record where it should be with a Early Chrysler Hemi. He is a nice guy and a fierce competitor, and I wish him the best.
Tom G.
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Tom, I'm out of the loop,so what new rule change prevents you from making H.P. They didn't ban hidden NOS did they? Claude's Hemi is a ???? Why is it so superior to yours. Are they making changes. If so what.
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I know there were much higher expectations from many racers, reading some waited 7 hours to run never feels very good, and reminded me of the mid 70's when that was the norm at the begining of any of the Speedweek at Bonneville. I looked to Thursday results listed on the SCTA-BNI page and found it interesting that it appeared to be like almost every Bonneville's week of making runs near the end of the week. I realize these will be short course but there were many vehicles making multiple runs as high as 10 by one competitor. This can only tell me many packed it in when car's/MC's under 175 could have learned a lot. Yes I know the course wasn't that good but seat time is important even driving on a "not so good track" will help especially multiple guys are trying to get a chance to get behind the wheel.
There are a lot more records under 175 than over and I feel guys gave up to quickly. Bonnevile has always been in the hands of mother nature and it does seen weird to me that and one day quick storm could do so much damage but we all know what we are up against..JD
On Monday, we asked a few SCTA bike officials if we could run the Rookie course, because all our rider was trying to do is maintain his license (he ran last in '16). They said heck no, it was only for drivers and riders that were licencing (isn't that the same thing???)
Tuesday morning, we got in line at 5:30am on the blacktop. Around 6:20am, Lands End opened up. Within thirty minutes, we picked up our bike at the four mile and was in staging. Looking back at the blacktop, the line stretched to at least the Bend.
We waited in line for just over seven and a half hours, at which time they closed the course due to crappy conditions. We were the fifth vehicle from the starting line!
When we got back to our trailer, the crew pitted next to us claimed to have made four runs on the Rookie course. That kind of rubbed be the wrong way. They had three new drivers trying to get licensed. Our rider was basically trying to do the same thing, and still couldn't run.
Anywho, Wednesday morning weather was amazing. After about eight backup runs, two 300mph runs, and the four in front of us ran, we finally got our shot after nine hours of waiting in line.
Our rider said that after ten years of road racing, that single pass was the scariest ride he has even had. Deep ruts and greasy. His speed was down 10mph from his last pass in '16. He accomplished one of the two goals we had for this year, the other was to bump up a class. Maybe next year...
This made me feel a little better on Wednesday morning...
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We had part of that mess figured out. We would take the roadster to town on the trailer with the goal of going directly from Land's End to the starting line. We only wanted to make one run (to get the driver an A license) and then go home. We even pulled up the tarp in the pits so we wouldn't have to swim back to there to pick it up.
We then inspected the starting lines of 1 and 3 and gave it up. It was obvious we wouldn't reach our goal any way.
Sure was fun seeing all our friends any way.
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We got with in 6 feet of the staging lanes sign before they closed racing on day one (we were apprx 100 back in line). Took Stainless's advice and brought our own 80 s.f. of shade and made a few friends in the 8 or 9 hours we were in line. Parked the truck in line overnite for the day two. Had a min. 3 hr wait on day two to make a run only to find the course wet and rutted. Turned out at the two and headed for the pits without stopping to get a time slip. Milled around for awhile, heard Jim Knapp was headed to the rookie course with the streamliner and figured if it would hold his car it should hold my bike. He did not run but we did. The rookie course was not too bad. Made a few runs to the mile, collected data for next year and earned the right to wear the participant shirt in public. Thank you SCTA for putting on a meet in spite of the conditions.
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We did the same,hauled the race car to the hotel with us and got a great spot in line at the long course the next morning,one of 8 to make it to the 4 mile the first day.Boy what a ride,then we hung it up and are hoping WOS will be better.
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We managed to "bump up" an existing record in G/DT class. It took a total of 5 runs, and putting the little truck into impound on 2 separate occasions to get the job done.
Conditions were not the best, but a bad day on the salt is better than a good day just about any other place.
We did find ourselves wishing that we had brought some wider, flatter tires, in an attempt to "float" on top of the mushy areas.
Steve
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Tom, I'm out of the loop,so what new rule change prevents you from making H.P. They didn't ban hidden NOS did they? Claude's Hemi is a ???? Why is it so superior to yours. Are they making changes. If so what.
George,
Sorry no hidden NOS on anything I will run. Claude's hemi is based on 1951-1958 Chrysler. For the class size at 372 cubic inch, early Chrysler motors are just a better match for the class if running a Hemi motor. I will not go into a long winded dissertation as to why.
As far as the rule change I first saw it in the 2018 rule book in bold print under American Iron Roadster. These rules are more prohibitive than Production car rules as far as what you can do to the head. Heck most if not all Vintage Ford Flathead V8 motors running in XF classes can run a Billet head if you want to, they don't have to run a stock head, exception might be production class.
The Pro Stock drag racing class started in 1970 and people were welding and using epoxy everywhere in their heads, so nothing new. I think someone wanted to protect their particular engine in this class, but that is just my opinion.
If this class was made to get all of the old roadsters back out on the salt, it should also have include the stance of the roadsters that ran back in the day (Highboy) and make the roadsters running in the class that are on the ground illegal.
I will probably make the switch to the roadster class, as those rules have been beat to death over the years and are not likely to change. Hopefully.
Tom G.
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Thanks Tom, good explanation on everything but hidden NOS :lol: :lol:
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We managed to "bump up" an existing record in G/DT class.
Did you get that record on Friday, 8/16? SCTA still hasn't posted any speeds for that date, which I believe were return runs only.
Jeff in Boise
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We managed to "bump up" an existing record in G/DT class.
Did you get that record on Friday, 8/16? SCTA still hasn't posted any speeds for that date, which I believe were return runs only.
Jeff in Boise
Usually on Friday they do returns for Thursday and then run qualifying runs and backup returns on the same day before closing the meet down. I wasn't there but that is probably what they did. So you can qualify and back it up all in one day on Friday,
Sumner
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Sum, all they did this time was return runs on Friday. No qualifiers.
Wayno
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Has the SCTA posted new records yet ? I can't seem to find anything on their home page .
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Not yet.
http://www.scta-bni.org/2019-sw-race-results.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/2019-sw-race-results.html)
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Anybody know what the top speed of the meet was?
Sid.
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Speed Demon - 369
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Ron Main sent this link to Hot Rod just now:
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/george-poteets-speed-demon-tops-2019-bonneville-speed-week/?fbclid=IwAR0NcDQ2ricA1hcyZqSMGWNeDRTPimk8JyRb6DXru6TID22Phr2PXMU8uts
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George is looking like he is into being healthy :-D
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Speed Demon - 369
That's definitely an angry number to put down on a plowed field!
Sid.
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Sid, that's exactly how I heard the middle of course #1 described by -- an official, not just a competitor. There just weren't nothin' that could be done to make it better. I'll post a couple of pics of the water table situation when I get home. I found this puddle near the edge of the return road late in the day when the light was just right to show how close to the surface the water table lies. This pic was taken last Wednesday -- the rains had fallen the previous Thursday. The cone line follows the underground river that traverses the salt. Said river didn't remain underground all week, although course workers hauled in salt and filled it as best they could.
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This was Thursday, the 8th, in the morning...
Look at that sheen...
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I was talking to a Racer while on the Salt about the water table level (Saw the same thing as Slim) and he was saying the full moon had an impact on water table level....
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Saw the same thing on The Weather Channel concerning high tides and flooding around the same time. 2 and 2 are....
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To bad so much salt material is gone if it was thicker the water table would be further below. A full moon causing this is hard to believe after Thursdays two daytime showers and the dinner time rain we had four days of dry and warm weather. Things were plenty dry by Tuesday morning and still the surface was junk. Mes thinking theres more to this than a moon or some rain four days prior to when we finally were allowed to run. The spring weather pattern needs to be looked at if its wet and cold and not getting warm theres going to be trouble a few locals already knew it was going to be a problem well before the event took place noting this weather pattern. Those knowing how the spring weather will effect the surface are way ahead of knowing whats going to happen. Just look at last years spring weather hot and dry and compare that to this years cycle. For the future getting to know the early weather pattern will help guide how the surface conditions will be. Some will poke fun at weather change but for what we need the local weather pattern should be of concern and maybe even a separate post beginning in early spring on this forum to help educate us on whats going on.
Ronnieroadster
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To bad so much salt material is gone if it was thicker the water table would be further below. A full moon causing this is hard to believe after Thursdays two daytime showers and the dinner time rain we had four days of dry and warm weather. Things were plenty dry by Tuesday morning and still the surface was junk. Mes thinking theres more to this than a moon or some rain four days prior to when we finally were allowed to run. The spring weather pattern needs to be looked at if its wet and cold and not getting warm theres going to be trouble a few locals already knew it was going to be a problem well before the event took place noting this weather pattern. Those knowing how the spring weather will effect the surface are way ahead of knowing whats going to happen. Just look at last years spring weather hot and dry and compare that to this years cycle. For the future getting to know the early weather pattern will help guide how the surface conditions will be. Some will poke fun at weather change but for what we need the local weather pattern should be of concern and maybe even a separate post beginning in early spring on this forum to help educate us on whats going on.
Ronnieroadster
Well said,we met a gentleman at a gas station on our way out of town on Wednesday,he was fueling up his city of Wendover garbage truck,we got to BSing and he said he also helps run the water for the city and also is in charge of 2 reservoirs,he stated the the rain wasn?t the cause of this year?s conditions,record rain and snow all season has caused the high water table.He feels if weather stays warm that WOS may be ok.I should have got a phone # for future conditions from a guy who knows :x
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So, a bit of useless trivia that highlights how bad the track was. George and Speed Demon got the fast time of the meet with the only 2 runs over 300. But the fastest record (until they put up the official ones anyway) was set by a lowly Gasoline powered, Naturally aspirated G motor car at 182.144 which also was the only long course qualifier all week. 8-) :cheers: :cheers:
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I'm pretty sure that's correct, even though they (still) haven't posted the Friday morning return runs. I think those were all short course vehicles, though.
According to my count of the posted results - it looks like only 29 different vehicles (2 bikes and 27 cars) - actually made a "full" pass. And this year, that was only 4 miles instead of 5.
Jeff in Boise
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Pedantry: Speed Demon made three 300+mph runs (two on 13 and one on 15 August). According to the results posted on the SCTA-BNI web site, anyway.
Arguably the most interesting fast runs were Salt Shark's 288mph and 290mph in BGS/B. New-ish car, extraordinary shape and front wheel drive (I think). clap
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I know the conditions were not great for racers but for a scoping visit in anticipation of being a rookie in the near future we had a wonderful time. Met some great people (i.e. everyone we met). Chatted to tech, got a logbook and a race number, spent time at VP Fuels, found the laundromat - all the things that would add to the stress trying to unravel them as a rookie. We flew in via LA and went to he Petersen - talk about jammy timing (see pic).
A real shame Geoff's car didn't do a run but spending time in his pits, watching tech, meeting folks was a treat.
Hearing it fire on nitro for the first time was awesome though a little eye watering.
Bought a couple of Salt Talks tees (thanks Slim) but lost a Lemming Motors one in the process - Ross P - you know who you are. I took mine off to size one of Slims and Ross trousered it - to be fair he paid me $20 but I also got a $2 note out of him (never seen one before) so I will consider that the fee for the sweat on the tee that he acquired. Additional sweat could be made available for a similar fee :-D
The steering rack (thanks Rex) got the once over at security in SLC airport and is now safely home.
Thanks everyone for making us feel welcome and answering the naive questions.
John and Steve :cheers:
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I was at about the 3 1/8 for the event. The Speed Demon made two runs the first day. First of those was the E motor tuned with lots of boost and power available. The run sounded like the car often does -- kinda sputtering and shooting ducks a little bit. The engine was running fine but the course was so funky the the various sensors and MoTeCs and everything were fighting to keep some semblance of acceleration. The last mile (we didn't have an exit speed trap this year) was a 332.
A few hours later George and team made another run, this time evidently with the power dialed way down. The car sounded very smooth as it passed -- and ran a 300.
I think it was the next morning that a bearing spun in the little motor. The team went to the pits and installed the AA (new class for the car) bullet. The car made one run with the big engine on Thursday (I think it was) and turned that 369, which cemented its chances of the big trophy.
The car stayed, shrouded, in the pits until racing ended Thursday afternoon.
Edit: WHERE THE HECK DID THOSE EMOJI THINGS COME FROM, MR. WEB ELF BOB???
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Pedantry: Speed Demon made three 300+mph runs (two on 13 and one on 15 August). According to the results posted on the SCTA-BNI web site, anyway.
Arguably the most interesting fast runs were Salt Shark's 288mph and 290mph in BGS/B. New-ish car, extraordinary shape and front wheel drive (I think). clap
You are right. Sorry I missed that 0.6mph milestone. In retrospect I was aware they had pulled up for a second run Tuesday as I was in line with 400 or so other folks waiting for our first (and the vast majority didn't make one then or Wednesday either). I heard some not so subtle comments that considering the circumstances that this wasn't exactly fair.
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I heard some not so subtle comments that considering the circumstances that this wasn't exactly fair.
I was probably saying something similar after their second pass on the first day...
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The 300 mph line allows one pass a day. Perhaps the Speed Demon was in the regular line for the first run and the 300 line for the other -- nothing unfair with that.
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The 300 mph line allows one pass a day. Perhaps the Speed Demon was in the regular line for the first run and the 300 line for the other -- nothing unfair with that.
That is the exact story that I heard.
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I bet being a Golden sponsor doesn't hurt either.Not knocking a guy for his success,my next go around Im going to pay more attention to that teachn lady!!!
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The 300 mph line allows one pass a day. Perhaps the Speed Demon was in the regular line for the first run and the 300 line for the other -- nothing unfair with that.
Possibly so but they were off to the side the entire time, not in the regular line. The rest of us have to be ready to run when we get to the front, no sitting off to the side and pull in whenever we feel like it. But if the first run was "regular" and the second "300 line", OK. I did see ( I assume, was wearing the T shirt) Shane T with computer attached trying to figure out something, start car etc, while off to the side.
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Jacksoni: Congratulations on setting the fastest record at Speedweek 2019! Having made a licensing pass down to the 4, I can testify there was nothing "lowly" about your effort. That course was not for the faint of heart!
Jeff in Boise
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The 300 mph line allows one pass a day. Perhaps the Speed Demon was in the regular line for the first run and the 300 line for the other -- nothing unfair with that.
That is true. But I remember hearing that for the first day, there would not be a 300mph lane because of the long lines.
If you type the word R U N the emoji on crutches shows up.
Tom G.
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Arguably the most interesting fast runs were Salt Shark's 288mph and 290mph in BGS/B. New-ish car, extraordinary shape and front wheel drive (I think). clap
IMO they were the best r u n s of the week.
Tom G.
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Those emojis are annoying ? almost as annoying as the constantly scrambled punctuation marks.
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I understand that any car like speed demon isn't as simple to send down the course as most are. If they are in the normal line and need to pull over near the front to prep the car then I am ok with that.
I remember hearing someone complain over the CB about speed demon getting a 2nd run when most people hadn't had even one run yet. Then I believe Slim said "reference the rule book" and then someone said "too dumb to read"
I got plenty of laughs out of the commentary on the stream so thanks for that Slim and co.
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To bad so much salt material is gone if it was thicker the water table would be further below.
On that note... This year more than ever I noticed how much salt was leaving the flats stuck to cars, trucks and trailers. Seems like even if the mining stopped completely, intrepid, morton etc... Just the fact that cars drive out there and take salt with them every day seems like we'll keep losing that battle. Seems like we need a permanent and mandatory wash station at the end of the road plus everyone should scrape down their cars before leaving.
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I understand that any car like speed demon isn't as simple to send down the course as most are. If they are in the normal line and need to pull over near the front to prep the car then I am ok with that. ...
There was a push to let the 300+ mph cars have a 'kind of go to the head of the line' a few years back and I was in support of that. You start running a car that fast and it isn't as simple as just move up in line and run. Very few are going to make more than one run a day as it is. I had no problem at all with them doing it and still don't. There aren't that many over 300 mph cars running and they provided some of the best long term memories of runs on the salt for me. Give them a break and enjoy watching history,
Sumner
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There were a lot of spectators that stayed around after the weekend. With only one track for most of the cars to run on (except for those testing) it would have been boring watching 80 mph motor cycles and all of the cars that "bagged" there run at the 1 mile because the track was to rough. It's kind of like NHRA that empties the stands till the TFD and Funnys run. I was there to see the 6 or 7 cars that I expected to go over 400. Speed Demon was the big show and I'm glad they let it run.
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Dawn on Friday morning was magical and the return run atmosphere was great. Lots of 'Impound' calls too.
We left as much salt as we could but the big rental truck seemed to have lots of nooks and crannies and it was the thick end of $20 in quarters before we returned it to SLC airport.
In terms of salt losses - I felt sorry for the guy at the Garter who seemed to be vacuuming the corridors full time.
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In terms of salt losses - I felt sorry for the guy at the Garter who seemed to be vacuuming the corridors full time.
The Garter hired a cleaning staff?
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I understand that any car like speed demon isn't as simple to send down the course as most are. If they are in the normal line and need to pull over near the front to prep the car then I am ok with that. ...
There was a push to let the 300+ mph cars have a 'kind of go to the head of the line' a few years back and I was in support of that. You start running a car that fast and it isn't as simple as just move up in line and run. Very few are going to make more than one run a day as it is. I had no problem at all with them doing it and still don't. There aren't that many over 300 mph cars running and they provided some of the best long term memories of runs on the salt for me. Give them a break and enjoy watching history,
Sumner
Agreed. I wouldn't have an issue with it either.
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If javajoe thinks the problem with the salt is trailers and cars removing it he must be a congressman receiving re-election campaign money from Intrepid. That's like saying the beaches are erroding because people are taking it home on their bare feet..
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I admit it -- I took (about) 50# of salt home with me on the truck. I took the truck to the local car wash with real brushes and had them gently hose and dig and pick and pry what they could get easily. I gave 'em an extra ten - they'd never seen anything like the salt. Of course, with that tip and the memorable salt -- I'll get great service from now on.
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I gotta agreed with JD. Once a year we shlep a small quantity of salt off. Lots of it falls down on the way to town to be recycled. How does what we do once a year compare to the railcars leaving? I don't know. And you don't either.
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As usual I made it home with about a pound or so of salt.... My powered weed sprayer and 20 gallons of water took care of most of it on the truck, another 10 got the golf cart and trailer.
My guess is those rail cars hold 50-75 tons.... each.... so the 20 or so I saw probably haul a lot more than me and Slim... and our children.... and grandchildren ...and great grandchildren ... and great great grandchildren ... and great great great grandchildren..... Well the next 10 generations if they get to race that long on the Bonneville Dry Lake.... salt or dirt.... whatever is left when the strip mining is finished
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per Google - railroad gravity discharge hopper car holds approximately 3500 cubic feet. Google lists salt at 80 lbs per cubic foot. Equates to 280,000 lbs. About 140 short tons per car.
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Why do the tons come up short? That stuff is sticky.
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Following in your footsteps :evil:
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No,no, You just don't get it Stan. The "short" is the count of the tonnage removed by Intrepid (with a lot of help from the BLM accounting department). "One Run", out......................................................
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The rail cars are marked with load weights/limits, and commonly you'll find the cars marked as gross weight of about 220,000# and light weight - tare - about 55-60,000#. Round it up and down and back and forth - and each car carries around 70-80 tons of freight.
Up here the iron mining trains are about 60 cars long - long distance trains are more like 100 cars.
Enough data for now.
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I'll bet Marcia never took the coupe out in winter because there was too much salt on the roads in Maine.
But that is cold winter driving. This is Bonneville!!
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The rail cars are marked with load weights/limits, and commonly you'll find the cars marked as gross weight of about 220,000# and light weight - tare - about 55-60,000#. Round it up and down and back and forth - and each car carries around 70-80 tons of freight.
Up here the iron mining trains are about 60 cars long - long distance trains are more like 100 cars.
Enough data for now.
Does any of this really matter when the long term "supply" of rail cars is: "endless"? ?
The salient issue is that: Mining, of any type, is an "extractive" industry. The resource is REMOVED, never to be seen again at its' original location. And, even if the "resource" has the appearance of being "historically endless", modern computational methods can now PROVE that any planetary resource is FINITE.
And for those who "disagree" with my "assessment" of the situation, I respectfully suggest this:
A/ Check up on the current number of Redwood trees left standing, both regular and Giant, Vs the "historical number". Go back at least 100 years . . . . . .
2/ Dig up some data on species extinction, say the number of species gone extinct in say, the 20th century. Has anyone seen a Passenger Pigeon lately? Where might Homo Sapiens be on that list? ?
d/ Check up on the Amazon Rainforest fires. Think we don't need the world's most diverse ecosystem? ? Yeah, oxygen is so . . . . . over-rated . . . . .
Our "race" is "done". My concern is for our children and grandchildren, etc. This is their "reality":
As usual I made it home with about a pound or so of salt.... My powered weed sprayer and 20 gallons of water took care of most of it on the truck, another 10 got the golf cart and trailer.
My guess is those rail cars hold 50-75 tons.... each.... so the 20 or so I saw probably haul a lot more than me and Slim... and our children.... and grandchildren ...and great grandchildren ... and great great grandchildren ... and great great great grandchildren..... Well the next 10 generations if they get to race that long on the Bonneville Dry Lake.... salt or dirt.... whatever is left when the strip mining is finished
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I realize most of you guys get this. Thanks for letting me vent . . . . . .
Hey Slim, check my grammar and punctuation. Just as a favor to Sister Justilla . . . . . :wink:
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I grew sick of trying to educate the naysayers who were & still are too stupid to get the reality of whats happening with Bonneville that I gave up trying.
Sid.
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I grew sick of trying to educate the naysayers who were & still are too stupid to get the reality of whats happening with Bonneville that I gave up trying.
Sid.
Sid,
Believe me, I "GET IT". I also find it supremely difficult to reason with the "unreasonable", and so I tend to avoid interaction with those who maintain "closed minds".
As I've aged, my "fire has diminished" and my tolerance for "stupidy" has mostly disappeared. And I also find that my blood pressure and overall cardiac condition is enhanced when dealing with Homo Sapiens as opposed to Homo Stultus or even Homo Ignoramus.
BUT, every once in a great while, a vague wisp of the "old Mark" emerges, the firebrand on a mission with a defined target. It's foolish to place yourself in the target zone of a locked and loaded Warthog, especially when the driver is willing to pull the trigger. I might not win the war with "stupidy" by myself, but I am determined to force naysayers to acknowledge that a differing point of view, based on data, does exist.
The battle to "fight the good fight" goes on . . . . . . mostly as an homage to my father, and as an example for my children . . . . .
Sid, any day you do the right thing is a good day.
:cheers:
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One wack with a ruler across the knuckles for every grammar error, Mark.
John
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Upon arriving on the salt this year i was shocked on how much lower the salt was at lands end compared to the three previous years I have driven off this same location. To get onto the salt this year it was well over two feet lower and probably even more. Gee i wonder where has that material gone. Saturday morning during the drivers meeting the Save The Salt rep spoke telling the crowd what they have been working on one item that was of great interest was the ongoing negotiation with Intrepid to stop the mining entirely on the Bonneville Salt Flats. Well the crowd of course cheered and clapped upon hearing this. Seems like a good idea to stop mining from a business sense. Since theres little material left to remove and doing so is costing more to extract with so little return in profit why not look like the good guys and stop mining all together. Last years surface was great to run on however it was no more than one inch thick. When i went way down to the eighth mile on the long coarse last year it was sad to see what was actual there. This year I wouldn't even try going down that far to look not that it was allowed anyway!
Ronnieroadster
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If javajoe thinks the problem with the salt is trailers and cars removing it he must be a congressman receiving re-election campaign money from Intrepid. That's like saying the beaches are erroding because people are taking it home on their bare feet..
I guess you glazed over me mentioning inrepid and morton too huh?
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Saturday morning during the drivers meeting the Save The Salt rep spoke telling the crowd what they have been working on one item that was of great interest was the ongoing negotiation with Intrepid to stop the mining entirely on the Bonneville Salt Flats. Well the crowd of course cheered and clapped upon hearing this. Seems like a good idea to stop mining from a business sense. Since theres little material left to remove and doing so is costing more to extract with so little return in profit why not look like the good guys and stop mining all together.
Ronnieroadster
Ronnieroadster,
At the drivers meeting I thought I also heard that some of the 5 million was going to go to a new settling pond for Intrepid, so they could return more brine at a higher percentage back to the salt. So in my opinion it would seem like they are not going to stop the mining. But we can still wish.
Like someone has already said. We need a very wealthy person or company who is interested in saving Bonneville, to purchase the mining rights from Intrepid, or bid more to the BLM than Intrepid when the lease is up. If in fact it goes out to bid. Some company like Facebook, Google, or Amazon could do it, or even a celebrity as I am sure they could use a right off on their taxes. We just need to find them.
Tom G.
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:dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse:
Look at some pix: https://photos.app.goo.gl/6Z6mrpf7SyFREUem9
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ok so where can I get my hands on some of those 'Make Bonneville Great' hats? I vend at the Portland ,Or swap meet every year and you'd be amazed at how many hats I sell during the 3 days! (Summit,Jegs, etc) But I think we could spread more info around with these things! This is probably one of the largest swap meets in this area and there is NOT a 'non-gearhead' in the crowd !A couple years ago, I distributed flyers about the plight of Bonneville and passed out 200 and had to print more, so there is an audience and many were very shocked to learn of conditions. I'm not looking to profit from selling these, so I would sell at cost! Let me know, because up in this part of the woods, we don't have many businesses that can do this, but I'm still checking! Thanks and let's keep the pressure ON! :clap :cheers: :cheers:
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Check with Rick Vesco. I think I heard that the hats were available in the Team Vesco pit.
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Thanks SSS, I will contact them this week or maybe they'll show up at WOS again. That would be super! :cheers:
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Like someone has already said. We need a very wealthy person or company who is interested in saving Bonneville, to purchase the mining rights from Intrepid, or bid more to the BLM than Intrepid when the lease is up. If in fact it goes out to bid. Some company like Facebook, Google, or Amazon could do it, or even a celebrity as I am sure they could use a right off on their taxes. We just need to find them.
Tom G.
Or consider this.
This morning, Intrepid is trading at 2.88 per share.
For the cost of a Speedweek entry, you can buy 200 shares. If we all do, we can buy in to become a voice for racers within the company itself and you have access to the stockholders report.
Hold your enemies close, your friends closer, and your corporate holdings by the balls.
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Like someone has already said. We need a very wealthy person or company who is interested in saving Bonneville, to purchase the mining rights from Intrepid, or bid more to the BLM than Intrepid when the lease is up. If in fact it goes out to bid. Some company like Facebook, Google, or Amazon could do it, or even a celebrity as I am sure they could use a right off on their taxes. We just need to find them.
Tom G.
Or consider this.
This morning, Intrepid is trading at 2.88 per share.
For the cost of a Speedweek entry, you can buy 200 shares. If we all do, we can buy in to become a voice for racers within the company itself and you have access to the stockholders report.
Hold your enemies close, your friends closer, and your corporate holdings by the balls.
UUhhmm . . . . . .
A/ Wealthy billionaire environmentalist: Why YES! Yes of course. But can one be found? I wonder. Seems to me most billionaires acquire their wealth "raping" the environment. At least historically . . . . . :wink:
2/ The "buy their stock" idea: Yes again. At the very least you get access to their "private propaganda" . . . . .
d/ "and your corporate holdings by the balls." Eewww. Just eeww. NORMALLY, I'd be quick to agree with Chris. BUT, I just don't want even the idea in my head . . . . . .
1drink
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I heard that at the end of speedweek, the BLM chopped down the sign at the boat ramp
and gave it to the SCTA .
Without replacing it! :roll:
Seriously, Why couldn't that have waited until after racing season was over?
Think of all of the BMST and WOS racers and fans who would have loved to have gotten a pic
with the sign.
It's pretty much a self involved acura-hole move as far as I can tell.
Let's do it because we want to, and not worry about taking everyone else into consideration,
I heard that a couple of BMST motorcycle racers rigged up a "replacement" sign.
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The BLM has stated that they are replacing the sign. Someone one Facebook asked why the sign wasn't given to the Bonneville museum. Whoever is running the BLM-Utah page wasn't aware of a museum. Of course, there isn't one, yet. Erin Hunter-Sills was involved in making the temporary replacement sign.
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(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/FullSizeR_zpsccy6c649.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/FullSizeR_zpsccy6c649.jpg.html)
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG954015_zpshevjnbgd.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG954015_zpshevjnbgd.jpg.html)
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG954013_zpsmoemlver.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/IMG954013_zpsmoemlver.jpg.html)
These pics are the ones that were on FB, I think -- but I got them via Betty Burkland. I'll see if I can dig back and get the story that accompanied them.
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This is what the BLM post on FB;
Have you ever seen the iconic sign with the stickers all over it at the entryway of the Bonneville Salt Flats? Do not be alarmed when it?s not there on your next visit. BLM removed this sign today and are working to replace it with a new one. BLM is working with the Southern California Timing Association to allow them to curate it in their BSF museum.
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67955095_2588885494477101_5406153151692668928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeHcX4ZYRdY2kOLjf5Ifsmy5Ey7m1EQXJnprzLQcGwMVqH3QOQ2t4k7bPq4ofp23QLXvdgbj2wvkWziXliXYYNK34A8tildJax0dRq9MyoX7gg&_nc_oc=AQk0ruS2CVJIpb0tSfSj3ElVTMnEQs9DwSdSL4_lv5bfu_ObyV5FUWR-MJGHGJ3HH1E&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=1c7ff6ff8751ca876e845d27db32a29b&oe=5E112F90)
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68984654_2588885531143764_8487611200945782784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_eui2=AeFKfQheRsf4mAGqBw5yxA1SQHtG1pjAB08j6wq3XtFFVpezw46YbA9ZRnp3AqZebIrnZ1fzmQ2khyTQalgpeNPajDiFFbyChUAmnxRwyl9Prw&_nc_oc=AQnxCgH20kas__HzeOScI0an48lOiGDcwgjd2ZBNPQVc-Gq1IqkOTqbSl2_9tSfaneI&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=4fd7f3792cff166923e91e079f2abcd0&oe=5E0A82EF)
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Terrible timing ..... that's all I'm saying.
Imagine coming from the other side of the planet to experience salt racing,
(and part of the experience being taking a pic with the Bonneville sign)
only to get out there and find out that someone thought it would be a good idea to remove it Before having a replacement sign ready to install.
Incompetence? Inconsideration? obviously a lack of forethought by whoever OK'ed it.
well...... Just another bad decision by the BLM on how to manage the operations on the salt.
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This is from Facebook's Land Speed Racing page:
(https://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202019/Screen%20Shot%202019-08-26%20at%2012.07.01%20PM_zpss5t2bpkf.png) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202019/Screen%20Shot%202019-08-26%20at%2012.07.01%20PM_zpss5t2bpkf.png.html)
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Terrible timing ..... that's all I'm saying.
Imagine coming from the other side of the planet to experience salt racing,
(and part of the experience being taking a pic with the Bonneville sign)
only to get out there and find out that someone thought it would be a good idea to remove it Before having a replacement sign ready to install.
Incompetence? Inconsideration? obviously a lack of forethought by whoever OK'ed it.
well...... Just another bad decision by the BLM on how to manage the operations on the salt.
My understanding is that it was coordinated with the SCTA so they could take the sign while at Bonneville for speed week. Not having the replacement ready does seem dumb though.
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My guess is they needed to immediately fix the 44000 acres statement to be 30000 since the salt has shrunk!
Mindless bureaucrats... there is a reason it ends in RATS
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"Incompetence? Inconsideration? obviously a lack of forethought by whoever . . ."
Oh ? I thought you were talking about the idiots that plastered stickers all over it.
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Or consider this.
This morning, Intrepid is trading at 2.88 per share.
For the cost of a Speedweek entry, you can buy 200 shares. If we all do, we can buy in to become a voice for racers within the company itself and you have access to the stockholders report.
Hold your enemies close, your friends closer, and your corporate holdings by the balls.
Chris,
According to this, their stock is a buy!!!!!
Tom G.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intrepid-potash-ipi-stock-undervalued-131001170.html
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On our departure, Thursday afternoon, Don Campo (""race engineer"" here) and meself wanted a nice memory shot next to the historic sign...
It was already gone and we were greeted by little stumps sticking out of the block
This bland one was put on the other side...
Photo by Linda's daughter...
Linda's retiring as well, we kissed her farewell and still hope to see her if we ever return...
(https://i.imgur.com/5nIYSNZ.jpg)
Patrick
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Speaking of SpeedWeek stuff that's got forgot -- Salt Talks t-shirts are available. You can see the art on the home page of this site. I made a batch and sold some at the salt and have more to sell. I use the proceeds to keep the site going so dig deep, please.
Here's what I'll do: Shirts are $20 each. I have sizes M - L - XL - 2XL. Probably no more than 10-15 of any size, so be ready for me to say that I don't have any remaining in your size*. I can cram 3 or 4 shirts into a single Priority mail envelope so shipping is about $8 per 3 or 4 shirts. I might be able to make a simple order button, but you're welcome to PM/email and I'll get started. Payment by Payoal on the buttons on the site is fine, and I'll also take Apple Pay or checks or cash.
* Yes, I can make more since I do them in my shop, but I'd have to order more blank shirts, and to make that work I'll wait 'til there's a quantity of 'em that I need to get.
Want some previous-year shirts? $10 each and all I'll promise is to ship the right size - you'll get the first one that I dig out of the stack of that size. But the purchase will help me get a few bucks back from previous years.
Thanks! :clap :clap
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I want to know if BLM gave the other organizations who have sanctioned races at Bonneville a chance to own the sign. What "right" does SCTA have to the sign? Was BMST given the chance to own the sign? Was USFRA asked if they wanted the sign? What about the other event organizers who have events there? There are dozens.
It just seems like incredible ignorance of the BLM to take down the sign with no notice.
Don
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I applaud them for getting rid of the graffiti.
(And i ain't usually on their side.)
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Speaking of SpeedWeek stuff that's got forgot -- Salt Talks t-shirts are available. You can see the art on the home page of this site. I made a batch and sold some at the salt and have more to sell. I use the proceeds to keep the site going so dig deep, please.
Here's what I'll do: Shirts are $20 each. I have sizes M - L - XL - 2XL. Probably no more than 10-15 of any size, so be ready for me to say that I don't have any remaining in your size*. I can cram 3 or 4 shirts into a single Priority mail envelope so shipping is about $8 per 3 or 4 shirts. I might be able to make a simple order button, but you're welcome to PM/email and I'll get started. Payment by Payoal on the buttons on the site is fine, and I'll also take Apple Pay or checks or cash.
* Yes, I can make more since I do them in my shop, but I'd have to order more blank shirts, and to make that work I'll wait 'til there's a quantity of 'em that I need to get.
Want some previous-year shirts? $10 each and all I'll promise is to ship the right size - you'll get the first one that I dig out of the stack of that size. But the purchase will help me get a few bucks back from previous years.
Thanks! :clap :clap
Jon I am good for 2 XLs.
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What about the other event organizers who have events there? There are dozens.
Dozens?
* SCTA
* BMST
* USFRA
* Mike Cook
That is it. Not "dozens".
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I want to know if BLM gave the other organizations who have sanctioned races at Bonneville a chance to own the sign. What "right" does SCTA have to the sign? Was BMST given the chance to own the sign? Was USFRA asked if they wanted the sign? What about the other event organizers who have events there? There are dozens.
It just seems like incredible ignorance of the BLM to take down the sign with no notice.
Don
SCTA/BNI has the most racers and spectators and two races a year.
JL222
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Yes dozens! Don't be so narrow minded to think we are the only ones using the BSF. There are rocketry events, archery events, flight events, several commercial filming events, movies, etc. SCTA's Speedweek may be the biggest attendance, but that does not mean they own the salt flats. BLM said they are donating the sign to the Land Speed Racing Museum. Where's that?
Don
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Why should archery or rocketry fans be the recipient of the "Bonneville International Speedway" sign, which contains references to Ab Jenkins, et.al.
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I want to know if BLM gave the other organizations who have sanctioned races at Bonneville a chance to own the sign. What "right" does SCTA have to the sign? Was BMST given the chance to own the sign? Was USFRA asked if they wanted the sign? What about the other event organizers who have events there? There are dozens.
It just seems like incredible ignorance of the BLM to take down the sign with no notice.
Don
Perhaps the SCTA has the most lengthy history with the flats and they are putting it in a museum?
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BLM said they are donating the sign to the Land Speed Racing Museum. Where's that?
Don
To be built in Wendover is what I heard.
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Your donations would be very welcome to get this built...
https://www.facebook.com/Bonneville-Speedway-Museum-235952389788686/ (https://www.facebook.com/Bonneville-Speedway-Museum-235952389788686/)
http://www.museumsusa.org/museums/info/8744 (http://www.museumsusa.org/museums/info/8744)
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=8649.0 (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=8649.0)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7380139,-114.0262326,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su3E9osi46g315PWxdGiA_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7380139,-114.0262326,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su3E9osi46g315PWxdGiA_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
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Maybe we should donate to get another sign
because now not only is there no museum....... there also is no sign
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All this $hit over a sign.......are you kidding me? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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This is what the BLM post on FB;
Have you ever seen the iconic sign with the stickers all over it at the entryway of the Bonneville Salt Flats? Do not be alarmed when it?s not there on your next visit. BLM removed this sign today and are working to replace it with a new one. BLM is working with the Southern California Timing Association to allow them to curate it in their BSF museum.
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67955095_2588885494477101_5406153151692668928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeHcX4ZYRdY2kOLjf5Ifsmy5Ey7m1EQXJnprzLQcGwMVqH3QOQ2t4k7bPq4ofp23QLXvdgbj2wvkWziXliXYYNK34A8tildJax0dRq9MyoX7gg&_nc_oc=AQk0ruS2CVJIpb0tSfSj3ElVTMnEQs9DwSdSL4_lv5bfu_ObyV5FUWR-MJGHGJ3HH1E&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=1c7ff6ff8751ca876e845d27db32a29b&oe=5E112F90)
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68984654_2588885531143764_8487611200945782784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_eui2=AeFKfQheRsf4mAGqBw5yxA1SQHtG1pjAB08j6wq3XtFFVpezw46YbA9ZRnp3AqZebIrnZ1fzmQ2khyTQalgpeNPajDiFFbyChUAmnxRwyl9Prw&_nc_oc=AQnxCgH20kas__HzeOScI0an48lOiGDcwgjd2ZBNPQVc-Gq1IqkOTqbSl2_9tSfaneI&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=4fd7f3792cff166923e91e079f2abcd0&oe=5E0A82EF)
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not just a sign ....... an iconic sign.
Really, think about how many pics of that sign have been taken over the years,
and how many people visiting the salt have been denied the opprotunity to ever be able to take their picture.
And all because of the self serving actions of a few inconsiderate people.
Sure, maybe it was becoming time to replace the sign, but it certainly didn't have to be done in the
middle of racing season.
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Everyone needs to pay attention to the facts. The SCTA KNEW that the BLM was removing the sign and when. Go bitch to them about this.
:dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse:
Let's get back to talking about the flippin' racing...
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I included the scta officials who knew as part of the 'self serving inconsiderate people" mentioned above.
Acknowledge it or not.......It was a bad decision to selfishly take the sign knowing that so many more people would be coming to the salt before it was replaced.
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Speaking of SpeedWeek stuff that's got forgot -- Salt Talks t-shirts are available. You can see the art on the home page of this site. I made a batch and sold some at the salt and have more to sell. I use the proceeds to keep the site going so dig deep, please.
Here's what I'll do: Shirts are $20 each. I have sizes M - L - XL - 2XL. Probably no more than 10-15 of any size, so be ready for me to say that I don't have any remaining in your size*. I can cram 3 or 4 shirts into a single Priority mail envelope so shipping is about $8 per 3 or 4 shirts. I might be able to make a simple order button, but you're welcome to PM/email and I'll get started. Payment by Payoal on the buttons on the site is fine, and I'll also take Apple Pay or checks or cash.
* Yes, I can make more since I do them in my shop, but I'd have to order more blank shirts, and to make that work I'll wait 'til there's a quantity of 'em that I need to get.
Want some previous-year shirts? $10 each and all I'll promise is to ship the right size - you'll get the first one that I dig out of the stack of that size. But the purchase will help me get a few bucks back from previous years.
Thanks! :clap :clap
Jon,
Good for a couple XXL "Doc Phoenix" shirts here. Check for the shirts, shipping, plus a little extra for the site is underway via USPS.
A big thanks for all you and Nancy do to keep the LSR family connected.
Ed
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The mock outrage is thick in here...
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I wonder what happened to the "REAL" sign that was stolen a few years back?
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No one seems concerned about why they got rid of that graffiti-ridden sign that was a disgrace to everyone who defaced it. I don't think they took it down to pisz all of you off. I think they took it down because it looked like shitt.
It would probably still be there if not for the assholes who defaced it.
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Stan, a wordsmith of the highest order. Eloquently stated 8-)
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Trimmers, RidgeRunner and Wheelrdealer -- I got your orders and will mail 'em tomorrow. Who else wants shirts? I have lots of 'em and the site needs to convert them into $$, please. $20 each plus about $8 for shipping ( I can cram up to four in one envelope).
Thanks.
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The SCTA/BNI did the very best with what they had to work with. It wasn't a stellar meet, but it wasn't because they didn't try.
At least they cleared the area of a large, obnoxious obstruction. My congratulations on that one.
Here's a biased outlook at the 17 motorcycle records, which represent 68% of the 25 records set . . .
Only 3 of 17 MC records were over 100 MPH.
Over half of them (9) could have been set on the roads leading to the flats without breaking the speed limit.
A total of 6 of the 17 MC records, or 35%, were Open -- meaning they had to make two complete runs at any MPH.
I'm with you all hoping for a great World Finals this year. I'm betting it will surpass SpeedWeek. I applaud all the tireless workers who did the best they could at SpeedWeek and congratulate the leadership on their accomplishments.
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Stan Back said: "At least they cleared the area of a large, obnoxious obstruction. My congratulations on that one."
Stan, you're cruel!!! :evil: :evil:
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I wonder if whoever the scta caretaker of the "large, obnoxious obstruction" is has it proudly on display in their private collection yet?
or possibly on the wall of their race shop? (yeah, tell me you wouldn't)
In as horrible of condition as that sign is.....
I'm curious as to why anyone would want to put such a badly vandalized eyesore into a museum.
Maybe they are planning to restore it first. :wink:
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gowing, I think Stan was talking about a DIFFERENT large, obnoxious obstruction . . . .
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I'm thinking some are thinking of 2 different objects. Took me an overnight to "get it" :-D
:evil: or not, :cheers: Stan
Ed
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gowing, I think Stan was talking about a DIFFERENT large, obnoxious obstruction . . . .
yes, I get it now and humbly stand corrected.
kinda funny tho - 1drink
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:cheers:
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I am a little slow on the uptake but I too, finally ?got it?. An apt description for both objects, especially for the one first removed.
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Holy camoli,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :clap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I just got that one to...................... :cheers:....LMFAO.
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Are the rest of us supposed to be able to "get it"?
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Jack,
PM sent.
Ed
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Jack, I would like to know how you managed quotation marks on this thread? When I try, all I see are question marks.
John
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"??"
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Are the rest of us supposed to be able to "get it"?
Hint... starts with a V ends with y. A speed reference. :-D
Good job :cheers:
JL222
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Maybe I'm the only one that doesnt get it??
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For the sake of it -- that last "clue" send me off in a different direction in trying to figure out the joke. And the heck of it is --
The joke started with Stan and me and we oughta know, shouldn't we? That clue leaves me stumped. muutt
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Maybe I'm the only one that doesnt get it??
female
jl222
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A term for how fast an object is moving.
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A former cable TV channel - now under a magazine's name.
Jeff in Boise
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Well I get it, and I'm totally appalled lol8 lol8
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Thanks to PJ for letting me in on the story. Now I get it. :clap :clap
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Dam you guys are funny..............Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as MC Hammer says,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, " U Can't Touch This"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NNYI8VbFyY
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Wait, what happened? cromag
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I needed the v...y clue to get it brilliant!!!!!LOL