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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: Mangold on February 04, 2019, 11:44:08 PM

Title: Rookie Question
Post by: Mangold on February 04, 2019, 11:44:08 PM
Am I understanding the El Mirage rookie orientation booklet correctly that a rookie is a rookie for an entire meet (rather than for a specified number of runs), and therefore can't run against records until their second meet? 
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: mtiberio on February 05, 2019, 10:48:56 AM
I had a great deal of road racing experience (18 years, 4 years as AMA Pro), and thought I could run a record pace during my rookie weekend (2 day). I was told I could get "special" consideration by having a yellow sticker on my bike (put there at tech inspection) and mentioning it to the starting official. What I didn't know was that this was going to make the race director follow me down the track in his car. Add to that I had "issues" during my first run. After my run, a clearly annoyed race director climbed out of his car, came over to my bike and ripped the sticker off my fender while mumbling something about how I took too long to turn out. No non-rookie license for me. 8^)) As it is I ended up coming .7 MPH short of the record (minimum actually) the next day and I knew I could get the record during the next meet which I did.

What did I learn,
1) my road racing experience did nothing to prepare me for racing on dried mud.
2) most SCTA procedures are distilled over time and there are reasons for them.

Now maybe if you have Bonneville experience you may not find El Mirage daunting.
What my first run was like:

I was racing a bike I had run in AMA Pro-Twins 25 years earlier, but in the ensuing 25 years I had broken my left ankle.
Not having run the bike in anger, I didn't realize that my injury made it tough to shift.
I missed the shift into fifth, and then proceeded to lift my entire leg to upshift, missing 5th again.
Having time to over think my conversion of my old road racer into an LSR weapon, I removed seat foam to shift my weight back for more "traction". Stupid in hindsight as it made it even harder to shift.
The leg angle issue together with the fact that now I was hanging onto the clipons with all my weight rather than having the seat foam support my weight meant that every motion of my leg to try to get the bike into 5th caused a mini-speed wobble/tank slapper.
Add to that my inexperience, which had me looking down at big black lines (rubber laid by cars) and thinking "I'm going at a low angle to ruts, I'm going to get into a tank slapper and die".
In reality they were not ruts (as revealed by a track walk), I survived, but i really didn't deserve a license at that point.

Maybe you do, no harm in trying. YMMV
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Mangold on February 05, 2019, 11:10:57 AM
Thanks for your reply.  I've thankfully worked through some of those early issues through 9 runs at Speed Week this year, but still have plenty of learning to do!  I don't know if I'm worthy of "special consideration" and was really asking more from the perspective of planning the race season.  Though, I certainly wouldn't complain if the powers that be let me run against a record (minimum) in May  :-D.   
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: mtiberio on February 05, 2019, 01:22:07 PM
Well my experience is that El Mirage HorsePower (ie, tail wind) is highest during the first 3 event, and the prevailing wind can turn around into a headwind or completely go away for the last 3 events of the year.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: John Noonan on February 05, 2019, 05:51:17 PM
Well my experience is that El Mirage HorsePower (ie, tail wind) is highest during the first 3 event, and the prevailing wind can turn around into a headwind or completely go away for the last 3 events of the year.

I guess you never heard of November Horsepower?
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Glen on February 05, 2019, 08:49:07 PM
You will have to License up at Elmo as well.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Mangold on February 05, 2019, 09:32:11 PM
You will have to License up at Elmo as well.

I understand that I'll need to license up, just wondering about when I'll be able to run against a record.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: mtiberio on February 05, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
Well my experience is that El Mirage HorsePower (ie, tail wind) is highest during the first 3 event, and the prevailing wind can turn around into a headwind or completely go away for the last 3 events of the year.

I guess you never heard of November Horsepower?

I will defer to he of greater experience, but in my humble 2 Novembers at Elmo, tailwind was not something I experienced. Now we had a bad side wind this last November, enough to cause cancellation. But it wasn't a tail.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: deepindebt on March 13, 2019, 01:11:12 PM
Confirming that entries are purchased at the event?
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Dynoroom on March 13, 2019, 01:50:17 PM
Confirming that entries are purchased at the event?

Yes
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: deepindebt on March 13, 2019, 02:56:16 PM
Thank you sir
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on March 14, 2019, 09:52:06 AM
Looking at your avatar - wouldn't you prefer spins around the vertical axis?  :-o :-D
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Stainless1 on March 14, 2019, 10:29:12 AM
Aussies?  :-o  :roll:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: dw230 on March 14, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
Must be.

DW
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: deepindebt on March 14, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
 :-D :-D I tried over and over to get the pic right side up with no luck :xLeft it up just for this reason,open door for ribbing.But hey,I am a roadster driver so that could be part of the problem :-D
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Stan Back on March 14, 2019, 01:27:25 PM
"I tried over and over to get the pic right side up with no luck"

Just try one over, that oughta work.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: deepindebt on April 01, 2019, 03:08:34 PM
I heard through social media that the lake bed may not open until May sometime?This could affect the May meet I would imagine?
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: mtiberio on April 02, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
https://www.facebook.com/FriendsofElMirage/

"Due to damage caused by the amount of rain we received this season and the safety issues the damage poses, the lakebed will not open until May."

At the last Sidewinders meeting, Lonnie said the lake was in the worst shape he had ever seen. Huge trenches/gullies from the flow of water as I understand.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Happy Pappy on April 02, 2019, 08:25:46 PM
 I have been watching this for awhile now (live about 35 miles away), it's not going to get any better without some human intervention.
Hopefully the powers that be talk with the George Callaway & crew, not only do they live there but they have been there a long time & have a pretty good handle on what to do.
From what I have been told is that the water level below the surface has dropped a significant amount causing these crevices to form, then the rain, true / false I dunno?
We'll see... Time is getting short. If anything is done at all my guess is it's going to be a patch job if anything at all. Guess it's in the hands of The BLM.

Chris

 
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: mtiberio on April 10, 2019, 09:52:25 AM
https://www.facebook.com/FriendsofElMirage/

"Due to damage caused by the amount of rain we received this season and the safety issues the damage poses, the lakebed will not open until May."

At the last Sidewinders meeting, Lonnie said the lake was in the worst shape he had ever seen. Huge trenches/gullies from the flow of water as I understand.

Seems the "closure" notice may have been an Aprils fools joke. It is now open with a caveat that crews are repairing damage.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: deepindebt on April 10, 2019, 01:17:35 PM
 8-)