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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: Kool Performance on October 06, 2018, 09:37:12 PM
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We are extremely excited to announce that THE 2018 ECTA RACING SEASON WILL CONTINUE! On November 10 and 11 we will be holding one more race this season. We will announce further details in the very near future. Join us for another Arkansas 1-Mile Challenge and conquer the concrete mile.
Registrations opens Monday ECTAMile.com
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Hopefully by then the soybeans will be harvested....
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Registration is now open go to https://ecta.raceday.pro/
4 Wheel brakes are required on all cars. (streamliners can run 2 wheel brakes)
If you have a World finals tech sticker you will receive expedited tech.
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Let's see the logic in this . . .
Streamliners are usually the fastest class. They usually have less air drag so they are harder to stop. So let's just allow them to have only 2-wheel brakes.
Hint to Altered, Roadster, Comp. Coupe, etc. entrants who have only 2-wheel brakes –– just move up a category or two and enter as a Streamliner. I understand that no one checks (as long as the check is good).
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Let's see the logic in this . . .
Streamliners are usually the fastest class. They usually have less air drag so they are harder to stop. So let's just allow them to have only 2-wheel brakes.
Hint to Altered, Roadster, Comp. Coupe, etc. entrants who have only 2-wheel brakes –– just move up a category or two and enter as a Streamliner. I understand that no one checks (as long as the check is good).
Stan great idea now I can run my rear engine modified roadster with rear brakes and dual chutes boy I was hoping one day to do this now I can excellent. Streamliner valve in block record :-D should be easy for my car. :cheers:
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Hope they meet 90 entry minimum.
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Hey.....at least it is a place to race if you do not live on the left coast!
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I look almost every day . Seems to be stuck at 50. Need some more!
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Decision has been made WE ARE RACING
forecast is for 50 degree weather, can you say big horsepower.
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Hey RonnieRoad –
Me thinks you could qualify for Special Construction any who. Lakester at the least. You can't have any automotive body parts (or something like that) – and your body should qualify. It's not a steel T, is it?
Stan
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Hey RonnieRoad –
Me thinks you could qualify for Special Construction any who. Lakester at the least. You can't have any automotive body parts (or something like that) – and your body should qualify. It's not a steel T, is it?
Stan
Good point car should qualify for the special construction category the body is fiberglass I can add rear fenders and now its a streamliner something to think about. :cheers:
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Should be great conditions .. best to all !
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Before the September meet I saw a list of those pre-registered. Out of curiosity I was wondering how many were pre-registered for the November 10-11 meet, but didn't find a list anywhere. I live about 2 Hr. from Blytheville and would come down to watch and support the ECTA through my spectator fee, but given the rather "cool" temperature in the forecast I really don't want to make the drive and freeze my butt off if the number of competitors isn't very good. By very good, I mean 50+ cars....similar to June and Sept.
Anyone???? Thanks!
Lynn
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Having attended Blytheville on Saturday, Nov. 10, I'm wondering a bit about the future of LSR racing at venues like Blytheville, or anywhere close to the Midwest. Granted, it was cold and rather windy but the car/motorcycle count was really low.
I don't ask this to cast doubt on the sport, or plant a negative seed, but rather in an effort to help make a decision. I have been a car guy most of my life, enjoy building things and have considered building a car for LSR; probably a lakester to run in one of the lower displacement, unblown gas classes.
I'd hate to spend months/years building a car and end up with nowhere to race without an extremely l-o-n-g trip to Bonneville. The decision to build a car for LSR, or perhaps just build another hot rod, is quite a commitment and I'm trying to weigh the enjoyment potential of either.
Perhaps Saturday's low attendance was just a fluke? I was also at Blytheville in June and September and the car and motorcycle count was probably more in the 50-ish range.
Input and thoughts, anyone?
Lynn
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Lynn, this is an outdoor sport... sometimes Mom Nature does not cooperate.... just the way it works... Most purpose built Bonneville land speed cars are not good Mile cars... for us it is that finality of where the track stops and gearing to run such a short distance.
Small normally aspirated lakesters need space to accelerate the weight at which they must be built to maintain safety. You don't show where you are from, but I travel 1200 miles to Bonneville several times a year. Yes, to answer your question, we have run on pavement with our land speed bikes, but never considered it with the small motor lakester....
I see LandSpeed Racing as Bonneville... Half mile, and mile racing is an opportunity for folks to use and test their machines... that is a good thing... but class records seem to come and go with the location of the track...
Lack of participation at an event with predicted poor weather is nothing new... I would not drive the 500 miles to Blytheville, Denver or Texas if the weather was in question.... But I have driven... or started to drive 1200 to race Bonneville.... before cell phones and the internet you would find out when you got there... since then I have received calls 200-500 miles from home to be told the races were cancelled.
If you want to build a lakester to race Bonneville it is a commitment.... I am in the middle of one right now.... if you think it is too long of a drive you may not have the same feelings as say the guy building a G in England, or the guys from Japan or NZ that come to race Bonneville. If Bonneville goes away due to strip mining, I will be going to Australia to race...
Build to race where you want to... and go race... :cheers:
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Thanks for the reply. You make a lot of very good points and give me many things to think about and evaluate about my level of interest and commitment. When I first attended Blytheville in June, my initial thought was to make some runs with my stock '89 Corvette. That might still be a way for me to participate at some level, rather than constructing a purpose built race car. Honestly, I don't know that at 66 years old the desire burns nearly high enough in me, as it apparently burns inside you and others. I don't see that as particularly bad, but it is reality.
I wish you well and thank you for your thoughtful reply.
Lynn
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I think you can race every paved mile with your stock car.... and Bonneville :-o USFRA 130 Club can get you a salt fix. It's not easy, but you are still young, so go for it... get out there and race.
When you decide you want to go 200, build or buy someone's project, make it yours and go race...
the general theme here is.... yep you guessed it....
GO RACING
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Having attended Blytheville on Saturday, Nov. 10 ... it was cold and rather windy but the car/motorcycle count was really low.
Yep, those two things are directly proportionate.
My initial thought was to make some runs with my stock '89 Corvette.
The ECTA used to have a rule about plastic and fiberglass bodied cars requiring a roll bar / cage, but not sure about that now, since Steve took over. Anybody ?
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At 76 my desire has cooled some but when I can find someone to go play in the shop with I still go---at 66 I was eaten up desire for hats and to go 300+ yes most of B'ville guys have a sick adiction
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Some just call it a carcain addiction! :-o :-D
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"The ECTA used to have a rule about plastic and fiberglass bodied cars requiring a roll bar / cage, but not sure about that now, since Steve took over. Anybody ?"
I talked with ECTA at the September meet about a possible classification to run the 'Vette. They pointed out a couple classes but I don't have my notes here to mention what they are. They were aware I was asking about a 'Vette in particular, so I guess it occurred to them that it's a fiberglass car.
Running the 'Vette instead of thinking of building a purpose-built car might prove to be a win-win. I get to race something at some level, and my high mileage (almost 200K) 'Vette will get more love in order to get it ready. I guess the first meet next year will be around April like it was this year, so I have some time to work in some tweaking/tuning on the 'Vette through the Winter.
BTW...I did look over the USFRA street car info and it sounds like a good program to go fast and do it legally. In reading the report on the website by a rookie participant it's apparent it isn't just so easy to go 130 in the mile. I've always been skeptical, at best, about those "good-'ol-boys" stories that include, "We were doin' about 140 MPH last Saturday night.....blah, blah" but now I'm even more convinced they're BS. :-D
Lynn
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I've always been skeptical, at best, about those "good-'ol-boys" stories that include, "We were doin' about 140 MPH last Saturday night.....blah, blah" but now I'm even more convinced they're BS. :-D
Lynn
BS... Never :cheers:
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Running the 'Vette instead of thinking of building a purpose-built car might prove to be a win-win.
Yes, that is what I would recommend, before you jump into it with both feet. The published performance numbers for your 245 hp '89 includes 0-100 mph in 14.42 secs., so I believe you will be able to get to 130 mph in a mile. Your largest hurtle is overcoming the limitations of your Tuned Port Injection feature.
The easiest way to race, is to run in the Time Only (TO) category, where you get to race just like everyone else and get a time slip, you just are not in competition against the other racers, nor qualifying for class records. It's basically for having FUN !
If you believe you are competitive enough, did you look at the Super Stock C/GSS class in the Street Category ?
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I've always been skeptical, at best, about those "good-'ol-boys" stories that include, "We were doin' about 140 MPH last Saturday night.....blah, blah" but now I'm even more convinced they're BS. :-D
Lynn
My common response to those stories (about how fast the dude went, yada-yada) is to ask if they got the numbers off the speedometer or a GPS.
That usually ends serious discussion and gets it back to 100% BS. :cheers:
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I've always been skeptical, at best, about those "good-'ol-boys" stories that include, "We were doin' about 140 MPH last Saturday night.....blah, blah" but now I'm even more convinced they're BS. :-D
Lynn
BS... Never :cheers:
Usually those 140's and such were not generated from a stop one mile back, they'd been going for a long time to get there. My '64 GTO wouldn't rev beyond 56-5700 in any gear. Gears/tires were 60 at 2500 right on. Number of times the speedo was pointing straight down where there were no numbers and 120 was over by about 330-400 O/C and the tach pegged too. Maybe 135. Flashing lights way back in the mirror occasionally too...…. :roll: :evil:
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I've always been skeptical, at best, about those "good-'ol-boys" stories that include, "We were doin' about 140 MPH last Saturday night.....blah, blah" but now I'm even more convinced they're BS. :-D
Lynn
BS... Never :cheers:
Usually those 140's and such were not generated from a stop one mile back, they'd been going for a long time to get there. My '64 GTO wouldn't rev beyond 56-5700 in any gear. Gears/tires were 60 at 2500 right on. Number of times the speedo was pointing straight down where there were no numbers and 120 was over by about 330-400 O/C and the tach pegged too. Maybe 135. Flashing lights way back in the mirror occasionally too...…. :roll: :evil:
I would think the guy with the flashing lights could tell you your actual speed :cheers:
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I've always been skeptical, at best, about those "good-'ol-boys" stories that include, "We were doin' about 140 MPH last Saturday night.....blah, blah" but now I'm even more convinced they're BS. :-D
Lynn
BS... Never :cheers:
Usually those 140's and such were not generated from a stop one mile back, they'd been going for a long time to get there. My '64 GTO wouldn't rev beyond 56-5700 in any gear. Gears/tires were 60 at 2500 right on. Number of times the speedo was pointing straight down where there were no numbers and 120 was over by about 330-400 O/C and the tach pegged too. Maybe 135. Flashing lights way back in the mirror occasionally too...…. :roll: :evil:
I would think the guy with the flashing lights could tell you your actual speed :cheers:
He did not catch us...... :cheers:
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Hi Lake Harley
The ECTA Production "Grand Touring Sport" class specifically lists the Corvette as being eligible (5.E.3 on page 56), along with the Fiero.
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Thanks again, everyone for the suggestions. My 'Vette is in "automatic transmission purgatory" right now. I am capable of doing most work on my cars but automatic transmissions is not on the list of things I even have the desire to work on. I guess I'll consider getting the transmission taken care of my first step in prepping for next year.
Apparently I'm not the only one who is suspicious of the high-speed Saturday night runs that get reported. I'm sure it has been done, including jacksoni's report, but I doubt it's as common as the stories.
Lynn
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My 'Vette is in "automatic transmission purgatory" right now.
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