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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => SpeedWeek 2018 => Topic started by: kustombrad on August 18, 2018, 03:04:56 PM
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It was an epic battle up until the carnage started...
https://roundsixpod.com/2018/08/18/the-battle-to-be-the-fastest-on-gas/
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Nice! :cheers:
Thank you.
Mike
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Congrats to both :cheers:
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Cracks me up... now one of the fastest gasoline streamliners is an "E"......
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Didn't the Summers Bros. run pump gas in the Goldenrod, back in the 409mph days?
I might be mistaken . . .
Willi
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Didn't the Summers Bros. run pump gas in the Goldenrod, back in the 409mph days?
I might be mistaken . . .
Willi
No gas classes in the '60s?
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Infidel went over 400 during an FIA meet even though it was only one way. He is still the fastest in my opinion until someone can beat that with a one or two way average.
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Infidel went over 400 during an FIA meet even though it was only one way. He is still the fastest in my opinion until someone can beat that with a one or two way average.
Fastest gas record around 356 mph? I don't think he was still running gas when went over 400 mph in 2010.
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I thought Spectre did go over 4 with the 472 inch Cad, on gas.
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I think you're right about Spectre topping 400, but as I recall that was at the Shootout, rather than Speedweek, World of Speed, or World Finals.
In FIA-sanctioned meets, there are no separate classes for gas or fuel. They're all lumped together, so there's no way of telling what they were actually using.
The fastest "gas" record currently in the rulebook for SCTA-BNI was set by Spirit of Rett (AA/GS) back in 2009 at 368.136. Spectre still has the A/BGS record of 356.645 from 2010.
So, it looks like the bragging rights for "gas" now belong to Costella-Yacoucci-Waters with their new 384.657 record.
Jeff in Boise
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Rick is now the fastest at speedweek. I am the fastest at El Mirage. So far I have two passes on this car at speedweek, a qualifier and a return run. I lost the water pump belt at the beginning of the back up run and melted a head. This is a very new car with lots of untapped potential still. I am pretty confident that when I am up and running you will see the real difference between and E motor and a B with 4 whd.
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Speeking of Spectre? Where have they been?
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licking their "knock off" wounds
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Rick is now the fastest at speedweek. I am the fastest at El Mirage. So far I have two passes on this car at speedweek, a qualifier and a return run. I lost the water pump belt at the beginning of the back up run and melted a head. This is a very new car with lots of untapped potential still. I am pretty confident that when I am up and running you will see the real difference between and E motor and a B with 4 whd.
Although you may not have been the fastest gas car at Speedweek this year, you guys definitely had the koolest push truck and "transporter".
Jeff in Boise
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Yeah, it would be pretty hard to out style Eddie. :mrgreen:
Sid.
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Rick is now the fastest at speedweek. I am the fastest at El Mirage. So far I have two passes on this car at speedweek, a qualifier and a return run. I lost the water pump belt at the beginning of the back up run and melted a head. This is a very new car with lots of untapped potential still. I am pretty confident that when I am up and running you will see the real difference between and E motor and a B with 4 whd.
Yea Ed it will be fun to see how our cars compare after we get our problems sorted. we have the power way turned down right now..
we are still in testing mode.
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All I ask is if I go faster give credit when and where it is due. This time you were claiming fastest mile on gas when your speed was still slower than mine. Even after pointing it out on Facebook no correction was made or credit given, not cool. All we have at the end of the day is bragging rights.
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All I ask is if I go faster give credit when and where it is due. This time you were claiming fastest mile on gas when your speed was still slower than mine. Even after pointing it out on Facebook no correction was made or credit given, not cool. All we have at the end of the day is bragging rights.
Ed you show me where "I" made any bullshit claim and I will fix it.
Anyone who knows me knows that's not my style.
you were faster than me for one day.
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You shared a post on your page that made that claim. That is the same as you making the claim. I replied to it and pointed it out. I just checked and it is still there at the time of this post. Perfect opportunity to make a correction or give some kudos. You did neither and left the link on your page. I didn't see where you made a post on the original pointing out the mistake either. So yes for one day you could have showed some respect. By the way did you forward that top speed award to Bob Dalton? You don't want to start making a habit of this stuff.... Just saying. Share the love!
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Amir is regrouping after his costly battle in with K&N. You can't keep him down. He's got some new projects going and the old Infidel (Spectre) streamliner will run again. He was frustrated to not be able to mix it up this year. He still holds the A and AA/BGS Bonneville records. At the FAI race he averaged 409 on a 406 Al Teague record running on gas. He needed 410 due to the 1% rule which has since been repealed, I suspect his failure to get the record was the driving force.
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Won't let me cut and paste. Claim was originally made on White Goose Bar's page. Your team right? Then you shared it.
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You shared a post on your page that made that claim. That is the same as you making the claim. I replied to it and pointed it out. I just checked and it is still there at the time of this post. Perfect opportunity to make a correction or give some kudos. You did neither and left the link on your page. I didn't see where you made a post on the original pointing out the mistake either. So yes for one day you could have showed some respect. By the way did you forward that top speed award to Bob Dalton? You don't want to start making a habit of this stuff.... Just saying. Share the love!
Yea I see the mistake but I didn't write it nor do I fact check everything I share. so I sorry that someone made a mistake I will try and correct it. I'm just now getting around to reading the thousands of posts on facebook.
Now you digging up the Dalton fiasco shows what a classy dude you are. the trophy is sitting in a closet I told the SCTA I didn't want what I didn't earn and dalton didn't earn it because he disobeyed what he was told and the run was thrown out. the SCTA did what they had to do or else everyone would disobey. I feel bad for dalton but he screwed up and I cought a bunch of shit for it, not really cool!
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So you made a mistake and I politely called you out on it. You had an opportunity to correct it First you deny then when faced with the unavoidable facts you capitulate but I am classless for not letting you get away with it. Right.... okay I think we all know where we stand. Don’t pull shady stuff and you won’t get called on it. Honest mistakes are easily righted.
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Rick
You ARE the one who took it to the board..
"I feel bad for dalton but he screwed up and I cought a bunch of Subaru for it, not really cool!"
And as You said.." Don't hold back for me" (you were talking about speed) I didn't... lol
But that's over..
Congrats to both "gas" cars.. and the records set.
Gas is good stuff... we squirt some in to the Nitro Breathing Monster before we light it..
Now if I can just stop the belts from breaking..
Anyway...
Good Luck Guys
bob
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WTF?
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Ya gotta stay in play to keep up JD. Drama, drama, drama
DW
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JD, I wasn't there either and wondered too.
I think it's kind of like (I think Neal Armstrong) telling kind of a joke about the moon. Few if anybody laughed. He shrugged his shoulders and quipped "I guess you just had to be there".
Ron
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Rick
You ARE the one who took it to the board..
"I feel bad for dalton but he screwed up and I cought a bunch of Subaru for it, not really cool!"
And as You said.." Don't hold back for me" (you were talking about speed) I didn't... lol
But that's over..
Congrats to both "gas" cars.. and the records set.
Gas is good stuff... we squirt some in to the Nitro Breathing Monster before we light it..
Now if I can just stop the belts from breaking..
Anyway...
Good Luck Guys
bob
The 222 Camaro has had a lot of problems with belts over the years because of centrifugal blower manufactures design. Not enough
step up in internal gearing and having to use a small pulley on blower with a big one on crank to get blowers spinning fast enough to get decent boost. Mostly shredding but breaking sometimes. Our Pro Charger has a lot of internal step up and we can use a large pulley on top. We only lost one belt in several years
but we now tighten the crap out of the belt.
Anyhow do you think bigger pulleys top and bottom might help? Same ratio, just more teeth and diameter
JL222
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Which has brought great shame to the entire Berry family :cheers:
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Yeah, Dan... I Guess being "there" isn't really being...THERE.
and being the first at anything doesn't mean diddlysquwat to anyone else but the person who did it especially the next day.. Who remembers the first GMC powered gas/fuel roadster over 200...only one guy...
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Yeah, Dan... I Guess being "there" isn't really being...THERE.
and being the first at anything doesn't mean diddlysquwat to anyone else but the person who did it especially the next day.. Who remembers the first GMC powered gas/fuel roadster over 200...only one guy...
Not true Jimmy!! I still tell of watching you reset the 200 + record after your son(s?) first set it and you did it with only high gear!!!
Rex
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not true JD :cheers:
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This has nothing to do with being the first to do anything. At least not for me. But Mickey Thompson being the first American to go 400, yah I think some people may remember that, and there are plenty more. Being a slow guy in a fast class means I will always be a page two story and thats okay.
For most of us Bonneville comes down to personal accomplishment. If you are doing it thinking you are going to impress someone else (especially with a record that has to have four astericks behind to qualify), you will be very disappointed. Let's be honest all "records" are not created equal. So other than personal accomplishment all we can really hope for is the respect and appreciation of our fellow racers. They share in our struggles and can relate to what we had to go through to get that record.
My personal goal for some time has been to go 400. Now along the way I was hoping to earn a blue hat etc. Being the fastest car in the world on gas was never really on my radar. If anything it may just be a side bar on the way to over 400 for me personally. However to see someone else laying claim to an honor that you realized you had just earned... is kinda a bummer. It was actually a surprise because as far as I knew Infidel had that honor. Then suddenly there is a short article written about a battle you didn't even know you were in. It quotes one participants highest speed (an exit speed) and your average speed much slower than the actual pass the car made. What in reality was a 4 mph difference is presented as a 30 mph difference. I am referencing the fastest Mile as opposed to the records or exits because that was the inaccurate claim mentioned prior. My friend Donnie set a record at El Mirage where he got his Maroon hat. It was beat about an hour later and he was already on the road home. Would have sucked if he didn't get his hat or recognition because the record only stood for an hour.
I will probably never be a contender for a real big deal, like the Hot Rod trophy etc. So I am just trying to accomplish what I can on my own talent, in a car I designed, built, tune, drive and funded. I have spent time in other classes all the time planning for the day when I built my streamliner. Rick called me so hopefully we have put this to rest. Going forward I am only trying to go for that new personal best. Even getting over 400 (in anything) puts you in a very exclusive club and is something to be very proud of regardless of records. I am really glad that Flashpoint and the Carbinite guys both got that honor this year. We probably have more high potential cars running now than at any point prior. I received some of best compliments I could hope for when i got calls from several guys I hold in very high regards telling me they were impressed with my performance with a new car. So blue hat, a pretty respectable record and a car that is still just at the beginning of its potentials... Yah I am good with that!
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Well said Eddie.
From one of the **fastest unblown gas lakester teams, with 2-4 barrels and a 4 speed** :-D
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with the hardest luck
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I run GAS. I went 239.47. Fastest I've been. I'm fast and having fun doing it. I didn't read all the post. SCAATY is A/BGCC. It's all fun. See you next year. FASTER!!!
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and......crickets.....lol
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and......crickets.....lol
:-D :-D :-D
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Well...…
Fastest gas "car" not streamliner, opens the door for interpretation.... :-D