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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => World of Speed-specific stuff => Topic started by: Tom Liberatore on June 10, 2017, 01:30:07 AM

Title: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Tom Liberatore on June 10, 2017, 01:30:07 AM
Someone has to start this and Porkpie has had the banner for months! :-D
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Sumner on June 10, 2017, 09:30:23 AM
https://www.saltflats.com/2017/Test-N-Tune/Salt-report2017.htm

 :cheers: :cheers:

Sumner
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: dw230 on June 10, 2017, 11:09:48 AM
This is good news. I generally use a scheduled Test and Tune to judge if the salt will be good for a Speed Week event.

Good luck to attendees for a for a fast and safe meet,
DW
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Tom Liberatore on June 29, 2017, 06:35:59 PM
Hey Porkpie, are you coming to the TnT? If so, we'll bring you a sausage, pepperoni of course!
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: PorkPie on June 30, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
Hey Porkpie, are you coming to the TnT? If so, we'll bring you a sausage, pepperoni of course!
Tom,

I can't be there.....this season I will show up at the Speedweek, World of Speed and Shootout....that's it....too much trouble at home....


but thanks for asking....maybe World of Speed? if you be there, again.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: GW on July 07, 2017, 05:50:41 PM
Any updates from July 7?
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: DallasV on July 07, 2017, 06:16:03 PM
just a quick text from my pops out there said Strasburg's ran like 307 testing a new wing on the lakester and bikes are hot lapping. that's all I have but I'm going out tomorrow for the day and will post anything I deem exciting.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: rouse on July 07, 2017, 07:27:57 PM
Sounds like something is happening.

Rouse
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Tom Liberatore on July 07, 2017, 09:29:23 PM
Pretty dinky meet, some folks have left due to the course conditions, lots of bike runs, one guy with a Ducati Supermotard lapped it all day. Plenty hot, over 100, keeping activities to a minimum. The Salt Flats Cafe is now pink and doing a great business, I don't think the move to town hurt them. The Speedway Cafe at the truck stop is now an Indian restaurant, haven't tried it yet.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: joea on July 07, 2017, 10:29:38 PM
Tom etal, thanks for updates...!

Dallas, look forward to yours...

Joe
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: RichFox on July 07, 2017, 10:51:31 PM
Did Bob Dalton stay there? Has he run?
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: GW on July 07, 2017, 10:56:17 PM
"some folks have left due to the course conditions"... please elaborate.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Tom Liberatore on July 08, 2017, 12:30:24 AM
I don't think Bob Dalton is here, is that Flashpoint? My main observation is the pits were a lot smaller this evening than this morning. As for the course conditions, I've heard that it is pretty rough in the first two miles and soft after that. Maybe someone that has actually driven it could chime in.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Tom Liberatore on July 08, 2017, 12:56:10 AM
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Pepperoni-Bros-Racing-188071971603863/photos/?tab=album&album_id=300391073705285
This is a link to the Pepperoni Brothers test and tune photos.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: woz on July 08, 2017, 09:25:39 AM
On one of the last of your FB pictures (in the circular lens view) I see what I believe is a FWD Cutlass painted like police car.  Does anyone have any info on it? I'm building a 2000 Eldorado and would like to speak to owner.       Thank, Woz
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Tom Liberatore on July 08, 2017, 06:04:21 PM
The 911 Cop Cutlass was from San Diego and had racelegal.com written all over it.
 Bob Dalton was here and made one pass this morning, I think the speed was 263 or 268.
 The meet pretty much pooped out and they called it around 3pm. This was the smallest speed meet that I have ever been too. The USFRA as usual did a great job, but they sure don't have much salt to work with.
I ran into TR who was scouting out a course for the Motorcycle Speed Trials, pretty slim pickings if you are looking for a long course, he was thinking that they might have to start down closer to the freeway.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: woz on July 08, 2017, 09:22:04 PM
Thank you for the Cutlass information, and the updates on the conditions, etc.  Much appreciated! 
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 09, 2017, 12:02:56 AM
I believe the Cutlass is the old Jim Feuling car, I didn't eyeball it up close but it's still sounds like a quad-4. I don't think 260 is a likely speed.
USFRA are doing a great job as usual but you can't build a silk purse out of a sow's ear, the salt is ruuuuff but the bikes are doing laps.

It seemed hotter than usual & I wondered if it was just me being a five time recipient of the heat-stroke award but then checking the salt I found it was warm, not cool like it used to be.
  Sid.
 
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: SPARKY on July 09, 2017, 09:22:22 AM
sounds like we need to be looking for a new place to race this one has been mined out of existence!
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: jww36 on July 09, 2017, 09:59:14 AM
For what it's worth, I ran at the Test & Tune. The good news, no standing water and we had salt. The bad news, course was rough, especially for un-sprung car.
 I want to start a new blog about COURSE PREP.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Sequim Jim on July 09, 2017, 11:02:35 AM
From what I gather, the salt is bad to horrible.
Everybody knows I'm a rookie entered in the MPS-BF 1000cc (entry 324). If Speed Week moves forward, what is the LSR communities advice to a rookie riding for the first time, in these conditions?
Is it worth sending my tires to Nate if the speeds are reduced because of the wash board effect?
How should I balance my bike?
Should I focus on getting through tech this year and wait for real racing next year?
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 09, 2017, 11:08:43 AM
If you go up on the hill you can see where all the water went & as I said earlier the salt is warm so it's not able to hold the moisture like it used to. The brine dirt is also warm to the touch but still damp & there's bugs out there like I've never seen before including grasshoppers! I had one hanging out in the van & thought it had hitched a ride but then realized they were many in numbers as were the small flies & some tiny little beetle thingies. It's a changing ecosystem out there for sure.
  Sid.  
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 09, 2017, 11:09:57 AM
From what I gather, the salt is bad to horrible.
Everybody knows I'm a rookie entered in the MPS-BF 1000cc (entry 324). If Speed Week moves forward, what is the LSR communities advice to a rookie riding for the first time, in these conditions?
Is it worth sending my tires to Nate if the speeds are reduced because of the wash board effect?
How should I balance my bike?
Should I focus on getting through tech this year and wait for real racing next year?

The production type bikes seemed to be handling the conditions better than the cars & you could here the difference down the course. Don't hold your breath waiting for better conditions, you need to get it while you can.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: RichFox on July 09, 2017, 11:11:56 AM
That's good if you believe next year will be better. My thought would be go with the idea this may be your last chance. We all hope next year will be great. And if it is, what have you lost by trying this year? Ask questions of those who have run the course. Work up as you get comfortable. All stuff you already know. But I would not pin my hopes on "Next Year".
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Sequim Jim on July 09, 2017, 11:22:47 AM
Would it be wise to switch bikes for this season?
I have a FJR1300 with traction control. I rode it on Harley's test track in Yucca and hit 168. I've ridden it for years on soft 3/4- pea gravel and learned to drift it at 100 mph. I'm very comfortable on it and can handle most situations.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: RichFox on July 09, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
Up to you. Which are you more comfortable with? Can you take both and chose after getting a look at the course? talking to riders who have made a run? Might cause you to delay going through tech for a day or less.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Sequim Jim on July 09, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
I can take both. The FJR is predictable. My 600 hp R1, that I have almost zero time on, is not.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: maj on July 09, 2017, 07:36:13 PM
I am still planning the turbo bikes for BMST ,
Jim if you need seat time this is one of the few chances you get both for experiance and setup on that bike

eze into it , its no longer about how fast you can potentially go but how fast you can go in the conditions at hand
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: SPARKY on July 09, 2017, 10:37:04 PM
 :cheers:  sad but O so true!!!
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Sequim Jim on July 10, 2017, 07:47:11 AM
I received a note from somebody on Facebook at attended the Test and Tune. He said the first mile was rough for the bikes, but mile two was great. Very encouraging!
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Buickguy3 on July 11, 2017, 09:04:41 AM
   Some of us old guys are running out of time to "wait 'til next year". We will have to take the hand that's dealt. Don't think most of us can afford Bolivia or a trip down under unless the IRS becomes a major event sponsor.
    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 11, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
Hey Doug, I believe Hwy 93 through Montello is still closed due to the washout & I-15 has construction going on through ID & UT with delay/parking. You might want to run it at night to save your sanity.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Buickguy3 on July 11, 2017, 04:49:23 PM
  We come down through Twin Falls and stay in Jackpot then to Wells. Wonder how the construction is there.
  Doug
Title: Re: Test N Tune 2017
Post by: Freud on July 12, 2017, 01:09:49 AM
Marlo came that route over this past weekend.

I'll ask him about the construction.

FREUD