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Title: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 20, 2017, 06:41:33 PM
Well?  Let's hear what's going on, what happened, and so on.  Hope someone checks in here with details and pics.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Dynoroom on May 20, 2017, 07:37:56 PM
They shut down about an hour early due to poor course conditions. They did not even get through the 1st round.
They will move the track for tomorrow.
Top time thus far is 251 from the Ferguson streamliner.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: gkabbt on May 21, 2017, 12:03:48 AM
As usual from me, got details and lots of pics!
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: RansomT on May 21, 2017, 08:04:56 AM
As usual from me, got details and lots of pics!


 :cheers:
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: mtkawboy on May 21, 2017, 12:32:29 PM
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPb7GNRykxHTsH9d4xSriNbX5Sqns1i6GdypIp85pzRWjc125BeIKv53Lt_eUmPZg?key=MkFKckpJYmZwWlI1OVpsQmgyOUJFZHNCZjNYWU1R
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Stan Back on May 21, 2017, 02:31:21 PM
I gotta almost all-white page with some pushbuttons or something on it.  Is there a secret sequence?

This intranet thing has me cornfused.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 21, 2017, 02:37:48 PM
I gotta almost all-white page with some pushbuttons or something on it.  Is there a secret sequence?

This intranet thing has me cornfused.

Great pictures, including one of a roadster with a relocated fuel tank.  :wink:

Sorry, Jim . . . couldn't resist . . .
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Stan Back on May 21, 2017, 08:03:30 PM
How do you get there from here?

(Really!)
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Stan Back on May 21, 2017, 08:14:11 PM
I heard there was a photo in circulation.

(Or was it of the roadster circulating?)
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: jdincau on May 21, 2017, 08:54:11 PM
662 car on our second pass with the Tex t-101 trans with straight cut gears and dog shifters. Listen to the spur gears whine and the shifts are clutchless and clean. 152 Sat. 156 Sun. still rich and spinning the tires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnMGpptszyk
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: SPARKY on May 21, 2017, 09:53:07 PM
We look forward to some of that Jim
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 22, 2017, 12:36:14 AM
662 car on our second pass with the Tex t-101 trans with straight cut gears and dog shifters. Listen to the spur gears whine and the shifts are clutchless and clean. 152 Sat. 156 Sun. still rich and spinning the tires.


It sounds like a Waring blender making margaritas - and there's nothin' wrong with that. 

I still say it's the prettiest little roadster I've ever seen actually racing.   

Wayno - did you finally get around to crackin' it open this time, or are you still sneaking up on it?
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: jdincau on May 22, 2017, 07:59:42 AM
Wane had oil pressure problems.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: NathanStewart on May 22, 2017, 02:18:17 PM
Jim, your first run sounded fantastic.  Sounded like some pedaling on the second run.  I was just glad it didn't go around.  Not insinuating that it would or has a tendency to but the course was so bad and roadsters being roadster... well, you know.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Frankie7799 on May 22, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
Made my second ever pass in my RMR yesterday. Being that when I ran at the meet in October I wasn't a club member I got 0 points so my starting position over the weekend was horrid. I was one of the many poor souls who didn't get to run Saturday. Fortunately I got to run yesterday morning before the track got too torn up. Ran 153 mph. Was supposed to keep it under 150 to get my D license but got a little distracted on my shifts. Jill Shannon signed off on the pass after I explained myself. Went and found Dan Warner and he wound up giving me a C license. Wasn't going to argue with the Mayor. Im still planning on working my way up to higher speeds at the next couple of meets though.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Stan Back on May 22, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
We had a little difficulty with the course . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfWTgyTDiAM&sns=em
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Stan Back on May 22, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
I think we made some of the track's in Jim's video . . . or maybe we made some ourselves.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: jdincau on May 22, 2017, 03:37:20 PM
Jim, your first run sounded fantastic.  Sounded like some pedaling on the second run.  I was just glad it didn't go around.  Not insinuating that it would or has a tendency to but the course was so bad and roadsters being roadster... well, you know.
Nathan, Tony said it required his attention but he never felt it was getting out of hand. To quote "it has been a lot worse". We were only spinning the tires 6 mph in the lights.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: jdincau on May 22, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
We had a little difficulty with the course . . .
I knew you had spun but I wasn't going to rat on you.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Stan Back on May 22, 2017, 03:46:32 PM
Come on, Nathan, 'fess up.  I was just talking to your dad on another matter . . .
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Frankie7799 on May 22, 2017, 03:48:28 PM
Id much rather spin than keep my foot in it through the lights, the shut down area and out the back door
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Guardrail on May 22, 2017, 03:59:47 PM
Id much rather spin than keep my foot in it through the lights, the shut down area and out the back door

 Seemed to work for me...
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: LSR Mike on May 22, 2017, 04:13:07 PM
Hey Stan, been there Done that!!! :-D
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: SPARKY on May 22, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
beats locking them up and blowing out the tires for sure  :-D
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Frankie7799 on May 22, 2017, 04:30:38 PM
Id much rather spin than keep my foot in it through the lights, the shut down area and out the back door

 Seemed to work for me...

What spinning or keeping your foot in it?
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Guardrail on May 22, 2017, 05:09:05 PM
Id much rather spin than keep my foot in it through the lights, the shut down area and out the back door

 Seemed to work for me...

What spinning or keeping your foot in it?

See video above.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Frankie7799 on May 22, 2017, 05:18:00 PM
Id much rather spin than keep my foot in it through the lights, the shut down area and out the back door

 Seemed to work for me...

What spinning or keeping your foot in it?

See video above.

I wasn't sure if you were Willie or not. Yeah I'd say spinning worked out for you. Unlike the guy in the modified roadster who went out the back door and then some
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Skip Pipes on May 22, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Nathan was drifting, trying to dust of the track for those who followed  :evil:
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: interested bystander on May 22, 2017, 07:54:07 PM
     

     Pretty close to a ten, I'd say.

     Looks a bit more dramatic than the "turn out" the announcer told the crewman when he asked for the time slip!
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: SPARKY on May 23, 2017, 12:06:09 AM
on second look it seems more like a case of circular braking to me  :-D
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Jack Gifford on May 23, 2017, 01:42:51 AM
Anybody willing to skip the jive-talk and help this newbie understand what I'm seeing after repeatedly playing/pausing the video?
1> It appears that the course is darn close to the pits? [Yes, telephoto lens effect; I just wonder about the actual distance?]
2> For the whole time the roadster is moving backward, is the engine spinning the wheels forward?
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Guardrail on May 23, 2017, 09:22:51 AM
Anybody willing to skip the jive-talk and help this newbie understand what I'm seeing after repeatedly playing/pausing the video?
1> It appears that the course is darn close to the pits? [Yes, telephoto lens effect; I just wonder about the actual distance?]
2> For the whole time the roadster is moving backward, is the engine spinning the wheels forward?

 You're right about the telephoto lens - looks are deceiving. The course is 90ft. wide and is approx. 250 ft. from the spectators. As for the engine driving the wheels, I pushed in the clutch the moment the car started to come around. I hope this helps.
Willie "Guardrail" Martin
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: jl222 on May 23, 2017, 12:13:27 PM


   Why didn't you brake at some point?  How did you know what direction you were heading going backwards?

              JL222
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Guardrail on May 23, 2017, 03:10:24 PM


   Why didn't you brake at some point?  How did you know what direction you were heading going backwards?

              JL222

 I did brake after everything calmed down - trying not to hurt anything. I figured I was going the right direction when I was backing up from the return road. I'm no world class driver, just one who has seen a few things.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: ronnieroadster on May 23, 2017, 03:39:20 PM


   Why didn't you brake at some point?  How did you know what direction you were heading going backwards?

              JL222

 I did brake after everything calmed down - trying not to hurt anything. I figured I was going the right direction when I was backing up from the return road. I'm no world class driver, just one who has seen a few things.



Having experienced a spin myself at just over 170 some time back {not on dirt} watching your execution on controlling the car as your rolling backward was dam near perfect. No need to apply brakes and cause some other unneeded coarse direction. Well done the way I see it.    :cheers:
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: SPARKY on May 24, 2017, 12:11:41 AM
 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Jack Gifford on May 24, 2017, 01:30:47 AM
Good job. Thanks for explaining.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: mtiberio on May 24, 2017, 07:28:04 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to John Wiley for the youtube video from down course...

I'm on his vid at 18:18 for my first rookie run...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSXb1p7Vo8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSXb1p7Vo8)
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: tauruck on May 24, 2017, 08:21:35 AM


   Why didn't you brake at some point?  How did you know what direction you were heading going backwards?

              JL222

 I did brake after everything calmed down - trying not to hurt anything. I figured I was going the right direction when I was backing up from the return road. I'm no world class driver, just one who has seen a few things.

You saved the rubber. That was a pro job IMO. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Nicely done.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Guardrail on May 24, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
 Thank you all for your kind words.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: tauruck on May 24, 2017, 09:33:30 AM
No problem. Hope you all had a great time. :cheers:

Mike.
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: NathanStewart on May 24, 2017, 10:31:19 AM
Yup, I'd say your spin roll out was great.  I saw you shooting off to the side of the course and thought 'uh oh, this is going to be bad' and then you just turned and let it roll out in a circle.  I thought that was an excellent move. 

And yeah, I spun.  Unfortunately the car doesn't seem to tolerate a less than perfect course.  Went 216.683 in October on a good course and then spun at 200 on my second run due to chewed up course (25mph cross wind probably didn't help either).  The course was horrible this event and I spun on my first run - right at 200 again.  Didn't bother making a second run.  I think if we have any hopes of making a decent run this year it'll be after adding significant weight to the car.  Until that happens, we'll be sitting out. 

Good luck to those who will attempt to run fast at Elmo.  I think the results of this past meet are indicative of what we'll be seeing all year.  I'm actually hoping we get some spring/summer rain to try and maybe fix the lake bed up some.   
Title: Re: El Mirage May 2017
Post by: Eddieschopshop on May 25, 2017, 07:33:12 PM
Yah Nathan, I think you are right.  this is what it will be all year.  I was dissappointed with the power I could apply till I saw what everyone else was doing.  Made me feel a little better,  but doesn't speak well for any potential "big" runs this year.