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Fundraising, For sale, and Wanted => For Sale by Private Parties => Topic started by: SteveM on April 26, 2017, 04:03:52 PM
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Background - the company I work for is a significant producer of saw blades and related processing equipment. We make tens of millions of feet of saw stock every year.
The time has come for us to get out of the hole saw manufacturing and sales business. As a result, we have approximately 17,000 hole saws, ranging in size from 5/8" to 6" diameter, which we are selling for $2 each - any size, any quantity. We are completely getting out of this business.
These are genuine Made in the USA hole saws, by genuine Americans right here in Pevely, Missouri. Bi-Metal hole saws and Carbide tipped hole saws. They were made for some pretty big names (Matco, Simonds, Metabo, etc) in the cutting tool industry. Some have "private label" branding, others are unbranded.
There are hole saw "Kits" for plumbers, electricians, maintenance, and "Journeyman" kits available at slightly higher prices.
Here's a direct link to our direct-to-consumer website featuring the hole saws:
http://www.sawbladeexpress.com/ProductListing.aspx?CatId=c99cfe4d-df45-40b8-a8cc-49e370177476
The prices listed on the page are $2.35 each, with a 15% discount code on the home page for www.sawbladeexpress.com
There are a lot of uses for hole saws when it comes to LSR activities and fabrication.
It may take a few days to get large orders processed and shipped, as each order has to be gathered by hand from our warehouse.
Thank you for taking a look,
Steve.
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For those of you who might be navigating in through the main page, all the hole saws are listed in the "Fine Woodworking" category. (Please don't ask me why).
Steve.
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You can bet I'll check out out that sale.
Thanks for the heads up.
Rouse
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You can bet I'll check out out that sale.
Thanks for the heads up.
Rouse
Thanks. I believe it's free shipping on all orders over $50, as well. (Disclaimer - I'm not in charge of web sales, just trying to jump-start some of the inventory clearout).
Steve.
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I'll have to get someone to freight forward for me as they won't do int.shipping...I'm after a journeyman set, good price.
Don?
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I'll have to get someone to freight forward for me as they won't do int.shipping...I'm after a journeyman set, good price.
Don?
Are you coming to the States this year? I am sure you can get someone to hold it for you if you are...
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I'll have to get someone to freight forward for me as they won't do int.shipping...I'm after a journeyman set, good price.
Don?
Sure.
Do you need it before October?
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Thanks for posting this Steve!
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I'll have to get someone to freight forward for me as they won't do int.shipping...I'm after a journeyman set, good price.
Don?
Sure.
Do you need it before October?
PM me your postal address, do you want one> they're pretty cheap and if you're anything like me you'll have a set....and half of 'em will be missing teeth....
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Thanks Steve.
The way they are listed "Woodworking" and the description "including soft metal" makes me wonder if they are rated for mild steel?
I suspect they will work fine, but wanted to make sure.
Jim
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They are great for mild steel. Perfect, in fact for most of the things we would use them for on a race car (tube notching, cutting holes for plumbing, exhaust, etc).
The "Bi Metal" hole saws have a tool steel tip and alloy steel backer.
Steve.
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I just talked to the guy who runs our direct-to-consumer website.
The response to this offer has been fantastic!!! :cheers:
Some folks have placed VERY large orders for hole saws, which is very good news.
We only have one person who runs the website and fills the orders (He goes by John L. if you decide to call in). It will take some time to get these orders all sorted out, so I ask anyone who placed an order to please be patient.
John will contact you via email regarding your orders as they are filled.
Thanks again,
Steve.
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I wonder if the response has been so fantastic that your boss will decide what a great thing it'd be to donate a batch or kit or selection of these saws to the Salt Talks raffle/auction. . .?
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Great idea, Slim!
I don't need my boss' permission for that. I'm on it!
I'll go over and grab some complete kits for donation.
Where shall I send them?
Steve.
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Steve, You're one of the Good Guys. Thank you.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Steve, You're one of the Good Guys. Thank you.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Thank you. Just don't let my wife find out.
Steve.
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Hi Steve,
I have tried to put an order in for carbide Hole saws about 5 times and each time I get timed out on the computer. I called a phone number I found and a nice Lady transferred me to John L.'s voicemail. I left a message last Friday, but have not got a call back, at least no voice message on my machine. I just sent an email to ask how I can purchase what I need with the problems I am having with the timed out on the server.
Any help appreciated,
Tom G.
PM me if that is better for you.
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Tom:
Sorry for the problems. I'll try not to sound like I'm making excuses.... but there are a couple of things working against us right now.
The first is that we have a new website under development to address some of the glitches (i.e. being timed out to create an account).
We are also experiencing massive flooding conditions across several counties right now, which is affecting our business and employee's ability to make it to and from work. Essentially, as of tonight, we will be "cut off" from all access to St Louis County, Franklin County, Washington County, Reynolds County, and probably a few others. This is the second "500 year flood" we have seen in the last 2 years. All the interstates, smaller highways, etc. which cross the Meremac River (which feeds into the Mississippi river a few miles from our plant) will be closed, possibly until the weekend. We are in Jefferson County, MO - which is about to become an island.
It's entirely likely that John L will not be able to make it to the plant for the rest of the week. The only viable path is to drive about 120 miles South, cross the Mississippi river near Sikeston, then drive back north 120 miles through Illinois to cross the Mississippi again. Folks who "need" to make that journey will be clogging the highways, I'm sure.
Please send me a PM with the hole saws you are looking for. I'll do my best to grab them tomorrow and set them aside for your order.
For everyone else, I'll just have to ask for your patience until the flood waters recede and we can resume normal business.
Thank you,
Steve.
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For anyone interested, here's a map of all the road closings due to current flooding in Missouri:
:-o
http://traveler.modot.org/map/
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Wholly shitt!
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Best of luck there, Steve. I wish you could send us some of that water.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Tom:
Sorry for the problems. I'll try not to sound like I'm making excuses.... but there are a couple of things working against us right now.
The first is that we have a new website under development to address some of the glitches (i.e. being timed out to create an account).
We are also experiencing massive flooding conditions across several counties right now, which is affecting our business and employee's ability to make it to and from work.
Thank you,
Steve.
Steve,
Thank you for the response and offer, much appreciated. I had no idea what kind of weather was going on back there, and after looking at the map, the most important thing right now is that everyone stays safe.
John replied to my email and I sent you a PM. Thanks again for your help. Who do I contact in the company to give you some at a boys for going above the call of duty?
Thanks again and stay safe.
Tom G.
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Hi Steve,
Just received my hole saw order. I ordered all carbide saws. All were supplied in bi-metallic.
I'm wondering if the carbides were all sold out?
I'm not complaining @ 2.35 each. Just wondering.
Thanks for letting us know about this deal.
:cheers:
Mark
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How did you people order carbide-tipped hole saws? I saw nothing but bi-metal saws on the website- at least on the pages that were linked in the original post.
Oops! I see that the website DOES list carbide-tipped hole saws. [I'd delete this post, but don't know how?]
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Hi Steve,
Just received my hole saw order. I ordered all carbide saws. All were supplied in bi-metallic.
I'm wondering if the carbides were all sold out?
I'm not complaining @ 2.35 each. Just wondering.
Thanks for letting us know about this deal.
:cheers:
Mark
Mark: Sorry about that problem with your order. John L told me that he would contact any customers whose orders could not be filled completely and offer substitutes where the original item was not available, but it's not like him to have filled an order with the wrong items.
Side note - what color are the hole saws you received? All the CT saws should be black.
The Bi-Metal saws were produced in various colors for different companies over the years, but most of them will be either white or red.
Double-Side-Note. It's raining here again, with predictions for 2-3 more inches of rain. All major roads out of the county are closed.
It's like a Johnny Cash song over here.
Steve.
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Johnny Cash song -- like the bad hemorrhoid song he sang -- "Burning Ring of Fire"?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdD3skrH3k
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Hi Steve,
Just received my hole saw order. I ordered all carbide saws. All were supplied in bi-metallic.
I'm wondering if the carbides were all sold out?
I'm not complaining @ 2.35 each. Just wondering.
Thanks for letting us know about this deal.
:cheers:
Mark
Mark: Sorry about that problem with your order. John L told me that he would contact any customers whose orders could not be filled completely and offer substitutes where the original item was not available, but it's not like him to have filled an order with the wrong items.
Side note - what color are the hole saws you received? All the CT saws should be black.
The Bi-Metal saws were produced in various colors for different companies over the years, but most of them will be either white or red.
Double-Side-Note. It's raining here again, with predictions for 2-3 more inches of rain. All major roads out of the county are closed.
It's like a Johnny Cash song over here.
Steve.
Hi Steve,
Yeah, all the saws are white, most are in boxes labeled Bi-metallic.
Sorry about your over abundance of di-hydrogen oxide.
Should I contact John L? I'd rather have the carbides if they can be obtained, but I don't want to be a PITA either.
Please advise.
:cheers:
Mark
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Yes - let's put this back in John L's court.
I want to make sure that he manages all this kind of stuff. If we have the CT saws, we will get them shipped out.
You can keep the white ones, either way.
Steve.
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just received my order of CT (black) saws and a couple of arbors...as ordered. hell'va deal. thanks steve.
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Mine just got here a little after 8PM. thanks UPS. Definitely carbide tipped and looking good.Tomorrow morning I am going to punch some holes that I don't need just to try them out. Never had carbide tipped hole saws before.
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Rich, go slow they don't like speed.
Don
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Neither do the bimetal I have always used. I just put the Bridgeport on the lowest speed and go for it. Should be educational, at least. Anybody that thinks they could use some hole saws, these look nice and the price is giving them away. I'll post tomorrow how they work.
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A long time ago I tried some carbide tipped hole saw blades for notching tubing in the mill and I went back to the bimetal blades. The carbides didn't seem to like the interrupted cuts. The bimetal blades seem to last really well with mist coolant and moderate speeds.
Pete
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Glad to hear that shipments are arriving. :cheers:
The floodwaters around here are receding, and most of the main highways have opened back up, so normal commerce can once again be conducted.
As far as "Giving them away" - yes, that's close to what we are doing with all this inventory. We have given up on hole saw manufacturing, as it's no longer part of our core business. That's a sad truth, but the times have changed, and the processes we used are no longer competitive with highly automated lines, many of which are not located in this country.
Every hole saw we are shipping is genuine Made-In-USA, by genuine USA citizens. They may be marked with any number of recognizable names, and some have had the "MADE IN USA" tooling ground off, as they were for overseas customers who didn't want them to say Made In USA for some reason.
If anyone is interested in buying the entire production line, raw materials, tooling, punch presses, paint line, and related intellectual property, we can make you a screaming hot deal on the whole setup. Just think - You could go into production making all the hole saws you could ever want.
Steve.
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I tried a 1 7/16 carbide tip saw in a rusty .150 or so piece of steel '56 Chevy pickup frame. Ran it dry at 80 RPM. Cut like butter, almost, nice round on size hole with a pretty good finish. tried the 3 7/8 cutter also at 80 RPM. Slowest my machine will go. Cutting .041 half hard copper also dry. Which is what I wanted it for. Again worked just as I hoped. I say again. If you think you may want some hole saws someday. $2.35 you will never see anything like this again. Thanks Steve.
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Thank you Steve...Berry Fabrication will do it`s part to deplete the inventory :cheers:
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I just ordered a journeyman's set along with a 3" & 4" for good measure. 8-)
Now I have a set at my shop & at home.
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Also placed as large a PN order as the site would accommodate before freezing up. I'll outsmart it and figure out how to order the additional sized.
Skip Pipes
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I'll be happy when all the stock is gone. That will mean that we have recaptured at least some of the value that was written off the books.
Along the way, I just hope we don't upset some customers when we don't have what they are looking for.
The SBE website sucks - plain and simple. It doesn't have "live" inventory tracking, so it relies on a person to update quantities as orders are filled.
That kind of thing can result in wrong quantities being displayed as "in stock", when they may not actually be available.
In the very near future, SBE will have a completely new website, much easier to use, and with real-time inventory controls. Setting up an account will require nothing more than a user name and password (no more complex ship-to address problems, etc)
Big Thanks to everyone who is helping to deplete this inventory.
I have a feeling that we are going to end up with a lot of hole saws in the sizes less than 1". At that point, the prices may be reduced further.
Steve.
I've been trying to buy some but I get a warning that the site isn't secure. I also have to get them sent to someone in the States as there is no international shipping option.
This is not uncommon.
I recently had to buy a Robertshaw thermostat for a Garland gas range which I am refitting for our kitchen. I made various attempts to buy said thermostat over the net and eventually tried calling suppliers in the States. I'm not trying to be impolite but if the US wants to correct their balance of trade then they're going to have to sell things to people overseas and judging by the responses I got that's not going well. The most polite response I got was after they said they would not deal with me and me suggesting I could provide a forwarding address in the US they just hung up without even telling me to f$*% off.
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Doc. G. heck I will buy the hole saws and send them to you just for the wisdom I have gained from reading your build diary!
Steve, the Doctor needs some hole saws.... we have to figure this out.
BR
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I've got Don Jackson on the job, he's coming out here in October with his far better half, problem is buying them..... If I can PayPal Steve that would help...I'm just a little wary of paying by CC on unsecured sites.
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Oh, and I must correct you, "The Doctor WANTS some hole saws".........when it comes to tools wants is much more prevalent than needs.
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James, If you want I'll give it a go on the hole saws for you.
Let me know so we don't double order.
Don
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Steve,
I want you (and everybody else on the board) to know that after contacting John via email, he has come up with a solution that satisfies everybody concerned, regarding my shipment.
Thanks again for making us aware of this super deal.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Mark
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Dr. Goggles, PM sent.
Don
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Steve,
I got the hole saws a couple of days ago. Thank You for everything you did to make my order happen, especially under the extreme weather conditions you were experiencing at the time. Also thank John and Cynthia for their help in making this purchase possible.
Thanks again,
Tom G.
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Received my first order of bi-metal hole saws. They work great. Thanks Steve for posting this.
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Steve, the Care package arrived. Thank you very much. Everybody else: I managed to somehow sweet-talk Steve into getting some of the vaunted hole saws to use as swag for Salt Talks this year. Hey - maybe even before then. Whenever they go -- thank you very much for getting them to me, Steve.
I tried out a couple, just for the heck of it. Great stuff -- managed to cut some "D"-shaped holes in the concrete and a few using the figure-8 one. They work!
Thank you very much.
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I tried out a couple, just for the heck of it. Great stuff -- managed to cut some "D"-shaped holes in the concrete and a few using the figure-8 one. They work!
Thank you very much.
You are much more than welcome, Slim. Regarding those D shaped holes in concrete and the figure 8 hole saws, the forum is going to want some pics, for sure.
Steve.
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I'm at work now -- will see what I can do for those pics later on, k?
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I don't have any figure 8's, but I do have an oblong one. :-D That's why I ordered new arbors.
Thanks Steve.
Ron
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Maybe we could come up with some sort of foolish "Challenge" like the ones that have gone viral on Facebook.
You know... like the ice bucket challenge, the hot pepper challenge, the mouth full of cinnamon challenge, etc....
We can call it the 4" hole saw challenge. I'll donate the hole saws.
Contestants will be put to the task of cutting a 4" hole through a 3/8" thick piece of steel plate, using nothing more than a 1/2" electric drill, a 4" hole saw, and an arbor.
Fastest time wins. Sit back and watch the injuries pile up.
Steve.
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Especially if the steel plate is 5" square and not fastened down.
Ron
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Just for the information of those who want to use a hole saw properly I built my own arbor and mount it in my mill. The material I'm drilling gets put in a proper milling vise or clamped down firmly to the mill table. I generally use either a mist or a flood coolant. The resulting holes are round and precise and if anything, very slightly on the small side. A hole saw when used properly can be a precision tool.
Pete
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I agree with Peter Jack on this one.
When I was notching a lot of tubes, I made a custom arbor to chuck in a lathe, and used plenty of lubricant/coolant.
Another big key to hole saw usage is choosing the proper rpm based on the diameter of the hole saw. There are handy charts available to show the maximum speed recommended for any given size.
Steve.
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Some day soon..time for typing permitted, I will share my " New bench-hand using a drill" story. Priceless comedy . :-o
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Slim...You have one that cuts figure-8`s ???? you can use that for an....infinite number of uses .
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Jerry, only if he cuts them sideways :evil: :cheers:
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Stainless, don't forget that only gravity defines sideways! And we both know there are sometimes supernatural forces at work in the UP! :-o :-D :cheers:
Got my saws and just looking for something to ventilate! :cheers:
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I'm wary of using hole saws but'll give 'em another chance. Last autumn I cut a 4" hole through the garage wall so I could route the exhaust from the generator to outdoors, but the danged saw cut the hole about an inch too low - now I've gotta shim the generator to adjust the height. Buncha extra work - shoulda just used the Husqvarna and a crowbar. :cry:
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An inch too low? And you figure that "shimming" the generator will help? ..... Seems to be a pattern here of operator error... :-P
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Geez, youse guys are a rough audience. Okay - I know that shimming the garage wall would be difficult although it'd probably work to get that hole up to the right altitude. But if "shimming" means to add a little bit (in this case, of height) -- what's the right word for the unshimming that I really need to do?
And anyway, it doesn't matter 'cause you figured out what I meant, right?
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We have built several Buick straight 8 Cylinder heads using a drill press and hole saws. Requires a bit of patience. That's the go to precision tool in our shop.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Received my second order promptly. A couple of large size holesaws and a couple of Journeyman's Kits for sons' birthday presents- maybe won't need to loan them holesaws so often. :-)
Great deal. Thanks!
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I've got Don Jackson on the job, he's coming out here in October with his far better half, problem is buying them..... If I can PayPal Steve that would help...I'm just a little wary of paying by CC on unsecured sites.
Got'em :cheers:
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Received my order today, very satisfied..good looking saws.
Great deal, thanks Steve!
Bill
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Tried several times to place an order but the ship to address is in Canada. Because the shipping cost can't be auto calculated, my order gets stalled and can't be completed. Any suggestion on how to get past this barrier? Thanks.
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Tried several times to place an order but the ship to address is in Canada. Because the shipping cost can't be auto calculated, my order gets stalled and can't be completed. Any suggestion on how to get past this barrier? Thanks.
Sorry about the "International Incident". Best solution is probably to call direct (636)224-0004 and ask for "John L". He handles all the web orders, but can also take and fill phone orders.
Steve.
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Thanks Steve, these are great. Don (Salt 27) dropped over and gave them to me......I just made a smoker out of and old LPG tank, these were super handy. Great quality, great deal.
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You are quite welcome - and we still have about 10,000 hole saws in stock..... $2 each.
Steve.
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I tried to go to the website with the link you provided but it says the website is gone??
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www.sawbladeexpress.com still there for me....
then go to woodworking for hole saw list
Mine are coping with their tasks.... :-D :cheers:
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I can get to the main page but every time I try to get to the hole saw section it gives me a 404 site not there message.
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Same here
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Not Found
The requested URL /fine-woodworking/fine-woodworking-bi-metal-hole-saws.html was not found on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Mike
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It all worked last week, so I checked every link, none are working including the must reset password link on the banner... my guess, server down...
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Sorry guys, web hoster has been FUBAR for 2 or 3 days.
If you prefer to call, the number here is (636)224-0004, and ask for John L.
He's the website guy, who can also serve as the "Phone Order" guy.
Steve
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These are so good we might have to get some more Colonel......
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I was just told that the website is back up and running....
https://www.sawbladeexpress.com/fine-woodworking/fine-woodworking-bi-metal-hole-saws.html
Steve
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These are so good we might have to get some more Colonel......
I wish I had the time and means for Lake Gairdner, would be happy to smuggle them to you. :roll:
Don
Wait a minute, I think Stainless is headed your way.
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......and the website is down again......
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These are so good we might have to get some more Colonel......
I wish I had the time and means for Lake Gairdner, would be happy to smuggle them to you. :roll:
Don
Wait a minute, I think Stainless is headed your way.
Don, last time I checked we only live once, there's still time. :wink:
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What do you need Doc.... I can try to get it here before the 6th.. if they have it
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Wow! Thanks a bunch!
I even bought a meat cutting blade for my H-Freight Bandsaw.
Makes cutting up Polish tube steak into those little horse ovaries rounds a snap!