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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: Sumner on September 20, 2006, 06:46:13 PM
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If anyone is interested I just added a page that documents some of the changes to the Stude prior to Speed Week 2006 ( HERE (http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/hooley/hooley-construction-2006-1.html) ).
c ya,
Sum
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darn nice car, That one and G.Harts are the best of the stus. I have ever seen.I have wondered why most don't use a roof flap.
Terry
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Hooley when are we going to read about your 2013 UPgrades????
bigger motor?
TURBOS ???????????????
Efi ???
Blowthrough !!!!
Wing????
Hooley-----Come on compete for the Fastest Studie Trophy!!!
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Well, last time I talked to Hooley in Ohio, I heard blown BBC!
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Hey Hooley, ain't you from the "show me" State.... come on... show us, what's your plan to win that trophy.... One Run needs some competition
PS Sumner, what going on, got that lakester done yet..
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That subject title popped up, and I thought, "Wow, that's a lot of changes - no wonder we hadn't seen anything on it for a while".
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I don't know Jack about what's going on but Milwaukee Midget you sure have a big spoon out today. :cheers:
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Last I heard is Procharged - intercooled big chevy AA motor. I forget the CID Hooley decided on.
Sumner is still boating - sailing - fishing last I heard. He mentioned small block chevy into his streamliner about 2 yrs ago... nothing yet.
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Boy am I behind on posting what's going on.
Our planes are to put a blown AA motor in the Stude. to see if we can put it in the 260's for a personal goal and maybe a record.
I purchased a 572 BBC [Dart] long block from Bobby Moore that I think was in his Corvette at one time. It is a 4.60 bore with a 4.25 stroke. There are a set of 360 Dart heads that have been worked. The motor had some non critical damage that Reher- Morrision repaired. It is prepped and ready for build. The crank needed some repair. It has been fixed and ready. I need to see what the compression ratio is with what I have before moving on. I am planning on running Fuel class.
I haven't chosen a blower system yet. I have on hand an Enderle Bird catcher on hand for a blower and a 871 BDS that is on the small block. I would need an intake and drive for this. I am also looking at Turbos and Pro- Charger. I have been building a 32 Ford Roadster that has been setting since I started this Land Speed racing. I will jump on the motor the first part of Dec. I want the 32 to be a roller before I do start.
I haven't let moss grow under the wheels of 974. We ran it at the Texas Mile in 2011 and ran the ECTA's Ohio Mile 3 times this summer. Wow it's a HOOT to let one eat for a mile and STOP.
Later Hooley
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Welcome back, Hooley.
It's great to hear from you. We should have known that a racer like you wouldn't have walked away.
If you talk to Sumner tell him HELLO from all of us. I'm certain that one day he too will return.
FREUD
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Thanks FREUD,
I will tell Sum when I talk to him. I need to call him soon.
Retirement slowed me down with both Land Speed and drag racing for a while. Things are working out where I can come back to the salt. Looking forward to be there with my own program.
Your Friend,
Hooley
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I checked the compression ratio with the pistons and rods that came with the block. The were at 10.05 to 1. That is OK for a blower. After checking with BDS about the gas ported pistons I learned that they won't work with a blower. Since a new set of pistons and rods are in order I will try to figure out a good piston and rod length that will work. Is there a good combo that has worked for anyone that they would recommend? For now back to the drawing board.
Hooley
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Hooley I run 6.535 rods with my std 9.8 block lots of off the shelf pistons are available---go to JE's web site and just look around at the bigger bore combos!!
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Thanks Sparky,
That is the length of the rods that were in the block. There isn't a whole set that are usable. I am looking at Howards I beam rods that are rated for over 1,000 HP. While on the same subject I have a better knowledge of the pin oilers you were telling me about. I'll be calling you before long to sharping the little knowledge I have about that.
Next week I'll be going to the IMIS trade show in Indy. I should come home totaly confused but I'll sift through all of it and have a good combo to go with.
The bore looks like it is 4.6250 with .009 piston clearance[on the old pistons]. These are rough measurements.
Stroke is 4.250.
Later,
Hooley
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I am back from the IMIS show in Indy. I am so full of it now [knowledge that is] I have became confused. I talked with Manley about the valves for the Dart 360 heads. They recommended using small block size stems. Any thoughts on this??
I'm starting to gather the parts to assemble the long block. I was hoping to have it done the first part of Jan but now maybe the first of Feb.
Hooley
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Titi. valve stems diameters will scare you---if you have to buy exhaust I would sure do inconel with berilium seats--with valvespring oilers for sure---works wonders for extending valve and valve spring life!!!!
Hooley from what I have been told over and over---we are about to get the biggest grins of our lives---- when we shift into high gear and ramp up the boost----and----and---just grin as we watch the tach needle climb and climb --- heres to the grins :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Thanks Sparky,
I didn't get any valves with the heads so I'll be ordering valves. I sure doubted the smaller size stems. It's good to find out now. I don't think spring oilers will be a problem to install in the valve covers. Doug at Pro-Pans and Top Covers puts them in all the time and would I'm sure would put them in for us. Don't want to starve the top for oil.
I am grinning with anticipation as I write .
Hooley
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Sparky,
I for got to tell you I got to visit with Woody at Indy when I was there.
Hooley
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so did you guys cook up something under the new rules :?
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Sparky,
Sorry about the long time between posts. Woody's knowledge takes a little time for my simple brain to soak it in. It was very interesting.
On another note The 2013 974 Project is under way. I am taking the old engine out and stripping some of the car down.
The block is getting the piston oilers installed and the heads are getting the extra 4 head studs. We're working on cam specs so we can order pistons and rods.
We're going to stretch the front end 24 inches. I will try to load a rendering picture from John K's friend. The fuel tank will be moved to the back, the engine cooling tank will be moved up in front of the engine, and the new ice /water inter cooler will be in the passenger area. It dosen't sound like much, haha
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I have started a 2013 post. Please forward to http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12278.msg213109.html#msg213109
Thank You,
Hooley
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Hey, sir -- would you like me to lock the '06 thread so that while it's still available for viewing -- questions and comments would need to be put on the new ('13) one? Or something like that? I'd only do it to allow you to get all of the queries delivered to your computer in one lump - vs. two. Lemme know.
-9F right now in Skandia, Michigan. What's it like in Okla-homa?
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Jon, that would be wonderful. Thank You
Hooley
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Hooley, I have 12 new in the box Ross pistons 4.500 bore, 4.000 stroke 10.25-1 Comp Ratio, rod length 6.525. also have 12 brand new in the box Brooks alum rods 6.525 . I got these at an estate sale some years back and they are on my shelf collecting dust. I would like a fair offer for both as a set.let me know and we will talk.
Glen
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Glen,
Thank you for offering them them. We are starting with a 4.6+ bore and a 4.250 stroke. ( Dart Block and Callies crank) To get a better rod ratio we will use a .250 long rod. That would have saved us a lot if we could have used it.
Thank you,
Hooley
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Hooley not a problem thanks for the reply and will see you on the salt
:cheers:
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Glen, the 4.500" bore X 4.00" stroke would yield 509 ci, that's what I ran in the #787 Stude.
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I kinda thought there wasn't any hurry to close down this thread. . .
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Glen, the 4.500" bore X 4.00" stroke would yield 509 ci, that's what I ran in the #787 Stude.
They are still for sale for a real fair price
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Glen, That is what we are running a 509. What is a fair price? I have steel 6.535 rods do you need to run alums a little shorter?
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Sparky they were originally bought for a Donovan BBC. I want to sell them together if I can. there are 12 of each new in boxes. I have no use for them. $600.00 for rods and pistons.
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Hooley, You are the man. For someone that told me they were going to slow down sound like to me you are going to go faster.
If there is anything I can do to help let me know.
Your Buddy Donnie.
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Hi Donnie,
Thanks, I have been gonna call you for a while now to see how you are doing. You have been more help than you will ever know. I have some very good friends that make it easy to move forward to more goals.
Your Friend,
Hooley
I almost have the old engine out. This morning I'll take it out and start stretching the frame.
Out to the shop.
Hooley
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Rods and pistons sold