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Title: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: mergatroyd on February 27, 2016, 01:03:47 AM
So, with the new event and records announced... albeit on short notice...

Who is playing?


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: dw230 on February 27, 2016, 12:09:25 PM
Last year was a 10 day notice. This is a eternity.

DW


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: TheBaron on February 27, 2016, 12:45:06 PM
I'd love to go back there…Great track if you have ground clearance and suspension…. With the deadline to register in 3 weeks and my bike and motor completely  apart, I can't risk that large an entry fee with an unproven setup that may or may not be together and running..dang!

Robert
The Baron Race-team


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: sofadriver on February 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PM
I'd love to go back there…Great track if you have ground clearance and suspension…. With the deadline to register in 3 weeks and my bike and motor completely  apart, I can't risk that large an entry fee with an unproven setup that may or may not be together and running..dang!

Robert
The Baron Race-team
So how bumpy is it?


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: TheBaron on February 27, 2016, 08:40:54 PM
There is an intersection where another runway crosses the main runway and if you pick your path there it is not too bad,,Id say about a 2 on a scale of 5

However, if you go through where the most height difference is a low car will scrape and a bike will heave some,,, about a 3 on a scale of 5

The rest of it is a billiard table compared to El Mirage at the finish line…..

My bike is not that fast in the 115 to 120 mph range,,, so another rider or driver should have more to report…

Robert
Baron race team


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: sofadriver on February 27, 2016, 11:27:04 PM
alright.......I'm in.


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: metermatch on February 28, 2016, 12:11:04 AM
I saw the announcement for this race on the SCTA website a couple of days ago.  Kind of a bummer, because according to the Mojave Mile website, the event was sold out about 3 weeks ago....

Does being on a waiting list mean/do any good?

Jeff


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on February 28, 2016, 12:31:17 AM
Jeff, the Mojave Mile organization's event on April 9-10 is sold out.  The SCTA California Mile is April 23-24.

Mike


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: dw230 on February 28, 2016, 12:34:20 PM
This is a SCTA event. You can get the info needed from www.scta-bni.org, not the Mojave website.

DW


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: metermatch on February 28, 2016, 07:46:11 PM
Oops, I didn't realize that there were two different events.  I have to do some quick thinking, but I think I may try to make it to the SCTA event.  Any idea how many entries so far?  Put another way, how much time do I have before it is full?

Thanks,

Jeff


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: metermatch on March 01, 2016, 02:52:28 AM
I just kicked myself in the butt to get my CRX done by entering the California Mile event. My entry receipt said #15 on it, so I assume that is how many entries as of tonight.  It will be a good warm-up for the May El Mirage meet.

Jeff


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: Papi on March 14, 2016, 12:17:18 AM
Folks sorry to be a squeaky wheel, BUT, You have only 6 Days Left to Pre-Reg for the SCTA California Mile before 3/20 or it's not going to happen!

With as bad as our season was last year, we need all the events we can get. Unless we get 70 more Car, Lakester, Streamliner or Motorcycle entries before 3/20 which is in just a 6 days, this event will not be booked. We must have a minimum of 100 Total Entries, and right now we only have 30 booked.  Now, again, this is an Open Record Event in All Classes. That means you have a high chance of setting a record since there are none on the books.

All SCTA and BNI Members may run. If you are not a BNI Member, you may sign up on the links I'm giving below. If you need a pre-inspection or motor sealed, that can also be done before the event at a Chief Inspectors location. Let's do this folks, we may not have very many venues left in the west, and heres your chance to run in April at the first SCTA California Mile held at the Mojave Air and Space Port April 23/24.

Please, click on the link below to Register today before its to late. This Event will either be Approved or Cancelled based on Pre-Reg's. So do it today. http://www.scta-bni.org/2016-scta-mojave-standing-mile.html

Thank You! -Steve "Papi" Chappell, SCTA-BNI Motorcycle Inspector,
San Diego Roadster Club Information Officer


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: pops29 on March 18, 2016, 09:53:25 AM


 Any Good news on registration ???  or is this over


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: metermatch on March 21, 2016, 06:47:05 PM
Wow!  Talk about fast.

I just received my Paypal refund of the $390 for this event ($400 minus the agreed $10 processing for no event) just now.

I guess that means the interest/entry numbers were a long away from any other further discussion.

I kind of thought that with the uncertanity of having to deal with the many potential problems of continued long term use of El Mirage and Bonneville, that promoting another event is So Cal as a back-up would be a good thing.

I hope you guys know what you are doing...

Jeff


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: mergatroyd on March 21, 2016, 10:40:27 PM
I know the two trips thing was a problem for me.  Plus, impound only once... that means you have to gamble on what your fastest speed will be before it breaks or something.  Plus I would have needed front brakes.  I have them, but I can't install them without designing a new rear brake solution.


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: vintageracecar on March 22, 2016, 02:17:55 AM
I know the two trips thing was a problem for me.  Plus, impound only once... that means you have to gamble on what your fastest speed will be before it breaks or something.  Plus I would have needed front brakes.  I have them, but I can't install them without designing a new rear brake solution.

Well, not quite sure what "Two Trip Thing" you are referring to. Why make two trips? Show up, get inspected, engine sealed if you would want to run on a record, run until you know that's about the best you can do,
get certified in impound before you go home or come back for Elmo next month.. Impound only once, yes. We were planing on 100 entries. How would you want to certify 100 records x 2, x 3..in one weekend. Got to be somewhat realistic.
Where does it say you needed Front Brakes on your bike. We've ran a dozen bikes w/o Front Brakes during the Mojave Mile event in August.
Guess you should have asked some more questions. 


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: mergatroyd on March 22, 2016, 09:36:44 AM
I know the two trips thing was a problem for me.  Plus, impound only once... that means you have to gamble on what your fastest speed will be before it breaks or something.  Plus I would have needed front brakes.  I have them, but I can't install them without designing a new rear brake solution.

Well, not quite sure what "Two Trip Thing" you are referring to. Why make two trips? Show up, get inspected, engine sealed if you would want to run on a record, run until you know that's about the best you can do,
get certified in impound before you go home or come back for Elmo next month.. Impound only once, yes. We were planing on 100 entries. How would you want to certify 100 records x 2, x 3..in one weekend. Got to be somewhat realistic.
Where does it say you needed Front Brakes on your bike. We've ran a dozen bikes w/o Front Brakes during the Mojave Mile event in August.
Guess you should have asked some more questions. 
I guess I should have asked more questions.  I thought engine inspection was not part of the process, and I had to get it inspected either before the event or after the event up to the next El Mirage meet.  Even if I can get it inspected in SoCal, that's still an extra weekend trip of 800+ miles for me. I don't go to El Mirage events because an ~1800 mile round trip for one or two runs is just not cost effective for me.

I didn't realize there was no requirement for front brakes.  I think I have a requirement for them on asphalt even if the rules don't.  My hard-tail also will not pass Mojave Mile tech, will a link-type pass for SCTA asphalt events?

I understand the limitation on impound time. Neither of my bikes are in that stage of development, and couldn't have been by the date of the race.

Even for a more professional/experienced team, how do you "know that's about the best you can do?" When I watch drag races, cars blow up fairly regularly. "I've totally got 10 more miles an hour in this." Boom.  No record.

Again, you are correct. I should have asked these questions beforehand, and I should have contacted the SCTA people in charge of the various departments.  But those were my concerns and my biggest reasons for not buying in.  :dhorse:


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: fredvance on March 22, 2016, 09:49:37 AM
If I had not had previous commitments I would have made the 2600 mile round trip. Mojave is a great track and running just a mile you have tons of shut down room. May be SCTA can try and scheduel another neet with a little more lead time. SCTA should be applauded for trying to get a meet going. We dont know what is going to happen at Bonneville. Mojave would be a great place to shake down your vehicles and get a record.


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: TheBaron on March 22, 2016, 10:04:14 AM
Yes, lets applaud All involved with trying to put on this event,,,,it's a lot of work and rarely noticed by busy racers…

This alternate venue is a great idea and should be actively followed up by one and all.

Maybe a $100 deposit several months out from the event and full payment  30-45-60 days ? out to lock things up would work for all of us racers with vehicles scattered all over the place… Enough lead time is important for some of us...

Robert


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 22, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
I agree with Freedvance and TheBaron.  I particularly like the idea of it being a BNI event.

I know it was all a bit 'last minute', but perhaps this might give us a breather to think about how such an event could be better put together, how to promote it, and to give folks enough time to assess any modifications they would need to perform in order to run on pavement. 

I'd say put it on the schedule, plan on it for next year, and let us know early.  :cheers:


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: mergatroyd on March 22, 2016, 01:31:42 PM
I agree with Freedvance and TheBaron.  I particularly like the idea of it being a BNI event.

I know it was all a bit 'last minute', but perhaps this might give us a breather to think about how such an event could be better put together, how to promote it, and to give folks enough time to assess any modifications they would need to perform in order to run on pavement. 

I'd say put it on the schedule, plan on it for next year, and let us know early.  :cheers:
I support and endorse the sentiments above.

More time to plan might have made my answer different.


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: Glen on March 22, 2016, 01:39:50 PM
I think there are other issues at the mile. The people who have the airport wont allow spectators which would help with the costs, the other problem is I heard from a good source where the two runways cross has a dip the cause some handling issues and one lakester got a bit airborn said they would not run again. Vehicles need suspension to run LSR cars. The cost is tough for people to come a long way and only get a couple of runs. Another issue is the lakes and salt you get wheel spin but on pavement little wheel spin but hard on clutch's. :cheers:


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: fredvance on March 22, 2016, 02:42:34 PM
When we have run at Mojave we have always gotten at three or four runs a day in. Billy Shoemaker ran 269 on his bike, Brenda Sue 239 on my bike, Big red Camero 235+. All of these have suspension so the cars and bikes that are rigid might have a little problem. All in all it is a very good venue.


Title: Re: 2016 SCTA CALIFORNIA MILE
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 22, 2016, 05:21:34 PM
It's been a while since I ran under ECTA rules, but they had a front wheel brake requirement for bikes over 175, as I remember.  So those of us that raced there and at Bville had to figure out what to do.  Not all that bad and it was kinda fun having the two way-different surfaces on which to run.  Many of the rules are modified for track surface - etc.

We only made the trip from home to Maxton to Bville and home again once or twice -- and yes, to those who are a long way from Mojave -- there's no way to reduce the drive.  But if you wanna race you gotta fill the tank and ride.

Would I race at the Mojave Mile again if I had to support the race bike from home?  Heck, no.  It'd be about a 5,000 mile round trip.  If it were closer - Maxton was 2,500 back and forth -- I'd do it for sure.  Pavement racing in LSR is fun. :-D