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Title: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: rjwerner on March 01, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
I've been considering building something in a  Mini-truck class, and since I'm still deeply in the planning stages, I figured a rather ambiguous broad question like this wouldn't be too badly-mannered.    8-)   
Being a Ford guy, I've been thinking about different possible Ranger-based combos, and the one that looks the most appealing would be a "E" class (184 to 260.99 c.i.) in the Blown Modified-Mini Pickup realm.  From everything I can tell, there is NO record set there; someone correct me if I'm wrong.  A 4.0 V6 would fit nicely into that engine class, and there's a couple different options for fitting a M90 Eaton supercharger to this motor.  I've got a rule book sitting next to me right now, and I've have been doing a lot of reading (and have a lot to do!)  Anything wrong with my thinking so far?
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: 55chevr on March 01, 2015, 03:22:22 PM
Where are you located?

Joe
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: rjwerner on March 01, 2015, 03:26:08 PM
West Michigan
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: BHR301 on March 01, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
How about narrowing it down to a city...you might find someone close that is interested in helping or working with you or perhaps an already started project you might join.

Bill
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: rjwerner on March 01, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
Hart, right near the Silver Lake Dunes
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: redhotracing on March 01, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
I know the 3.8L v-6 can handle a bunch of boost; Lawson Bilhardt had one go 190's @ Maxton, 210 @ Loring. May be another Ford engine to consider... I'm partial to turbos, but a well executed supercharger setup has its perks in lack of plumbing, etc. I believe he was running a 4.0L Kenne Bell with air to water intercooler on his. Terry Russell (t_russell on here) helped Lawson crew and drove the car, may be a good source of info.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: Stan Back on March 01, 2015, 08:07:07 PM
Looking at the 2014 Bonneville Records on the SCTA site, it appears that the E/BMMP is open.  And some of the Blown records are less than the Unblown ones.  Maybe not a bad place to start.  I'd go for a long wheelbase model.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: Brickster on March 01, 2015, 09:21:19 PM
I picked c/BMMP because of the somewhat soft record. Check out my build thread.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: lsrjunkie on March 02, 2015, 12:06:14 PM
Class selection is all about what you want to do. If you're out to get a record, the choose your class accordingly. If you just wanna have some fun, build what you got and run the crap out of it.

I chose competition coupe solely because it allows a guy to build, what I think, could be a very cool looking car.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: bearingburner on March 02, 2015, 05:14:54 PM
Build a lakester. Only a couple of class rules.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: dw230 on March 03, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
Easy to work on. A coupe with all the stuff inside is difficult, streamliner is total commitment. Roadster is classic.

DW
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: Skip Pipes on March 04, 2015, 01:53:53 AM
There’s nothing more satisfying than building a roadster, and nothing more maddening than racing it.  Still 0 for 1…

SP
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: Stainless1 on March 04, 2015, 11:56:46 PM
Build a small motored Lakester, lots of soft records and 200 MPH Club opportunities  :cheers:
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: fredvance on March 05, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
Bob, I thought you had all the small motor lakester records! And your records are not soft.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: redhotracing on March 05, 2015, 10:56:12 AM
I like the /BMMP idea... Sure, the Cd won't be great, but: you have a frame for attaching your roll cage, a full bed for holding batteries, water/intercooler/dry sump tanks, relative ease for swapping engines, and pretty
soft records. An extended cab Ranger would do all of that nicely. Run E all the way up through AA using Ford stuff. Lots of aftermarket support for mounting about any engine.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: Stan Back on March 05, 2015, 12:00:05 PM
C motors are the biggest allowed in MMPickups.
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: rjwerner on March 07, 2015, 06:58:36 AM
I like the /BMMP idea... Sure, the Cd won't be great, but: you have a frame for attaching your roll cage, a full bed for holding batteries, water/intercooler/dry sump tanks, relative ease for swapping engines, and pretty
soft records. An extended cab Ranger would do all of that nicely. Run E all the way up through AA using Ford stuff. Lots of aftermarket support for mounting about any engine.

Dunno why the idea to run a Ranger stuck in my head, I think it has less to do with the chassis as the desire to build a less-known Ford motor and see what'll it do!  I'd love to build a 3.0 Duratec, since at 182 c.i. it comes in right at the top of the F engine class.  I know those motors will make power too; Google the Noble M12 super car!  Then bolt a Getrag MT82 6-speed trans using a 3.7 v6 clutch & flywheel from a 2011-ish Mustang....  Which comes to my next question: What category would a turbo or supercharger v6-powered mustang fall into, Blown Gas Coupe, yeah?  That'd be faaar more aerodynamic than a Brick-with-wheels Ranger.  Oh, too many ideas, need to stick with one plan and focus!!!!
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: redhotracing on March 07, 2015, 08:00:25 AM
We run an /BGALT Camaro... /BGC keeps things a little more stock than a modified vehicle. Not a bad thing, necessarily, but the records are much higher for both than a truck. I still want to build a /BMMP, the potential for records coupled with all the space in the bed is great. A Lincoln MK8 would be interesting for a Duratec powered /BG____. Better aero than a Mustang and room for anything in the bay. Where are you located?
Title: Re: Trying to decide what class I want to pursue-thoughts?
Post by: horsewidower on March 21, 2015, 08:30:21 PM
We're building a Datsun pickup to run in the BMMP classes. Just getting started on the build, cab and bed are off and we just cleaned up the frame.

It'll be great to have other folks running in that class.

Bob