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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => 2017 and before: SW & WF => SpeedWeek 2014 => Topic started by: Bob Drury on August 15, 2014, 09:45:48 PM

Title: World Finals 2014
Post by: Bob Drury on August 15, 2014, 09:45:48 PM
  For those of you who plan on racing at the World Finals for the first time (weather God's willing) I thought I would offer up some info taken from my past timing slips.
  The first two are from Speedweek and the second two from The World Finals.
      08/11/02   Early Olds injected on Alky       219.4 mph      7053' density altitude
      08/15/10   BBC injected on Alky               238.2 mph       6840' density altitude

      10/10/09   BBC injected on Alky                n.t.**                 4186' density altitude
      10/04/12    "         "        "    "                  229 @4 mi.          4220' density altitude

  For us N.A. guys and gals the W.F. air is Heaven on Earth, more fuel+more spark= RECORDS!!!*
* don't get greedy right away.... many have and got to go home early
** My thanx go out to Comp Cams and their P.O.S. roller lifters for their "quality products" resulting in not hitting the five under power both trips to the W,F,'s.
  Good luck to all at hopefully both the W.O.S. and the W.F.'s (and of course the BUB and Cook meets).      
                                                                                                Bob
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: revolutionary on August 19, 2014, 01:06:41 PM
Piddling on my little scooter and look forward to my first time at WF! how do the crowds compare to SW?
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 19, 2014, 01:17:42 PM
When is the deadline for pre-registration? I can't seem to find it on the SCTA site.  :-P Wayno
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Sumner on August 19, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
Piddling on my little scooter and look forward to my first time at WF! how do the crowds compare to SW?

Nowhere near the same usually, but I'd expect them to be up some this year considering no SW.  Also it can be quite cold and the days are for sure shorter.  Still this year the event is a couple weeks earlier than when I've gone before.  Some mornings then in the 30's with wind and your mind was telling you that you were looking at snow and not salt  8-).  I like the fact that they are holding the event earlier than some of the years in the past and hope they continue to do so.  It could be perfect temperature wise.  

I'm starting to wonder if I'll make SW in the future with the high room rates and the temps that are getting harder for me to handle, especially in a suit.  WOS and WF might be my events of choice in the future,

Sum
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Stan Back on August 19, 2014, 03:05:58 PM
Deadline -- RECEIVED by (not postmarked) Sept. 15.

Entries and details are in the mail this week to BNI and SCTA members -- don't panic!!!
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: fredvance on August 19, 2014, 03:33:17 PM
Sum, I pretty much decided that I would do the same. Although if you come on Sunday or Monday it is way cheaper. The heat doesn't bother me so much. 95dg and 10%humidity is not bad to somebody from S. Texas. :-D
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 19, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
Stan, I'm pretty much panic free.  :wink: Wayno
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: GH on August 19, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
Sumner, you don't have to wear a suit (and tie), just levis and t shirt. Got to visit with John K, Hooley and Scatty Stude at the swap meet.
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Sumner on August 19, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Sumner, you don't have to wear a suit (and tie), just .....

As I get older I'll probably endorse more of Freud's wearing apparel ....

(http://www.teamhyperliner.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/freud.jpg)

 :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o

.... or lack of it more and more  :-) :-o 8-),

Sum

P.S. Freud just think of how many mph you gave up by keeping the shoes and socks on  :evil:
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Stan Back on August 19, 2014, 06:39:34 PM
Apparently (or maybe apparelently)  he doesn't always ride that way -- check the tan lines.  He says the darker is SFI 3, the lighter SFI 2.  Who knows?
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Freud on August 19, 2014, 06:56:53 PM
It was easy to get someone to hold my clothing then. Now when

I try that someone shows up with a garbage can to slide down over me.

FREUD
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: 38flattie on August 19, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Will tech be Thursday the 25th and Friday the 26th, or just Friday the 26th?
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Stan Back on August 19, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Friday -- starting at 9 a.m. I'm told.
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: 38flattie on August 19, 2014, 09:35:58 PM
Thanks Stan!
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: xxobuick on August 20, 2014, 01:16:28 AM
So do you guys find that engines run better at world finals but that the air density is higher with the cooler air and thus increases drag on the car?  Which do cars generally run better at?  This is mainly considering lower HP cars under 200 mph as we need all we can get :)
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: jacksoni on August 20, 2014, 08:12:24 AM
With EFI, not carb, with supposed compensation for temp and barometer, my car consistently ran faster late in the day when hot (qualifying) than early AM when cooler (record return.) Of course some tuning factor may have been in play as well but suggested to me that the lower aero drag at lower density was the reason.
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: Stainless1 on August 20, 2014, 09:16:21 AM
Jack, with our 1 liter EFI tuned for the same AFR we ran 6 MPH faster at WF than at SpeedWeek... Pork Pie is still smiling  :-D
We like the dense air, need to talk your EFI into using it  :cheers:
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: xxobuick on August 20, 2014, 12:07:41 PM
Last year with our carbs we ran 10 mph slower in the morning than we did at the afternoon. We thought it was a combination of tuning and increased drag. Was just curious what you guys with more experienced had found out over the years.
Title: Re: World Finals 2014
Post by: jacksoni on August 20, 2014, 12:21:11 PM
Jack, with our 1 liter EFI tuned for the same AFR we ran 6 MPH faster at WF than at SpeedWeek... Pork Pie is still smiling  :-D
We like the dense air, need to talk your EFI into using it  :cheers:
No argument here. Is why I run an ice water intercooler N/A :)

The DA can change a lot during the day and a tuning change may be necessary with carbs more than with EFI. The drag guys are always talking about "good air" and Udo Horn (on here as hotschue and crew for me) who used to run funny cars would check conditions- pressure, temp, humidity etc- immediately before a run, plug into a calculator and set jetting accordingly. I am sure most folks here are aware of doing this so not saying anything new. But the DA can go up several thousand feet morning to afternoon.