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Title: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on January 02, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
We are still at it. Cage is almost complete. Seat-mount-head restraint in place. Drive shaft tunnel complete. Pedals hung and steering ready. Firewall is close. Working on interior. Mounting water tank, oil tank and fire bottles. Inside is filling up fast. 8 months to speed week, crunch time.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on January 02, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
We are still at it. Cage is almost complete. Seat-mount-head restraint in place. Drive shaft tunnel complete. Pedals hung and steering ready. Firewall is close. Working on interior. Mounting water tank, oil tank and fire bottles. Inside is filling up fast. 8 months to speed week, crunch time.

Nice looking car.  What class are you going to run?  Keep the pictures coming,

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on January 02, 2014, 03:48:23 PM
Thanks Sum
We are a comp coupe. SB2.2 c class on gas. We helped you and Hooley last year at speed week. Cliff and I have been working on the car since a trip to Hooleys 2 years ago. Getting closer but still a lot to do.  It's all fun
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on January 02, 2014, 03:53:08 PM
Thanks Sum
We are a comp coupe. SB2.2 c class on gas. We helped you and Hooley last year at speed week. Cliff and I have been working on the car since a trip to Hooleys 2 years ago. Getting closer but still a lot to do.  It's all fun

Great and sorry about not putting the name with the face and the car  :oops:.  Hope you guys get to run this year.  We need to get the Studes pitted next to each other.  That would be neat.  I'm also hoping to have the lakester there if at all possible, just to run, wouldn't be competitive,

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Hooley on January 06, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
I have been wondering what you and Cliff have been doing. It looks like you are still busy on old Scaaty.  You are almost there,keep pushing forward. Is Wilmington on the table?  Let me know I may try to be there.


Hooley
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on January 07, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
Hey  Hooley
Yes sir we are still at it. Still a lot to finish but getting closer every week. The closer the car gets the more we want to run on the salt first. Would rather spend the money on speed week then Willington in Sept if all goes well. We have to go to OKC to pick up tires in Feb. Plan to stop by for a visit. We are having some wheel issues so going to MRW with spindles and brakes to try and get what we need. Hope to get all this done in 3-4 day trip.
 Is all going well with the 974 car? Last I heard you had the engine at home and the car was at Sums place. With the rain out in Oct is all a go for speed week?  It's all fun   Don

The picture is not the best just a shot of cage and trans tunnel.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Hooley on January 07, 2014, 05:10:23 PM
I went back to Sum's and we put the engine and tranny back in the car.  I am planning on going back this spring and doing some things to the car that I didn't like.
We are planning on Speed-Week.   Come on by, let me know when so I'll be home. Like I am going some where.

Hooley
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Wade_Owens on January 07, 2014, 05:35:00 PM
Don, looks really good. Please keep posting some pictures. I would love to see where you guys made your top chop lines. I've got more magic marker lines on mine than the law allows....

Hope to get to come visit in a couple of weeks if its ok.

Wade
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on January 08, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
Got a picture from the passenger side of cage and drive shaft tunnel. We started with a Morrison cage bent to our specs then added from there. We took pictures of cage to speed week last year to get Tech to give opinions. Had to add a couple bars as per Nathan. Not expecting any problems in tech after a 1700 mile tow. It's all fun
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on March 24, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
We are still making progress. Got the front wheel/brake/tire issues worked out. Needed more clearance. Using wilwood 11 inch rotor and calipers with 41/2 wide wheels and 4 inches of back spacing didn't leave any room. We modified just about every part. The rear interior is in and the door panel are ready. Working on the dash this week. Have to go to engine builders shop to pickup water tank and spill plates. The land speed tire are a problem. I have been told Goodyear will build the tires late June early July. That makes it a little to close but hey( It's all fun )     See ya on the salt  Don   
                  Scaaty racing  because we are Still crazy after all these years
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on March 24, 2014, 11:40:18 AM
Good to read you're still at it.

Go well. :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on March 24, 2014, 12:07:36 PM
....The land speed tire are a problem. I have been told Goodyear will build the tires late June early July. That makes it a little to close but hey( It's all fun )     See ya on the salt  Don   
                  Scaaty racing  because we are Still crazy after all these years

Good to see you are making progress.  Which tires are you looking for?

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on March 24, 2014, 12:25:59 PM
We have 28x4.5x15's on order. Looking like we can run 25's on the front but need to get it off the jig to take measurements. This will be our first year on the salt with the car. Hoping to run some good numbers. We have to license up and the goal is to run in the mid 200 mph range. A lot to hope for with a rookie team. Two trips to Speed week and 2 or 3 to Wilmington to ask questions look and learn have helped.   
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on March 24, 2014, 12:59:09 PM
We have 28x4.5x15's on order. Looking like we can run 25's on the front but need to get it off the jig to take measurements. This will be our first year on the salt with the car. Hoping to run some good numbers. We have to license up and the goal is to run in the mid 200 mph range. A lot to hope for with a rookie team. Two trips to Speed week and 2 or 3 to Wilmington to ask questions look and learn have helped.   

I'll keep looking but I'd also post in the for sale/wanted here.  I found some that way last fall.  Tires aren't cheap but if you could find extras now they would come in handy down the road.  You like most of us will probably have tire problems and it is nice to have spares if you get up there and do.  There is more on the course than just salt at times  :cry:.  You are probably going to do this anyway but get junk tires for the shop and trailer and put the good ones on when you arrive.

Looking forward to seeing you guys run.  Maybe try and pit next to us (it is hard getting organized in the pits but it would be nice to see more Studes together),

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 04, 2014, 10:32:57 AM
To all you builders out there building cars with a partner. Don't forget to take time to thank them. Cliff is my partner on this build. He is a machinist ,fabricator ,metal  working genius. He comes over a couple days a week to work on the car. Then on Saturday we double team it. Without his help Scaaty would not be as far along has she is.  Thanks partner!!!         It's all fun   Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on April 04, 2014, 10:33:10 PM
Well said Don. :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 08, 2014, 04:22:08 PM
Happy to be able to report on Scaaty race team. While working on the car last Friday night things got a little crazy. We were about ready to take her off the jig. I was going to lower her front and rear so the frame would rest on the jig. I had to front down and was working on the rear. The cross braces were tack welded to jig-braces-frame. While removing the rear brace the car shifted and fell off the jig with me under it. Everything went into slow motion. When it was over I came out unhurt. The car suffered damage to the driver door. The good part is Scaaty is on wheels and rolls now. Didn't think much about it that night. Saturday morning when I was telling Cliff what happened I got a little shook up. If you guys are like me and work alone often please BE CAREFUL. We are still on track, parts ordered to fix door.
                      Scaaty racing  because we are Still Crazy After All These Years       It' all fun  Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on April 08, 2014, 05:03:27 PM
Jack stands forever, hey?  Even when lowering the vehicle to the ground - keep 'em there 'til the last moment when you can still remove them.  A bit of a bother, yes, but then -- so's a body cast.

Safety is cheap.  Invest in it.  Glad to hear that you managed to escape.  Keep on building. . . :-D :-D
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 08, 2014, 09:02:28 PM
Hey Slim    Thanks for the advice. It is hard to use jack stands 4 feet off the ground. We have been lucky during this build. Just a few cuts and grind marks on hands and fingers.
We are making a lot of progress with the car (scaatty) every week we get closer to the goal.

                                                                      It's all fun    Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 14, 2014, 04:52:13 PM
Here is a picture of Scaaty off the jig. Driver door is off for repairs. Today was a money day. Ordered trailer and Cliff got the fire suits coming. Making a lot of progress every week. 118 days till speed week!
           Hey Hooley   It's still Fun     Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Frankie7799 on April 14, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Glad to hear you are ok after your mishap Don, that sounded pretty scary. Car is looking great!
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Peter Jack on April 14, 2014, 06:41:55 PM
Wow! Nice job SCAATY.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: lsrjunkie on April 16, 2014, 09:56:32 AM
Something so cool about an old Stude! Looks great guys! If you squint your eyes just right that garage looks like the starting line and that old cab in the background has to be someones push truck. Or maybe it's just me... Good work guys. That thing is sweet!  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 16, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
Thanks lsrjunkie. Your right about the shop a lot of possibilities there. Other projects have been put on hold or sold to help finance salt fever.  It's all fun  Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: lsrjunkie on April 16, 2014, 05:13:43 PM
Don, I understand that all too well! I thought I had enough to finish my Henry J last year. I guess that's what a guy gets for thinking...  :roll:

I absolutely love that car. I'm pulling for ya man! Can't wait to drool on that thing in person come August.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on April 16, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
The car looks awesome. :cheers:

Working alone can be complicated.
You want do things that need more hands etc.

Good to hear you dodged one. Someone does look after guys that work alone. :-)
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 28, 2014, 04:07:05 PM
Wing and spill plates mounted. Water tank built, mounts installed, tank fitted to mounts. Oil tank mount installed. Flooring ready to install. Finishing trans tunnel and firewall cover. Shipped 1 fire bottle back to recharge. Fire suits on the way. Ran engine on dyno last week. 836 hp at 8400 rpm. Engine builder wants more! Door and front cap at body shop. Pick up the trailer next week. A lot going on here. I stop and think about others in the builds, hope all work safe and meet your goals.                                         See ya on the salt.       It's all fun     Scaaty Racing       Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: lsrjunkie on April 28, 2014, 04:13:04 PM
Wow! That's a couple ponies! Ought to push that old Stude along nicely!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on April 28, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
.... Ran engine on dyno last week. 836 hp at 8400 rpm.       Don

Congrats  :cheers:, that should get you up in the 240 to 260 range I'm guessing.  We still aren't sure of our HP when Hooley ran 253, but were guessing in the mid 800's.

You have any idea yet on what you are shooting for weight wise, front/back?  Have you considered the larger verticals and a wing that are now allowed?

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 29, 2014, 09:08:30 AM
For this year the wing and spill plates will look like what is pictured. We need to get the car finished and do some testing. There is an old air base 2 hours from us with a 3 mile run way. Not wanting to do fast runs just get the feel for the car. 
 Going to pick up scales this week end. We built as much weight into the car as we could during the build. Hoping it comes in around 4000 lbs before we start adding weight. Figuring 5000 to 6000 lbs when we run. Still having fun     Scaaty Racing    Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on April 29, 2014, 11:59:31 AM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13488.0;attach=46143;image)

Looks like you are well on your way to making it  :cheers:.

I couldn't tell from the picture if the spill plates are mockups or final construction, but if they are mockups I'd not taper them but keep then full height (as the rules permit) and take them full height to the axle centerline.  Every square inch you can get there is another square inch that might keep your butt from spinning  :-D.

Looking forward to seeing you guys and the car on the salt,

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on April 29, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
We need to get the car finished and do some testing. There is an old air base 2 hours from us with a 3 mile run way.

Is the old air base Blytheville? Stainless and I were stationed there.

John
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on April 29, 2014, 02:10:15 PM
Hey John
That's right Blytheville, Ark. We have been talking to a lot of people in the area about a Land Speed track there- a lot of politics involved. 
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: krusty on April 29, 2014, 05:47:43 PM

    If you can run in both directions and have access for longer than your "shake down runs", you could do some inexpensive coast-down (aero) testing.

     vic
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 02, 2014, 08:41:41 AM
Here is a shot of the cap back from body work. Still hard at it. Longer hours. Need to mount cap, install lexan, run brake lines. You know - the list is long. Still waiting for a call about tires from OKC. Have a great day   Don      It's all fun
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 09, 2014, 02:13:32 PM
Where does all the time go when your trying to finish a car for speed week???????????????
My shop has been out of power for the last 5 days- :-( Not helping!!! Electric company said it would be back on today. 60 days and 60 nights------no time to rest. Got to finish car and work on truck. Buy hey It's all fun       Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on June 09, 2014, 05:38:16 PM
It looks great Don.

You'll get it done. :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: NathanStewart on June 11, 2014, 12:53:27 AM
Lookin' good guys.  Keep your nose firmly applied to the grind stone.  Hopefully I can get you guys situated with a logger.  Just gotta get the in's and out's figured out. 
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 23, 2014, 09:05:12 AM
After 3 long days ol Scaaty is a roller. Got a lot of loose ends tied up. Engine goes in this week. All lexan cut ready to install. Oil and water tanks mounted and plumed. Brakes plumed with stainless tubing. One fire bottle in the other had to go back to firefox to recharge.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Peter Jack on June 23, 2014, 09:10:16 AM
Be proud man. What a great looking piece!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on June 23, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
That must be one of the nicest photos I've seen on the forum.

Well done Don. Awesome. :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on June 23, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
Congrats, you guys are getting there  :cheers: :cheers:,

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on June 23, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
One fire bottle in the order had to go back to firefox to recharge.

YEP one of mine just leaked down in the shipping box!!

I hope you get yours back faster than I did---I got nervous ---I now have a spare!!
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 23, 2014, 05:42:44 PM
Spare 10lb bottle ordered today. At this point it's only money! Don't need a discharged bottle to side line me after all we have been through. But hey -  It's all fun   I don't hunt-golf-fish or fly a kite. I want to go Land Speed Racing. Ol Scaaty  wants to get salty this August. See ya on the salt.   Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on June 23, 2014, 05:49:52 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: lsrjunkie on June 24, 2014, 09:45:42 AM
Looking real good guys!  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Wade_Owens on June 24, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
Be proud man. What a great looking piece!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete

I agree! Wow is all I can say. I'm jealous...

Wade O
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Hooley on June 28, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
Don, you and Cliff are doing a great job with Scaaty. If you run to problems while out there we can find  help.

Hooley
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on July 08, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
We are entered as a Comp Coupe. After checking the rule book I (THINK) we could run in Gas Altered class. It was clear as mud to me. By looking at the pictures of the car can any of you tell me if I am right. I like the record, you know what I'm saying. Any comments??? We are still having fun but the hours are long and the pay is short.  Scaaty  It's all fun  Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Dynoroom on July 08, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
You might find that the top chop is a problem for Altered.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: GH on July 08, 2014, 08:02:48 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on July 21, 2014, 07:17:30 AM
We had a major set back with Scaaty Racing. My partner on the car dropped out. Due to family and time commitments he stepped way. He will be missed greatly. A fine man talented and hard working. I wish him and his family the best.
I am planning on making speed week with the car. It will not have all that was planned finished. Always next year. Hope to get  the car sorted out and licensed up as far as possible. Hooley has offered to help. Land speed racers are the BEST!
My wife is a saint. She will be my pit crew. I have closed my business to finish as much as I can on the car. I guess you could say I an consumed but hey   It's all fun   Back to work     Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on July 21, 2014, 07:31:40 AM
Not good news but I know you'll handle SW with the wife helping along with Hooley and a hundred other forum members.
I bet you'll end up with the biggest, best pit crew in the world. :cheers:

Have a good one Don.

Mike.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on July 21, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
...I bet you'll end up with the biggest, best pit crew in the world. :cheers:...Mike.

Yep, we will have plenty of help for you  :cheers:,

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on July 27, 2014, 02:28:16 PM
Got some color on Scaaty this morning about 5am. Thought I would get it on before the day heated up. Boy was I wrong. Hot and humid when I walked out the door. But all went well. Not a show quality paint job but I like it. Vinyl guy will come the week to install numbers and lettering. Finish her up this week and head out on the 4th of Aug. I can't wait to get her salty. Still having fun  Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Peter Jack on July 27, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
Don, it is looking sooooooo good!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Sumner on July 27, 2014, 05:17:07 PM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13488.0;attach=47381;image)

Wow, looks great, can't wait to see her in person.  Hey if you are leaving on the 4th come this way with Hooley and join us.  It isn't all that much further.  We are planning a barbeque on Tuesday night for us and Karl and his crew from Texas with their lakester and anyone else coming by.   

Sum
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on July 28, 2014, 01:04:18 AM
Don, I knew you'd get it done. :cheers:

It looks good man.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: lsrjunkie on July 29, 2014, 11:40:17 AM
Absolutely awesome Don! I dig the color. Best of luck, I'll be looking for you on the salt. As I said before, I gotta see this beauty in person!
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: bvillercr on July 29, 2014, 12:09:19 PM
Don you guys built a beautiful car!!  You won't have any problems getting help at Bonneville, people are fantastic and willing to help up there.  Love your car! :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: GH on July 29, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
Looks like you did a great job on the old Stude. Now go have some fun, wish I were going to be there.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on August 11, 2014, 12:58:06 AM
 :-( Scaaty made it to speed week. Everybody knows the story of what happened by now. My face was as long as the rest. Saturday Ed Finn meet me to  tech my car. I did not have a ck off sheet so we just went over the car. All I got was praise. For those of you that have been watching it has been a 3 year build. We have studied-watched - taken pictures- asked questions. We did our home work and it paid off. Yes I was and am disappointed that I did not get to run Scaaty on the salt. There is no fault or blame to be place on anybody or group. It just happened- we can not control the weather. If able I will run at Wilmington next month. As in the past 2 Speed weeks I have attended I made new friends and saw old ones. I got to meet Vern Tardel and he checked out Scaaty- All praise. This made it better also. I felt bad for my engine builder and his grandson that followed me out but they had a blast meeting people and looking at the cars. We will be back next year and for years to come if God is willing and the creek don't rise :-D. Because after all   It's all fun   Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on August 11, 2014, 01:25:27 AM
Not much one could add to that. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on August 31, 2014, 09:09:23 AM
We are back at it. The 3 of us worked on Scaaty yesterday. Making plans for next year. Some changes but mostly finish what we couldn't get ready this year. We talked about running Wilmington next month but decided against it. All ahead full for Speed week 2015.  It's all fun Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: GH on August 31, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Don, It was great visiting with you at the Springfield Swap Meet, too bad you had to run with that OKIE.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on August 31, 2014, 12:09:12 PM
Hey Don, we'll hold our breath along with you until next year.
I think it will be worth it. :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on September 25, 2014, 02:50:37 PM
Since my return from speed week I have been overwhelmed by the support from home town folks. Seems I can't go anywhere without someone asking about to car or the trip. The same goes for my wife. I never realized how many people were keeping up with Scaaty. I have been asked by the local antique car club to bring her to the annual car show this week end. I was surprised by this because they can be a hard nose bunch about restored antiques cars.  So off the jack stands and on the trailer. Since we didn't get to run the next best thing is talking about the car. Who knows maybe I will find a sponsor.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on September 25, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
You already have a major sponsor---TKI---the same as mine  "The Kids Inheritance"   :roll:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on September 25, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
Sparky - I got a good laugh. You are right :-D  She did tell me I could have built her a house for what I have in the car.  When I'm gone ( along time from now) she can down size and live in the car.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 25, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
Sparky and don:

On the tailgate of our pickup we've got a two-liner.  The first line is the one you're using and we've all seen a zillion times:  "We're spending the kids' inheritance...", but the second line is the kicker:  "...but they'll have cool stories to tell about us."

How many kids can say that Grandpa and Gramma raced at the Bonneville Salt Flats and went over (insert your speed here)?  Nancy and I say our grandkids are talking about us as the old ones that have both set records over 200 on motorcycles.  That makes the other kids at school sit up and listen. :-D :-D  Try such a line on your kids/grandkids.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on September 26, 2014, 08:47:53 AM
Slim  How right you are. We are a select bunch of individuals. I will use you line in the near future.
I have my Speed week calendar in place, counting the days to Speed week 2015.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on September 26, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
Well salt fever may finally be catching up with my oldest---I sure hope so
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on September 26, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
Whatever you do Don, or how long you have to wait. It will be worth it.

Still my favourite build. :cheers: :wink:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on September 26, 2014, 12:38:14 PM
Thanks Tauruck Having a lot of fun. Maybe we can meet on the salt one day.
Excited about having the car in the local show. So much support in a small community is really cool.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on November 17, 2014, 09:41:14 AM
Scaaty has been winterized. She is up on jack stands. Plans are to finish the belly pan. Have a couple of small items to address as per tech inspection. Thinking about adding a cool can to fuel system.  Don't have to work day and night as I did before speed week. Still having fun and counting the days till speed week 2015.  It's all fun  Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on February 09, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Scaaty has come out of hibernation. The belly pan from firewall back is finished. New bigger strakes are cut. The data system is being installed. I went ahead and got the racepak dash to go along with the data system. Took her to the engine builders shop last week. He is checking everything over. Sent the entry to ECTA for the May meet in Ohio. We need shakedown runs and some time to figure out the data system. Hope all are making progress and working safe.  It's all fun   Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on February 09, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
Hey Don, good to hear from you again.

It's been a while. Good news on the updates. :cheers:

This will be your year.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on May 10, 2015, 08:09:59 AM
Update on Scaaty Racing. We ran in Ohio. Got in 3 runs. Licensed up. Did just what I told Keith I would do. A new car and a rookie driver just wanted and needed seat time. The car handled great. It went straight pulled hard during acceleration. I took off easy not spinning the tires and ran on the numbers. A 127mph pass on the first run then a 150.3 on the second. Had to repair a leaking water hose and fitting late Saturday. Got repairs made Sunday morning and got back in line. 3rd run she went 183.65 and felt good going through the gears ( only to 3rd). Went through the traps and pulled the chute. It did not work. Thanks to the Wilwood brakes I got it slowed enough to made the last turn out (a little fast I was told). On the return road is where I saw the problem. Oil and water coming out. We got the engine apart yesterday. Looks like a rod bolt broke. A lot of damage but could have been worse. You all know how much these engines cost. Have to make calls this week checks on parts and prices. Scaaty may have to run speed week with the 283 out of my 39 Ford pickup. It's all fun   
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: gkabbt on May 10, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
Don, REALLY good meeting/talking with you and seeing the Scaaty Stude in person.....NICE ride.  :cheers:
Hate to hear of the engine issues. Plenty of time before Speedweek. Just need them D A M N $$$$. It's always something.....LOL!!!!!

In case you haven't seen them, here are some pics I got of your Stude:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vfskz52p8Ds/VUP002FvfII/AAAAAAAADfY/cY5EKT8LiFc/w800-h600-no/IMG_0096.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VK94EFOCv-g/VUVtYy87x0I/AAAAAAAADiQ/MHPdeqlFbNI/w800-h600-no/IMG_0116.JP)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L2xrxuBN9Ts/VUVtZUi8VhI/AAAAAAAAD1k/oHuep-ockXo/w800-h600-no/IMG_0117.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lW9DLVKRaYo/VUVtugUSdgI/AAAAAAAADpw/VcchKx_iqPM/w800-h600-no/IMG_0184.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Zp4Ake4mjx0/VUVtvA4tb3I/AAAAAAAADqs/cBv3tQ0Wopc/w800-h600-no/IMG_0185.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-81uKUdPzpfw/VUaEAPxLFmI/AAAAAAAAEEs/ztXE2yU5TUw/w800-h600-no/IMG_0396.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9VvBiQbLic0/VUaEANUMT3I/AAAAAAAAEE0/Eu7wvK4bE-Q/w800-h600-no/IMG_0397.JPG)

Hope to see you in Wilmington again!

Gregg Adams
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on May 10, 2015, 12:22:58 PM
That is one bitchin Studee   :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Captthundarr on May 10, 2015, 10:58:49 PM
Nice stude, sorry to hear about the engine issues, NO CHUTE! whats up with that. one would figure a chat with Keith. Slowing at wilmington from over 175 with just brakes is not for the faint of heart. Good for you on your progress. :cheers:

Frank.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on May 11, 2015, 08:27:42 AM
Captthundarr
Right you are about the slowing. The guys at the end of the track had a talk with me. It was either the grass or take the turn out. Just recalled Saturday night at the dirt track. 
 After  I got the time slip Keith came down track.  That was when I thought the butt chewing was coming. He was great. Talked about my chute and tires. He told me I can't run there till I get a different chute and tires. Said the car is wicked fast. He also told me I did what I told me what I was going to do. We will get Scaaty back together to make Speed Week. Then over the winter make changes to run Ohio next spring. I am having the time of my life. It's all fun                                 
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 06, 2015, 10:09:55 AM
The sb2 that was in Scaaty is in need of a lot of work equals $$$$$. Looks like a rod bolt broke but it took out all rods pistons and the crank. Don't have the money for repairs  before speed week. Plans are for a back up engine. Same class but less HP. Going to get licensed up to A if all is right with the world--make that salt and car. Making changes and finishing items that have to be ready for tech. Never enough hours in a day. Hope all work safe---the push is on. See you on the salt. It's all fun
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: GH on June 14, 2015, 10:19:58 PM
Very nice looking Stude. Get in touch with Stroud for the proper chute. Good luck and have fun.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: DND on June 15, 2015, 04:15:29 AM
Your Stude is very slippery looking for a great aero package, what kind of rods do you have as now days they all have good bolts I thought
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on June 23, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
Hey Don, I don't know how I missed the last few posts
because I always check. :x

The car looks great. :cheers:
Sounds like it runs just as good.

What rods were you running?.

I hope you get it together for SW.
Good luck man.

Mike.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 29, 2015, 07:11:01 PM
Update on Scaaty. We had carrillo rods and bolts. Can't say for sure what happened. At this point it doesn't matter. I am putting together another engine to run this year. It will have less HP and won't turn the rpm the sb2 could but hey I am having fun. To bad it cost so much money for our kind of fun. Plans are to try to license up to an A if she holds together. Scaaty felt good at speed. Went straight pulled hard and stopped straight. All a plus for a car built by two old boys from Tennessee. If we can get her salty and she stays together to an A license we will get the sb2 back in place for next year. You all know how this works-never enough time. What are we 40 days out and I'm still putting an engine together. FUN FUN FUN see you on the salt. It is all about going down course. I will finish Scaaty someday------maybe. She would be a cool Pro-Mod car after I get her salted down.   Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: manta22 on June 29, 2015, 08:03:37 PM
Race cars are never really "finished", Don.  :cheers:

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: wheelrdealer on June 29, 2015, 08:46:59 PM
Don:

That's the spirit. It will always be a trash, if not the car then the trailer or the tow vehicle but something always decides it needs some love 40 days before speedweek. I love the Studebaker. 

Good thrashing,

BR
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: DND on June 29, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
Hi Don

In 68' I built a 350 for a short track stock car and also had Carrillo rods, after each season I would rebuild & mag all the parts and re dyno it for the new year

About 3 months into the 5 th season a rod broke and did it in, so the money guy says what the hell happened

Well you raced it for 4 years, hauling around a 3000 lb car on a 3/8 mile paved track with lots of off & on the gas cycles so I think they got their moneys worth

Even Fred's best rods are not going to last forever

Don
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: fordboy628 on June 29, 2015, 09:14:21 PM
Hi Don

In 68' I built a 350 for a short track stock car and also had Carrillo rods, after each season I would rebuild & mag all the parts and re dyno it for the new year

About 3 months into the 5 th season a rod broke and did it in, so the money guy says what the hell happened

Well you raced it for 4 years, hauling around a 3000 lb car on a 3/8 mile paved track with lots of off & on the gas cycles so I think they got their moneys worth

Even Fred's best rods are not going to last forever

Don

Highly stressed parts have a finite cycle life.    The trick is to retire the parts before they "retire" everything else in the engine . . . . . . .
 :cheers:
Fordboy
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: DND on June 29, 2015, 11:07:15 PM
45 years ago 900 bucks for a new set of rods was not easy to come by, so once you spent your coin you raced what you had for as long as it would last

All new program these days
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 29, 2015, 11:16:37 PM
That is the plan. Run what ya brung. Have fun go as fast as you can with what ya got.   :cheers:  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Buickguy3 on June 30, 2015, 11:09:59 AM
   "Run what ya brung, break what ya brought". 
  Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on June 30, 2015, 11:12:53 AM
as Andy likes to say "We came prepared to break something, records or parts."
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Bob Drury on June 30, 2015, 12:01:25 PM
  Don, nice looking car.
  Having run a 53' Studebaker on the Salt for sixteen years, I recommend you call Bob Stroud and order two complete chutes with 30' tag lines.
  You will find that using smaller chutes and pulling one at a time is a lot easier at the hit and the car will not "get squirmy".  The second chute will not be needed except in a emergency or you start running about 220 or so.
  You need to mount your tag lines higher (about camshaft center line high) or it will jerk the rear wheels up and you will be in for a thrill (trust me on this one).
  I would post a picture of my mount but am too stupid to figure out how.  Suffice to say that moving it up from bumper height to camshaft high has made it a dream compared to before.
  NEVER use your brakes until you are slowed down enough to turn off the course.  You will burn them up and ruin the rotors if you hit them at 200+ mph.
  DO NOT buy a Drag Race Parachute as they do not have a long enough tag line.
  If you buy them from Bob Stroud, make sure to mention that you want the extra large chute packs because once you have drug them across the Salt they seem to "grow" when you try to repack them.  He makes bags slightly deeper for you if you ask.
  Bob is a mechanical Engineer so speak to Him directly before you order.
  You will need to run the car at about 4200 to 5000 lbs (roughly 50/50 front to rear ballast) up to 200 mph, and at least 5,000 lbs above that.
  I run my car at 5.200 lbs currently (238 mph) and I may add a couple hundred more.  Make sure you bring extra weight and have mounts pre installed that are easy to add weight or remove weight as necessary at the track. 
  Every car drives and handles differently so be prepared to add or subtract weight at any time.
  ALL BALLAST SHOULD BE BETWEEN THE FRONT AND REAR AXLES AND MOUNTED AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
                                                                                                                        Good Luck
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                                                                                                                                        Old Stud Racing
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Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Bob Drury on June 30, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
  Two more things I just remembered: Be sure to read the Chute Mounting rules which restrict the size of the Mounting Surface.
                                                        Make Sure you have tarps for both your Pit (required) and one big enough to stretch your chutes out to clean them and repack
                                                        them on.  J.D. posted (I believe) soaking them in a tub of water and hanging them out to dry overnight.  If you do, you better tie
                                                        them to your trailer or they may be in Salt Lake City the next morning.
                                                        One more thing (I know, that's three things), remember on the Salt you steer with the throttle and not the steering wheel.
                                                                                                               One Run, out..................................
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on June 30, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Hey Bob thanks for the advise.  I have done my home work on this build. Bob built the chute that I am using. They didn't like it at the Ohio meet because it was designed for Bonneville. It is at cam center line. 
When I ran in Ohio it was at 4700 lbs. It has 51 % to the front.
There are several places to add ballast under the car between the firewall and the rear just forward of the 4 link mounts.  There are still items on the car that could be finished but time is running out.
I hope the get the engine together by the weekend. My 4th of July will be lighting it off and doing so tuning. I have 3 billboard signs about 20x60 for ground cover. We have 2 canopies as well.
                                                    Hope to see you there  Don     It's all fun
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on August 19, 2016, 10:37:31 PM
Bonneville Speed Week 2016 was a dream come true. The car when through tech with minor hicups. 30 minutes and we were signed off and ready to get in line. I made 6 runs total earning my B license. I then put my friend Jeff Gentry in the car for 2 runs and he got his C. My top speed was 181.8 with a 352 inch SBC. That was built with all used parts given to me by friends. An oem 400 block with a cast 283 crank. We spun it hard and it took it. We brought Scaaty home salty and running. The salt gods were with us. We meet new friends and spent time with old one. I LOVE it. It's all FUN
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: SPARKY on August 20, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Don   thanks for you and your wife saying hello  great that you all seemed to be enjoying it so much!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Buickguy3 on August 21, 2016, 10:35:52 PM
     After watching this build for so long it was nice to pit next to you and finally meet the crew in person.
    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Tman on August 21, 2016, 11:33:43 PM
So cool to hear you made it!
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 22, 2016, 02:50:52 PM
So cool that it all came together Don. Was fun watching the updates on Facebook
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on August 30, 2016, 10:50:20 PM
Scaaty Racing had an unbelievable speedweek. We made a lot of new friends. Touched base with old ones. It was great meeting all that I have made contact with over the net.
The car went through tech with minor hiccups. 30 minutes and we were signed off and in line. I made 6 runs earning my B license. Top speed was 181.73 on the long course. I then put Jeff Gentry in the car for bailout and 2 runs. He got his C license.
We loaded up a running salty car on Wednesday afternoon. Happy, tired, emotional and ready to go faster next year.
I could not have done this with the help and support of many. My crew were and are the best. My wife June Martin. Gregg Gregory, Rich and George (his wife) Darnell and Jeff Gentry. We laughed, cried picked at each other and learned a lot.
We are making plans for next year and looking forward to pushing Scaaty over 200. It's all fun
 
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: tauruck on August 31, 2016, 10:15:57 PM
Way to go Don. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Perfect outing!!!!.

Glad you guys had a ball.
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Kiwi Paul on September 03, 2016, 01:21:53 AM
 Did your pal Jeff get more Ice Cream? I still think we could have messed with him a little more on his Bailout, but he was a little nervous, it seemed like, and pretty hot as well!! Good to meet you all, and next time we are going to have to bring a big lead weight or something to tie you back down to Earth!  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Scaaty Racing Studebaker
Post by: Don Martin on September 03, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
Thanks Kiwi Paul. Jeff did get some ice cream and 2 runs ending with his C license. We all had a blast. Looking forward to next year and safe faster runs. You can't hold me down I'm walking on clouds of salt. It's all fun