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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: Brickster on September 25, 2013, 12:44:36 AM
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After many years of attending speedweek, making plans, gathering parts and finishing some other projects I have finally started on the road to build a racecar out of the pickup truck I drove to high school 17 years ago. The truck is a 1995 Dodge Dakota regular cab short bed.
The current plan is to run a 6.0L gm engine with a turbo. I made a deal on the engine. I agreed to do the fiberglass repair,body and paint on a 62 Corvette in trade for the 6.0L. It took 3 years of nights and weekends as time allowed to complete the vette project.
The engine builder is my uncle Dan, he is a very experienced engine builder but somewhat new to the LS series of engines, turbos and land speed racing. I am greatful that with his help and his blessing the construction of the truck will be able to take place at our shop here in Las Vegas. Check it out at www.dansdrivelne.com
I also have a friend Tim that has signed on to help out with the cage and chassis construction. He has some LSR experience as he was part of the team that built the Budweiser rocket car. As well as raced a rocket powered funny car and survived a crash at the top end of the track. He is an extremely talented fabricator and I'm also grateful and honored that he signed on to this project.
Another person who has pledged some time toward this project is Gil Navarez who will be heading up the engine tuning. I watched last year as Gil worked his magic on the Shelby 5.4L engine for Carroll Shelby's 1000 Mustang. That engine screamed on our dyno like no other and made almost 1000 HP on pump gas through stock exhaust manifolds.
It was purely by chance that I met Rod Nestmann (HVAC EXPRESS D/BMMP) at bonneville a few years ago but he recently moved from IL to NV and has already been a great help with advise, donating parts and help with disassembly.
I can't wait to post updates as the project makes progress here and on Facebook.
Brick Casper
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This should be fun to follow. Good luck with it. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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What Peter said. Best wishes on your project. Mikey.
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Sounds like this is going to be a fun project, and you have an excellent team already listed.
My first new vehicle after graduating from college was a '92 Dakota, extended cab 2wd. That truck still shows up in my dreams on occasion, and I wish I still had it to play around with.
By the time your project is complete, the original truck will only be a tiny fraction of the overall investment. Make sure that it's the best choice for your racing dream, in terms of condition and configuration.
If it was my project, my main concern would be whether the regular cab short bed is the best configuration for a truck that is probably going to be up around 200 mph to be competitive against the record.
Longer wheelbase is better for stability, but maybe not for aero. That's going to have to be a trade-off.
Regardless, take a bunch of photos, and post here frequently. The advice you will get from this community will be invaluable.
Steve.
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Sounds like a great project. I got my ECTA License in a C/BMMP... It can be a challenge to package everything you need in a reg cab but it can be done.
Happy fabricating,
BR
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Is there an easy way to post pics from a mobile device (iPad) ?
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Is there an easy way to post pics from a mobile device (iPad) ?
The way I do it from iPhone:
Open a Photobucket account
Download Photobucket App
In the Photobucket App choose upload media
You can upload a pic you have on there or take a new one
When it is uploaded go to My Albums
Select the pic you want to upload
There will be a little i (information symbol) on the pic (bottom right on iPhone app)
Touch the IMG shortcut and it will say something like IMG link copied
Paste that in your thread
Probably other ways to do it.
jon
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I do the same thing that Jon described with my iPhone.
The photobucket app is pretty handy.
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Great to see you posting Brick! Look forward to watching the truck come together.
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Cool another build diary to follow. Good luck Brick!
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Photo test
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If this works then this is my truck, pictured as it will be the end of its days of street use.
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This truck started out as a 4 cyl, 5 speed base model. Years ago I installed a 5.9L Magnum V8 with an overdrive auto. Now those pieces will find a new home to make room for the new engine.
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Pictures work!
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That's a good looking truck, and it looks like your project is getting up and going quickly. :cheers:
Looks like you have a nice shop to work in, also.
Just as an FYI, your hood should be fine, as hood scoops are allowed in this class.
You will probably have to install an OEM grille to stay in compliance with the rules. It's a good idea to open a dialogue with the rules chairperson for the truck class, and save all the documentation you may get from them.
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I already have thrown the grille in the trash as it had some damage from hitting a retread and I was aware of the rule. I have not liked the hood with the scoops since I put it on so the the stock one is going back on.
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Photo test
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If this works then this is my truck, pictured as it will be the end of its days of street use.
It's all looking promising. Good luck on the build. BTW mine was also my daily driver. :-D
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I plan to keep taking small bites as time permits. Tonight I started striping out the interior. Is it required to keep any portion of the stock interior?
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Hey Brick, nice to meet you at Bville and good to see you making progress on the truck!
I have two suggestions... if I may?
1) put a rule book in the truck, in your car, by your favorite chair, and on the back of the toilet. Read the general construction, safety, and Gas Coupe rules about 400 times... then read them again! Racers thrive in the grey area on the performance side, but anything related to safety is very black and white at Bonneville.
2) don't be afraid to call Ed Whiteley or Jim Dunn if you aren't sure on something, or even just to tell them what you are planning. They are great guys and will go out of their way to help you be clear on your build. The last thing you want to do is show up at Bonneville and find out you have a discrepency that might keep you from running... plus... it certainly doesn't make you popular to put the officials in a position to have to decide whether to turn you away, or let you run with something they aren't completely comfortable with. Also, know for sure before you modify... don't give someone a chance to challenge you on a rules infraction when you have that 200+ time slip in your hand!
I don't know much... but that's my $.02
Kix
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Kix,
I would say from Kix/Henderson's trucks performance, putting three guys in the 200 MPH Club in 6 days you know a lot. You had a well executed platform and a lot can be said for that for a truck that was making it's first salt appearance. Sage advice.
BR
Hey Brick, nice to meet you at Bville and good to see you making progress on the truck!
I have two suggestions... if I may?
1) put a rule book in the truck, in your car, by your favorite chair, and on the back of the toilet. Read the general construction, safety, and Gas Coupe rules about 400 times... then read them again! Racers thrive in the grey area on the performance side, but anything related to safety is very black and white at Bonneville.
2) don't be afraid to call Ed Whiteley or Jim Dunn if you aren't sure on something, or even just to tell them what you are planning. They are great guys and will go out of their way to help you be clear on your build. The last thing you want to do is show up at Bonneville and find out you have a discrepency that might keep you from running... plus... it certainly doesn't make you popular to put the officials in a position to have to decide whether to turn you away, or let you run with something they aren't completely comfortable with. Also, know for sure before you modify... don't give someone a chance to challenge you on a rules infraction when you have that 200+ time slip in your hand!
I don't know much... but that's my $.02
Kix
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Yup, Can't go wrong on that advice. Good stuff Kix.
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Made a little more progress on Sunday. Got the exhaust, gas tank and all the old air suspension stuff out except just the bags and some schrader valves so it can still roll for now.
Then started taking some measurements for the front and rear suspension. Started making a parts list and held some parts in place just to get an idea if what I have planned is going to work.
The pics show the stocker LQ9 engine, the frame clip and the NASCAR truck arms wired in place.
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Brick, are you shooting for SpeedWeek 2014? Would be cool to have another C/BMMP around to trade stories :cheers:
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That would be nice. I'm hoping to just make consistent progress and if it happens that way ill take it. I'm puting together an order from Speedway right now for my front suspension.
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Got most of the front suspension components and the wheels ordered. I will be building the control arms myself so we'll see how that goes. The front wheels say they won't ship for a month. I can assume they don't sell many 4.5" rims. Because of the wait for the front end stuff the plan for tomorrow is to start planning out the diff and rear suspension
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Got most of the front suspension components and the wheels ordered. I will be building the control arms myself so we'll see how that goes. The front wheels say they won't ship for a month. I can assume they don't sell many 4.5" rims. Because of the wait for the front end stuff the plan for tomorrow is to start planning out the diff and rear suspension
May I make a suggestion on the wheels, check the wheelsmith http://www.thewheelsmith.net/ (http://www.thewheelsmith.net/). He will custom build your wheels for about the same money. You want your wheels welded 360 degrees and he has the solid centers to do that. Call him with the size, width, lug patter and offset. You will have them in a week. Tell him you are using NASCAR 1" lug nuts they have a different taper than street wheels.
If you are building 15" wheels he has a moon disc jig and can weld your dzus tabs for you.
I have bought two sets from him and been very pleased.
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Last weekend I made some progress but when I went to upload the pics I had nothing but trouble. I'll try this again.
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Got the bed off and stripped the old 9", 4 bar and air spring suspension
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My daughters came to help but found the green masking tape and decided to decorate themselves and their bikes
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I calculated where the height of the axle will be and it's centerline is the sharpie mark on the tape. A more dramatic notch is going required for that plus the suspension travel.
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Then I just through the truck arms and floater diff up in place to get an idea what else is going to have to change. It looks like the truck arms will have to be set a little narrower and the track width will have to be narrowed.
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During the week I got my frame bench down to the shop. I bought this about 6 years ago after Shelby American liquidated all Series 1 inventory and tooling. I actually bought it from the scrapper for $0.10 a pound more than scrap weight.
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I also started receiving some of the suspension parts I ordered
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Then lastly I got a band saw set up we got a few weeks ago in preparation for building the cross members and fixtures to mount the frame to the bench tomorrow.
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I hope to make some good progress on Sunday with a new update for you guys.
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You've got some nice stuff to work with there. That bench is very nice. Looks like you're making good progress. I'm subscribed. :cheers:
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Worked all day and only made progress on the fixture table. Got one side done and crossmembers cut.
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I think I mentioned in the initial post that a traded my uncle the fiberglass repair, body work and paint job on a Corvette for the engine in the race truck. Well while I was working away he came in today to gap rings on another motor he's doing and decided to bring in the hot rod so I snapped a pic.
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Brick, if you have any truck specific questions Tim and I are here to help. We have learned some little things pushing that much air!
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That Corvette looks good. I quoted on a repair on one that got hit by a cement mixer. Builders had the mixer at the top of the driveway and the only thing keeping it there was a brick in front of one of the tires until some idiot needed a brick. The car owner was an old guy that collected classics and had a six car garage with the front facing the driveway. All the cars had been backed into the garage evenly spaced like collectors do. The mixer chose the Vette. What a mess. That fifty year old resin even shattered along the split line around the trunk. In hindsight I'm glad I never got the job. My quote was the highest and something tells me the other experts never looked around the back. :-D
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I made no progress this weekend. Went to TX for a wedding so I will have to get busy in the evenings during the week to make up for it.
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Good news, my wheels showed up. They are Cragar model 69. They need to be welded still but so far look to be what I wanted.
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15 x 5 and 15 x 4.5
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Good looking wheels Brick! :cheers: Wish I had mine... :roll:
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Great idea for budget wheels Brick!
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Good looking wheels Brick! :cheers: Wish I had mine... :roll:
Yeah, me too :-D. Just playing. :-D
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:-D Now that's funny Capt!! :-D
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I'm back and I've made some progress
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Got the frame bench done and got the truck up and in place
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I set up the ride height at 2" with some square tube spacers. The top of the crossmembers represent the ground.
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I've got some borrowed mock up tires mounted and set next to the frame to see how much I'll have to raise the axle in the frame.
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I read this week about buickracer69 building an S-10 so I helped me relight the fire on my own project. I'm shooting for Speedweek 2015 weather permitting.
The progress since the last post is we have got most of the machine work done to the lq9 block. Bored the cam bores for roller bearings, placed the order for the pistons/rings. Found a good dry sump tank on Craigslist. Got the stock rear suspension and frame cut away enough to properly locate the new diff housing and truck arm suspension.
Later this week hope to get some parts back from the CNC plasma guy to assemble and weld the frame kick ups and suspension crossmember.
Posting pics thru photobucket is a PITA so if your like to follow along and you're on Facebook look me up, my page is open. Brick Casper
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I read that you said you bored your LS for roller cam bearing, that sounds pretty serious.
If you don't mind me asking what combo are you putting together, and what is your ultimate power goals?
I don't want to step on your toes since we are both working toward the same record, just figured I would see what others were doing.
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Interrested in knowing about and where you got the front frame clip and suspension?
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I read that you said you bored your LS for roller cam bearing, that sounds pretty serious.
If you don't mind me asking what combo are you putting together, and what is your ultimate power goals?
I don't want to step on your toes since we are both working toward the same record, just figured I would see what others were doing.
Lq9, dry sump, 317 heads, good rotating assembly, fast intake, Holley dominator EFI, 91mm turbo, air/water. Only looking for a rock solid 850 hp and never lift the hood while on the salt.
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Interrested in knowing about and where you got the front frame clip and suspension?
The front clip is from Howe racing. It was a piece that was on special and to tell you the truth i bought it and the rack so long ago I don't remember much about it. The front suspension parts are all speedway motors stuff I'll build to the track width I want.
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If these links work then this is the progress from the weekend
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I am using a wet sump, and a stock crank, but other than that my engine combo sounds very similar to yours. Good luck with your build, I am sure we will be bouncing ideas off each other as our builds progress.
I read that you said you bored your LS for roller cam bearing, that sounds pretty serious.
If you don't mind me asking what combo are you putting together, and what is your ultimate power goals?
I don't want to step on your toes since we are both working toward the same record, just figured I would see what others were doing.
Lq9, dry sump, 317 heads, good rotating assembly, fast intake, Holley dominator EFI, 91mm turbo, air/water. Only looking for a rock solid 850 hp and never lift the hood while on the salt.
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Last Sunday I drew up some parts and by Wednesday my CNC plasma cutter (Travis @ Alter Ego here in LV) had a bunch of parts for me. So far I've done everything in 3/16".
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Then as I mentioned earlier we are doing roller cam bearings. We made an installer to draw the bearings in place. Here is a couple pics of that.
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Lastly we started welding together the new parts. Here is the rear crossmember that houses the adjustable coil spring buckets
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The front clip is from Howe racing. It was a piece that was on special and to tell you the truth i bought it and the rack so long ago I don't remember much about it. The front suspension parts are all speedway motors stuff I'll build to the track width I want.
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Do you plan to cut your front frame section off and use the whole howe clip or just transfer the suspension. I ask only because i thought you need to keep the stock frame in MP classes.
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The front clip is from Howe racing. It was a piece that was on special and to tell you the truth i bought it and the rack so long ago I don't remember much about it. The front suspension parts are all speedway motors stuff I'll build to the track width I want.
Do you plan to cut your front frame section off and use the whole howe clip or just transfer the suspension. I ask only because i thought you need to keep the stock frame in MP classes.
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I am keeping a good portion of the stock frame like many of the trucks I looked at on the salt. At one time I was going to do a full size truck so I looked at Norris Anderson's Stude a lot. I know on that truck he is using a strut type front end that is like many drag racing applications. Don't know how much of his frame required modification but I'm guessing it's similar.
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It just states that you need to keep the stock frame. It doesn't mention suspension. I think it’s acceptable to modify the frame and use a different suspension just not sure you can swap out the whole front clip. It would be a good question to ask before chopping the front frame off. A email to Ed Whiteley would get an answer. I’ll email him and get back to you I just might be in the same position your in.
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It just states that you need to keep the stock frame. It doesn't mention suspension. I think it’s acceptable to modify the frame and use a different suspension just not sure you can swap out the whole front clip. It would be a good question to ask before chopping the front frame off. A email to Ed Whiteley would get an answer. I’ll email him and get back to you I just might be in the same position your in.
Yes, please let me know.
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Here goes the latest update.
Since getting the first set of plasma cut parts I designed I can say that this has sped up how quickly I can put something together with my limited free time. There is some time required to sand off the dross to get clean good welds but its a small price to pay.
First thing was to get all the obstruction cleaned off the existing frame and the new profiles located on the outside and tacked in place
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After the outside was in place I mocked up where the spring crossmember was located and cut it in so it would assemble like a puzzle
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After the outer profiles I had to remove some more of the old airbag stuff from the inside to get the inner profiles installed. At the same time I used some tubing remnants turned in the lathe as spacers and to keep everything square.
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I was then finally able to cut out the old portion of the frame over the axle
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And lastly 10 new slugs showed up in the mail. If these can't get it done I don't know what will.
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More updates to come as I hope to have the rear suspension done by the end of the month.
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Looking good and I like the way you're working.
Hope the slugs do the job for you, they look the part. :cheers: :cheers:
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Brickster;
For cleaning up the dross on your plasma cut parts, I'd recommend using an angle grinder with 3M Cubitron II abrasive discs. These are the best abrasive discs that I've ever used for cutting metal parts.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Just so you know I have been communicating with the truck committee on how much of the stock frame and suspension can be modified. One of the committee members is currently on vacation but they are asking me questions. I sent them pictures that I found on the web that shows what I plan to do on my truck which is to use mustang 2 front suspension but retain most of the stock front frame. I also plan to run a ladder bar suspension in the back and notch the frame similar to what you have done. Still waiting on a reply from them. I would suggest if you have not contacted them yet to send them some picture of your rear suspension modifications. As soon as I hear from them I will post what I learned here and in my build thread.
dieselsalttoy@aol.com, Jim Dunn
edwhiteley@hotmail.com Ed Whiteley
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Still making headway on the suspension and gathering parts.
A couple of my helpers are Air Force retirees and they said they would do some safety wiring for me. I'm sure it will be faster and better than if I do it as I have no actual knowledge of how to do it. I just fake my way thru it. Here is the first set of rotor to hat bolts.
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Today I had to remove the cab from the chassis. There was no way I could access the location of the crossmember with the cab in place and the frame bench made access from the bottom impossible
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After getting the body out of the way it was lots of measuring, trimming and more measuring to get the truck arm and crossmember in place. By tomorrow I should have it all tacked in place. Before I tack the crossmember I took the opportunity to cleanup the pass through holes I made earlier.
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Nice progress Brick.
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Nice progress Brick.
And very pretty work!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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This is what I posted in another thread. I believe that you will need to keep most of your stock front frame however you should be able to running any suspension. I suggest that you email them directly with pictures "if haven't already". Again I’m not suggesting that you are doing anything wrong in your build just trying to help you out with the answers I’m getting from the truck committee. If I can do half the quality of what you’re doing I will be happy with my build.
“So far they (truck committee) have said I can run the Mustang 2 suspension in the front. But was not clear on how much of the stock frame can be modified. To me the rule clearly states that you must have the stock frame. Since they said I can run a non-stock suspension/steering then I assuming that anything goes as long as the stock frame is intact with only minor notching and clearance for the new suspension. I did ask them clarify the rear suspension/frame as I’m afraid that notching the frame and sectioning the bed to clear the notch will be considered channeling which is illegal. But is the bed considered the Body? Again I have sent them pictures I have found off the web to show them what I plan to do. I commend them for putting the time in during the holidays to help me out.”
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This is what I posted in another thread. I believe that you will need to keep most of your stock front frame however you should be able to running any suspension. I suggest that you email them directly with pictures "if haven't already". Again I’m not suggesting that you are doing anything wrong in your build just trying to help you out with the answers I’m getting from the truck committee. If I can do half the quality of what you’re doing I will be happy with my build.
“So far they (truck committee) have said I can run the Mustang 2 suspension in the front. But was not clear on how much of the stock frame can be modified. To me the rule clearly states that you must have the stock frame. Since they said I can run a non-stock suspension/steering then I assuming that anything goes as long as the stock frame is intact with only minor notching and clearance for the new suspension. I did ask them clarify the rear suspension/frame as I’m afraid that notching the frame and sectioning the bed to clear the notch will be considered channeling which is illegal. But is the bed considered the Body? Again I have sent them pictures I have found off the web to show them what I plan to do. I commend them for putting the time in during the holidays to help me out.”
I think you are mistaken on what channeling is. That would be to lower the body in relationship to the frame. The frame/notch extending up into the bed would not lower the body panels at all in relationship to the lowest point of the frame. I have a picture of the Kix/Henderson S10 during construction and his current record holder has a complete mini-trucker type step notch in the rear so I can't see how that would be any different than what I am doing. With no % of the stock frame specified how many ways could this rule be interpreted?
With that being said I will send off my own email for my records to make sure I have a legal racer.
Brick
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I actually agree with you. I just want to make sure the guys that would deem it legal or illegal are thinking the same thing as us.
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1 leg. Are you doing a mustang II crossmember or stub?
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If we do the mustang 2 it will be just the cross member keeping the stock frame. After some rough measurements this might require us to make some wider control arms then are available, so a lot more work. We are also considering doing 82-92 Camaro style front strut but keep the stock lower control arm mounting points. I'm on a pretty tight budget and limited a little on space to fabricate. I just got the front completely disassembled so I will be getting some mock up wheels and get some better measurements before making up my mind. In either case I plan to keep the stock front frame rails with only minor notching for control arms and mustang 2 steering rack. Just to note this is an original 4wd frame.
For the rear I plan to use ladder bars with watts link locater. Would like to use air bags front a rear but that has not been decided yet. I will also use heavy sway bars front and rear.
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Got word back about my chassis modifications and looks like I'll be going forward as planned.
Brick
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Cool looking forward to seeing your progress.
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I'll let the pics to most of the talking. I took a pause on the frame work as I waited for the truck committee approval. Since I got that its time to ramp to the progress.
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And we all thought the Busch brothers were the best thing to come out of Vegas!!!!
The pics do way more than talking.
Just awesome. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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And we all thought the Busch brothers were the best thing to come out of Vegas!!!!
The pics do way more than talking.
Just awesome. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
That's funny because once upon a time I knew Kurt a little. We raced RC together.
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More pics and progress
Engine work has begun too
Tin work in the bed is done for now
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That is a really neat job.
We're getting used to the excellence now.
This going to be a great truck. :cheers:
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Brickster,
With your oil tank mounted in the bed be sure to make the drysump pump inlet line big, at least -16, bigger if you can . Even though the inlet port on the pump may be smaller run as big a line from the tank to the pump as is possible. Your pump will like it. Probably want to consider a tank heater also.
Love the fab work and can't wait to see your truck on the ground.
Rex
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Thanks Rex, we also got some tips from Dailey engineering. They made the oil pan and pump we are running. I'm going to hard line most of the distance down the frame with only small amounts of flexible line.
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Once upon a time I thought I would like to build engines. After stubbing my toe a few times on a Chrysler big block I decided to leave it to those who have a passion for it. Enter my uncle Dan Sromalla. He helped me save the Mopar I had screwed up a few times. Dan had one of the oldest operating SuperFlow dynos in the country set up in the garage at his house. That's a guy who loves high performance engines. When he upgraded his dyno to a SuperFlow 901 they bought back his original to display it at the SuperFlow headquarters. The following are some pictures of him doing the initial mock up of the bottom end components and measuring the main line.
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This weekend I started on the front suspension, here goes.
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I'm mocking up the front suspension on top of the frame just to save space. When done it will go in the correct location.
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I am really fond of the CNC plasma cutter. Having stuff that is symetrical is so nice. This last Sunday I worked a lot measuring and drawing prints.
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Brick
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Good progress.
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This diary just gets better and better. :cheers:
Thanks for the great pics.
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We need to have a caption contest for this pic. :-D
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We need to have a caption contest for this pic. :-D
My wife said if that stupid machine I've got was the reason we didn't get a new car this year then the least it can do is make me a pie dish.
I made her a pie dish.
:roll:
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I WANT one and I don't care what it is. :cheers:
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A few more pics from the progress on the front suspension, seems like I'm always behind but the progress keeps rolling on.
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Brick
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Both lowers are done
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Pro build!!!!! :cheers:
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Dig it! Nice work Brick. :cheers:
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Looks like the same Howe front frame I am using on the Breaking Wind car. What is your plan for the front shock/springs?
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Looks like the same Howe front frame I am using on the Breaking Wind car. What is your plan for the front shock/springs?
I've got an order in for some coil-overs from FOA. They should be ready soon and I'll post pics when I have them. They actually said they would sponsor me on the shocks.
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Nice stuff from FOA. A sponsorship is always good!
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Upper control arm completion
Made these plates to work with the Speedway ball joint sleeves, in fact all the tube sleeves (1.25x.120") heim joints, clevises and ball joints are from speedway. Still waiting for shocks to build mounts for and I think I'm going to build my own steering arms to slow down the steering.
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Very nice! I will be tackling front suspension soon on the firebird. Trying to get to zero scrub with random parts I have. We shall see.
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Nice work-- but with the top a-arms that short, you're going to have lots of camber gain-- is that what you wanted?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Nice work-- but with the top a-arms that short, you're going to have lots of camber gain-- is that what you wanted?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
I don't think I want much camber gain. I set up the car at a 2" ride height although I plan to set the air dam closer than that. With the limited suspension travel how much (%) camber gain is too much?
I plan to measure the change. What should I look for?
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If the travel is going to be short and the front end stiff will it matter?.
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Just measured it and it will be <2% through the total range of travel. What do you think?
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Just measured it and it will be <2% through the total range of travel. What do you think?
How much is that in degrees?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Apparently I don't now the difference between % and the degrees symbol that I don't know how to type in on my iPad. Yea that was degrees, I'm just not that smart.
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I can't figure out how to type symbols on my Android phone either.
If you have a very high wheel rate so that aerodynamic downforce (hopefully it'd down, not up) does not deflect your front suspension much in bump travel you should be OK. If you do get much bump travel, it will be a different story. Check your bump steer, too. Again, if there won't be much suspension deflection, it won't matter much, but getting bump steer as small as possible means that you'll not have any problem from that source if things are not as they were assumed to be.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Thats looking pretty slick Brickster
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I can't figure out how to type symbols on my Android phone either.
If you have a very high wheel rate so that aerodynamic downforce (hopefully it'd down, not up) does not deflect your front suspension much in bump travel you should be OK. If you do get much bump travel, it will be a different story. Check your bump steer, too. Again, if there won't be much suspension deflection, it won't matter much, but getting bump steer as small as possible means that you'll not have any problem from that source if things are not as they were assumed to be.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
What is wheel rate?
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It's like spring rate but its the lbs/inch rate measured at the wheel-- where it contacts the road. All the complicated geometry is bypassed by measuring the rate this way and wheel rate is what actually counts, anyway.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Looked it up and it looks like I'll need to have my coil-overs mounted to calculate it.
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You can measure it directly-- put 200 lbs on the nose over the axle and measure how far the chassis drops down. No math required.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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http://eibach.com/america/en/motorsport/products/suspension-worksheet
This is where I was reading about it.
I can't put weight on the nose yet because the frame stub is not attached to the frame yet
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As for aero on that thing, it will pick up the nose at speed. It won't push down. We have photos of our Sonoma at the mile with the air dam 4" in the air when we leave the line with 1".
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You were supposed to run the wheelie bars like I told you!!!!! :-D :evil:
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As for aero on that thing, it will pick up the nose at speed. It won't push down. We have photos of our Sonoma at the mile with the air dam 4" in the air when we leave the line with 1".
What if I run a limit strap like an off road truck?
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As for aero on that thing, it will pick up the nose at speed. It won't push down. We have photos of our Sonoma at the mile with the air dam 4" in the air when we leave the line with 1".
What if I run a limit strap like an off road truck?
We were planning on that but moved on to another car. I thought it would help but also thought it might make the steering worse up near and over 200mph. I imagine it lifting the front end and once the limiters come in to play, it's lifting the wheels too?? Just a theory though.
We were leaving the line at Bonneville with maybe a half inch of clearance between salt and splitter. It wandered pretty bad near top end on the salt. Never an issue on pavement.
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What about an air dam with a splitter like the NASCAR car of tomorrow had? I've been thinking about that as well.
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A splitter can't extend beyond the front edge of the bumper by more than 1/4". See 4.CC.1
Bill
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A splitter can't extend beyond the front edge of the bumper by more than 1/4". See 4.CC.1
Bill
I'm aware of that
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Today was the day. I received some actual sponsored parts. F-O-A shocks put together some coil-overs and a set of what they call emulsion shocks. They custom valved them for me based on suggestions from Rod (HVAC EXPRESS) and included coils for mock-up. I am fortunate that they are based here in Las Vegas and can adjust, rebuild and swap springs without having to send them out. They specialize in off-road but I guess the salt is technically off-road. The support is very much appreciated. Check them out at http://f-o-a.com/
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Brick
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NICE :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Way to go Brick.
What happens in Vegas....................... :-D
Wish you the best bro. :cheers:
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but you should be able to slope it back
" to the back to the leading edge of the front fender well"
Then I would go forward to the leading edge of the bumper--- follow the bumper profile
YMMV
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Don't know why my previous pic disappeared. Here it is again
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What about an air dam with a splitter like the NASCAR car of tomorrow had? I've been thinking about that as well.
We ran a 1" or 3/4" splitter. Just some angle I formed to match the air dam profile.
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Those look real nice. Beefy!
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I made some progress over the weekend. I'm going to wait to show pics after modifications are more in place but the front end is being located in the frame.
Brick
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Great thread here, lot's of things to learn. The allowable frame notching and bed alterations are an eye opener, we were interpreting the rule book differently.
We'll be working on the small end of the engine range with our build. I look forward to seeing you at Bonneville in 2015
Bob
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We got the turbo today and it is WAY bigger than I ever imagined. I don't think the pictures show how big it is but believe me it is a monster. I hope I can move enough air to spin this bad boy.
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What size/brand/AR is that? The first time I saw our 88mm Bullseye, I was blown away. Huge!
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It's a 94 mm Garrett. I've got two main guys collaborating on my engine build, Gil Neverez is the tuner and he picked and secured the turbo. He's asked me to keep some of the specs to myself, because he asked that's what I will do.
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Got the front suspension located in the chassis. I've got to get the engine in place just so I can see if putting the monster turbo anywhere in the engine compartment.
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I'm running out of room in a truck. How do the streamliner guys do it?
Brick
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Streamliners are a true practice in packaging! As for running out of room, we had that issue in the Camaro, too, as I'm sure many people have. Relocating all the moveable stuff (water/IC/fuel/oil tanks) to the bed will surely help in more ways than one. Even the turbo itself, if you figure out an oiling solution...
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Progress is slow but I've been moving ahead with some tin work.
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Wow, not only a nice build, but great looking sheet metal fabbing. Nice project, keep the pics coming for us who love hanging out! :-D
Matt Guzzetta
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Cams here, hope to see some progress on the short block by the end of the weekend
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The engine is still moving ahead as time allows. Rods getting final cleaning before being assembled with the pistons and rings.
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Don't have any pics of the rings being fit but they are gap-less and I was told it is a much longer process to fit them than a standard set of rings
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After a lot of measuring a second set of main bearings were purchased that were under sized a bit to get the clearance Dan was after. Here is the crank just after it was set in hopefully for the last time.
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Rods are getting torqued until the rod bolts stretch a specified amount.
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So far the rotating assembly has been completed
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Very nice work!
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Got the front suspension located in the chassis. I've got to get the engine in place just so I can see if putting the monster turbo anywhere in the engine compartment.
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I'm running out of room in a truck. How do the streamliner guys do it?
Brick
They don't, it does them!!!!. :-D :-D :-D
Truck's looking good Brick. :cheers:
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Finishing up the short block
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Adding all the Dailey Engineering dry sump goodies
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Since the short block is about done its time to start on the heads. Hope they won't be too expensive.
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How good is that ATI damper?????
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The dampener was packaged with the dry sump stuff. Is there something about it I should know?
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Valves arrived
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Stock rockers get upgraded shafts and bearings
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Wanted to get rid of the script
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Finished most of the floor and firewall
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Set hot fill rod on my finger
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Modified the stock column
Pedal and MC with a balance bar
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Needed to make the hub surface of the rotor match the wheel mounting surface
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Front brakes, bearings, steering arms, studs all done
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Starting on the pipes soon.
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Fantastic progress on a great build! I've always had a soft spot in my heart for that generation of Dakota, as well. I bought a brand new, black, 2WD extended cab in 1992... wish I would have never let it go.
Steve.
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Extended cabs solve lots of Driver and Cage problems..
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If it gets to crowded under the hood for the engine and the "hair dryer" you might consider putting the turbo in the passengers side, you would of course need to cover it with a good steel cover but it would be out of the way. Rob Freyvogel (Project 66018 streamliner) ran a mid 80s Corvette with a turboed big block and they had the blower in the passenger area. You get pretty long on the inlet pipes so throttle response is slow but it's Bonneville you probably don't want quick throttle response.
Great build and great workmanship!!!!
Rex
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I think I've got things under the hood sorted out. The turbo will be in the passenger side front corner under the hood. If I was smart I'd have got an extended cab but I thought it would be cool to turn the truck I had in high school into a race car.
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Awesome progress, and great work!
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Charlie Burns has turbo Y-Block Ford in his GMC Sonoma with everything under the hood so what's the problem with a Dodge doing the same...Just sayin'......
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Charlie Burns has turbo Y-Block Ford in his GMC Sonoma with everything under the hood so what's the problem with a Dodge doing the same...Just sayin'......
No problems, I just like to complain.
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Man I love seeing a dakota raced so much... but hate seeing GM power under the hood so much.... so so so torn!
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in this case it may be no better that the Mopar product but it is for sure more easy to find and a lot less money
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in this case it may be no better that the Mopar product but it is for sure more easy to find and a lot less money
Oh totally... I mean... I helped a friend find heads for his '69 galaxie wagon this week.... he made it sound hard, it was like... wtf? Look at all this aftermarket crap!... He could buy aluminum heads for that 302, complete and ready to run, for $20 more than what I paid for an intake manifold for my polysphere. I do REALLY, REALLY envy the ford and chevy aftermarket.
and I still don't like it... it's just wrong... ITS WRONG I TELL YOU </cartman>
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Exhaust update
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You do nice work. The headers are very well done. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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dude those headers are money.
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We have the engine mostly done. Need to do some plumbing still to get it on the dyno. Was energized to see good reports from BSF even though I won't make it by Aug I'll still keep plugging away.
I was thinking of bringing the truck out to get some early feedback from the tech inspectors. Does anyone think that's a good idea?
Brick
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Yes. Come and look for me in Inspection. Be happy to give you my meagre two cents worth..... :-D
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You obviously enjoy fabricating, it shows in the quality of your work. That being said there are a couple of things in the front end that stand out. You have an extreme amount of scrub radius that is undesirable for the salt & the tie rod length is at least twice that of the A arm & that will induce bump steer. About the last thing you want is a vehicle that won't go where you point it.
Sid.
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You obviously enjoy fabricating, it shows in the quality of your work. That being said there are a couple of things in the front end that stand out. You have an extreme amount of scrub radius that is undesirable for the salt & the tie rod length is at least twice that of the A arm & that will induce bump steer. About the last thing you want is a vehicle that won't go where you point it.
Sid.
Hey, Sid:
I have voiced my opinions on scrub radius before but do agree that there appears to be far too much positive scrub here. The only way short a-arms work without huge changes in camber and toe is to add roll and pitch or greatly reduce vertical travel. This is an LSR car so I would hope it doesn't see roll and very little, if any, pitch. But longer tie rods with short a-arms is not bad. They should help reduce toe changes over shorter tie rods and maybe with a bit of shimming, can eliminate toe change at full bump altogether. I would define full bump for this car at less than 2".
John
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I know what scrub radius is but how do you measure it? As the steering travels the tire doesn't appear to travel in an "extreme" arc. With the limited travel this car has it didn't have much in the way of bump steer. If it had lots of travel it could be more of an issue.
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Brickster, this may help.
John
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I read on this forum that near zero scrub radius is ideal but doing some web searching i find a number of .5" to 2.5" being an acceptable amount of scrub. What's your opinions?
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Not to be a smart azz, but how many of those sites pertain to vehicles that only run straight line?
Ron
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I read on this forum that near zero scrub radius is ideal but doing some web searching i find a number of .5" to 2.5" being an acceptable amount of scrub. What's your opinions?
I think 2.5" either positive or negative, is too much for our cars. I am shooting for +/- .500" but will accept up to 1" if less cannot be easily achieved.
John
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Amongst other things, scrub radius is desirable to help pull a vehicle into a turn & is used in production & racing to different degrees for different applications. Thats just not desirable when trying to go fast on the salt surface. Going fast on the salt is not as easy as one might think, over the years I've helped a lot of people get their stuff to go straight.
The amount of times I've heard "how hard can it be to go in a straight line!"
Check out some in car vids at the salt & watch the horizon & you'll be surprised how many cars are not actually going straight. I pointed this out to another liner guy who said he didn't even notice it in the car & not long after that he crashed it.
Just here to help, not to criticize.
Sid.
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Sid is so so right my old car hunted or wandered bad we did several things that helped some the biggest-- getting rid of over 2.5" of scrub radius
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My spindles are Wilwood units that are based around Mustang II geometry. I got them because they are forged and made for affordable brake options. Am I mistaken or is the only thing that can change scrub are the spindle and wheel offset? It's been said a few times that my upper arms are short, I'm aware of that but that won't change scrub right? The other site was not LSR related.
Brick
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I read on this forum that near zero scrub radius is ideal but doing some web searching i find a number of .5" to 2.5" being an acceptable amount of scrub. What's your opinions?
I think 2.5" either positive or negative, is too much for our cars. I am shooting for +/- .500" but will accept up to 1" if less cannot be easily achieved.
John
When I get back to the shop I'm going to measure it out and I'll post the results. I'm guessing I'm close to 1" judging with the calibrated eye.
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If you have lots of scrub radius on the front end, you will know it when you stand on the brakes hard. Any little ripple in the road will pull the wheel in that direction. It makes for scary braking on asphalt!
Regards, Neil Nashville, TN (vacation)
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The pictures might be deceptive but it appears that the whole tire is outside the intersection point, that was the reason I decided to say something. I'm also an advocate of correct Ackerman for the salt too, as that will also produce the same kind of turn in situation if not at least close to correct. A lot of production line vehicles are horribly wrong there, Ford "Enguneeers" had it totally a$$ backwards for years with a "toe in" on turns situation.
Sid.
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Good talking to you last night! Can't wait to see this truck run. You should get a red hat no problem!
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Good talking to you last night! Can't wait to see this truck run. You should get a red hat no problem!
Really appreciate your time and info, it was good talking to you as well.
I don't think it's going to be easy to get that hat but that's the goal.
As far as the scrub radius goes it has more than I thought, at least 2". So as of now I'm going to run it as is with my eyes wide open knowing the possibility of having to rework the front suspension.
Brick
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Not an engineer (not even close).
But years ago I found out a (very) little about scrub radius.
I was used to rolling our roadster out of the garage and letting it roll forward to a piece of 2x4 where I wanted it to stop. I'd just put on new narrower front tires on a set of neat, narrow Centerline wheels I'd been given. When the car rolled slowly forward and hit the small block in front of the left front wheel, the steering darted to the left. I thought -- what if that hit a small obstruction at 200 MPH?
I then inquired why. Scrub radius. "Try to have your kingpin angle intersect the center of the tire patch on the ground." I did the best I could and so far, all's well.
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Keep in mind that changing wheel or tire size will change the amount of scrub radius. The standard 28-29 model A axle is engineered for a 21" wheel, my tires are only 22" in diameter. Using the same backspace as stock with 15" wheels and small tires, the scrub radius would be way out of whack compared to stock. Set up with tires you intend to run.
YMMV
Ron
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There is a reason most roadster guys try to never turn the steering wheel---it will "weigh jack" the drive wheels if you have to turn the steering wheel
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A friend asked me what I had left to do so while sitting by the truck I started to list off what was left and it seems the more I do the more I realize I have left to do. One project reveals another. I think it's time for me to do an actual list to help me keep focused. I need to just keep nibbling away at it but I'll give credit to anyone who successfully builds and races anything. It's really a huge undertaking.
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What a great way to get me to put links to these "What you need to know and do for Bville" lists:
http://www.landracing.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=78
Also see:
http://www.landracing.com/faq/checklist.htm
Not specifically on-point about your needed list -- but still, lotsa good stuff all of us need to know. See you on the salt.
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Feb 19th update 2017
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For whatever reason the links for the pics don't show the pics unless you click on them. Once your there feel free to look at the other pics.
Brick
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Great progress. Nice fab work.
BR
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When I got this turbo it had a v-band on it. The one I got to join to it was different. So I had to mill the original
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Is that a blow off valve you have installed on the manifold? sure looks nice :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Is that a blow off valve you have installed on the manifold? sure looks nice :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
The BOV is just sitting on a rag in the last pic. I do have a large pressure gauge in the manifold facing forward. Thought it would look cool from the dyno control room to watch the manifold pressure during the test.
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Way cool ---or maybe a GoPro watching it on a run :-D
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This has been a great build to read through. Hope you are still making progress. I too am working on my first build.
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Yup, still working away on it. Today I made some more progress on the intercooler. My hopes are to have the engine on the dyno in January
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I finally got the engine, exhaust, cooling system, intercooler and fuel tank done. Removed it all from the truck and it’s now in the dyno room. Tuning and testing to happen in the next few weeks.
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I finally got the engine, exhaust, cooling system, intercooler and fuel tank done. Removed it all from the truck and it’s now in the dyno room. Tuning and testing to happen in the next few weeks.
Nice project. Glad to see there are some more Vegas folks headed towards the "dirt and the salt". Good luck and take care!
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Today we started setting up the engine on the dyno
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Hope your dyno session(s) go well. :-D
Please say hi to Dan for me. He is a good guy. 8-)
Regards,
HB2 :-)
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looks very nice Brickster, WE use to live in Vegas but moved north, We are building an S-10.
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looks very nice Brickster, WE use to live in Vegas but moved north, We are building an S-10.
Nice! What engine?
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Multiple days setting up plumbing and wiring. Should be running next week
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Hope your dyno session(s) go well. :-D
Please say hi to Dan for me. He is a good guy. 8-)
Regards,
HB2 :-)
I told Danny you said hi and he thought maybe you were on the phone or up front (at the shop). i think he would have liked to spoke with you.
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Ahhh, sounds healthy!! :-D
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updates sir, updates! need to know how much money I need to spend this winter.
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I don’t know how much you’ll have to spend but for me the answer was “everything”.
I had not updated here as much as on my Facebook but when we dyno’d with the turbo in place it turned out that the intercooler I built was terrible. It wasn’t a little bad, it made the engine make less power than it did NA. Needless to say that intercooler has been chopped up and turned into the beginnings of version 2.0
The dyno session went like this. We had a good tune NA, made 525hp. Finally got everything plumbed into the turbo and intercooler, remote water tank, electric pumps. It looked like the plumbing department at Home Depot mixed with a science experiment in the dyno room. We fired it up with the coupler to the throttle body redirected just in case there was any debris in any of the plumbing. I noticed then the wheel in the compressor was spinning slower than I thought it should. Hooked everything together and tried a short pull. The engine wouldnt rev, the BOV was open the whole time, it just fell on its face. We disabled the gates and the BOV so it would have no choice but to boost, still no boost. It had vacuum in the manifold at wide open throttle. After some head scratching and discussing options we then put a pressure gauge in the inlet of the intercooler and just removed the tube from the outlet. Did another pull and saw 5 psi in the inlet side of the intercooler with the outlet side wide open. I think we found our problem!
Next test we removed the plumbing between the turbo and the inlet of the intercooler and immediately it rev’d like normal. With the turbo discharge not plumbed into the engine it moved so much air in the dyno cell it threw stuff off the walls that had been hanging there for years. The final test was just to bypass the intercooler and see what happed. With minimal effort I was able to twist around some tubes and get everything connected. One more pull and it seemed like it came up on boost very fast, saw 6 lbs and stopped the test. We were out of time as we had scheduled a paying customer for the following day.
Since the dyno testing I have not finished the redo of the intercooler, had some family commitments and needed to recover financially from what seemed like endless spending building up to that point. Just like when everyone asks when do I hope to be done, August, I just don’t know what year. Truth be told I’d like to shake it down at El Mirage before going to Bonneville but I’ll run where I can when I can.
Steve and Rich from Canada built a really nice little Isuzu and bumped the C/BMMP record to 181 and I’m sure with this years experience under their belts they will have even more speed in 2019. I hope to be in impound with them next year.
Brick
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Keep at it guys ---as they like to say if it was easy we would all have hats!!
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Haha, I'm sure we will be running first if we both end up in Impound. Good luck over the winter and if we can help at all feel free to ask.
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That's really odd about the intercooler. Sorry to hear that. Surely a CBMMP done right like this has well over 200mph in it. Our CMMP record is 219
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Like everyone els I’m after the red hat at 225
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You got this!
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I think the C/BMMP got bumped to around 192 this weekend by Ken Caven.
Andy
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How soft can you go . . .
(According to the 2017 Rule Book)
The Full Size C Unblown Pickup is 224.
The Blown Full Size C Pickup is 248.
The Unblown C Mid-Mini Pickup is 219.
. . . and the Blown C Mid-Mini Pickup was 177?
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I think the C/BMMP got bumped to around 192 this weekend by Ken Caven.
Andy
Didn’t know he ran the event this weekend. Sure does look like he bumped it a bit more.
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The sonoma picked up the front end probably 4" at speed. We were going to add weight and come back with a turbo motor but moved on to other projects and sold the truck. The new owner should be running soon with a GN V6 turbo setup I guess EBMMP
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I got a memory that popped up on my Facebook today that is was 5 years ago that I started construction of my truck
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Ran the engine on Saturday 12-8-18
Did all low boost stuff, 4.5 psi and spun it to 6500
Made 720hp and 625 ftlb
Pic and videos on my Facebook
Brick Casper
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Ended up with a conservative 8.5 psi to get to our power goal for at least the first few outings.
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no dashboard shots :-P
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soo much fancy. cant wait to see it in person!
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Finding it hard to post pics. Trying to see if this works
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I got to Speedweek this year. In spite of the rain shortened conditions and event I got 3 runs in. My first 3 ever in any vehicle at Bonneville and the first for my truck. Got licensed D,C and B with 146, 168 and 179. I hit 185 for a while on the last run. I did all my testing and licensing with the 3.00 rear end gears. Next time out we can go a bit faster
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